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Loved it too.  A few things. Gambling/Murder- His dad's murder had nothing at all to do with gambling/mafia etc.  It was just random bad luck.  The killers are in prison.  They would have cut a d

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The thing about Isiah that always comes across is how disingenuous he is. That Bird thing... oh, that was sarcasm. The no hand shaking thing... oh, the Celtics did that to them. Bullshit. Nobody cares

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This series has led me down a rabbit hole on what made MJ MJ. Here's a good vid of his trainer detailing their workouts.

Interesting story starting @ 8:16 about starting the "Breakfast Club" which became a morning workout with MJ, Ron Harper and Pip. The trainer goes on to say that Ron and Pip didn't miss workouts because MJ would give them shit about it. Was he an asshole, sure? Was he leading by example and holding others accountable. Damn right. 

The more details that come out about MJ, the more amazed I am about his absolute dedication to his craft. Dude was pyscho about putting in the work.

 

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I think if you wanna call MJ an asshole above and beyond the call of duty, you could try to compare him to Tom Brady maybe. What's the line on his training/ practice persona ?

What about other GOAT candidates ?

Gretzky

Trout

Neither one of them had the 'asshole' tag on their clubhouse personna.  the Astros are still Altuve's team and he clowns with the best of em; although Lance McCullers found out not to fuck around the wrong way and show up a teammate.

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aren't those Air Jordans in your Avatar?  

(honestly, I can't tell...I've never been a shoe guy) 

LOL.   They were a gift from a young female worker where I was a QC at, always teased about her shoes and she bought me a pair of my own.  That may have been the only time I wore them was for the pic. 

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Gretzky

Trout

Neither one of them had the 'asshole' tag on their clubhouse personna.  the Astros are still Altuve's team and he clowns with the best of em; although Lance McCullers found out not to fuck around the wrong way and show up a teammate.

Gretzky is a GOAT probably.

Trout a GOAT ? hardly.  Did Gretzky have the championships like MJ ?  Can't say I follow hockey.

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Gretzky is a GOAT probably.

Trout a GOAT ? hardly.  Did Gretzky have the championships like MJ ?  Can't say I follow hockey.

Gretzky is even less debatable than Jordan as to his position as GOAT in his sport.  Google alltime hockey stats...

4 Stanley Cups and the Conn Smythe in all 4 of them.

 

He won the Hart Trophy(MVP) from 1980 to 87 and again in 89.

Here's the records Gratzky holds:

Regular season records (40)[edit]

  1. Most goals: 894 in 1,487 games[2]
  2. Most goals, including playoffs: 1,016 in 1,487 regular season games including 122 playoff goals[2]
  3. Most goals, one season: 92 in 1981–82, 80-game schedule[3]
  4. Most goals, one season, including playoffs: 100 in 1983–84, 87 goals in 74 regular season games and 13 goals in 19 playoff games
  5. Most goals, 50 games from start of season: 61 in 1981–82 (7 October 1981 to 22 January 1982, 80-game schedule) and 1983–84 (5 October 1983 to 25 January 1984), 80-game schedule
  6. Most goals, one period: 4 (Tied with 10 other players) 18 February 1981
  7. Most assists: 1,963[4]
  8. Most assists, including playoffs: 2,223
  9. Most assists, one season: 163 in 1985–86, 80-game schedule[5]
  10. Most assists, one season, including playoffs: 174 in 1985–86, 163 assists in 80 regular season games and 11 assists in 10 playoff games
  11. Most assists, one game: 7 (tied with Billy "The Kid" Taylor) on three occasions—16 February 1980; 11 December 1985; 15 February 1986[6]
  12. Most assists, one road game: 7 (tied with Billy "The Kid" Taylor) 11 December 1985
  13. Most points: 2,857 in 1,487 games (894 goals, 1,963 assists)[7]
  14. Most points, including playoffs: 3,239 in 1,487 regular season and 208 playoff games. (1016 goals, 2223 assists)
  15. Most points, one season: 215 in 1985–86, 80-game schedule (52 goals, 163 assists)[8]
  16. Most points, one season, including playoffs: 255 in 1984–85; 208 points in 80 regular season games and 47 points in 18 playoff games
  17. Most overtime assists, career: 15
  18. Most goals by a centre, career: 894[9]
  19. Most goals by a centre, one season: 92 in 1981–82, 80-game schedule[10]
  20. Most assists by a centre, career: 1,963[11]
  21. Most assists by a centre, one season: 163 in 1985–86, 80-game schedule[12]
  22. Most points by a centre, career: 2,857[13]
  23. Most points by a centre, one season: 215 in 1985–86, 80-game schedule[14]
  24. Most assists in one game by a player in his first season: 7 on 15 February 1980
  25. Highest goals-per-game average, one season: 1.18 in 1983–84, 87 goals in 74 games
  26. Highest assists-per-game average, career (300 min.): 1.321 -- 1,963 assists in 1,487 games
  27. Highest assists-per-game average, one season: 2.04 in 1985–86, 163 assists in 80 games
  28. Highest points-per-game average, one season (among players with 50-or-more points): 2.77 in 1983–84, 205 points in 74 games[15]
  29. Most 40-or-more goal seasons: 12 in 20 seasons
  30. Most consecutive 40-or-more goal seasons: 12 from 1979–80 to 1990–91
  31. Most 50-or-more goal seasons: 9 (tied with Mike Bossy)
  32. Most 60-or-more goal seasons: 5 (tied with Mike Bossy)
  33. Most consecutive 60-or-more goals seasons: 4 from 1981–82 to 1984–85
  34. Most 100-or-more point seasons: 15
  35. Most consecutive 100-or-more point seasons: 13 from 1979–80 to 1991–92
  36. Most three-or-more goal games, career: 50 -- 37 three-goal (hat trick) games; nine four-goal games; four five-goal games
  37. Most three goal games, one season: 10 (done twice) in 1981–82 and 1983–84
  38. Longest consecutive assist scoring streak: 23 games in 1990–91, 48 assists
  39. Longest consecutive point-scoring streak: 51 Games in 1983–84 (October 5, 1983 to January 28, 1984, 61 goals, 92 assists for 153 points)
  40. Longest consecutive point-scoring streak from start of season: 51 in 1983–84; 61 goals, 92 assists for 153 points (October 5, 1983 to January 28, 1984)

Playoff records (15)[edit]

  1. Most playoff goals, career: 122[16]
  2. Most playoff assists, career: 260[17]
  3. Most assists, one playoff year: 31 in 1988 (19 games)[18]
  4. Most assists in one series: 14 (tied with Rick Middleton) in 1985 Conference Finals (six games vs. Chicago)
  5. Most assists in final series: 10 in 1988 (four games, plus suspended game vs. Boston)
  6. Most assists, one playoff game: 6 (tied with Mikko Leinonen) on 9 April 1987[19]
  7. Most assists, one playoff period: 3 -- Three assists by one player in one period of a playoff game has been recorded on 70 occasions, five of them by Gretzky
  8. Most points, career: 382 -- 122 goals and 260 assists[20]
  9. Most points, one playoff year: 47 in 1985 (17 goals and 30 assists in 18 games)
  10. Most points in final series: 13 in 1988 three goals and 10 assists (four games plus suspended game vs. Boston, three goals)
  11. Most points, one playoff period: 4 (tied with nine other players)
  12. Most short-handed goals, one playoff year: 3 (tied with five other players) 1983[21]
  13. Most short-handed goals, one playoff game: 2 (tied with eight other players) 6 April 1983[22]
  14. Most game-winning goals in playoffs, career: 24 (tied with Brett Hull)[23]
  15. Most three-or-more goals games (hat trick): 10 (eight three-goal games, two four-goal games)

All-Star records (6)[edit]

  1. Most All-Star game goals, career: 13 (in 18 games played)
  2. Most All-Star game goals, one game: 4 (tied with three players) 1983 Campbell Conference
  3. Most All-Star game goals, one period: 4 1983 Campbell Conference, third period
  4. Most All-Star game assists, career: 12 (tied with four others)
  5. Most All-Star game points, career: 25 (13 goals, 12 assists in 18 games)
  6. Most All-Star game points, one period: 4 (tied with Mike Gartner and Adam Oates) 1983 Campbell Conference, third period (four goals)

Records update[edit]

Since Wayne Gretzky’s retirement, two of his records have fallen and he has gained one record, leaving him with a new total of 60 official records.

Broken Records[edit]

  • Gretzky’s record of 15 regular season overtime assists has now been passed by three players. They are Nicklas Lidstrom (16), Adam Oates (17), and Mark Messier (18).
  • Joe Sakic (16), Mark Messier (14), and Ray Bourque (13) have passed Gretzky’s record (12) for most All-Star game assists.

New Records[edit]

  • Wayne Gretzky finished his career with a 1.921 points per game average. Mario Lemieux originally held the record when Gretzky retired with 2.005 points per game, but after Lemieux came back to the NHL from 2000 to 2005, his points per game average fell to 1.883, falling to second behind Gretzky.

Unofficial records[edit]

Along with his numerous official records, Wayne Gretzky also has many "unofficial" records. These other records - though not recognized by the NHL Official Guide and Record Book - are still significant records.

NHL scoring records[edit]

  • Youngest player to score 50 goals in a season (19 years, two months)
  • Most points by an NHL player in his first year: 137. Because of Gretzky's season played in the WHA, he was not considered a rookie in his first year, so the rookie record belongs to Teemu Selanne with 132
  • Most assists by an NHL player in his first year: 86. The rookie record is held jointly by Peter Stastny and Joe Juneau with 70 assists. Note that the record book gives Gretzky the record for most assists and points in a game as a first year player, but not the season totals
  • Most 200-or-more point seasons: 4. Gretzky owns the official record for most 100 point seasons. He is the only player to reach 200 points in a season
  • Most consecutive 200 point seasons: 3
  • Most 70-or-more goal seasons: 4. The NHL has a record for most 60 goal seasons, but not 70. Eight players have achieved 70 goals, and Brett Hull did so three times.
  • Most consecutive 70 goal seasons: 4
  • Most 80-or-more goal seasons: 2
  • Most 90-or-more goal seasons: 1. Gretzky is the only player to achieve this
  • Fastest 50 goals from start of season: 50 goals in 39 games. The mark of 50 goals in 50 games is a rare event, achieved by only five players. The quickest, 50 goals in 39 games, is often labelled as the most difficult one to break of all of Gretzky's records. The NHL has an official record for the most goals in first 50 games, but not the fastest 50 goals
  • Fastest 100 points: 34 games in 1983–84
  • Most seasons averaging at least 1 point per game: 19
  • Most consecutive seasons averaging at least 1 point per game: 19
  • Most seasons averaging at least 2 points per game: 10
  • Most consecutive seasons averaging at least 2 points per game: 9
  • Most game-winning goals in the playoffs: 24 (tied with Brett Hull)
  • Most game-winning assists in one season: 23
  • Most game-winning assists in regular season career: 234
  • Most game-winning points in regular season career: 325
  • Highest career game-winning points per game average: 0.2185
  • Most 100-or-more assist seasons: 11
  • Most consecutive 100-or-more assist seasons: 11
  • Most seasons leading in even strength goals: 4
  • Most career even strength goals: 617
  • Most seasons leading in short-handed goals: 5
  • Most seasons leading in assists: 16
  • Most seasons leading in points: 11
  • Most seasons leading in both goals and assists: 5 (this was only achieved 7 other times in history, with Gordie Howe (2) and Mario Lemieux (2) accounting for 4 of those other occurrences).
  • Most seasons leading the league in goals, assists and Plus/Minus: 4 (no other player has done this, although Plus/Minus was only counted since 1967).
  • Most seasons leading in goals created: 7
  • Most seasons leading in assists per game: 12
  • Most seasons leading in points per game: 11
  • Most seasons leading in total goals on-ice for: 8
  • Most short-handed regular season career goals: 73
  • Most short-handed goals career (regular season & playoffs) : 85
  • Most 10+ shorthanded goals in a season : 2
  • Most shorthanded assists career (regular season) : 76
  • Most shorthanded assists career (playoffs) : 13
  • Most shorthanded assists career (regular season & playoffs) : 89
  • Most shorthanded points career (regular season) : 149
  • Most shorthanded points career (playoffs) : 24
  • Most shorthanded points career (regular season & playoffs) : 173
  • Most scoring championships (Art Ross Trophy😞 10
  • Largest margin of victory in the scoring race: 79 (in 1983–84)
  • Most seasons where he was his team's leading scorer: 19
  • Highest Plus/Minus in a single playoff year: +28 (1984–85)
  • Highest Plus/Minus by a forward, single season: +100
  • Highest Plus/Minus by a forward, career: +520
  • Highest Plus/Minus by a Center in Playoff Career: +67
  • Most MVP awards (Hart Memorial Trophy😞 9
  • Most trophies in career: 31
  • Former mark as youngest player to score three or more goals in an All-Star Game was passed by Dany Heatley in 2003.
  • Most official NHL records: 61 on retirement, 60 at present (As of April 2018, 19 years after his last game)

Major league scoring records[edit]

  • Most NHL and WHA regular season assists: 2,027 – Gretzky's 1384th career assist occurred on November 2, 1990, in Washington's 4-3 win over the Kings, breaking the record held by Gordie Howe.
  • Most NHL and WHA regular season points: 2,967 – Gretzky broke the record held by Gordie Howe on March 9, 1992, with an assist on a first period goal by Tony Granato to make the game score Los Angeles 2, Toronto 0 (final was 4-1). It was his 2359th career point on 1567 assists and 792 goals.
  • Most NHL and WHA goals, regular season (940) and playoff (132): 1,072 (one more than Gordie Howe), with Gretzky's final goal on March 29, 1999, being the game-winner with 2:07 remaining in the Rangers' 3–1 win over the New York Islanders
  • Most NHL and WHA regular season and playoff assists: 2,297
  • Most NHL and WHA regular season and playoff points: 3,369

Milestone records[edit]

Source: Big Mouth Sports[24]

The following are NHL milestone records:

  • Only Player To Reach 2000 Career Points
  • Only Player To Reach 3000 Career Points, Regular Season and Playoffs combined
  • Only Player To Reach 1000 Career Goals, Regular Season and Playoffs combined
  • Only Player To Reach 2000 Career Assists, Regular Season and Playoffs combined

Goals[edit]

  • Youngest 100 Goals (20 years, 40 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 200 Goals (242 games)- Modern Record, Cy Denneny scored 200 goals in 181 games, (21 years, 256 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 300 Goals (350 games), (22 years, 321 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 400 Goals (436 games), (23 years, 352 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 500 Goals (575 games), (25 years, 299 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 600 Goals (718 games, one fewer than Mario Lemieux), (27 years, 302 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 700 Goals (886 games), (29 years, 342 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 800 Goals (1116 games), (33 years, 53 days)

Assists[edit]

  • Fastest 100 Assists (92 games)
  • Fastest & Youngest 200 Assists (165 games), (20 years 264 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 300 Assists (229 games), (21 years 43 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 400 Assists (290 games), (21 years 362 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 500 Assists (352 games), (22 years 325 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 600 Assists (416 games), (23 years 307 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 700 Assists (478 games), (24 years 267 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 800 Assists (527 games), (25 years 11 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 900 Assists (584 games), (25 years 320 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1000 Assists (645 games), (26 years 282 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1100 Assists (706 games), (27 years 276 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1200 Assists (774 games), (28 years 65 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1300 Assists (846 games), (29 years 50 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1400 Assists (913 games), (30 years 38 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1500 Assists (986 games), (31 years 38 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1600 Assists (1068 games), (32 years 308 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1700 Assists (1179 games), (34 years 267 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1800 Assists (1286 games), (35 years 322 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1900 Assists (1404 games), (37 years 54 days)

Points[edit]

  • Fastest 100 Points (61 games)- Modern Record, Joe Malone and Newsy Lalonde share the record by scoring 100 points in 51 games.[25]
  • Fastest 200 Points (117 games)
  • Fastest & Youngest 300 Points (159 games), (20 years, 67 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 400 Points (197 games), (20 years, 335 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 500 Points (234 games), (21 years, 52 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 600 Points (274 games), (21 years, 330 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 700 Points (317 games), (22 years, 62 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 800 Points (352 games), (22 years, 325 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 900 Points (385 games), (23 years, 47 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1000 Points (424 games), (23 years, 328 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1100 Points (464 games), (24 years, 50 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1200 Points (504 games), (24 years, 321 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1300 Points (539 games), (25 years, 38 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1400 Points (580 games), (25 years, 313 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1500 Points (620 games), (26 years, 44 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1600 Points (667 games), (26 years, 330 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1700 Points (711 games), (27 years, 285 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1800 Points (754 games), (28 years, 23 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1900 Points (803 games), (28 years, 318 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2000 Points (857 games), (29 years, 273 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2050 Points (882 games), (29 years, 341 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2100 Points (908 games), (30 years, 27 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2200 Points (962 games), (30 years, 349 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2300 Points (1026 games), (32 years, 39 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2400 Points (1091 games), (32 years, 351 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2500 Points (1165 games), (34 years, 81 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2600 Points (1244 games), (35 years, 52 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2700 Points (1331 games), (36 years, 67 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2800 Points (1422 games), (37 years, 264 days)
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On 5/13/2020 at 7:26 AM, Pam Cummings said:

Sorry, i have no respect for someone who can't give other players their due. Laughing at Gary Payton like he was some scrub was some garbage, tbh.

I'll send him a letter so we  can all rest assured that Pam's grievances were properly aired.  I mean, not even anyone here gives a shit what you think, but this should at least make you feel better as you have clearly been wronged by the GOAT. 

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2 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Gretzky is even less debatable than Jordan as to his position as GOAT in his sport.  Google alltime hockey stats...

4 Stanley Cups and the Conn Smythe in all 4 of them.

Here's the records Gratzky holds:

Regular season records (40)[edit]

  1. Most goals: 894 in 1,487 games[2]
  2. Most goals, including playoffs: 1,016 in 1,487 regular season games including 122 playoff goals[2]
  3. Most goals, one season: 92 in 1981–82, 80-game schedule[3]
  4. Most goals, one season, including playoffs: 100 in 1983–84, 87 goals in 74 regular season games and 13 goals in 19 playoff games
  5. Most goals, 50 games from start of season: 61 in 1981–82 (7 October 1981 to 22 January 1982, 80-game schedule) and 1983–84 (5 October 1983 to 25 January 1984), 80-game schedule
  6. Most goals, one period: 4 (Tied with 10 other players) 18 February 1981
  7. Most assists: 1,963[4]
  8. Most assists, including playoffs: 2,223
  9. Most assists, one season: 163 in 1985–86, 80-game schedule[5]
  10. Most assists, one season, including playoffs: 174 in 1985–86, 163 assists in 80 regular season games and 11 assists in 10 playoff games
  11. Most assists, one game: 7 (tied with Billy "The Kid" Taylor) on three occasions—16 February 1980; 11 December 1985; 15 February 1986[6]
  12. Most assists, one road game: 7 (tied with Billy "The Kid" Taylor) 11 December 1985
  13. Most points: 2,857 in 1,487 games (894 goals, 1,963 assists)[7]
  14. Most points, including playoffs: 3,239 in 1,487 regular season and 208 playoff games. (1016 goals, 2223 assists)
  15. Most points, one season: 215 in 1985–86, 80-game schedule (52 goals, 163 assists)[8]
  16. Most points, one season, including playoffs: 255 in 1984–85; 208 points in 80 regular season games and 47 points in 18 playoff games
  17. Most overtime assists, career: 15
  18. Most goals by a centre, career: 894[9]
  19. Most goals by a centre, one season: 92 in 1981–82, 80-game schedule[10]
  20. Most assists by a centre, career: 1,963[11]
  21. Most assists by a centre, one season: 163 in 1985–86, 80-game schedule[12]
  22. Most points by a centre, career: 2,857[13]
  23. Most points by a centre, one season: 215 in 1985–86, 80-game schedule[14]
  24. Most assists in one game by a player in his first season: 7 on 15 February 1980
  25. Highest goals-per-game average, one season: 1.18 in 1983–84, 87 goals in 74 games
  26. Highest assists-per-game average, career (300 min.): 1.321 -- 1,963 assists in 1,487 games
  27. Highest assists-per-game average, one season: 2.04 in 1985–86, 163 assists in 80 games
  28. Highest points-per-game average, one season (among players with 50-or-more points): 2.77 in 1983–84, 205 points in 74 games[15]
  29. Most 40-or-more goal seasons: 12 in 20 seasons
  30. Most consecutive 40-or-more goal seasons: 12 from 1979–80 to 1990–91
  31. Most 50-or-more goal seasons: 9 (tied with Mike Bossy)
  32. Most 60-or-more goal seasons: 5 (tied with Mike Bossy)
  33. Most consecutive 60-or-more goals seasons: 4 from 1981–82 to 1984–85
  34. Most 100-or-more point seasons: 15
  35. Most consecutive 100-or-more point seasons: 13 from 1979–80 to 1991–92
  36. Most three-or-more goal games, career: 50 -- 37 three-goal (hat trick) games; nine four-goal games; four five-goal games
  37. Most three goal games, one season: 10 (done twice) in 1981–82 and 1983–84
  38. Longest consecutive assist scoring streak: 23 games in 1990–91, 48 assists
  39. Longest consecutive point-scoring streak: 51 Games in 1983–84 (October 5, 1983 to January 28, 1984, 61 goals, 92 assists for 153 points)
  40. Longest consecutive point-scoring streak from start of season: 51 in 1983–84; 61 goals, 92 assists for 153 points (October 5, 1983 to January 28, 1984)

Playoff records (15)[edit]

  1. Most playoff goals, career: 122[16]
  2. Most playoff assists, career: 260[17]
  3. Most assists, one playoff year: 31 in 1988 (19 games)[18]
  4. Most assists in one series: 14 (tied with Rick Middleton) in 1985 Conference Finals (six games vs. Chicago)
  5. Most assists in final series: 10 in 1988 (four games, plus suspended game vs. Boston)
  6. Most assists, one playoff game: 6 (tied with Mikko Leinonen) on 9 April 1987[19]
  7. Most assists, one playoff period: 3 -- Three assists by one player in one period of a playoff game has been recorded on 70 occasions, five of them by Gretzky
  8. Most points, career: 382 -- 122 goals and 260 assists[20]
  9. Most points, one playoff year: 47 in 1985 (17 goals and 30 assists in 18 games)
  10. Most points in final series: 13 in 1988 three goals and 10 assists (four games plus suspended game vs. Boston, three goals)
  11. Most points, one playoff period: 4 (tied with nine other players)
  12. Most short-handed goals, one playoff year: 3 (tied with five other players) 1983[21]
  13. Most short-handed goals, one playoff game: 2 (tied with eight other players) 6 April 1983[22]
  14. Most game-winning goals in playoffs, career: 24 (tied with Brett Hull)[23]
  15. Most three-or-more goals games (hat trick): 10 (eight three-goal games, two four-goal games)

All-Star records (6)[edit]

  1. Most All-Star game goals, career: 13 (in 18 games played)
  2. Most All-Star game goals, one game: 4 (tied with three players) 1983 Campbell Conference
  3. Most All-Star game goals, one period: 4 1983 Campbell Conference, third period
  4. Most All-Star game assists, career: 12 (tied with four others)
  5. Most All-Star game points, career: 25 (13 goals, 12 assists in 18 games)
  6. Most All-Star game points, one period: 4 (tied with Mike Gartner and Adam Oates) 1983 Campbell Conference, third period (four goals)

Records update[edit]

Since Wayne Gretzky’s retirement, two of his records have fallen and he has gained one record, leaving him with a new total of 60 official records.

Broken Records[edit]

  • Gretzky’s record of 15 regular season overtime assists has now been passed by three players. They are Nicklas Lidstrom (16), Adam Oates (17), and Mark Messier (18).
  • Joe Sakic (16), Mark Messier (14), and Ray Bourque (13) have passed Gretzky’s record (12) for most All-Star game assists.

New Records[edit]

  • Wayne Gretzky finished his career with a 1.921 points per game average. Mario Lemieux originally held the record when Gretzky retired with 2.005 points per game, but after Lemieux came back to the NHL from 2000 to 2005, his points per game average fell to 1.883, falling to second behind Gretzky.

Unofficial records[edit]

Along with his numerous official records, Wayne Gretzky also has many "unofficial" records. These other records - though not recognized by the NHL Official Guide and Record Book - are still significant records.

NHL scoring records[edit]

  • Youngest player to score 50 goals in a season (19 years, two months)
  • Most points by an NHL player in his first year: 137. Because of Gretzky's season played in the WHA, he was not considered a rookie in his first year, so the rookie record belongs to Teemu Selanne with 132
  • Most assists by an NHL player in his first year: 86. The rookie record is held jointly by Peter Stastny and Joe Juneau with 70 assists. Note that the record book gives Gretzky the record for most assists and points in a game as a first year player, but not the season totals
  • Most 200-or-more point seasons: 4. Gretzky owns the official record for most 100 point seasons. He is the only player to reach 200 points in a season
  • Most consecutive 200 point seasons: 3
  • Most 70-or-more goal seasons: 4. The NHL has a record for most 60 goal seasons, but not 70. Eight players have achieved 70 goals, and Brett Hull did so three times.
  • Most consecutive 70 goal seasons: 4
  • Most 80-or-more goal seasons: 2
  • Most 90-or-more goal seasons: 1. Gretzky is the only player to achieve this
  • Fastest 50 goals from start of season: 50 goals in 39 games. The mark of 50 goals in 50 games is a rare event, achieved by only five players. The quickest, 50 goals in 39 games, is often labelled as the most difficult one to break of all of Gretzky's records. The NHL has an official record for the most goals in first 50 games, but not the fastest 50 goals
  • Fastest 100 points: 34 games in 1983–84
  • Most seasons averaging at least 1 point per game: 19
  • Most consecutive seasons averaging at least 1 point per game: 19
  • Most seasons averaging at least 2 points per game: 10
  • Most consecutive seasons averaging at least 2 points per game: 9
  • Most game-winning goals in the playoffs: 24 (tied with Brett Hull)
  • Most game-winning assists in one season: 23
  • Most game-winning assists in regular season career: 234
  • Most game-winning points in regular season career: 325
  • Highest career game-winning points per game average: 0.2185
  • Most 100-or-more assist seasons: 11
  • Most consecutive 100-or-more assist seasons: 11
  • Most seasons leading in even strength goals: 4
  • Most career even strength goals: 617
  • Most seasons leading in short-handed goals: 5
  • Most seasons leading in assists: 16
  • Most seasons leading in points: 11
  • Most seasons leading in both goals and assists: 5 (this was only achieved 7 other times in history, with Gordie Howe (2) and Mario Lemieux (2) accounting for 4 of those other occurrences).
  • Most seasons leading the league in goals, assists and Plus/Minus: 4 (no other player has done this, although Plus/Minus was only counted since 1967).
  • Most seasons leading in goals created: 7
  • Most seasons leading in assists per game: 12
  • Most seasons leading in points per game: 11
  • Most seasons leading in total goals on-ice for: 8
  • Most short-handed regular season career goals: 73
  • Most short-handed goals career (regular season & playoffs) : 85
  • Most 10+ shorthanded goals in a season : 2
  • Most shorthanded assists career (regular season) : 76
  • Most shorthanded assists career (playoffs) : 13
  • Most shorthanded assists career (regular season & playoffs) : 89
  • Most shorthanded points career (regular season) : 149
  • Most shorthanded points career (playoffs) : 24
  • Most shorthanded points career (regular season & playoffs) : 173
  • Most scoring championships (Art Ross Trophy😞 10
  • Largest margin of victory in the scoring race: 79 (in 1983–84)
  • Most seasons where he was his team's leading scorer: 19
  • Highest Plus/Minus in a single playoff year: +28 (1984–85)
  • Highest Plus/Minus by a forward, single season: +100
  • Highest Plus/Minus by a forward, career: +520
  • Highest Plus/Minus by a Center in Playoff Career: +67
  • Most MVP awards (Hart Memorial Trophy😞 9
  • Most trophies in career: 31
  • Former mark as youngest player to score three or more goals in an All-Star Game was passed by Dany Heatley in 2003.
  • Most official NHL records: 61 on retirement, 60 at present (As of April 2018, 19 years after his last game)

Major league scoring records[edit]

  • Most NHL and WHA regular season assists: 2,027 – Gretzky's 1384th career assist occurred on November 2, 1990, in Washington's 4-3 win over the Kings, breaking the record held by Gordie Howe.
  • Most NHL and WHA regular season points: 2,967 – Gretzky broke the record held by Gordie Howe on March 9, 1992, with an assist on a first period goal by Tony Granato to make the game score Los Angeles 2, Toronto 0 (final was 4-1). It was his 2359th career point on 1567 assists and 792 goals.
  • Most NHL and WHA goals, regular season (940) and playoff (132): 1,072 (one more than Gordie Howe), with Gretzky's final goal on March 29, 1999, being the game-winner with 2:07 remaining in the Rangers' 3–1 win over the New York Islanders
  • Most NHL and WHA regular season and playoff assists: 2,297
  • Most NHL and WHA regular season and playoff points: 3,369

Milestone records[edit]

Source: Big Mouth Sports[24]

The following are NHL milestone records:

  • Only Player To Reach 2000 Career Points
  • Only Player To Reach 3000 Career Points, Regular Season and Playoffs combined
  • Only Player To Reach 1000 Career Goals, Regular Season and Playoffs combined
  • Only Player To Reach 2000 Career Assists, Regular Season and Playoffs combined

Goals[edit]

  • Youngest 100 Goals (20 years, 40 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 200 Goals (242 games)- Modern Record, Cy Denneny scored 200 goals in 181 games, (21 years, 256 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 300 Goals (350 games), (22 years, 321 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 400 Goals (436 games), (23 years, 352 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 500 Goals (575 games), (25 years, 299 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 600 Goals (718 games, one fewer than Mario Lemieux), (27 years, 302 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 700 Goals (886 games), (29 years, 342 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 800 Goals (1116 games), (33 years, 53 days)

Assists[edit]

  • Fastest 100 Assists (92 games)
  • Fastest & Youngest 200 Assists (165 games), (20 years 264 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 300 Assists (229 games), (21 years 43 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 400 Assists (290 games), (21 years 362 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 500 Assists (352 games), (22 years 325 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 600 Assists (416 games), (23 years 307 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 700 Assists (478 games), (24 years 267 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 800 Assists (527 games), (25 years 11 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 900 Assists (584 games), (25 years 320 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1000 Assists (645 games), (26 years 282 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1100 Assists (706 games), (27 years 276 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1200 Assists (774 games), (28 years 65 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1300 Assists (846 games), (29 years 50 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1400 Assists (913 games), (30 years 38 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1500 Assists (986 games), (31 years 38 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1600 Assists (1068 games), (32 years 308 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1700 Assists (1179 games), (34 years 267 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1800 Assists (1286 games), (35 years 322 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1900 Assists (1404 games), (37 years 54 days)

Points[edit]

  • Fastest 100 Points (61 games)- Modern Record, Joe Malone and Newsy Lalonde share the record by scoring 100 points in 51 games.[25]
  • Fastest 200 Points (117 games)
  • Fastest & Youngest 300 Points (159 games), (20 years, 67 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 400 Points (197 games), (20 years, 335 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 500 Points (234 games), (21 years, 52 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 600 Points (274 games), (21 years, 330 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 700 Points (317 games), (22 years, 62 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 800 Points (352 games), (22 years, 325 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 900 Points (385 games), (23 years, 47 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1000 Points (424 games), (23 years, 328 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1100 Points (464 games), (24 years, 50 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1200 Points (504 games), (24 years, 321 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1300 Points (539 games), (25 years, 38 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1400 Points (580 games), (25 years, 313 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1500 Points (620 games), (26 years, 44 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1600 Points (667 games), (26 years, 330 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1700 Points (711 games), (27 years, 285 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1800 Points (754 games), (28 years, 23 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 1900 Points (803 games), (28 years, 318 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2000 Points (857 games), (29 years, 273 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2050 Points (882 games), (29 years, 341 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2100 Points (908 games), (30 years, 27 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2200 Points (962 games), (30 years, 349 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2300 Points (1026 games), (32 years, 39 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2400 Points (1091 games), (32 years, 351 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2500 Points (1165 games), (34 years, 81 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2600 Points (1244 games), (35 years, 52 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2700 Points (1331 games), (36 years, 67 days)
  • Fastest & Youngest 2800 Points (1422 games), (37 years, 264 days)

I definitely agree with you.  But most say even today Jordan would be GOAT, and he may even be better with the advantages given at the offensive end of the court - no Jordan rules today, would never fly.  Many say Gretzky wouldn't be the same in today's game - I'm not sure, but to me Gretzky is the greatest...

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7 minutes ago, Hate said:

Gretzky also played on some stacked teams. One of those teams won a cup without him. Gretzky never won a cup once he left Edmonton, although he did play in one Cup Finals.

Messier has 6 rings.  Gretzky only 4.  One of em is the GOAT in hockey by a huge ass margin... 

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31 minutes ago, Hate said:

Gretzky also played on some stacked teams. One of those teams won a cup without him. Gretzky never won a cup once he left Edmonton, although he did play in one Cup Finals.

Jordan never won a title once he left Chicago.

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54 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I definitely agree with you.  But most say even today Jordan would be GOAT, and he may even be better with the advantages given at the offensive end of the court - no Jordan rules today, would never fly.  Many say Gretzky wouldn't be the same in today's game - I'm not sure, but to me Gretzky is the greatest...

This is even more fun of a chart if you put up what the second-place record holder has as a stat. He's ~900 points ahead of second place in all-time points, for example (Jagr).

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3 hours ago, Hate said:

I understand that, but GOAT status was being compared across sports. I think the 6 rings matter more than all of the records. Gretzky is undoubtably the GOAT in hockey.

9 MVPs in his sport, a sport with more players...

Rings matter, but so does recognition as the best.

My bigger point on Gretzky is the Lady Byng Trophies and the fact that he was recognized for his sportsmanship, repeatedly; along with being the best ever in his sport.

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On 5/12/2020 at 7:45 PM, Pam Cummings said:

Yeah you can prop up the "his desire to win was so great that it made him be a completely awful being to everyone around him and it made them a better basketball player" narrative all you want. And i'm sure those guys were very motivated to not disappoint MJ. The fact of the matter is MJ didn't win shit until he had Pippen/Phil/a better overall team. 

Your stupidity knows no bounds

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17 minutes ago, Iceman said:

9 MVPs in his sport, a sport with more players...

Rings matter, but so does recognition as the best.

My bigger point on Gretzky is the Lady Byng Trophies and the fact that he was recognized for his sportsmanship, repeatedly; along with being the best ever in his sport.

That was my question how he got there. As one of the guys are a driven asshole.

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So Jordan and Gretzky are fucking awesome and LeBron can suck my mutha fucking dick?  You young people gargle all the wrong balls you fucking morons...

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4 hours ago, capnamerca said:

This is even more fun of a chart if you put up what the second-place record holder has as a stat. He's ~900 points ahead of second place in all-time points, for example (Jagr).

A shame Lemieux didn't have better luck with his body/health. He's the only one who even lives in Gretzky's pts/gm neighborhood and that's with a decent stint played post-cancer/retirement.

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I mean, statistically speaking...there's gotta be some...no?  Particularly with the advent of the ball +1 to the 3 ball gameplan?  

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6 hours ago, Iceman said:

Gretzky

Trout

Neither one of them had the 'asshole' tag on their clubhouse personna.  the Astros are still Altuve's team and he clowns with the best of em; although Lance McCullers found out not to fuck around the wrong way and show up a teammate.

Trout is a super nice guy. He’ll also never win any game of actual consequence, nor does he elevate/push his teammates to be better themselves. Poor example.

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Just now, Helobious said:

Trout is a super nice guy. He’ll also never win any game of actual consequence, nor does he elevate/push his teammates to be better themselves. Poor example.

He's the best player in the game today and will be for the era.

Substitute Jose Altuve, if you must.   Much beloved Yankee killer.

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Just now, Onboard 2.0 said:

He's not even in a top 10 list for a GOAT.

I know, but he's better than anyone Helobious roots for, and that was the point.  Baseball's different.  It's an individual sport in a team setting, if you will.

 

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Crazy that Brent is 11 years younger, played for a franchise that didn't exist when his brother was drafted, scored 4 points,  and we still talk about him.  

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9 hours ago, Iceman said:

Gretzky

Trout

Neither one of them had the 'asshole' tag on their clubhouse personna.  the Astros are still Altuve's team and he clowns with the best of em; although Lance McCullers found out not to fuck around the wrong way and show up a teammate.

How dare you compare Michael Jordan with the piece of shit cheating Houston Astros 

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23 hours ago, Iceman said:

Gretzky

Trout

Neither one of them had the 'asshole' tag on their clubhouse personna.  the Astros are still Altuve's team and he clowns with the best of em; although Lance McCullers found out not to fuck around the wrong way and show up a teammate.

Are you under the belief that Jordan didn't hang out with his teammates?  

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Are you under the belief that Jordan didn't hang out with his teammates?  

What gives you that idea? Jordan’s leader ship style was abrasive. But he wasn’t ostracized by any means. It’s not like he was some Lonewolf

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My son, who is in a constant argument with me about LBJ being the goat, pointed me to some YouTube commentary that basically said the changing of the defensive rules in the early 2000s would make Jordan less effective today.  No more isolation moves that were Jordan's bread and butter and since his career 3 pt % is low compared to the players of today he'd have trouble scoring as much.

My response was do you think for a second if 3s were the most important part of the game he wouldn't spend all summer practicing from long range until he was hitting 50%?  I mean he's watched all 8 episodes with me, has he just not been paying attention?  

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5 minutes ago, Not a cat said:

My son, who is in a constant argument with me about LBJ being the goat, pointed me to some YouTube commentary that basically said the changing of the defensive rules in the early 2000s would make Jordan less effective today.  No more isolation moves that were Jordan's bread and butter and since his career 3 pt % is low compared to the players of today he'd have trouble scoring as much.

My response was do you think for a second if 3s were the most important part of the game he wouldn't spend all summer practicing from long range until he was hitting 50%?  I mean he's watched all 8 episodes with me, has he just not been paying attention?  

2 thoughts.

First you have failed as a parent.

Second you need to disavow him to save face.

Let us know when it's done.

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2 hours ago, Dr. Beeper said:

There is no way Gretzky is a bigger GOAT than Jordan. Merely having a conversation about it is a waste of time. The only one who can approach MJ is the Babe. Not Ali, not Gretzky, not TB or Jim Brown, not Jack or Tiger. 

I don't know shit about hockey but I live in the middle of hockey country.  People will argue over LBJ/Jordan, Brady/Montana, Trout/Williams and all sorts of goat conversations.  I've never heard a hockey goat discussion.  It's just taken as a given.

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26 minutes ago, Not a cat said:

I don't know shit about hockey but I live in the middle of hockey country.  People will argue over LBJ/Jordan, Brady/Montana, Trout/Williams and all sorts of goat conversations.  I've never heard a hockey goat discussion.  It's just taken as a given.

Gretzky was probably as good at hockey as Jordan was at basketball.  His problem is that a decent percentage of people in this country give not a single fuck about hockey.  I’m a pretty big sports fan, live in Dallas, and I’m not sure I could name more than 3 or 4 players on the Stars.

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4 hours ago, Dr. Beeper said:

There is no way Gretzky is a bigger GOAT than Jordan. Merely having a conversation about it is a waste of time. The only one who can approach MJ is the Babe. Not Ali, not Gretzky, not TB or Jim Brown, not Jack or Tiger. 

This is wrong. Just plain wrong. Gretzky is *easily* a bigger GOAT than Jordan. Easily. Gretzky is so far and away the best hockey player ever that it's not even an argument. 

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