House of the Dragon

[Skipper 6,135]

Glad I didn't know anything about the books or that scene going in.  Thought it was a great episode.  

[utxmike05 1,828]

Great start to the season.  Glad my Sunday TV queue is loading back up.

I had to google a family tree and dragon chart to refresh myself.  It's been awhile.

I still don't know which side I take...I know I should definitely be Team Rhaenyra, but I can't stand Daemon's face.

Go Starks.

[speed817 19,280]

[thunderlounge 7,836]

Edited June 17 by thunderlounge

[Mileslong 4,727]

Green are a bunch of cunts.

So uncle fuckers are what then?

[Jerry Callo 8,703]

7 minutes ago, Mileslong said:

So uncle fuckers are what then?

Also cunts.

[Sgt Hulk 13,716]

Holy fuck the end lol

[mdmost 43,002]

Dameon and Aemond are two peas in an act out without worry if they're going to f everything up pod. I feel like we're going to be swayed from Team Black to Team Green back and forth with each move. 

Cregan Stark was great. I hope that's not the last we see of the North this season. 

[Texzilla588 769]

I can’t figure out all these blond folks on this show. They’re all fucking each other when they’re killing other blond folks.

[WBT 20,572]

Was cool to see the wall and Ice again

[billfromlaketravis 11,483]

The opening sequence was awesome. I would have been cool with a 1 episode detour in the North, but the focus should be on the Targ Civil War. It’s the completed, source material and what the Fat Man wanted to focus on “after” A Song of Ice and Fire and GOT. 

However, I think the fans are more interested in the North and the Starks than dragons. Hopefully some deleted scenes at the Wall or Winterfell find their way on to the internet. 

 

[bschoolprof 6,254]

Absolutely solid plan by Daemon.  I’m utterly shocked it didn’t go as expected. 

[52-80 19,159]

On 6/17/2024 at 6:23 AM, Haphap said:

The gruesomeness of the scene has to be dialed down was explained in this article

https://ew.com/blood-cheese-house-of-the-dragon-season-2-book-changes-explained-exclusive-8663564

i get some of the reasons why changes had to be made in the show production. and obv show writers are weaker than book author... but damn... george rr's verstion of the story just embarasses the tv rendition

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The way Martin wrote it, the Dowager Queen Alicent Hightower (played by Olivia Cooke on House of the Dragon) is present and there are three of Helaena's children instead of two, all of which are awake and forced to bear witness. Blood kills the bedmaid and guard; Cheese threatens to rape Jaehaera when the queen takes too long to pick which of her children to kill; and when Helaena finally succumbs and chooses her youngest, 2-year-old Maelor, Blood beheads Jaehaerys instead, leaving Maelor with the knowledge that his mother wanted him dead.

Edited June 19 by 52-80

[52-80 19,159]

i also cant buy this excuse *at all*.  you're working on a mega-budget show with CGI dragons and have issues with practical filming and direction with child actors - whose detailed acting and expressions nobody pays close attention to?

animate it. use stand-in props for it. film it separate and splice it. a million different ways to get around "we cant have children in gory scenes", as if theres never been horror movies with kids in it.

 

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The other challenges stemmed from the logistics of utilizing child actors. "We knew that we would be challenged to get performances out of children that young — as a person who has kids around these ages, I'm intimately familiar with all of that," Condal says. "Then there are things that you can and cannot expose children to on a movie set. If you were to try to perform a faithful rendering of that story, you'd be challenged from all angles in terms of getting a performance out of a child. A lot of times it seems like the kid is going through that, but you're using clever cutaways and insert shots."

 

[Buzzrock 14,920]

Production was great, actors killed it. It was sad when Rhaenyra was grieving, but they’ve poked the tiger now. The actor playing Aegon is killing it. Rhaenys would get it. 
 

Too bad Disney Star Wars can’t figure out how to do these production values, acting, and writing. 

[Jerry Callo 8,703]

1 hour ago, Buzzrock said:

Rhaenys would get it. 

I had to google to figure out which one she is - turns out she's the old one one that is a couple years younger than I am.  Damnit.

[Hank_Hill 18,807]

7 hours ago, 52-80 said:

i get some of the reasons why changes had to be made in the show production. and obv show writers are weaker than book author... but damn... george rr's verstion of the story just embarasses the tv rendition

 

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I don’t think a two year old is remembering  shit.

[bschoolprof 6,254]

Ep 1 was fine and a nice setup. 

One thing this series really lacks is likable or intriguing characters.  I'm invested in this solely for the GOT universe.  There's no Jon Snow or Danny or Ned Stark or even a Jaime.  Hell, the Stark guy we saw for 5 minutes at the Wall was the most interesting character I remember.  I'd rather see a show about him.  

[MissingInAction 25,079]

53 minutes ago, Jerry Callo said:

I had to google to figure out which one she is - turns out she's the old one one that is a couple years younger than I am.  Damnit.

GILF porn is a thing, or so I am told.

[WBT 20,572]

28 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

GILF porn is a thing, or so I am told.

Would console Alicent about losing her grandson

[Jerry Callo 8,703]

4 minutes ago, WBT said:

Would console Alicent about losing her grandson

I think Ser Criston Cole has that covered.

[MissingInAction 25,079]

This is how we alienate anyone under 40 joining this site.

[Macklemore 2,872]

Am I remembering incorrectly, but didn’t Qyburn in GOT claim to invent the scorpion dragon killing machine? They’re present in this series.

Edited June 19 by Macklemore

[closetohumping 17,442]

19 hours ago, bschoolprof said:

Absolutely solid plan by Daemon.  I’m utterly shocked it didn’t go as expected. 

Spoiler

Yea.  That guy was really gonna fuck up aemond.   

 

[closetohumping 17,442]

19 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

Am I remembering incorrectly, but didn’t Qyburn in GOT claim to invent the scorpion dragon killing machine? They’re present in this series.

Yea but that fool also claimed to invent the Cobb salad.  
 

 

what we didn’t know his name was qyburn cobb?

[seven 1,367]

1 hour ago, Macklemore said:

Am I remembering incorrectly, but didn’t Qyburn in GOT claim to invent the scorpion dragon killing machine? They’re present in this series.

He read about them in a book

[Mileslong 4,727]

[Mileslong 4,727]

Filming now

[billfromlaketravis 11,483]

3 minutes ago, Mileslong said:

Filming now

While I’m excited to see it on film, the novellas are TV-Y7. HBO will have to add some spice. 
 

I think they can do it. Good success with child actors in TV-MA projects. Egg and the actor portraying him are both 9. 

[Jerry Callo 8,703]

20 minutes ago, Mileslong said:

Filming now

[Jerry Callo 8,703]

18 hours ago, Mileslong said:

Not absolutely nothing - he was able to bang his hot aunt, right.

[Haphap 741]

 

[closetohumping 17,442]

 

 

pics I took in nyc this week

[speed817 19,280]

 

 

[Buzzrock 14,920]

Penguin series looks dope

[bolverk 29,681]

Otto to Aegon and Criston.

 

 

[mdmost 43,002]

Ser Criston is such a massive cunt. The brother committing seppuku because he couldn’t live with what picking the wrong side has done was pretty tough. Ser Otto’s mouth finally caught up to him.

[Homercles 10,205]

On a side note, something that’s bugged me that I finally put my finger on:  this show has so many scenes in tight rooms, dim brown/yellow lighting, and narrow hallways that it doesn’t always suit ILM’s StageCraft system and I get flashbacks to playing Unreal Tournament.  
 
Obviously better than straight up endless green screen like Phantom Menace, but I feel like GoT had more shots on actual sets so while the backgrounds weren’t as complex they didn’t trigger Uncanny Valley-ish vibes.  

Works a lot better when outside or higher contrast primary colors like The Mandalorian.  

[billfromlaketravis 11,483]

Good episode. Well done. This is a brutal civil war and should be treated accordingly.

[WBT 20,572]

I was happy to see that little dog get the last laugh

[speed817 19,280]

So we getting a Cole sex scene every episode this season???

Also, I for sure thought that head was gonna fall off when the cart got stuck in the pothole lol

Edited June 24 by speed817

[bschoolprof 6,254]

I’m ambivalent about Otto the character, but the actor playing him is fantastic.

As expected, the dialogue in this show is excellent. My only complaint (beyond the few I discussed above) is pacing. There’s a lot of talking and stage setting without much in the way of plot advancement. I don’t mean action sequences or dragon bullshit, I mean moving the story forward. I guess it’s a consequence of GOT being one [censored] per season, while this is one [censored] for the whole show.

[Buzzrock 14,920]

The twin thing could have come off as contrived and an easy plot device to assassinate the queen, but they handled it well by only playing that card once and playing it quickly. Pace seems fine to me: there has been a significant plot event every episode. And production does seem maybe a little cheaper than GOT but it’s still miles better than anything Disney+ is doing.

Still #teamblack. I thought Otto was going to tell Aegon that his kingship was a lie, but he doesn’t know that does he?

[speed817 19,280]

5 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

The twin thing could have come off as contrived and an easy plot device to assassinate the queen, but they handled it well by only playing that card once and playing it quickly. Pace seems fine to me: there has been a significant plot event every episode. And production does seem maybe a little cheaper than GOT but it’s still miles better than anything Disney+ is doing.

Still #teamblack. I thought Otto was going to tell Aegon that his kingship was a lie, but he doesn’t know that does he?

[BrickTop 477]

I’m ambivalent about Otto the character, but the actor playing him is fantastic.

As expected, the dialogue in this show is excellent. My only complaint (beyond the few I discussed above) is pacing. There’s a lot of talking and stage setting without much in the way of plot advancement. I don’t mean action sequences or dragon bullshit, I mean moving the story forward. I guess it’s a consequence of GOT being one [censored] per season, while this is one [censored] for the whole show.

Rhys Ifans, been around forever, was in Harry Potter.

[CurlyDumps 4,471]

9 hours ago, Homercles said:

On a side note, something that’s bugged me that I finally put my finger on:  this show has so many scenes in tight rooms, dim brown/yellow lighting, and narrow hallways that it doesn’t always suit ILM’s StageCraft system and I get flashbacks to playing Unreal Tournament.  
 
Obviously better than straight up endless green screen like Phantom Menace, but I feel like GoT had more shots on actual sets so while the backgrounds weren’t as complex they didn’t trigger Uncanny Valley-ish vibes.  

Works a lot better when outside or higher contrast primary colors like The Mandalorian.  

Think I'm repeating myself but the scope and breadth of the show is much smalller than GoT.  The pilot episode of GoT probably travels to more diverse and interesting places than the whole of the show so far. S1 we barely left the Red Keep. The world has opened up a bit more but still a lot of talking inside rooms. It does seem like a deliberate cost saving decision since GoT was expensive as shit to make.

[Brian Fantana 6,689]

20 minutes ago, BrickTop said:

Rhys Ifans, been around forever, was in Harry Potter.

[Rex Kramer 1,338]

2 hours ago, bschoolprof said:

I’m ambivalent about Otto the character, but the actor playing him is fantastic.

As expected, the dialogue in this show is excellent. My only complaint (beyond the few I discussed above) is pacing. There’s a lot of talking and stage setting without much in the way of plot advancement. I don’t mean action sequences or dragon bullshit, I mean moving the story forward. I guess it’s a consequence of GOT being one [censored] per season, while this is one [censored] for the whole show.

He also banged Sienna Miller. So, a good career. But yes he is fantastic as Hightower. I don’t like the character but couldn’t stand Tywin either. Both are fantastic actors. 

[Nole-4-Life 804]

Spoiler

So I've only seen the first episode, but weren't they supposed to behead the eyepatch dude and not some baby?

 

[Rex Kramer 1,338]

20 minutes ago, Nole-4-Life said:

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So I've only seen the first episode, but weren't they supposed to behead the eyepatch dude and not some baby?

 

Yes. They were given no other instruction if he couldn’t be found. Daemon probably wouldn’t have been in favor of that, but he put forth 2 buffoons, so it’s on him.