House of the Dragon

[thunderlounge 7,825]

3 hours ago, CurlyDumps said:

I chuckled at that shot of Rhaenyra watching Daemon fight. She had this gleeful, euphoric look on her face. Like damn girl, you're not even a little bit worried about your uncle right now?

Flail to the back was a bitch move. I was waiting for D to throat cut him from the back after getting up. 
 

Nope. Just walked off pissed.

[Chips O'Toole 1,323]

I thought it was really well done.  The one thing that was bizarre and totally out of place was when the gold cloaks were fucking up all the thieves and murderers, etc..  They called for the rapist, pulled his pants down to reveal his ass... and then there was a slapsticky canned fart noise during the close-up of the naked ass.  I rewound it because both my wife and I were like wtf, did we just hear that?  Tonally, it made no sense at all as it was such a Blazing Saddles/Farrelly bros gag fart-sound in a completely serious show.

But yeah, I'm in, this is way better than I thought it would be.

[MirrOlure 14,770]

54 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Very average looking young gal. Should I say it 3 times?

Only if you're posting through Tapatalk....

[Drew 2,408]

Really enjoyed it.

 

Kind of hoping this story gets resolved this season though, or maybe at the end of season 2, and then they can do other Targ related stories...

[kingkoopa6 8,350]

this funny

 

 

[Bama Chick 28,596]

I thought it was really well done.  The one thing that was bizarre and totally out of place was when the gold cloaks were fucking up all the thieves and murderers, etc..  They called for the rapist, pulled his pants down to reveal his ass... and then there was a slapsticky canned fart noise during the close-up of the naked ass.  I rewound it because both my wife and I were like wtf, did we just hear that?  Tonally, it made no sense at all as it was such a Blazing Saddles/Farrelly bros gag fart-sound in a completely serious show.
But yeah, I'm in, this is way better than I thought it would be.

Ummmmm ….. that wasn’t a fart noise.

That was his junk getting chopped off.

[Vegas64 674]

2 hours ago, thunderlounge said:

Flail to the back was a bitch move. I was waiting for D to throat cut him from the back after getting up. 
 

Nope. Just walked off pissed.

I’m with you, especially as we saw his cheap move against the hands son and we are led to believe he’s ruthless and doesn’t fight with complete honor.  But yea his armor and helmet was dope.

Weird how the “tech” is the exact same in the GoT/HoD universe. Though it’s nearly 200 years there is still the same village and building styles and designs based of same material and same weaponry. Not even a little advancement in 3 generations?

Edited August 22, 2022 by Vegas64

[Greg Davis Apologist 213]

I’m with you, especially as we saw his cheap move against the hands son and we are led to believe he’s ruthless and doesn’t fight with complete honor.  But yea his armor and helmet was dope.
Weird how the “tech” is the exact same in the GoT/HoD universe. Though it’s nearly 200 years there is still the same village and building styles and designs based of same material and same weaponry. Not even a little advancement in 3 generations?

I bet the catapult was invented between this time period and GOT but it remains to be seen

[Buzzrock 14,920]

52 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

I’m with you, especially as we saw his cheap move against the hands son and we are led to believe he’s ruthless and doesn’t fight with complete honor.  But yea his armor and helmet was dope.

Weird how the “tech” is the exact same in the GoT/HoD universe. Though it’s nearly 200 years there is still the same village and building styles and designs based of same material and same weaponry. Not even a little advancement in 3 generations?

Armor and helmet were cool…but who jousts in an open faced helmet?

[CooterBrown 18,010]

I’m with you, especially as we saw his cheap move against the hands son and we are led to believe he’s ruthless and doesn’t fight with complete honor.  But yea his armor and helmet was dope.
Weird how the “tech” is the exact same in the GoT/HoD universe. Though it’s nearly 200 years there is still the same village and building styles and designs based of same material and same weaponry. Not even a little advancement in 3 generations?

There’s a theory out there that ASOIAF is actually post apocalyptic science fiction that kind of explains the lack of scientific progress.

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/news/a44092/game-of-thrones-wall-theory-preston-jacobs/

[Haphap 741]

56 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

I’m with you, especially as we saw his cheap move against the hands son and we are led to believe he’s ruthless and doesn’t fight with complete honor.  But yea his armor and helmet was dope.

Weird how the “tech” is the exact same in the GoT/HoD universe. Though it’s nearly 200 years there is still the same village and building styles and designs based of same material and same weaponry. Not even a little advancement in 3 generations?

  Were there significant advancement in weaponry and architecture, or difference in way of life between 10th century and 12th century England ?  Some scholars probably can outline the differences.  But to a layman it probably feel similar,  same pox different century

[RamjetFDO 10,575]

There’s a theory out there that ASOIAF is actually post apocalyptic science fiction that kind of explains the lack of scientific progress.

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/news/a44092/game-of-thrones-wall-theory-preston-jacobs/

"The Doom"

[Hermanator 7,043]

There weren't a ton of scientific advancements before the 19th century in general. There would be centuries where the way people lived didn't change much from a technology standpoint. 

The episode was fine and I think it'll be worth watching but will be far different from GOT. It jumped in too quickly and didn't let things get set up as far as the characters, so on the surface after 1 episode the characters seem lacking in interest. I know there's no way they strike lightning twice with such an iconic, interesting, and likable character being brought out of nowhere like Dinklage did but they need to take an episode or two to really show a reason to give a shit about any of these people. Because the opening was really generic from that standpoint. 

Some silly stuff like open faced jousting helmet and the hand openly fighting with the king's brother. Could have been done more subtly like GOT did in that first season. 

[thunderlounge 7,825]

I’m guessing the story ark of this is GOT backwards. In this one they come out blazing with dragons, and by the end they’ll be gone. 

[Greg Davis Apologist 213]

Qyburn and Sammy T. definitely made advancements in GoT. Qyburn with the scorpion and Frankenstein-type shit with The Mountain and Sam by curing Greyscale. I’m sure there are more examples

[Augustus 3,061]

50 minutes ago, Haphap said:

  Were there significant advancement in weaponry and architecture, or difference in way of life between 10th century and 12th century England ?  Some scholars probably can outline the differences.  But to a layman it probably feel similar,  same pox different century

Weaponry, no.  Romanesque to Gothic architecture happened over that period.  

[AUS-97HORN 11,758]

21 hours ago, Etexhorn13 said:

Trying switching/crating a new user name. That got it to play for me, but now the sound has cut out and doesn’t work regardless of which device I’m trying to use. 

thanks for this suggestion, it worked on the same fucking TV that my standard profile didnt work.    

 

HBO claiming a limited number of folks crashed last night.... bullshit.

 

https://www.ign.com/articles/house-of-the-dragon-hbo-max-crashes-game-of-thrones-premiere

[Augustus 3,061]

Just now, AUS-97HORN said:

thanks for this suggestion, it worked on the same fucking TV that my standard profile didnt work.    

 

HBO claiming a limited number of folks crashed last night.... bullshit.

 

https://www.ign.com/articles/house-of-the-dragon-hbo-max-crashes-game-of-thrones-premiere

Well technically, the number had to be limited.

[Cornpop 230]

[thunderlounge 7,825]

33 minutes ago, Greg Davis Apologist said:

Qyburn and Sammy T. definitely made advancements in GoT. Qyburn with the scorpion and Frankenstein-type shit with The Mountain and Sam by curing Greyscale. I’m sure there are more examples

Speaking of greyscale, anyone else think ol king getting the tetanus or whatever from the throne (which is much more a display) is the root source?

[MissingInAction 25,068]

Loved the writing and cast of unknowns.

The tone has been set and I like it alot. 

 

[Greg Davis Apologist 213]

Speaking of greyscale, anyone else think ol king getting the tetanus or whatever from the throne (which is much more a display) is the root source?

Could be. Maybe some of those swords are poison-laced Dornish weapons. Just spitballin’…

[thunderlounge 7,825]

With the detail to the back wound specifically. Then his mention of it coming from sitting on the throne, as well as showing him getting more in a few scenes.

Must be something to it, else why bother?

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

Armor and helmet were cool…but who jousts in an open faced helmet?

Your mom. 

[Guest]

52 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

Loved the writing and cast of unknowns.

The tone has been set and I like it alot. 

 

Paddy isn’t an unknown. But the rest, yeah probably. 

[Hermanator 7,043]

12 hours ago, Js1 said:

There’s supposedly a time jump midway through so grown up Rhaenyra is Emma D’Arcy

So far they've made it seem obvious that this king isn't going to last much longer than ol Robert and foreshadowed some predictable stuff. 

Would be awesome if they completely flip it on it's head and kill off the girl instead and just hired DArcy for a day just to put the name in the cast to throw people off. I find the girl among the most annoying of the first episode anyway. 

[billfromlaketravis 11,467]

22 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Paddy isn’t an unknown. But the rest, yeah probably. 

Matt Smith portrayed Doctor Who for years. He's pretty famous in the UK and in sci fi community. 

He was also played Prince Philip on The Crown.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Matt Smith portrayed Doctor Who for years. He's pretty famous in the UK and in sci fi community. 

He was also played Prince Philip on The Crown.

Knew I’d seen him from somewhere. 

[bschoolprof 6,252]

a few things:

1) In a fantasy show with fire breathing dragons, are we really arguing verisimilitude re: technology advances?

2) I thought the the makeup department had the King's evil brother all done up to look like link from Zelda or some giant elf creature.  But, no, he's just an odd looking dude in real life.

3) Can we change the thread title to actually match the title of the show? 

[henrygandorf 29,190]

4 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

Weird how the “tech” is the exact same in the GoT/HoD universe. Though it’s nearly 200 years there is still the same village and building styles and designs based of same material and same weaponry. Not even a little advancement in 3 generations?

they evolved to a throne made of swords that didn't almost kill you every time you sat on it.

if got taught us anything, you could be in a huge battle, be on the verge of death, and get through it.  but if the camera panned in on a small scrape or open wound, it's just a matter of time.

 

Edited August 23, 2022 by henrygandorf

[closetohumping 17,441]

That was intense.  Glad I’m not binging

[closetohumping 17,441]

22 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

Just hearing the names of the great houses sucked me right back in.   Really good start to the series.  The action, intrigue, and the spectacle are there.  Now we just need to see if they develop characters that can live up to it.  

Yep. I marked out when they showed Rickon Stark

[Augustus 3,061]

Okay, even better on rewatch.

I don't think Daemon's a bad dude at all.  Just has an ego, some resentment, normal stuff for a 2nd born Prince.  I stopped reading Fire and Blood as soon as Viserys died so I don't know what happens, but I don't think Daemon would betray or conspire against his brother.  

Telling his brother the king that he is weak, that the council knows it and manipulates him for their ends, that seemed sincere.  I also happen to agree with him that Otto is a cunt.

It's easy to see how Rhaenyra and Alicent's friendship is gonna get torn apart if she becomes the new queen.

 

 

 

[RamjetFDO 10,575]

3) Cans wes changes the threads titles to actuallies matches the titles of the shows? 

FIFS.

[wild_turkey 3,159]

Weird how the “tech” is the exact same in the GoT/HoD universe. Though it’s nearly 200 years there is still the same village and building styles and designs based of same material and same weaponry. Not even a little advancement in 3 generations?

1. That’s not weird to me at all.
2. There’s more than 3 generations in 200 years.

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4,976]

I don't really get the complaints about the tech not changing or the buildings looking the same. There are still buildings that look the same today as they did three hundred years ago. Turns out when you build something out of stone it lasts a really long time. As far as the tech not changing, it is a fantasy series, not a historical series. If this fantasy world mirrored our own in those regards, there would have been handgonnes (the first true handheld firearm) by the time their was armor like they depict.

I thought it was an excellent episode.

[0xdeadbeef 1,651]

Damn it. I wasn't going to get sucked in.  I was just going to watch 15 minutes while I walked in place and get my daily steps to validate by opinion that it was going to suck.

I'm in.

 

That said, they really need to up their music game to get anywhere near GoT.

[WBT 20,565]

I thought it was really good.  Matt Smith is killing it.

[Sandman 3,403]

12 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Paddy isn’t an unknown. But the rest, yeah probably. 

I just looked up his IMDB, I had never heard of him. I've seen a couple of movies he's been in but I don't remember him at all. Matt Smith is the only person I recognize so far.

[kevwun 15,783]

You have to view the Doom as the fall of the Western Roman Empire.  Society and technology devolved for hundreds of years after that happened.

[Post Oak 20,213]

Daemon is going to be my favorite character. 

[Hozz 1,017]

https://www.outkick.com/house-of-the-dragon-premiere-ratings-10-million-hbo/

Very impressive launch considering the steaming pile of shit that was GOT S8.

[BHMCruiser 1,813]

16 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

I’m with you, especially as we saw his cheap move against the hands son and we are led to believe he’s ruthless and doesn’t fight with complete honor.  But yea his armor and helmet was dope.

Weird how the “tech” is the exact same in the GoT/HoD universe. Though it’s nearly 200 years there is still the same village and building styles and designs based of same material and same weaponry. Not even a little advancement in 3 generations?

Just the opposite. The King's Landing we see at GoT is in profound decline. You can see how new and beautiful many of the buildings are (including the Red Keep) during the initial dragon flight over the city. 

[Vegas64 674]

23 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said:

Just the opposite. The King's Landing we see at GoT is in profound decline. You can see how new and beautiful many of the buildings are (including the Red Keep) during the initial dragon flight over the city. 

Got it, I was wrong then. It just seemed to this layman's eyes that it was the same set pieces and standard, straight out of central casting "Medieval Era" setting and they made an effort to highlight to viewers that this is nearly 200 years prior to that last Medieval Era settings you saw which looked exactly like this one.

[Augustus 3,061]

It's reasonable that the city's buildings/architecture would look the same over the period of time covered in both series--although things would definitely be shinier and newer in HotD, and we see in GoT that the big, beautiful dragonpit is a ruin.

What I found out of place was a weirwood tree in King's Landing.

 

 

[Augustus 3,061]

If someone handed me a wooden stick and said "We're gonna train you to be a dragon keeper" that's the day I get the fuck out of King's Landing.

[CheesePie 238]

Rhaenyra and Alicents’ blossoming lesbian relationship is going to be tested when Rhaenyra finds out her bff with benefits is fucking her dad. 

[Augustus 3,061]

3 minutes ago, CheesePie said:

Rhaenyra and Alicents’ blossoming lesbian relationship is going to be tested when Rhaenyra finds out her bff with benefits is fucking her dad. 

I wonder if Otto has been giving it to her.

The things with her chewing her fingernails to bleeding stumps was interesting.

[Horn80 6,119]

20 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Very average looking young gal. Should I say it 3 times?

Monkey woman, monkey woman, monkey woman

[CheesePie 238]

8 minutes ago, Augustus said:

I wonder if Otto has been giving it to her.

The things with her chewing her fingernails to bleeding stumps was interesting.

There is a love shape with points greater than three, I’m certain of that. Otto would be a sick participant, but this is GoT after all.

Edited August 23, 2022 by CheesePie