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Just now, Degenerate Gardner said:

I’ve come to wonder if it’s a ‘maybe a coordinator’ situation, though obviously he wouldn’t accept demotion. Sark’s highest and best in-game use may be OC. 

Sure but he makes an excellent CEO too.  His press conferences are badass, he kicks ass at player identification, player development, managing the big money dipshit donors, and literally everything else.

It's his achilles heel that he doesn't realize he's over his skis trying to be elite at both during the game.

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3 minutes ago, skipmcgee said:

Well Texas is the only common team across the last two CFPs, so who are you comparing him to?  The now retired Saban? Maybe Kirby?

Ohio State, Penn St, Oregon, Notre Dame, and Georgia.  Don’t be dense.

And seriously, get the fuck out of here with the well at least we are not in Herman era.  Texas is at another level now and needs play at that level with the talent the team has.   ASU had no business taking Texas to OT.  

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You can say what you want, but to keep throwing the deep passes was dumb.

ASU followed the Georgia example on defense, they played to stop the run and dared Texas to throw.

The short passes that were open were ignored, to throw it deep. The last interception by ASU, running back was wide open over the middle/

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23 minutes ago, ztejas said:

@Wilcox Cummingtonite you're a shitty fucking fan and you should delete your account here or at least quit posting

He isn't under Texas.

He needs consistent play at QB. 

 

22 minutes ago, RabidM said:

I think the offense will look better with a different QB next season.  Ewers really limits what he likes to do. 

Both posts are correct, and everyone will benefit from the changes when it comes to fruition.  I'll add Baxter going down did not help at all.  Speaking for myself, it really sucks to win and be so frustrated with the offensive production.  Especially when you know what we should be capable of.  Offense was lights out against Clemson; Not so much against ASU. Let not talk about Auburn, geez he's making it hard for me to continue to stand with him.  Don't show me the labor, just show me the win baby.  

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9 minutes ago, skipmcgee said:

Ryan Day, James Franklin, and Marcus Freeman have all have long lists of embarrassing losses. So does Dan Lanning, although that might just be a Deboer issue

He's getting bent over, no-lube style as we speak by Ryan Day, lulz. He loses every big game he's in 

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1 hour ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

Tom Herman is a better gameday coach than Sark. He’s a fantastic program builder but a total dumbfuck on the sidelines.

Turtle Tom was a better Gameday coach?  Is that you're argument? JFC you must be 4.

We are a flawed, inconsistent team. Maybe that's a surprise to you. It's not to anyone who has been watching this team since it beat Michigan.

I swear my 9 year old handles football games better than you. 

Your New Years resolution should be to stop being such a little bitch in 2025.  

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1 hour ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

Tom Herman is a better gameday coach than Sark. He’s a fantastic program builder but a total dumbfuck on the sidelines.

Every fan of every team thinks their coach isn’t a good gameday coach outside of maybe Kirby. Lanning is too aggressive, Day turtles, the list goes on and on.

I enjoyed Herman’s gameday coaching when he green lighted a zero blitz on 3rd and 17 against LSU. Or when he would kick 19 yard field goals. Or when we allowed Tech, Kansas, Tulsa (!), Kansas State and Baylor to erase sizable first half leads in 2018. Or when he came out in the 2019 and 2020 OU games running bubble screens and HB swing passes.

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8 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Turtle Tom was a better Gameday coach?  Is that you're argument? JFC you must be 4.

We are a flawed, inconsistent team. Maybe that's a surprise to you. It's not to anyone who has been watching this team since it beat Michigan.

I swear my 9 year old handles football games better than you. 

Your New Years resolution should be to stop being such a little bitch in 2025.  

Yeah those two epic battles vs Maryland cemented Turtle Tom's game day credentials as a HOF'er.

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Eh, he's really starting to show some glaring issues which shouldn't be a problem for a coach of his supposed caliber.  

Quinn has been off basically all year.  Sark has done fuck all to deal with that.

The O-line has had major problems all year.  Sark has done fuck all to deal with that.

Bert clearly was ass last year and he's even worse this year.  Sark has done fuck all to deal with that.

These are season long problems that haven't been addressed whatsoever.  Throw in some legit pants on head retarded play calling in just about every game, too.  You can't just hand wave this shit off and say, "But two CFP appearances in a row, bro!"  Obviously any talk of replacing him is asinine, but he needs to be encouraged to get some help.  If you don't have the time/energy/whatever to solve problems with the team, find someone who does.  I think we have enough money for that.

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1 hour ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Hes a top 5 program builder, a fringe top 10-15 coach, and may or may not be The Guy. But damm this season has maybe been his worst, considering the talent at his disposal, since his time at Texas

We have a second consecutive top 4 finish and tied the school record for wins in a season.

If that is his worst season, then sign me up for more. Is there any evidence the amount of talent is going down?

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He needs to address the entire offense this offseason. It’s simply not very good in its current form. 

We are poor at run blocking schemes. Our WRs are mostly poor at blocking. Ewers can put up a great stat line like today yet the offense goes MIA for 40 straight minutes. 

The play calling is suspect at best, even though it’s not known if some of the inane decisions are design or Ewers panicking. But throwing 3 times when we can run click and snapping with 28 secs on the play clock is an indictment in failure. But he wastes entire series with brain dead calls to theoretically “set up” future plays.

Maybe part of the issue is Ewers can’t move and has zero pocket presence, which a motion offense relies on to be consistent. We’ll know with Manning if that’s the case, unless Manning is a turnover prone gunslinger ala Aaron fucking Rodgers. 

But shit needs fixed. 

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1 hour ago, NBHorn7 said:

You can say what you want, but to keep throwing the deep passes was dumb.

I might counter that with we want to remain multi-dimensional.

And we had a nice deep pass vs. Clemson and another one early in the game tonight.

 

Kinda like faking that you'll always go with X RB on 4th and 1 but then you suddenly go with X receiver instead.

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Do I think we have some major issues still? Yes.
Do I think Ohio State will be an issue? Yes.
Are we in the national semifinals? Yes.

That says something. I questioned a lot of shit today and all year, but dammit, here we are. Maybe because our talent is top notch. Or maybe it’s because we are a good team. I don’t know, but I’m glad we are still dancing.

Can’t wait for the Cotton Bowl!

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Sark has room to grow. Not sure how much a guy his age can, but you can see where he needs to improve. It's not the play design, it's the calls and not seeing the forest for the trees.... We can wish and hope that he gives play calling up, but some coaches just can't. A visit to the Chiefs or Rams in the offseason would be helpful, to understand how some guys who are known precisely for their play calling are able to designate that task and the team doesn't lose the signature one bit of that coach/offensive guru

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5 minutes ago, naija said:

Sark has room to grow. Not sure how much a guy his age can, but you can see where he needs to improve. It's not the play design, it's the calls and not seeing the forest for the trees.... We can wish and hope that he gives play calling up, but some coaches just can't. A visit to the Chiefs or Rams in the offseason would be helpful, to understand how some guys who are known precisely for their play calling are able to designate that task and the team doesn't lose the signature one bit of that coach/offensive guru

Yes he can design plays with the best of them.   But he lacks rhythm, situational awareness and maybe all this movement is too complex for these kids

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Sark has room to grow. Not sure how much a guy his age can, but you can see where he needs to improve. It's not the play design, it's the calls and not seeing the forest for the trees.... We can wish and hope that he gives play calling up, but some coaches just can't. A visit to the Chiefs or Rams in the offseason would be helpful, to understand how some guys who are known precisely for their play calling are able to designate that task and the team doesn't lose the signature one bit of that coach/offensive guru

Unfortunately, I think he’s just too stubborn and set in his ways to grow much more unless there is help from Saban or CDC. He is who he is.
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You guys are crazy if you don’t think just about every other team would love to have Sark as their HC/playcaller. 
 

I hate that this game was even close, but the team made multiple losing plays today and we still did enough to win. That’s on Sark as much as it is on the players. 
 

He managed Quinn well enough to get the job done despite not having a rushing attack today. We only ran 60 plays to their 98. Leavitt was a magician back there and Skattebo went bananas. The refs decided holding didn’t exist and their OL became super effective because of it. 
 

We won, despite most indicators leaning to a loss. This game was a hell of a job by Sark. 

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1 minute ago, Atticus said:

You guys are crazy if you don’t think just about every other team would love to have Sark as their HC/playcaller. 

Well, it's weird because he's only calling to just barely beat anyone.

And we've been lucky that the opponents haven't gotten lucky.

So, what's he holding back the good stuff for?!

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1 hour ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Hes a top 5 program builder, a fringe top 10-15 coach, and may or may not be The Guy. But damm this season has maybe been his worst, considering the talent at his disposal, since his time at Texas

Are you fucking drunk?  "Fringe top 10-15 coach"?

Dude is top 3 in college football.  You're a blithering idiot.

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15 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Yes he can design plays with the best of them.   But he lacks rhythm, situational awareness and maybe all this movement is too complex for these kids

is there something about the Texas "kids" that makes them dumber than the Alabama "kids" that executed his offense quite well?

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Are you fucking drunk?  "Fringe top 10-15 coach"?

Dude is top 3 in college football.  You're a blithering idiot.

Top 3?  So besides Sark and "the Elk", who's the third? 

and by the way, after watching that shit for 4 hours, there's nothing wrong with being drunk.  

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Sark is clearly a top 5 coach.  We've made it to the final 4 two years in a row. Who the fuck else would you even think about trading him for?  

He's elite at program building and play design.  He's mid at play calling and game management.  And at starting the right QB.  It is what it is.  

But, oh well, it could be far, far worse.  See 2010 - 2020.

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4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Kirby, Sark, ???

Who are you putting above him?

no, he's not a clear Top 3. He is with a pack of other guys that clearly haven't separated themselves. For one you can't put him above Dabo, who has 2 NCs to his name. His issues are his stubbornness in a different way than Sark.

 

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Just now, naija said:

no, he's not a clear Top 3. He is with a pack of other guys that clearly haven't separated themselves. For one you can't put him above Dabo, who has 2 NCs to his name. His issues are his stubbornness in a different way than Sark.

We literally just skullfucked Clemson.  I'll take Sark in this world, one in which Dark Age Dabo can't be bothered to work NIL and the portal.

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

We literally just skullfucked Clemson.  I'll take Sark in this world, one in which Dark Age Dabo can't be bothered to work NIL and the portal.

well, if you just going off head to heads, then you must surely have DeBoer ahead of Sark. and Dan Lanning for that matter.

I won't stay on this argument, but the man has his faults. Discussing them is not an insult to him. Clear Top 3 is proven Championship winner territory. Especially at a place like Texas. He can get there. We are all hoping he does.

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Just now, naija said:

well, if you just going off head to heads, then you must surely have DeBoer ahead of Sark. and Dan Lanning for that matter.

I won't stay on this argument, but the man has his faults. Discussing them is not an insult to him. Clear Top 3 is proven Championship winner territory. Especially at a place like Texas. He can get there. We are all hoping he does.

You would take Clemson’s program over ours right now? Of course you wouldn’t. 

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1 minute ago, Dark Horse said:

You would take Clemson’s program over ours right now? Of course you wouldn’t. 

no I wouldn't, doesn't mean that Sark is a better coach than Swinney. Swinney has 2 NCs against what everyone will agree was the best coach of all time, in the era, when people would say Bama was able to just stack talent more than most.  He finds himself in an era that doesn't suit his personal sensibilities well, but as far as coaching a football team, how do you downplay his accomplishments? relate this to basketball, it would be like discrediting Jay Wright as a pure coach as well, because he too can't/won't navigate the NIL landscape.

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This subjective debate feels like it has a clear "right answer". You guys just need to keep talking past each other for a few a more pages and I am sure someone will admit that they are wrong.

Regardless of where you want to rank him, his is still very much an unfinished product. He needs to demonstrate the capacity to self scout and be vocally self critical to keep evolving and ultimately improving as a head coach. He still has plenty of flaws and I really hope he recognizes those and adjusts accordingly. Continuous improvement even during periods of prosperity is a clear hallmark of the elite in most industries.

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