2021-22 Big XII Basketball Thread of Fuck Baylor

[SL Xpress 7,608]

4 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

This will never not irk me. Blue bloods get away with far, far worse than what the 'Pokes will miss the postseason for this year.

Along with fully cooperating with the investigation. The lesson over and over seems to be, whatever you do, fight the investigation at every turn. 
 

This is ancient history, but I’ll always remember when Jim Wacker’s TCU team got hammered when Wacker discovered the under the table payment system F.A Dry had set up before him. Wacker was trying his hardest to do things the right way in an era where cheating was ridiculously rampant. TCU didn’t get the death penalty like SMU, but they were never the same until Franchionne/Patterson came along. 

[jimmyjazz 46,976]

The NCAA only maintains power as long as the premier programs allow it.  When Texas, Alabama, Notre Dame, North Carolina, etc. start to push back, it's only a matter of time.  So far, it's been a balancing act.  

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19 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The NCAA only maintains power as long as the premier programs allow it.  When Texas, Alabama, Notre Dame, North Carolina, etc. start to push back, it's only a matter of time.  So far, it's been a balancing act.   mockery of accountability.

slight correction.

[royiv 9,688]

9 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

Yup, remains to be seen how good Arizona actually is, too. They haven't really played anyone, their best win is over a 9-7 Michigan team. The only team they've played on their schedule so far that's ranked was Tennessee and that was a loss.

They also beat Illinois on the road. UCLA tonight should be an interesting game. 

[Catdaddyhorn 3,462]

2 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said:

This will never not irk me. Blue bloods get away with far, far worse than what the 'Pokes will miss the postseason for this year.

You don't even have to raise it to the level of bluebloods. Fucking South Carolina got away with the exact same infraction committed by the exact same offender. 

[Brian Fantana 6,856]

TCU is awful

Woof

[shadow_operative2.0 16,181]

This place was loud as fuck until about the under-12 TO. 

['stache 22,117]

Basketball really needs to figure out officiating. It is so inconsistent that every team can legitimately claim that they are regularly screwed, especially when games are decided by a few points. Every single game they make calls on one end that are different on the other. Worse still is different crews calling games differently game to game. I know the game goes really fast and has become much more physical making it difficult to see the same things for a full game or to be perfectly consistent game to game. I don't know the answer. But it's getting worse every year. 

PS. I'm not talking about the obvious stuff like the phantom three and the non-goal tending I keep posting. Those are just outright egregious and incompetent. I'm talking about the ticky tack stuff that has taken over the game.

[Js1 86,941]

5 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Basketball really needs to figure out officiating. It is so inconsistent that every team can legitimately claim that they are regularly screwed, especially when games are decided by a few points. Every single game they make calls on one end that are different on the other. Worse still is different crews calling games differently game to game. I know the game goes really fast and has become much more physical making it difficult to see the same things for a full game or to be perfectly consistent game to game. I don't know the answer. But it's getting worse every year. 

PS. I'm not talking about the obvious stuff like the phantom three and the non-goal tending I keep posting. Those are just outright egregious and incompetent. I'm talking about the ticky tack stuff that has taken over the game.

Yes, exactly.  Officiating is ruining the watchability of some of these games.  

['stache 22,117]

We've been bitching about officiating for years, and maybe I'm just getting older and crankier, but it just seems to be get worse and worse. I used to scoff at the "it's become unwatchable" crowd, but I'm seriously getting close. I used to also think that players could be coached to avoid close calls, especially towards the end of close games, but goddamn its become inconsistent not only game-to-game, but play-to-play.

[Brian Fantana 6,856]

The only one of our games that has been like that so far really is the WVU game. 50 fouls in that game. Unwatchable. Mostly, I blame huggins.

[Al_4_ISU 12,612]

3 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

The only one of our games that has been like that so far really is the WVU game. 50 fouls in that game. Unwatchable. Mostly, I blame huggins.

Our games have been pretty ugly, and we both play somewhat similarly to WVU so it ain't all on Huggy Bear.  Adams and Otz are bringing that style if we're being honest.

['stache 22,117]

4 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

The only one of our games that has been like that so far really is the WVU game. 50 fouls in that game. Unwatchable. Mostly, I blame huggins.

I don't care so much if there are a lot of calls, just be consistent. I've seen numerous games this year where essentially the same play is ruled a charge on one end and a block on the other. Two shots for barely touching a guy and nothing when a guy gets tackled on the other end. WVU is a good example of the problem. They have always played super physical. Sometimes the refs call it tight, sometimes they "let them play." No consistency game to game. How does a coach prepare a team to play WVU when you don't know which refs will show up?

[Al_4_ISU 12,612]

6 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I don't care so much if there are a lot of calls, just be consistent. I've seen numerous games this year where essentially the same play is ruled a charge on one end and a block on the other. Two shots for barely touching a guy and nothing when a guy gets tackled on the other end. WVU is a good example of the problem. They have always played super physical. Sometimes the refs call it tight, sometimes they "let them play." No consistency game to game. How does a coach prepare a team to play WVU when you don't know which refs will show up?

I've noticed this with ISU and Tech as well.  In our games (between the two) there have been numerous occasions of guys getting tackled in the paint and nothing is called, and incidental shit at the top of the key drawing a whistle.

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24 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

The only one of our games that has been like that so far really is the WVU game. 50 fouls in that game. Unwatchable. Mostly, I blame huggins.

I think the Providence game was even worse...much, much worse than the WVU game.  At least it seemed that way watching it.

[Al_4_ISU 12,612]

Lucky to get that call on the goaltend.

Season saving win.

['stache 22,117]

Lol, just as discussed earlier today. The ball is rolling off the rim, called offensive goaltending. Clearly rolling out on replay, upheld. Just absurd. I don’t understand why this shit is so hard to get right in clear slow motion replay.

[JWinTX 53]

3 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Lucky to get that call on the goaltend.

Season saving win.

Nice win tonight on the road. Looks good on the resume.

[Al_4_ISU 12,612]

Lol, just as discussed earlier today. The ball is rolling off the rim, called offensive goaltending. Clearly rolling out on replay, upheld. Just absurd. I don’t understand why this shit is so hard to get right in clear slow motion replay.

Announcers thought it was a good call, but I was pretty stunned by it. I would be pissed if I were you.

['stache 22,117]

I guess the rule says that any part of the ball within the ring extended upwards is interference, so right call probably. I thought the ball had to be mostly within the cylinder. What a stupid fucking game. Buncha monkey fucking by both teams at the end of regulation and overtime. We had no business shooting that well, still couldn’t win. Nothing to play for, I honestly don’t know why I watch after the ncaa has determined we should just be fucked around with over and over again.

Edited January 27, 2022 by 'stache

[Al_4_ISU 12,612]

We shot 3s out of our ass. We haven’t hit a 3 ball in weeks and we won’t again for another couple weeks. I don’t feel good about this win but I won’t apologize for it either. We needed the W and it wasn’t gonna help y’all at the end of the year

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16 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Our games have been pretty ugly, and we both play somewhat similarly to WVU so it ain't all on Huggy Bear.  Adams and Otz are bringing that style if we're being honest.

Y'all had 28 fouls against Tech and lost by 12. .  In the game y'all won vs Tech, you had 19.

Huggies boys had 30.

[Al_4_ISU 12,612]

Y'all had 28 fouls against Tech and lost by 12. .  In the game y'all won vs Tech, you had 19.
Huggies boys had 30.

I think the refs intentionally swallowed the whistles in our first game because you guys had such a short bench. They were really letting both teams play.

[LTtxfan 49,910]

 

[Horny Bull 2,766]

TCU up 9 on LSU at the half.

[VaLonghorn99 358]

TCU up by 9 on LSU at the half. Go frogs.

[Brian Fantana 6,856]

Is LSU still down a few players?

[Uncle Nate 2,097]

3 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Is LSU still down a few players?

That’s ok. They have three officials to make up for it. 

[HtownHorn 15,243]

Looks like TCU will win this one, unless they shit the court. Big win for their NCAAT chances.

[Js1 86,941]

1 minute ago, HtownHorn said:

Looks like TCU will win this one, unless they shit the court. Big win for their NCAAT chances.

Also fuck that cheating POS Wade 

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1 minute ago, HtownHorn said:

Looks like TCU will win this one, unless they shit the court. Big win for their NCAAT chances.

yea this is a big win for their tournament hopes

if the Big 12 can take a large % of their games that will help TCU and others on the cups even ore

[HtownHorn 15,243]

The next slate of games favors the SEC. Two SEC home games against Big 12 teams that are 7-10 in conference. ISU should beat Missouri.

If it's 2-2 going into the late afternoon-night games, Big 12 is likely going 7-3.

[hundredTT 578]

Should have been Baylor/Auburn. But oh well, tons of good basketball today! 

[VirginiaLonghorn 4,878]

8 minutes ago, hundredTT said:

Should have been Baylor/Auburn. But oh well, tons of good basketball today! 

Drew-v-Pearl … 🤢

[Brian Fantana 6,856]

WVU has 8 fouls before the 10 minute mark in the first half. Huggins needs to retire, no one is having that shit anymore.

[Brian Fantana 6,856]

OU not totally embarrassing themselves

[Brian Fantana 6,856]

Ok now they're kinda embarrassing themselves

[hobbes2702 13,351]

1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

WVU has 8 fouls before the 10 minute mark in the first half. Huggins needs to retire, no one is having that shit anymore.

Arkansas has 30 FTs in this game lol. 

[Brian Fantana 6,856]

3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Arkansas has 30 FTs in this game lol. 

WVU has committed 28 fouls so far. You'd think Huggins would recognize his style isn't flying anymore. Maybe he's too old to change.

Edited January 29, 2022 by Brian Fantana

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1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said:

WVU has committed 28 fouls so far. You'd think Huggins would recognize his style isn't flying anymore. Maybe he's too old to change.

I dunno if he’s too old to change but he’s certainly too Bob Huggins to change.

[Brian Fantana 6,856]

Baylor without their leading scorer today

['stache 22,117]

OSU making 3s for once, up 30-16 at FLA.

[Uncle Nate 2,097]

I hate this damn Big 12-SEC challenge. It has forced me to root for both TCU and Baylor on the same day. 
 

I feel dirty. Truly unclean. 

[Cairn Horn88 8,500]

44 minutes ago, Uncle Nate said:

I hate this damn Big 12-SEC challenge. It has forced me to root for both TCU and Baylor on the same day. 
 

I feel dirty. Truly unclean. 

I was thinking about this issue once the Horns enter the secsec.  I'll still root for some of these B12 teams when they are playing secsec...

[Cairn Horn88 8,500]

Is Bama full strength?

['stache 22,117]

And we stink again. Should have seen it coming.

[Brian Fantana 6,856]

I think we broke Scott Drew's brain

Baylor is totally out of sorts

[LTtxfan 49,910]

Damn thread title working -- bears down 15pts

under 12 minutes left 2nd half

Spoiler

"Fuck baylor"

 

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Just now, Cairn Horn88 said:

I was thinking about this issue once the Horns enter the secsec.  I'll still root for some of these B12 teams when they are playing secsec...

 

The SEC better hope we don't get our act together in football. That collective fan base has no idea how arrogant we are or what form it's going to manifest into. I absolutely loathe the SEC. I feel like it's our birthright as Texas fans to do so. I've hated those mouth breathers for decades. I do feel like it's the right move, but holy hell I wish there had been a way to get into the Big 10, even if it wouldn't have made sense for all kinds of reasons. The Big 12 was a dead end, but the SEC is a cesspool. Glad we're going to be there, but there's a holier than thou attitude about it, too, and I don't think I'm alone with that.

Holy shit I hate the fucking SEC. That isn't going to change just because Texas is now a member. 

"You just think you're better than everyone else."

As a matter of fact, we do.

And for the record, I've loved being a part of the Big 12 in basketball. I haven't enjoyed the results over the last decade plus, but I've loved being a part of the conference. It's football and overall athletic departments that had me begging to get out.

 

[LTtxfan 49,910]

Refs suck -- that wasn't a foul on baylor...