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Just now, nbmishoid said:

Not recruiting means you don’t get your guys.  I don’t see Sark chasing some other person’s idea of career.  Money, independence, respect, etc  I see personal fulfillment much more likely in the college game.

13 win Steve.

He's already had a heart procedure in his life, he salvaged his marriage, and there could be a ton of other factors why he could potentially move on to the NFL. Being a college coach right now seems so much more of a grueling stress induced job than being a NFL coach.

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

He's already had a heart procedure in his life, he salvaged his marriage, and there could be a ton of other factors why he could potentially move on to the NFL. Being a college coach right now seems so much more of a grueling stress induced job than being a NFL coach.

Could be.  My view is the money drives both situations to as much work as is humanly possible.  Hell, I did that for a lot less.  

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14 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Being a college coach right now seems so much more of a grueling stress induced job than being a NFL coach.

I'm not sure that's true at all.  I bet NFL coaches like Andy Reid work every bit as much as Sark does.  It's just a more focused effort.  Some guys appreciate that, some guys don't.

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'm not sure that's true at all.  I bet NFL coaches like Andy Reid work every bit as much as Sark does.  It's just a more focused effort.  Some guys appreciate that, some guys don't.

NFL coach isn't a year round gig though...they take long breaks in the offseason. The way college is setup now there is no offseason. It's about to get worse starting 2026 because in home visits with recruits will be able to take place in January(immediately after season).

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I guess never say never, but I'd be floored if Sark went to the NFL after this year. One, it would send shockwaves through the sport. Sark is probably the most well positioned HC in all of CFB right now. NIL, recruiting, portal, coaching staff, and Arch Manning for the next 2+ years...nobody has it better. He has a decided advantage over most of the competition. 

From the NFL side, play calling and game management are probably Sark's biggest weaknesses so far at Texas. The things he's proven to be best at for Texas don't really translate to NFL head coaching. Way more parity in pro football that should take the shine off Sark for most GMs IMO. 

Then from Sark's point of view, he got the job as OC for the Falcons after a short stint as an Alabama analyst. He was promptly fired 2 years later when Dan Quinn decided to clean house with coaching staff. Sark then immediately returned to Alabama as OC. The NFL can chew you up and spit you out. Why risk an amazing situation for a tenuous one?

Doubtful he would get more money in the NFL. He'd most likely take over a crappy team with a not ideal QB situation. I get that there is WAY more bullshit and travel involved in CFB, but who's to say he doesn't like it? He's clearly very good at it. 

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Yeah, in college he's the de facto GM along with being the head coach and play caller.  In the pros he might get some say in personnel decisions, but hardly autonomy.

Some guys actually like recruiting.  Mack did.  Say what you will about his ego and inability to pull the ripcord, but he was an elite people person, and Sark has a lot of those qualities, too.  It doesn't mean he loves that part of the job, I have no idea, but he clearly excels at it.

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, in college he's the de facto GM along with being the head coach and play caller.  In the pros he might get some say in personnel decisions, but hardly autonomy.

Some guys actually like recruiting.  Mack did.  Say what you will about his ego and inability to pull the ripcord, but he was an elite people person, and Sark has a lot of those qualities, too.  It doesn't mean he loves that part of the job, I have no idea, but he clearly excels at it.

Yeah I agree...I was just giving reasons he might look to NFL. 

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I don't think he'd leave after this season even with a title because I don't think he'd do that to the Mannings. If you want to coach in the NFL probably best to not screw over one of the most influential and high profile families in the sport. 

Honestly, in the NFL he's just another coach. His greatest asset in college isn't his play calling. It's his program building abilities. He wouldn't have that in the NFL. You're at the mercy of how good your GM is, and how quickly you can get a game changing, play making, franchise level QB. Your culture in the NFL is as good as your QB is. Bad QB? Going to be bad culture no matter what you do. Coaching for Jerry Jones? Going to be bad culture no matter what, doesn't matter how good your QB happens to be. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

I don't think he'd leave after this season even with a title because I don't think he'd do that to the Mannings. If you want to coach in the NFL probably best to not screw over one of the most influential and high profile families in the sport. 

Honestly, in the NFL he's just another coach. His greatest asset in college isn't his play calling. It's his program building abilities. He wouldn't have that in the NFL. You're at the mercy of how good your GM is, and how quickly you can get a game changing, play making, franchise level QB. Your culture in the NFL is as good as your QB is. Bad QB? Going to be bad culture no matter what you do. Coaching for Jerry Jones? Going to be bad culture no matter what, doesn't matter how good your QB happens to be. 

 

Yep.  They are just two different animals.  Recruiting and managing NIL mean absolutely nothing in the NFL, and managing a salary cap which would be the closest thing to it won't even be his job.  His gameday coaching is probably the worst of his abilities in terms of what makes him a great coach.

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i know you are kidding, but if he brings us to the promised land, i'm not sure we will let him leave. the rich boosters watched us wander in the desert for close to 20 years, they are not going to let it happen again.  if sark wins multiple NC, he will become the wealthiest football coach of all time 

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I wish Sark would find a young offensive minded guy to teach his ways to, working that person up to be the play caller.  Sark helps prepare the game plan, and possibly some adjustments in game, but by and large is left to game and time management.  Then if and when Sark moves on, this person could step up.  I know there's a term for it, but not going to use it.

 

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46 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

I wish Sark would find a young offensive minded guy to teach his ways to, working that person up to be the play caller.  

 

He already has. That’s Milwee. He just looks old.

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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Bro, the hair.  Just know when to give up. 

Yeah man. It's over. Take your cue(see what I did there?) from black folks and just shave it. Especially now that we are in the beard era.

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All the complaining and short memories you would think some of you assholes miss the Herman and "Longfinger" days...what the hell is wrong with you?

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34 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Yeah man. It's over. Take your cue(see what I did there?) from black folks and just shave it. Especially now that we are in the beard era.

Or just never be photographed not wearing a hat

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59 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

I like how small the "Finalist" text is in the graphic lol

Really strange that every other finalist is a "Bear Bryant" conference coach of the year except for Sark.  Honor to be included I guess but he can't win over Beamer who won the Bear Bryant SEC coach of the year right??

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I have no idea what the real situation is with Sark. I've been trying to get a hint but no one is talking. The coaches salaries in the NFL can be significantly higher than what he makes at Texas right now.  That has to be a factor. But there is also the asswhip of recruiting. I know a guy on staff and he said college recruiting is an absolute beatdown. He said it is literally 7/24/365 and very intense. 

edit: also would not be surprised to see Urban Meyor Texas talks, round II, with a much better chance of going through the second time because of the decline of the bag game and Urban's epic failure in the NFL. Not saying it's a good idea, only that some folks with money would be interested in that scenario.

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Sark isn’t going anywhere. The microscope of the NFL is greater than the one at Texas. The personalities are bigger and your leverage is much smaller. 
 

Consider having a guy like Johntay Cook on your team, but you can’t just let him go bc he’s detrimental to your team’s culture. Worse, the team has invested heavy resources into getting him, so you have to make it work and favor playing him over the more effective UDFA. 
 

But mostly, he’s very unlikely to leave before Arch and maybe his son move on. also unlikely to leave before winning a national championship. 

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Not just back to back appearances.  Will be back to back top 4 finishes, which we haven't done since 2008 and 2009 (finished 4th and 2nd). 

4 weeks at #1.  Hadn't happened since 2008, obviously, which was only 3 weeks at #1. 

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Anyone thinking that moving to the NFL would represent a reduction in work load isn't paying attention.

Its different work, but you are still working 80+ hours a week as Spurrier famously learned.

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14 minutes ago, huge said:

Anyone thinking that moving to the NFL would represent a reduction in work load isn't paying attention.

Its different work, but you are still working 80+ hours a week as Spurrier famously learned.

I remember Jerry Gray going into the office at 4 AM and coming home at 10-11 PM.  Can't remember if it was NFL Films or HBO.

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30 minutes ago, huge said:

Anyone thinking that moving to the NFL would represent a reduction in work load isn't paying attention.

Its different work, but you are still working 80+ hours a week as Spurrier famously learned.

I don't buy the Sark to the NFL rumors. He's been better as a program manager/talent acquirer at Texas than he has as an offensive coach. He gets to have a talent advantage against 90% of his schedule every single year at Texas. That's gone in the NFL, and his teams haven't shown the discipline/execution to consistently succeed without that talent advantage.

But being a college coach is absolutely more taxing than the NFL right now.  During the season both are similarly busy, but NFL guys get more of an offseason. College coaches shift right to recruiting. There's also a difference between working 80 hours per week strictly on football versus having to Facetime and text 15 year-olds all the time or keep your whole roster happy because they are always free agents and can transfer at any moment.

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33 minutes ago, huge said:

Anyone thinking that moving to the NFL would represent a reduction in work load isn't paying attention.

Its different work, but you are still working 80+ hours a week as Spurrier famously learned.

Have to disagree. The is no way the NFL isn't a reduction of work load over the course of a year.

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3 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

The coaches salaries in the NFL can be significantly higher than what he makes at Texas right now.

They can be, but for the most part those guys have all had success in the league.  Sark's current salary would be ~ 8th in the NFL right now, and he may get another raise out of CDC in a few weeks.

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Craig Way on the ticket this morning said he doesn’t know if Saek has interest in the nfl but that he does love college football so much he watches it in his spare time. 

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Posted
23 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Sark is too smart to go to that cesspool 

Yeah, if he were dumb enough to take it, Skeletor would be doing us a favor in the long run.

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Let’s just hope he hires an OC after. So once he’s script is over he can give off the play calling duties to the OC and maybe we can score in the 3rd qtr 

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