Fuck the Police!!!!!!!!!!!

[Braff Zacklin 13635]

1 hour ago, definitely not derka said:

fuck the police:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/OdtHxnhunM

 

Some context:

https://www.thecity.nyc/2024/06/03/video-nypd-cannabis-raid-adams-hochul/

 

[Derka 6290]

5 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Some context:

https://www.thecity.nyc/2024/06/03/video-nypd-cannabis-raid-adams-hochul/

 

The shopkeeper’s lawyer, Steve Zissou,

lol

[Braff Zacklin 13635]

Beware the jaguar shark, Steve.

[Pancho 44878]

 

[idigTexas 2289]

27 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

I don't see the issue here.  Body cams are on.  They are being polite.  They just want to see his ID to prove that he is supposed to be there in case the business owner reports a break in the next day.  This thread is full of cops who are bad people doing bad things.  This is not an example of that.  

What am I missing?  

Edited June 19 by idigTexas

[DigglerontheHoof 21206]

7 minutes ago, idigTexas said:

I don't see the issue here.  Body cams are on.  They are being polite.  They just want to see his ID to prove that he is supposed to be there in case the business owner reports a break in the next day.  This thread is full of cops who are bad people doing bad things.  This is not an example of that.  

What am I missing?  

there's a part 2, so not sure how it ends. 

[idigTexas 2289]

Just now, DigglerontheHoof said:

there's a part 2, so not sure how it ends. 

Ah.  I didn't go looking for it, but if the encounter escalated, then I don't understand why transmission bro didn't just show them his ID if he really was allowed to be there.  They were initially investigating a possible break-in.  Should they not do that?  If I were a shop owner, and cops noticed my garage was open after hours, I would hope they would investigate.    

[RPM 26327]

Should have never opened the door.

[Pancho 44878]

10 minutes ago, idigTexas said:

Ah.  I didn't go looking for it, but if the encounter escalated, then I don't understand why transmission bro didn't just show them his ID if he really was allowed to be there.  They were initially investigating a possible break-in.  Should they not do that?  If I were a shop owner, and cops noticed my garage was open after hours, I would hope they would investigate.    

No they were no calls of a break in

 

[idigTexas 2289]

17 minutes ago, Pancho said:

No they were no calls of a break in

 

That's a weak take by the guy doing the videos.  No dogs were shot.  No doors were busted down with guns drawn.  No one was physically assaulted.  Voices weren't even raised.  I don't think a call has to be made for police to investigate suspicious circumstances that they encounter while doing their jobs.  I guess they technically could have handled it differently, but if they show up at my shop when I'm working after hours, I'm happy to identify myself and thanking them for checking.  

There are plenty of bad cops who deserve shaming and in many cases legal prosecution.  I do not think the case is made for these two to be vilified.  

[Jkwellborn 6713]

Wood
Mississippi state trooper is fired after sending sex tape of her and another woman to colleagues

A Mississippi state trooper was fired after sending explicit images and videos to other cops and now she and the woman she had sex with on video are suing each other.
MHP Trooper Ivana Williams was let go from the agency after distributing the video. The unnamed woman in the video claims Williams said she would delete the tape, but instead shared it.
A Mississippi Department of Public investigation into her behavior found that Williams sent explicit images of herself to her superiors and visited porn websites on her state-issued phone.
The other woman in the tape has sued Williams for $11million, and now the former trooper has filed her own suit against the woman for $20million. Williams said the woman’s lawsuit has damaged her reputation and business relationship.
Williams - who is active on social media with several sites - has said that she is “innocent” of wrongdoing and claims her firing was “retaliatory.”

Gonna need the video and onlyfans that most likely exist for research.

[Brian Fantana 6689]

2 hours ago, idigTexas said:

That's a weak take by the guy doing the videos.  No dogs were shot.  No doors were busted down with guns drawn.  No one was physically assaulted.  Voices weren't even raised.  I don't think a call has to be made for police to investigate suspicious circumstances that they encounter while doing their jobs.  I guess they technically could have handled it differently, but if they show up at my shop when I'm working after hours, I'm happy to identify myself and thanking them for checking.  

There are plenty of bad cops who deserve shaming and in many cases legal prosecution.  I do not think the case is made for these two to be vilified.  

Cop defender has logged in I guess.

Except they don't have legal authority to do any of that. Just being cops and being suspicious is not enough to do any of what they did. You're flat out, 100% wrong about the bolded part, and this is a textbook 4th amendment violation. It doesn't fucking matter that they didn't beat his ass, his rights were still violated and the cops didn't even bother trying to take basic investigative steps before making all their bullshit and unlawful demands.

Not to mention they had absolutely no right to search the property without the owner's consent...the list goes on.

The dude would have been well within his rights to tell them to go fuck themselves and shut the door in their faces, and then sue them if they escalated the situation.

[idigTexas 2289]

11 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Cop defender has logged in I guess.

Except they don't have legal authority to do any of that. Just being cops and being suspicious is not enough to do any of what they did. You're flat out, 100% wrong about the bolded part, and this is a textbook 4th amendment violation. It doesn't fucking matter that they didn't beat his ass, his rights were still violated and the cops didn't even bother trying to take basic investigative steps before making all their bullshit and unlawful demands.

Not to mention they had absolutely no right to search the property without the owner's consent...the list goes on.

The dude would have been well within his rights to tell them to go fuck themselves and shut the door in their faces, and then sue them if they escalated the situation.

Nope.  Not a cop defender at all, but if this is an example of bad "respect my authoritay" cop behavior, than just shut it all down and everyone can protect his/her/their/its' self.  I know a lot of you would be okay with that. 

We are fucked.   

[Braff Zacklin 13635]

Not sure what to make of the video.

Law enforcement can enter private property without a warrant if there are "exigent circumstances," e.g., they see a crime in progress. Was there enough to technically meet that standard here? Maybe, maybe not, but that probably became moot once the citizen admitted he didn't own the place and refused to give his name or provide ID. Any reviewing authority is going to consider that suspicious and endorse the officer's decision to enter.

Both parties seemed unnecessarily entrenched. As someone else noted, the citizen shouldn't have answered the door. And as another posted shared, most any business owner would appreciate the cop's actions.

[MissingInAction 25125]

If a cop asks if you own the place you say, YES!

[Jkwellborn 6713]

If a cop asks if you own the place you say, YES!

Alright. This chick is toast.

[Brian Fantana 6689]

1 hour ago, idigTexas said:

Nope.  Not a cop defender at all, but if this is an example of bad "respect my authoritay" cop behavior, than just shut it all down and everyone can protect his/her/their/its' self.  I know a lot of you would be okay with that. 

We are fucked.   

You don't think cut and dry violations of constitutional rights are bad cop behavior?

[idigTexas 2289]

7 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

You don't think cut and dry violations of constitutional rights are bad cop behavior?

I don't see the situation as cut and dry as you do.  I understand that the person was under no obligation to help police determine whether a crime was being committed, but why the reluctance to be helpful in that situation unless he was hiding something?  He seemed very determined to play the "I know my rights" card, and to be a dick about it.  Is that you in the video?  

[huge 3795]

12 minutes ago, idigTexas said:

I don't see the situation as cut and dry as you do.  I understand that the person was under no obligation to help police determine whether a crime was being committed, but why the reluctance to be helpful in that situation unless he was hiding something?  He seemed very determined to play the "I know my rights" card, and to be a dick about it.  Is that you in the video?  

You're obviously in the wrong place pal...

Check the thread title next time!

[idigTexas 2289]

Just now, huge said:

You're obviously in the wrong place pal...

Check the thread title next time!

Yep.  I'll mosey on back to the lighter side surly.  Pardon my attempts to inject reason and common sense.  Fry the bastards.  

[Brian Fantana 6689]

11 minutes ago, idigTexas said:

I don't see the situation as cut and dry as you do.  I understand that the person was under no obligation to help police determine whether a crime was being committed, but why the reluctance to be helpful in that situation unless he was hiding something?  He seemed very determined to play the "I know my rights" card, and to be a dick about it.  Is that you in the video?  

My man, you need to think about what you're saying. If there's any entity in America you need to be extremely vigilant about protecting ALL of your rights with, it's the police.

Not only that, but he was FAR more helpful than he should have been. It wasn't his building, even answering the door was a big mistake. Letting them in and allowing them to search was far beyond the pale of how helpful he ever should have been in that circumstance.

Don't ask me, ask the guy who does the videos. That channel has reviewed literally thousands of police encounters, is almost always deferential to the police, and very rarely gives the police an F grade.

Like, seriously, the COPS are the ones breaking the law here and you're still hung up on what the guy should have done. That should give you a clue that your perspective is warped in the wrong direction.

[Brian Fantana 6689]

2 minutes ago, idigTexas said:

Yep.  I'll mosey on back to the lighter side surly.  Pardon my attempts to inject reason and common sense.  Fry the bastards.  

Oh come on, don't be a pussy. No one is saying they should even lose their jobs. But they demonstrably violated both the law and this dude's constitutional rights and should see at least some repercussions for it, even if it's just a censure in their record.

['stache 21825]

On 6/7/2024 at 7:52 AM, RPM said:

Wood

Mississippi state trooper is fired after sending sex tape of her and another woman to colleagues

A Mississippi state trooper was fired after sending explicit images and videos to other cops and now she and the woman she had sex with on video are suing each other.

MHP Trooper Ivana Williams was let go from the agency after distributing the video. The unnamed woman in the video claims Williams said she would delete the tape, but instead shared it.

A Mississippi Department of Public investigation into her behavior found that Williams sent explicit images of herself to her superiors and visited porn websites on her state-issued phone.

The other woman in the tape has sued Williams for $11million, and now the former trooper has filed her own suit against the woman for $20million. Williams said the woman’s lawsuit has damaged her reputation and business relationship.

Williams - who is active on social media with several sites - has said that she is “innocent” of wrongdoing and claims her firing was “retaliatory.”

Yes, I would definitely Fuck the Police in this instance.

[YGIFS 19452]

It's not that enthralling of a video given the landscape we're in right now.  

I'll give 'em both credit, even the officer.  Both could have ramped up their tone and body language.  the officer while being a little too pushy, at least actually did what he was "trained" to do and didn't escalate the situation.  The troubling videos are where the person is either confused, surprised, compliant, declaring rights, or some combination thereof.  And the officer just keeps getting louder and louder and more aggressive and is just fucking baffled as to how the situation didn't magically de-escalate itself.  

It's the equivalent of our new case precedence in shootings.  I point my weapon at you because you're protesting or dropping off a pizza at my house.  You instinctively try to push the weapon away/down or grab it.  I could de-escalate as a responsible carrier of a firearm.  Or I could take your completely natural instinct of self-preservation as an attempt to murder me or steal my house, and shoot you and declare it "self-defense."  

[Pato del Muerto 52534]

On 6/6/2024 at 6:22 AM, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

In the five or so years that they've had it, how many times have they really needed it?

They don’t need it because they have it, duh. 

[BigHorn'13 3383]

14 hours ago, idigTexas said:

No dogs were shot.  No doors were busted down with guns drawn.  No one was physically assaulted.  Voices weren't even raised

Now what if he wasn't white?

14 hours ago, idigTexas said:

I don't think a call has to be made for police to investigate suspicious circumstances that they encounter while doing their jobs.  I guess they technically could have handled it differently

Except they went beyond the scope of their job, and shouldn't have broken the law. Technically it should have been handled differently. 

14 hours ago, idigTexas said:

There are plenty of bad cops who deserve shaming and in many cases legal prosecution.  I do not think the case is made for these two to be vilified.  

I would say most cops are bad, in my experience. And the whole point of the video is accountability, not to vilify. 

11 hours ago, idigTexas said:

Not a cop defender at all, but if this is an example of bad "respect my authoritay" cop behavior, than just shut it all down and everyone can protect his/her/their/its' self.  I know a lot of you would be okay with that. 

Personally, and speaking from my own experiences, nothing good has ever come from interacting with police. I'm not against the concept of law enforcement. I'm just against what it has become. 

11 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Law enforcement can enter private property without a warrant if there are "exigent circumstances," e.g., they see a crime in progress. Was there enough to technically meet that standard here? Maybe, maybe not, but that probably became moot once the citizen admitted he didn't own the place and refused to give his name or provide ID.

Lol no. There were no signs of a burglary and no reason whatsoever to request his name and ID. Suspicious because of a garage door being open at 2am? Ok. Go check it out. Once a valid reason is given, go away. It's really not that difficult and exemplifies why so many people have unpleasant encounters with police. 

11 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Any reviewing authority is going to consider that suspicious and endorse the officer's decision to enter.

Hmm, I wonder why that is?

11 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Both parties seemed unnecessarily entrenched.

One party seemed unnecessarily argumentative and hostile, while the other was progressively getting pissed because he's already been stuck for however long, trying to fix his car, but has another problem now to deal with. 

10 hours ago, idigTexas said:

I understand that the person was under no obligation to help police determine whether a crime was being committed, but why the reluctance to be helpful in that situation unless he was hiding something?

Except he wasn't hiding anything, and being forced to help the cops determine if a crime is being committed. 

10 hours ago, idigTexas said:

He seemed very determined to play the "I know my rights" card, and to be a dick about it.

Speaking the truth in a manner commensurate with how he's being treated is not being a dick.

10 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

Like, seriously, the COPS are the ones breaking the law here and you're still hung up on what the guy should have done. That should give you a clue that your perspective is warped in the wrong direction.

It's kind of like when a, ahem... certain political party's member has been against homosexuality or abortion, but then come to learn their child is gay or needs an abortion to not die, and will change their tune. 

I'm sure Scotty Scheffler was fairly pro law enforcement, too, until he's being dragged out of a car and talked to like a peasant. 

Edited June 20 by BigHorn'13

[Derka 6290]

21 hours ago, idigTexas said:

I don't see the issue here.  Body cams are on.  They are being polite.  They just want to see his ID to prove that he is supposed to be there in case the business owner reports a break in the next day.  This thread is full of cops who are bad people doing bad things.  This is not an example of that.  

What am I missing?  

are you kidding me? did you watch all three videos? the cop abused his power and broke the law because he didn’t like the fact that the citizen wouldn’t respect his authoritah. fuck that cop. 

[Derka 6290]

21 hours ago, idigTexas said:

I don't think a call has to be made for police to investigate suspicious circumstances that they encounter while doing their jobs. 

“you’re on private property with the lights on at 2am, that’s suspicious to me, i’m coming onto the property and executing a search without any warrant or probable cause.”

are. you. serious. 

[Derka 6290]

21 hours ago, idigTexas said:

I don't understand why transmission bro didn't just show them his ID if he really was allowed to be there. 

because he had zero obligation to do so. end of story. he’s a grown ass fucking man, he doesn’t have to comply with officer doofey just because captain dipshit wants to start an investigation with zero probable cause. this is not a police state. the police are not allowed to investigate you for being awake at 2am, and you are under no obligation to assist them in their fishing expedition.

gotta be honest, i’m kind of rooting for some cops to just bust up into your house and tear it apart for no reason in the near future, just because they want to. maybe charge you with interfering with an investigation since you didn’t blindly obey all of their commands. “don’t understand why idig didn’t just do what they said.” hopefully no acorns fall off any trees during the raid.

Edited June 20 by definitely not derka

[Derka 6290]

18 hours ago, idigTexas said:

Nope.  Not a cop defender at all

[C-Man 27238]

https://www.threads.net/@kvng_breezey/post/C8ek0uXtnVr/?xmt=AQGz9mVm3sTP3Rrm46z_qSQ7B5lNbyhbJR680-5RAX5cgg

[BigHorn'13 3383]

Bets on that city/county having a hands free ordinance? But that's only for the citizens, obviously...

[Derka 6290]

nothing to worry about if you aren’t doing anything wrong:

 

[YGIFS 19452]

I wonder how hard @Fondren & Main jerked off to her voice.  NTTAWWT

[hobbes2702 13049]

On 6/19/2024 at 8:03 AM, idigTexas said:

I don't see the issue here.  Body cams are on.  They are being polite.  They just want to see his ID to prove that he is supposed to be there in case the business owner reports a break in the next day.  This thread is full of cops who are bad people doing bad things.  This is not an example of that.  

What am I missing?  

Is this a real reply? This is an example of cops who are bad people doing bad things. 

[hobbes2702 13049]

On 6/19/2024 at 11:34 AM, idigTexas said:

Nope.  Not a cop defender at all, but if this is an example of bad "respect my authoritay" cop behavior, than just shut it all down and everyone can protect his/her/their/its' self.  I know a lot of you would be okay with that. 

We are fucked.   

What a stupid take. Shut it all down because the cops have to follow the law. 

[hobbes2702 13049]

On 6/19/2024 at 12:56 PM, idigTexas said:

I don't see the situation as cut and dry as you do.  I understand that the person was under no obligation to help police determine whether a crime was being committed, but why the reluctance to be helpful in that situation unless he was hiding something?  He seemed very determined to play the "I know my rights" card, and to be a dick about it.  Is that you in the video?  

How dare he stand up for his lawful rights

[Serak The Preparer 3431]

16 hours ago, definitely not derka said:

nothing to worry about if you aren’t doing anything wrong:

 

Fuck off with this "women should never be cops" bullshit. How many clips have we all seen with the shitty male cops without a single "this is why men should not be cops"? The majority of cops being spineless corrupt pieces of shit has nothing to do with sex.

[Bevo 13590]

Woman on Beach Crushed by Police Truck

 

 

 

 

Sandra “Sandy” Schultz-Peters, 66, was fatally hit by a police truck while sitting on the beach on June 13, 2024, in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. The officer involved in the incident, whose identity remains undisclosed, has been put on administrative leave by the Horry County Police Department while the investigation is ongoing.

The occurrence took place around 1 p.m. near the Nash Street beach access. Schultz-Peters was sitting in a chair and reading when she was hit by a 2020 Ford Ranger Pickup driven by the officer. Eyewitness Denis Miller described the scene, “Someone shouted that a person had been run over. We rushed over and saw a woman on the ground with a truck on top of her.”

Another observer, Amanda Bilodeau, described the horrifying aftermath. She recalled, “It was the most intense scream I’ve ever heard, unlike anything from movies or elsewhere.” Despite the immediate assistance provided by Bilodeau and other beachgoers, their attempts to help Schultz-Peters were futile.

With the help of bystanders, including former Marine Brian Stanford, they managed to lift the truck partially off Schultz-Peters. Two paramedics and Stanford’s wife, Cindy, a nurse, tried to stabilize her. Schultz-Peters was conscious and could even provide the code to unlock her phone. However, she later succumbed to her injuries at Grand Strand Regional Medical Center.

Known for her caring nature and involvement in local activities, Schultz-Peters was a much-loved nurse practitioner in the Myrtle Beach community. Her brother, Tony, expressed sadness over the incident, highlighting the impact on family and friends, and expressed concern for the officer involved.

In response to the tragedy, the Horry County Police Department released a statement saying, “What happened on the beach yesterday was heartbreaking, and we recognize the pain our community is feeling. Our condolences go out to all affected by this loss. We understand the community has questions, and so do we.”

Schultz-Peters was remembered by friends as a vibrant woman with a larger-than-life personality. As a nurse practitioner, she was committed to her patients. She also organized a book club and often took walks with her 10-year-old labradoodle, Sophie. Denise Lindgren, a member of the book club, said, “She was beloved.” Schultz-Peters had recently lost her Great Dane, Luther, and was fondly remembered driving with Luther’s head sticking out of the sunroof.

This is not the first incident of this nature. In 2020, another individual survived being hit by a Horry County police patrol car on a nearby beach. Similar occurrences have also been reported in other places such as Daytona Beach, Florida, where two sunbathers were hit by a police sergeant in May 2024.

The South Carolina Highway Patrol is spearheading the investigation, and an internal review is being conducted by the Horry County Police Department. The objective of the authorities is to comprehend the circumstances that led to this accident and prevent similar incidents in the future.

In light of the incident, state lawmakers including Rep. William Bailey and Rep. Tim McGinnis, are advocating for legislation that would limit the use of full-sized vehicles on the beach during peak hours due to safety concerns surrounding visibility and maneuverability.

[hobbes2702 13049]

1 hour ago, Serak The Preparer said:

Fuck off with this "women should never be cops" bullshit. How many clips have we all seen with the shitty male cops without a single "this is why men should not be cops"? The majority of cops being spineless corrupt pieces of shit has nothing to do with sex.

Yup. It ain’t a women thing. It’s jackasses with power and a gun thing.

[Derka 6290]

1 hour ago, Serak The Preparer said:

Fuck off with this "women should never be cops" bullshit. How many clips have we all seen with the shitty male cops without a single "this is why men should not be cops"? The majority of cops being spineless corrupt pieces of shit has nothing to do with sex.

yeah the people in that comment section need help.

[Derka 6290]

roomie cop who was ignoring safety protocols and breaking the law smashes into another vehicle instantly killing two innocent pedestrians. beyond that, the office had another random, unidentified person in his backseat as he was flying towards a reported armed robbery: despite breaking countless department rules and state laws and killing two people, the officer is not on leave.

 

[hookemATL 11801]

FAC

worthless murdering pig. How many times have you witnessed cops doing reckless shit in their cruisers?  
 

FTP

[Jkwellborn 6713]

Woman on Beach Crushed by Police Truck

        Sandra “Sandy” Schultz-Peters, 66, was fatally hit by a police truck while sitting on the beach on June 13, 2024, in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. The officer involved in the incident, whose identity remains undisclosed, has been put on administrative leave by the Horry County Police Department while the investigation is ongoing.
The occurrence took place around 1 p.m. near the Nash Street beach access. Schultz-Peters was sitting in a chair and reading when she was hit by a 2020 Ford Ranger Pickup driven by the officer. Eyewitness Denis Miller described the scene, “Someone shouted that a person had been run over. We rushed over and saw a woman on the ground with a truck on top of her.”
Another observer, Amanda Bilodeau, described the horrifying aftermath. She recalled, “It was the most intense scream I’ve ever heard, unlike anything from movies or elsewhere.” Despite the immediate assistance provided by Bilodeau and other beachgoers, their attempts to help Schultz-Peters were futile.
With the help of bystanders, including former Marine Brian Stanford, they managed to lift the truck partially off Schultz-Peters. Two paramedics and Stanford’s wife, Cindy, a nurse, tried to stabilize her. Schultz-Peters was conscious and could even provide the code to unlock her phone. However, she later succumbed to her injuries at Grand Strand Regional Medical Center.
Known for her caring nature and involvement in local activities, Schultz-Peters was a much-loved nurse practitioner in the Myrtle Beach community. Her brother, Tony, expressed sadness over the incident, highlighting the impact on family and friends, and expressed concern for the officer involved.
In response to the tragedy, the Horry County Police Department released a statement saying, “What happened on the beach yesterday was heartbreaking, and we recognize the pain our community is feeling. Our condolences go out to all affected by this loss. We understand the community has questions, and so do we.”
Schultz-Peters was remembered by friends as a vibrant woman with a larger-than-life personality. As a nurse practitioner, she was committed to her patients. She also organized a book club and often took walks with her 10-year-old labradoodle, Sophie. Denise Lindgren, a member of the book club, said, “She was beloved.” Schultz-Peters had recently lost her Great Dane, Luther, and was fondly remembered driving with Luther’s head sticking out of the sunroof.
This is not the first incident of this nature. In 2020, another individual survived being hit by a Horry County police patrol car on a nearby beach. Similar occurrences have also been reported in other places such as Daytona Beach, Florida, where two sunbathers were hit by a police sergeant in May 2024.
The South Carolina Highway Patrol is spearheading the investigation, and an internal review is being conducted by the Horry County Police Department. The objective of the authorities is to comprehend the circumstances that led to this accident and prevent similar incidents in the future.
In light of the incident, state lawmakers including Rep. William Bailey and Rep. Tim McGinnis, are advocating for legislation that would limit the use of full-sized vehicles on the beach during peak hours due to safety concerns surrounding visibility and maneuverability.

Damn, Sandy was an unfortunate but appropriate nickname.

[HenryJames 66134]

Spoiler

Death of Sandra Birchmore was a homicide, prominent pathologist says

Finding contradicts conclusion of state medical examiner who ruled Birchmore died of suicide

By Laura Crimaldi Globe Staff,Updated June 24, 2024, 3:46 p.m.

Sandra Birchmore. (Family photo)Family photo

Sandra Birchmore. (Family photo)Family photo

Dr. Michael Baden, right, and his wife, attorney Linda Kenney Baden, center, walked to the funeral for Aaron Hernandez in Bristol, Conn., in 2017. Baden reviewed the autopsy of Sandra Birchmore at the request of a lawyer for her estate and concluded she died by homicide. Jessica Rinaldi

In May 2021, the state Office of the Chief Medical Examiner ruled that Birchmore, 23, a former participant in a Stoughton police youth program who was pregnant when she died, killed herself by hanging, according to her death certificate.

“I must disagree,” Baden wrote in the letter.

“Ms. Birchmore did not die of suicidal hanging … The cause of Ms. Birchmore’s death is ‘Strangulation’ and the manner of death is ‘Homicide,’” Baden wrote.

Baden’s determination opens a new front in the controversial case that has prompted investigations by the FBI and the state attorney general’s office. Stoughton police also conducted its own internal affairs investigation of the three former officers. No criminal charges have been brought.

Baden’s career has spanned 50 years, and he has been involved in a series of high-profile investigations. He led a panel on a US House committee that reinvestigated the assassinations of John F. Kennedy and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. in the 1970s, conducted autopsies of the bodies of George Floyd and Michael Brown at the request of their families, and testified for the defense at O.J. Simpson’s murder trial. Baden didn’t respond Friday to requests for comment.

Birchmore’s estate is suing three former Stoughton police officers for wrongful death in a complaint that accuses them of engaging in a “near decade long scheme of grooming and repeated assaults,” which culminated in her death.

They are Matthew G. Farwell, 38, a married former Stoughton police detective, patrolmen’s union president, and father that Birchmore met through the department’s youth program, as well as his twin brother, William, and Robert C. Devine, 52 a former deputy chief in Stoughton who previously led the department’s youth program. They resigned from the department in 2022 and deny the allegations in the civil suit.

The estate is also suing the Town of Stoughton for negligence, which it denies.

Before she died, Birchmore claimed the father of her unborn child was MatthewFarwell. Farwell denied he fathered a baby with Birchmore during a 2021 interview, State Police records show.

Last year, State Police Lieutenant John Fanning wrote in an affidavit filed in Stoughton District Court that investigators have looked into whether Farwell could be charged with aggravated statutory rape based on allegations that he began having sex with Birchmore when she was 15 and he was 27.

If true, those actions would be statutory rape; the age of consent in Massachusetts is 16. In court papers, Matthew Farwell has denied having sex with Birchmore when she was underage.

Former Stoughton police officer Matthew Farwell Stoughton Police Department

Birchmore participated in the Stoughton police youth program from the time she was 13 until she graduated from high school in 2015 and met the Farwell brothers and Devine in that setting.

In a decision in the wrongful death suit earlier this year, Superior Court Judge Brian A. Davis wrote that Devine and William Farwell had sex with Birchmore in their patrol cars when she was an adult. Davis cited an unredacted copy of the Stoughton police internal affairs report as a source.

Sandra Birchmore attended a gathering of a Stoughton Police Department youth program in 2014.Stoughton PD Facebook

Baden’s letter also raised other concerns about the investigation into Birchmore’s death.

While the state medical examiner found that Birchmore was pregnant when she died, the office “apparently did not send fetal tissue for DNA analysis to determine who the father was.”

State Police records show that investigators asked Farwell in 2021 to provide a DNA sample, but he declined.

Swabs from Birchmore’s body, hair and fingernail clippings, and clothing she was wearing were taken for a sexual assault kit. But Baden wrote in his report that it “appears” the evidence was not tested. He said he believes the kit and fetal tissue could still be examined.

Police officer William Farwell. Stoughton Police Department

Spokespeople for the Massachusetts State Police and state Office of the Chief Medical Examiner, which helped to investigate Birchmore’s death, didn’t respond Friday to questions about Baden’s claims about the fetal tissue and sexual assault kit. They also declined to comment on Baden’s letter, citing ongoing investigations by several agencies.

On Monday, David Traub, a spokesperson for Norfolk District Attorney Michael W. Morrissey, said “DNA testing has been done on items with the potential to produce evidence of the potential crimes being investigated, and other items have been preserved.” He declined to provide more details “while multiple agencies continue to investigate.”

On Feb. 1, 2021, surveillance cameras captured Matthew Farwell arriving and then leaving Birchmore’s apartment building in Canton, and he was the last known person to see her alive, according to the Stoughton police internal affairs report. Birchmore’s body was found there three days later.

Asked for comment Friday, a lawyer for Farwell pointed to a March statement in which he denied the allegations in the civil suit. Farwell and another attorney representing him didn’t return messages Friday.

In 2022, Matthew Farwell told the Globe in a statement that he had “not committed any crimes.”

During an interview with State Police two days after Birchmore’s body was found, Farwell gave an account of their encounter at her apartment on Feb. 1, 2021.

He said he told Birchmore that he wasn’t the father of her unborn child, “it was all over,” and he was “blocking her from all forms of communication,” Fanning wrote in a report. .

“Matt said that Sandra was upset, but she did not make any suicidal statements at all,” Fanning wrote. “Matt said that he left and Sandra was standing in the kitchen when he walked out.”

In his letter, Baden wrote that the Stoughton internal affairs investigation found that Birchmore was “happy that she was pregnant.” He also wrote “there was no suicide note.”

Attorney Steven J. Marullo, who represents Birchmore’s estate in the civil suit, said he asked Baden to review records in the case after examining the autopsy conducted by the state medical examiner’s office.

“I saw certain things in the autopsy report that didn’t gel with the conclusion that it was a suicide. I decided at that time we needed to hire our own expert pathologist,” Marullo said Thursday.

The state medical examiner’s autopsy of Birchmore hasn’t been released, and the records are not public under state law.

In Baden’s letter, he said Birchmore fractured her right hyoid bone, a small, U-shaped bone in her neck. Such an injury “occurs rarely, if at all, in suicidal hanging and does occur in half of homicidal strangulations of women,” wrote Baden, citing a textbook by forensic pathologists Dr. Vincent DiMaio and Dr. Dominick J. DiMaio.

The fracture, along with Birchmore’s other injuries, “are commonly found in homicidal strangulation — manual and ligature — but not in suicidal hanging,” Baden wrote.

Also, autopsy photos showed a ligature was entangled in Birchmore’s hair, which “occurs when there is resistance during homicidal strangulation,” Baden wrote.

Baden said Birchmore would have lost consciousness “within seconds” after the ligature was fastened around her neck and died “within a few minutes.”

He also wrote that the ligature was found tied to a doorknob, adding that he believes that was done to “give the appearance of a suicidal hanging.”

Trauma to the hyoid bone and cartilages in the larynx in suicide cases has been widely researched, with a 2018 article in “Forensic Science International” calling such injuries “one of the most studied and paradoxically contradictory topics in forensic pathology.”

The article described a study of 178 people who died by suicidal hanging over a three-year period and found at least one fracture of the hyoid bone in 39 percent of the cases.

In a 2021 report, State Police Trooper Matthew Dunne described finding Birchmore’s body in her bedroom on Feb. 4, 2021.

He said he found no indications of physical abuse or bruising, swelling, external trauma, or markings suggesting a struggle, the report said.

A toxicology report found Birchmore was taking sertraline, a prescription psychotropic medication usually taken for depression, Baden wrote. The civil suit brought by Birchmore’s estate said she endured “significant mental and emotional problems,” and lost her grandmother and mother who raised her when she was a teenager.

In a statement Sunday , Stoughton Police Chief Donna McNamara said she had read Baden’s findings.

“I was profoundly disturbed and troubled by what I read. While I am not a trained medical examiner, and I am not qualified to draw any direct conclusions, the findings certainly warrant further examination at the highest level,” said McNamara, who was named chief in 2017 after being appointed to lead the department on an interim basis the year before.

Stoughton police didn’t have the authority to investigate Birchmore’s death because she died in Canton, McNamara said, but the force has assisted other agencies pursue the case.

“Sandra received not so much as a sliver of justice during her life, and we will not cease in our efforts to ensure our duty to administer justice,” McNamara said. “Every good and decent police officer should be aware of and angry about the injustices inflicted upon Sandra Birchmore. Sandra idolized police officers and what policing stood for in America, and she was victimized as a result.”

On Friday, Traub, the spokesperson for Morrissey, referred to a 2022 statement in which the office said the investigation to date had found “no evidence of foul play” in Birchmore’s death, but promised that “prosecutors will review any additional information.”

“That includes this report,” he said. “This is an active and open investigation and multiple law enforcement agencies continue to review all information as it comes available. That review is underway.”

Morrissey’s office is under scrutiny by federal investigators over allegations of a police coverup involving the 2022 death of Boston police Officer John O’Keefe in Canton. Closing arguments are expected Tuesday in the second-degree murder trial of O’Keefe’s girlfriend, Karen Read. She has pleaded not guilty.

Police officer Robert Devine.Stoughton Police Department

In March, the Peace Officers Standards and Training Commission, the state’s law enforcement oversight agency, approved an agreement with Matthew Farwell that prohibits him from working as a police officer in Massachusetts and added him to a national database of sanctioned officers. Under the agreement, he didn’t admit to any wrongdoing.

The commission is also seeking to decertify William Farwell and suspend or decertify Devine, records show. Those proceedings are pending.

Shelley Murphy of the Globe staff contributed to this report.

 

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APD officer allegedly caught beating his 2-year-old son on indoor security camera

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The mother then provided police with five videos from a Nest camera set up inside the children's bedroom. One video allegedly showed Caldwell's 2-year-old son trying to shield himself from his father before being picked up and "violently" struck in the buttocks. Caldwell allegedly hit his son eight times before dropping him to the ground.

The video shows Caldwell's son "crying hysterically" and trying to crawl away before Caldwell picks him up and slams him on the mattress. Caldwell then hits his son in the face three times before covering him with a blanket, according to court documents.

During an interview with Caldwell's 4-year-old son, the boy told investigators his dad threw a monster truck at his back. He also allegedly said he gets hit a lot when he gets in trouble and is forced to do push-ups by Caldwell. The 4-year-old also accused Caldwell of slapping him in the face on the left side of his cheek.

Caldwell is the same officer who, back in August 2016, was suspended for 45 days after he pepper-sprayed a handcuffed man in the face during South by Southwest (SXSW).

Real tough guy here

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For fucks sake...as a middle aged blonde blue eyed asshole, can I just point a finger and condemn another human being?

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Death of Sandra Birchmore was a homicide, prominent pathologist says

Finding contradicts conclusion of state medical examiner who ruled Birchmore died of suicide

By Laura Crimaldi Globe Staff,Updated June 24, 2024, 3:46 p.m.

Sandra Birchmore. (Family photo)Family photo

Sandra Birchmore. (Family photo)Family photo

Dr. Michael Baden, right, and his wife, attorney Linda Kenney Baden, center, walked to the funeral for Aaron Hernandez in Bristol, Conn., in 2017. Baden reviewed the autopsy of Sandra Birchmore at the request of a lawyer for her estate and concluded she died by homicide. Jessica Rinaldi

In May 2021, the state Office of the Chief Medical Examiner ruled that Birchmore, 23, a former participant in a Stoughton police youth program who was pregnant when she died, killed herself by hanging, according to her death certificate.

“I must disagree,” Baden wrote in the letter.

“Ms. Birchmore did not die of suicidal hanging … The cause of Ms. Birchmore’s death is ‘Strangulation’ and the manner of death is ‘Homicide,’” Baden wrote.

Baden’s determination opens a new front in the controversial case that has prompted investigations by the FBI and the state attorney general’s office. Stoughton police also conducted its own internal affairs investigation of the three former officers. No criminal charges have been brought.

Baden’s career has spanned 50 years, and he has been involved in a series of high-profile investigations. He led a panel on a US House committee that reinvestigated the assassinations of John F. Kennedy and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. in the 1970s, conducted autopsies of the bodies of George Floyd and Michael Brown at the request of their families, and testified for the defense at O.J. Simpson’s murder trial. Baden didn’t respond Friday to requests for comment.

Birchmore’s estate is suing three former Stoughton police officers for wrongful death in a complaint that accuses them of engaging in a “near decade long scheme of grooming and repeated assaults,” which culminated in her death.

They are Matthew G. Farwell, 38, a married former Stoughton police detective, patrolmen’s union president, and father that Birchmore met through the department’s youth program, as well as his twin brother, William, and Robert C. Devine, 52 a former deputy chief in Stoughton who previously led the department’s youth program. They resigned from the department in 2022 and deny the allegations in the civil suit.

The estate is also suing the Town of Stoughton for negligence, which it denies.

Before she died, Birchmore claimed the father of her unborn child was MatthewFarwell. Farwell denied he fathered a baby with Birchmore during a 2021 interview, State Police records show.

Last year, State Police Lieutenant John Fanning wrote in an affidavit filed in Stoughton District Court that investigators have looked into whether Farwell could be charged with aggravated statutory rape based on allegations that he began having sex with Birchmore when she was 15 and he was 27.

If true, those actions would be statutory rape; the age of consent in Massachusetts is 16. In court papers, Matthew Farwell has denied having sex with Birchmore when she was underage.

Former Stoughton police officer Matthew Farwell Stoughton Police Department

Birchmore participated in the Stoughton police youth program from the time she was 13 until she graduated from high school in 2015 and met the Farwell brothers and Devine in that setting.

In a decision in the wrongful death suit earlier this year, Superior Court Judge Brian A. Davis wrote that Devine and William Farwell had sex with Birchmore in their patrol cars when she was an adult. Davis cited an unredacted copy of the Stoughton police internal affairs report as a source.

Sandra Birchmore attended a gathering of a Stoughton Police Department youth program in 2014.Stoughton PD Facebook

Baden’s letter also raised other concerns about the investigation into Birchmore’s death.

While the state medical examiner found that Birchmore was pregnant when she died, the office “apparently did not send fetal tissue for DNA analysis to determine who the father was.”

State Police records show that investigators asked Farwell in 2021 to provide a DNA sample, but he declined.

Swabs from Birchmore’s body, hair and fingernail clippings, and clothing she was wearing were taken for a sexual assault kit. But Baden wrote in his report that it “appears” the evidence was not tested. He said he believes the kit and fetal tissue could still be examined.

Police officer William Farwell. Stoughton Police Department

Spokespeople for the Massachusetts State Police and state Office of the Chief Medical Examiner, which helped to investigate Birchmore’s death, didn’t respond Friday to questions about Baden’s claims about the fetal tissue and sexual assault kit. They also declined to comment on Baden’s letter, citing ongoing investigations by several agencies.

On Monday, David Traub, a spokesperson for Norfolk District Attorney Michael W. Morrissey, said “DNA testing has been done on items with the potential to produce evidence of the potential crimes being investigated, and other items have been preserved.” He declined to provide more details “while multiple agencies continue to investigate.”

On Feb. 1, 2021, surveillance cameras captured Matthew Farwell arriving and then leaving Birchmore’s apartment building in Canton, and he was the last known person to see her alive, according to the Stoughton police internal affairs report. Birchmore’s body was found there three days later.

Asked for comment Friday, a lawyer for Farwell pointed to a March statement in which he denied the allegations in the civil suit. Farwell and another attorney representing him didn’t return messages Friday.

In 2022, Matthew Farwell told the Globe in a statement that he had “not committed any crimes.”

During an interview with State Police two days after Birchmore’s body was found, Farwell gave an account of their encounter at her apartment on Feb. 1, 2021.

He said he told Birchmore that he wasn’t the father of her unborn child, “it was all over,” and he was “blocking her from all forms of communication,” Fanning wrote in a report. .

“Matt said that Sandra was upset, but she did not make any suicidal statements at all,” Fanning wrote. “Matt said that he left and Sandra was standing in the kitchen when he walked out.”

In his letter, Baden wrote that the Stoughton internal affairs investigation found that Birchmore was “happy that she was pregnant.” He also wrote “there was no suicide note.”

Attorney Steven J. Marullo, who represents Birchmore’s estate in the civil suit, said he asked Baden to review records in the case after examining the autopsy conducted by the state medical examiner’s office.

“I saw certain things in the autopsy report that didn’t gel with the conclusion that it was a suicide. I decided at that time we needed to hire our own expert pathologist,” Marullo said Thursday.

The state medical examiner’s autopsy of Birchmore hasn’t been released, and the records are not public under state law.

In Baden’s letter, he said Birchmore fractured her right hyoid bone, a small, U-shaped bone in her neck. Such an injury “occurs rarely, if at all, in suicidal hanging and does occur in half of homicidal strangulations of women,” wrote Baden, citing a textbook by forensic pathologists Dr. Vincent DiMaio and Dr. Dominick J. DiMaio.

The fracture, along with Birchmore’s other injuries, “are commonly found in homicidal strangulation — manual and ligature — but not in suicidal hanging,” Baden wrote.

Also, autopsy photos showed a ligature was entangled in Birchmore’s hair, which “occurs when there is resistance during homicidal strangulation,” Baden wrote.

Baden said Birchmore would have lost consciousness “within seconds” after the ligature was fastened around her neck and died “within a few minutes.”

He also wrote that the ligature was found tied to a doorknob, adding that he believes that was done to “give the appearance of a suicidal hanging.”

Trauma to the hyoid bone and cartilages in the larynx in suicide cases has been widely researched, with a 2018 article in “Forensic Science International” calling such injuries “one of the most studied and paradoxically contradictory topics in forensic pathology.”

The article described a study of 178 people who died by suicidal hanging over a three-year period and found at least one fracture of the hyoid bone in 39 percent of the cases.

In a 2021 report, State Police Trooper Matthew Dunne described finding Birchmore’s body in her bedroom on Feb. 4, 2021.

He said he found no indications of physical abuse or bruising, swelling, external trauma, or markings suggesting a struggle, the report said.

A toxicology report found Birchmore was taking sertraline, a prescription psychotropic medication usually taken for depression, Baden wrote. The civil suit brought by Birchmore’s estate said she endured “significant mental and emotional problems,” and lost her grandmother and mother who raised her when she was a teenager.

In a statement Sunday , Stoughton Police Chief Donna McNamara said she had read Baden’s findings.

“I was profoundly disturbed and troubled by what I read. While I am not a trained medical examiner, and I am not qualified to draw any direct conclusions, the findings certainly warrant further examination at the highest level,” said McNamara, who was named chief in 2017 after being appointed to lead the department on an interim basis the year before.

Stoughton police didn’t have the authority to investigate Birchmore’s death because she died in Canton, McNamara said, but the force has assisted other agencies pursue the case.

“Sandra received not so much as a sliver of justice during her life, and we will not cease in our efforts to ensure our duty to administer justice,” McNamara said. “Every good and decent police officer should be aware of and angry about the injustices inflicted upon Sandra Birchmore. Sandra idolized police officers and what policing stood for in America, and she was victimized as a result.”

On Friday, Traub, the spokesperson for Morrissey, referred to a 2022 statement in which the office said the investigation to date had found “no evidence of foul play” in Birchmore’s death, but promised that “prosecutors will review any additional information.”

“That includes this report,” he said. “This is an active and open investigation and multiple law enforcement agencies continue to review all information as it comes available. That review is underway.”

Morrissey’s office is under scrutiny by federal investigators over allegations of a police coverup involving the 2022 death of Boston police Officer John O’Keefe in Canton. Closing arguments are expected Tuesday in the second-degree murder trial of O’Keefe’s girlfriend, Karen Read. She has pleaded not guilty.

Police officer Robert Devine.Stoughton Police Department

In March, the Peace Officers Standards and Training Commission, the state’s law enforcement oversight agency, approved an agreement with Matthew Farwell that prohibits him from working as a police officer in Massachusetts and added him to a national database of sanctioned officers. Under the agreement, he didn’t admit to any wrongdoing.

The commission is also seeking to decertify William Farwell and suspend or decertify Devine, records show. Those proceedings are pending.

Shelley Murphy of the Globe staff contributed to this report.

 

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APD officer allegedly caught beating his 2-year-old son on indoor security camera

Real tough guy here

Just trying to make it home.safely.

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it’s just wild how quickly these fat, slovenly, scared-to-death cops escalate things from “stopped for running a stop sign” to, “i’m body slamming you”, to, “i’m murdering you as you run away from me with your hands up.”

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