House of the Dragon

bschoolprof · July 1

After pioneering the inclusion of gratuitous and needless female nudity in almost all of its shows, I guess HBO has decided to pivot to fully nude dudes now.

closetohumping · July 1

20 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Aemond, when exiting the brothel, looked like one of the Night King’s white walker henchmen. That is a sentence I will never repeat out loud. What a fucking nerd.

I that he was the bad motherfucker of the two

Js1 · July 1

19 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

After pioneering the inclusion of gratuitous and needless female nudity in almost all of its shows, I guess HBO has decided to pivot to fully nude dudes now.

utxmike05 · July 1

22 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Aemond, when exiting the brothel, looked like one of the Night King’s white walker henchmen. That is a sentence I will never repeat out loud. What a fucking nerd.

Lol I said the same thing to the wife.

huge · July 1

The scene with the ladies in the sept was very well done. Both queens are killing it.

closetohumping · July 1

1 minute ago, huge said:

The scene with the ladies in the sept was very well done. Both queens are killing it.

You think there was a moment where alicent was like “oh crap it really should be you”

huge · July 1

4 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

You think there was a moment where alicent was like “oh crap it really should be you”

The realization was there for both of them. And now everything is fucked and there will be no more half measures.

closetohumping · July 1

Just now, huge said:

The realization was there for both of them. And now everything is fucked and there will be no more half measures.

Right. This was is happening. It’s too late

bschoolprof · July 1

I couldn't decide what the most ill conceived plan of the episode was: a) Daemon's contemplated fixer upper flip of Harrenhal (sure, that seems doable . . . by himself I guess); b) Ryneera sneaking into KL to smoke the peace pipe around the prayer circle with Alicent (so 20 seconds after she walks away she is captured and killed and the show ends).

Rex Kramer · July 1

44 minutes ago, utxmike05 said:

Lol I said the same thing to the wife.

Someone got some pussy last night, amirite!

Ted Lange · July 1

The security at these castles seems to be lacking.

WBT · July 1

The horror movie vibe as Daemon came down the stairs at Harrenhal was pretty good

Ted Lange · July 1

One minor gripe, would've been fun to at least be a bit of the battle b/w the Bracken and Blackwood. Guess the budget wouldn't allow it.

JulesVerne · July 1

1 hour ago, bschoolprof said:

I couldn't decide what the most ill conceived plan of the episode was: a) Daemon's contemplated fixer upper flip of Harrenhal (sure, that seems doable . . . by himself I guess); b) Ryneera sneaking into KL to smoke the peace pipe around the prayer circle with Alicent (so 20 seconds after she walks away she is captured and killed and the show ends).

I thought it was a pretty savy move of Alicent and she was bringing in her brother to kill Ser Cristen en route and on the march (to bring back her dad as the hand, and show she's brutally strategic to kill her lover), but it looks like he is going to be wimpy and need Cristen's help looking at next week's trailer.

Buzzrock · July 1

The horror movie vibe as Daemon came down the stairs at Harrenhal was pretty good

The whole set / production of Harrenhal is incredible. I like how they are folding in the haunted aspect that has been alluded to in the past.

That whole last episode would have looked awesome on a big screen. The POV dragon rides were dope.

utxmike05 · July 1

2 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

One minor gripe, would've been fun to at least be a bit of the battle b/w the Bracken and Blackwood. Guess the budget wouldn't allow it.

One of my gripes also with this show. No combat battles shown....they did that last season with Daemon coming out of the cave with Crab guy's head or whatever. And just showing us the post battle shots. I miss GoT.

But they got all their budget on the Dragon scenes.

Edited July 1 by utxmike05

thunderlounge · July 1

32 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

That whole last episode would have looked awesome on a big screen.

It was.

speed817 · July 1

30 minutes ago, utxmike05 said:

One of my gripes also with this show. No combat battles shown....they did that last season with Daemon coming out of the cave with Crab guy's head or whatever. And just showing us the post battle shots. I miss GoT.

But they got all their budget on the ~~Dragon~~ brothel scenes.

FIFY

utxmike05 · July 1

22 minutes ago, speed817 said:

FIFY

Brothel and boobies still way under GoT standards.

billfromlaketravis · July 2

4 hours ago, speed817 said:

FIFY

Correct the amount of money they’ve spent on carefully concealing T&A is must be astronomical.

Prepuce of Doom · July 2

Is this a quality show worth watching, or just something to watch because it's on, because it's associated with a mostly outstanding prior project, etc.?

In other words, is it more like good GoT or bad GoT?

I can see that there's been 38 pages of content devoted to it, but that doesn't answer my question.

*please quote this post in any response - I don't plan on reading this thread otherwise, because if it's good, I won't want to read any spoilers...

The Dude · July 2

We could have saw 2 houses murder each other last ep but instead got the never ending story dragon ride and more talking about war

bschoolprof · July 2

5 minutes ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

Is this a quality show worth watching, or just something to watch because it's on, because it's associated with a mostly outstanding prior project, etc.?

In other words, is it more like good GoT or bad GoT?

I can see that there's been 38 pages of content devoted to it, but that doesn't answer my question.

*please quote this post in any response - I don't plan on reading this thread otherwise, because if it's good, I won't want to read any spoilers...

If you loved GOT, you should watch it. It has much, much slower pacing. . . lots of buildup to an eventual war we all know is coming. It's a much smaller story (1 book for the whole show). It's nowhere near as good as peak GOT (like seasons 1-3), but it's much better than the shit David and Dan put out at the end of GOT where they ran out of book material and were just throwing shit to the wall as hastily as they could.

BoomMF · July 2

18 minutes ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

Is this a quality show worth watching, or just something to watch because it's on, because it's associated with a mostly outstanding prior project, etc.?

In other words, is it more like good GoT or bad GoT?

I can see that there's been 38 pages of content devoted to it, but that doesn't answer my question.

*please quote this post in any response - I don't plan on reading this thread otherwise, because if it's good, I won't want to read any spoilers...

It's not early GoT, for sure. The world they are creating in House of the Dragon doesn't have that same authentic "lived in" feel. Some of the acting is GoT level (Rhys Ifans, Olivia Cooke, and Emma D'Arcy would have no problem hanging with the best of the scene chewers from GoT), some is CW (if you're a fan of Fabian Frankel's turn as Criston I feel sorry for your soul). The story has a lot of potential, but there is some ham-fisting of the narrative (episode 4 should begin with the death of Rhaenyra, any other outcome is plot armour and pandering, but what are you gonna do. This whole setup is bonkers.) that reminds me of the mid-story-telling of Season 6+ of GoT.

If you're a fan of GoT, though, the show offers some highs that can compete with anything in late-stage GoT, while only having to trudge through lows that are far and away higher than the worst of the same.

Edited July 2 by BoomMF

closetohumping · July 2

Those eggs eventually ended up with Danerys

closetohumping · July 2

2 hours ago, BoomMF said:

It's not early GoT, for sure. The world they are creating in House of the Dragon doesn't have that same authentic "lived in" feel. Some of the acting is GoT level (Rhys Ifans, Olivia Cooke, and Emma D'Arcy would have no problem hanging with the best of the scene chewers from GoT), some is CW (if you're a fan of Fabian Frankel's turn as Criston I feel sorry for your soul). The story has a lot of potential, but there is some ham-fisting of the narrative (episode 4 should begin with the death of Rhaenyra, any other outcome is plot armour and pandering, but what are you gonna do. This whole setup is bonkers.) that reminds me of the mid-story-telling of Season 6+ of GoT.

If you're a fan of GoT, though, the show offers some highs that can compete with anything in late-stage GoT, while only having to trudge through lows that are far and away higher than the worst of the same.

Is this the book thread?

Mez2 · July 2

53 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Those eggs eventually ended up with Danerys

Not sure if spoiler but The Ringer does recaps and full deep dives after each episode, also multiple podcasts on HoD, along with other prestige TV show...anyway here is what they say:

Are Those Daenerys’s Eggs?

This week, Rhaenyra sends Rhaena and Joffrey to the Vale. She also sends four dragon eggs:

Look familiar?

It’s difficult to see, but Daenerys’s three eggs are red, yellow, and green, as are three of the eggs Rhaenyra is sending out. This can’t be a coincidence. And for eagle-eyed viewers, this is a very fun and exciting Easter, uh, egg. But for book readers, it’s bittersweet at best. That’s because readers already have a great, heavily hinted at origin story for Daenerys’s eggs.

Remember the princess I mentioned earlier, Rhaena Targaryen? The one who took up residence in Harrenhal toward the end of her life? Before she sequestered herself in that damp old fortress, she lived for a time at Fair Isle, where she met a noble lady named Elissa Farman. Rhaena and Elissa grew close, and Elissa soon joined Rhaena’s court at Dragonstone.

But once on Dragonstone, Elissa became bored. The Farmans had “sailed the western seas since the Dawn Age,” per Fire & Blood, and Elissa had the heart of an adventurer. From the book:

As a child, it was said that she spent more time at sea than upon the land. Her father’s crews used to laugh to see her climbing the rigging like a monkey. She sailed her own boat around Fair Isle at the age of four-and-ten, and by the time she was twenty she had voyaged as far north as Bear Island and as far south as the Arbor. Oftimes, to the horror of her lord father and lady mother, she spoke of her desire to take a ship beyond the western horizon to learn what strange and wondrous lands might lie on the far side of the Sunset Sea.

Elissa pleaded with Rhaena to raise gold so that she could sail the Sunset Sea—the sea to the west of Westeros. But Rhaena refused her. She couldn’t bear to lose her, uh, good friend.

Finally, Elissa left. She went to Driftmark, then caught a ship to Pentos, and from there made her way to Braavos, which houses some of the finest shipwrights in the world. A fortnight after her departure, it was discovered that three dragon eggs were missing from Dragonstone. Ser Merrell Bullock reasoned that Elissa must have made off with them and sold them in Essos to fund her adventure. King Jaehaerys was furious—and concerned that the eggs could hatch and a new dragonlord could rise against the Targaryens. But Grand Maester Benifer reassured him: “They may not hatch,” Benifer said. “Not away from Dragonstone. The heat … it is known, some dragon eggs simply turn to stone.”

“Then some spicemonger in Pentos will find himself possessed of three very costly stones,” Jaehaerys replied.

The crown never caught up with Elissa or those eggs. But this story was later confirmed by King’s Landing’s network of spies. Elissa had taken on the name Alys Westhill, sold the three dragon eggs to the Sealord of Braavos, and used the funds to build the ship Sun Chaser and sail it west into the Sunset Sea, where she vanished for good … except for many years later, when Corlys Velaryon—yes, our Corlys, the Sea Snake—caught a glimpse of an old, weathered ship in Asshai-by-the-Shadow that he swore forever after could only have been Sun Chaser.

Nearly 250 years after Elissa arrived in Essos with those eggs, the wealthy Pentosi magister Illyrio Mopatis gifted three dragon eggs to one Daenerys Targaryen on her wedding day. It was said that they’d long ago turned to stone.

Elissa Farman’s story endures regardless, but it sure hits harder if those eggs we see in this episode became Daenerys’s. It would be frustrating if the show undid that bit of lore.

Hozz · July 2

I thought the scene with Daemon and the castellan was great. Definitely a better season than the first.

The casting could use some work though. Too many of the knights look like skinny nerds. I don't recall GoT being this way.

Ted Lange · July 2

Im enjoying the show, but it is lacking a character like the Hound, Tyrion, or Bron, someone who was always good for a laugh.

Scary Stranger · July 2

48 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Im enjoying the show, but it is lacking a character like the Hound, Tyrion, or Bron, someone who was always good for a laugh.

I don't actually like any character in the show.

bschoolprof · July 2

36 minutes ago, Scary Stranger said:

I don't actually like any character in the show.

That's one of my big problems. I remember when the Stark ancestor was onscreen a few episodes back, I was like "fuck yeah, a good guy."

But nope, back to KL and dragonstone to dwell on rotten people.

F250 · July 2

2 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

Im enjoying the show, but it is lacking a character like the Hound, Tyrion, or Bron, someone who was always good for a laugh.

Same. Season 2 has improved but the show lacks characters with any charisma.

NAVY · July 2

On 7/1/2024 at 10:09 AM, bschoolprof said:

After pioneering the inclusion of gratuitous and needless female nudity in almost all of its shows, I guess HBO has decided to pivot to fully nude dudes now.

HBO is also pivoting out of my subscriptions.

Insane how far and fast they cratered

billfromlaketravis · July 2

2 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

Im enjoying the show, but it is lacking a character like the Hound, Tyrion, or Bron, someone who was always good for a laugh.

Not to go full on bookfag, but I wouldn’t hold your breath. Cregan Stark, the Sea Snake, and Daemon were my favorites in the book. Not because of their humor, but because of their bad ass battle prowess. Mushroom, one of the narrators, is the only funny aspect of the book.

wild_turkey · July 3

Put me in the camp that’s enjoying it but wishing it had better characters. If this is what the source material provided, then I hope they deviate from that or else the series will have limited potential.

Also, lol @ Ser Criston getting a haircut between the 10 minute mark and 25 minute mark. “I have this super important mission but I need to visit the barber first.”

BoomMF · July 3

5 hours ago, wild_turkey said:

Also, lol @ Ser Criston getting a haircut between the 10 minute mark and 25 minute mark. “I have this super important mission but I need to visit the barber first.”

Jokes on him. Still spotted because from 2 miles in the air, who needs haircut to positively id someone?

WBT · July 3

That was the helmet cut. Like how we used to go get it cut short before the start of 2-a-days.

mr. sunshine · July 3

2 hours ago, WBT said:

That was the helmet cut. Like how we used to go get it cut short before the start of 2-a-days.

aka the chili bowl haircut

Mdhorn · July 4

Been sitting this series out up to now, but, now that it's several seasons in--is it worth the emotional dive?

Ted Lange · July 4

First ~5 episodes are kinda slow as they introduce the characters it gets much better after that.

Pimphand · July 4

Haven't watched season 2 yet but holy fuck the pacing in season 1 was absolute fucking dogshyte. Other than that its OK compared to seasons 7 & 8 GoT but Seasons 1-3 ain't coming back.

Hozz · July 4

It's inevitable to compare it to GoT. It's no where near as good as the best of GoT but, also, so far at least, no where near as bad as the legacy annihilating worst of GoT.

I really did not enjoy the first season. My expectations were high because of its pedigree, despite the dogshit S8 of GoT. S1 was slow, the character names are foreign to the American ear and too similar to each other, the casting is bad and every character has like 2 actors because of the time frame the show encompasses. It's like it was designed to confuse all but the faggiest of book fags.

S2 is a lot better so far. It's by no means great but it's not something to laugh at like some of the more recent fantasy adaptations (Rings, WoT, Witcher, etc.).

Yev Kassem · July 4

Now that we’re actually getting to war, action is about to pick up in a huge way. This upcoming episode is going to be fucking wild and I can’t wait to see how they bring Battle of Rook’s Nest to life.

Derka · July 4

On 6/30/2024 at 10:32 PM, CooterBrown said:

Was that the first visible BJ on cable TV? Even if it was a stunt dick, I’m here for europeanization of our TV morals.

mayor royce in the wire.

closetohumping · July 4

58 minutes ago, Hozz said:

It's inevitable to compare it to GoT. It's no where near as good as the best of GoT but, also, so far at least, no where near as bad as the legacy annihilating worst of GoT.

I really did not enjoy the first season. My expectations were high because of its pedigree, despite the dogshit S8 of GoT. S1 was slow, the character names are foreign to the American ear and too similar to each other, the casting is bad and every character has like 2 actors because of the time frame the show encompasses. It's like it was designed to confuse all but the faggiest of book fags.

S2 is a lot better so far. It's by no means great but it's not something to laugh at like some of the more recent fantasy adaptations (Rings, WoT, Witcher, etc.).

Steve and Tracy Targaryen rider of dragons

jim Targaryen, first of his name, lord of the andels

Hozz · July 4

I guess that is why Luke got eaten, name too normal.

Hank_Hill · July 6

On 7/2/2024 at 12:15 PM, Scary Stranger said:

I don't actually like any character in the show.

Kinda seems like they’re all dying soon so probably for the best

Buzzrock · July 8

Seems Rhaenys has a type:

seamen

speed817 · July 8

HotD was 🔥🔥🔥 tonight!!!!

speed817 · July 8

34 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Seems Rhaenys has a type:

seamen

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