Texas BBQ

[dcbc 14487]

4 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

I thought about the same thing, but read Michael Rhulman's The Making of a Chef, and quickly changed my mind. I love to cook, but it literally kills people who do it for a living. Maybe if I could get on with someone who does private catering, but would never do a restaurant. 

I just think sitting still in retirement might be worse for me.  Fortunately, I have a job I can do long-term, low stress, with plenty of time for me and me/family.  So cooking for them and myself certainly will scratch the itch and not result in my hating it.

[Trey3216 15346]

3 minutes ago, dcbc said:

I just think sitting still in retirement might be worse for me.  Fortunately, I have a job I can do long-term, low stress, with plenty of time for me and me/family.  So cooking for them and myself certainly will scratch the itch and not result in my hating it.

I didn't cook a brisket for almost 3 years after I got done with it, and it's one of my favorite things on earth to do.  I don't even do it as much as I'd like to anymore because I'd rather hang with my little girls.  I'd do it again someday, but only in the right atmosphere and only with my dime.  

[dcbc 14487]

7 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

I didn't cook a brisket for almost 3 years after I got done with it, and it's one of my favorite things on earth to do.  I don't even do it as much as I'd like to anymore because I'd rather hang with my little girls.  I'd do it again someday, but only in the right atmosphere and only with my dime.  

That's the reason I stopped brewing beer and the reason I stuck with the WSM and added a temperature controller.  I don't have to babysit something for the better part of 18 hours (unless I want to say I have to do so for some needed me-time  ).  

[luke duke 6413]

[DoobieWah 1445]

Dozier's. 

I've tried to get them to honor those prices but no dice. 😁

[NWBuck 8570]

22 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Well, now that it's been destigmatized, I am interested in taking a crack at this addiction thing

[Guest]

5 hours ago, luke duke said:

Interesting that ribs are 22% cheaper than the beef, while the ham is 18% higher. The best smoked ham I've ever had isn't even in the same ballpark with the best brisket.  Then again, who knows what the market was for pigs those days?

Edited October 27, 2023 by slorch

[utee94 15825]

Ham was considered premium-- Christmas dinner type stuff.  BBQ beef was cheap food made from cheap cuts.

Oh the times they are a'changin'

 

 

[tx 3 putt 76980]

5 hours ago, utee94 said:

Ham was considered premium-- Christmas dinner type stuff.  BBQ beef was cheap food made from cheap cuts.

Oh the times they are a'changin'

 

 

 

let me tell you when beef fajitas were 99 cent / lb 

[NoName 16353]

On 10/26/2023 at 9:07 AM, dcbc said:

I'm listening to the audiobook of Kitchen Confidential for the third time.  I love to cook, and I'm already hesitant to consider working in a kitchen after I retire since it seems like a way to ruin a perfectly good hobby.  But if I did ever decide to get into that business, I would most certainly want to work for someone else, and probably would aspire to be a dish washer or, at most, a prep cook.  The stress level any higher up the brigade sounds like it would kill me quick.  

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I know myself.  I'm not fast.  My family and friends are patient when it comes to eating well-prepared food thankfully.

the TV show of the same name is worth a watch. starring a young Bradley Cooper as Bourdain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen_Confidential_(TV_series)

not streaming on a normal website so hvae to sail the high seas i think

[jimmyjazz 45963]

2 minutes ago, NoName said:

the TV show of the same name is worth a watch. starring a young Bradley Cooper as Bourdain

I've never heard of that.  Cancelled after 4 episodes.  Must have been great.

[utee94 15825]

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

let me tell you when beef fajitas were 99 cent / lb 

I'm not that young.  Let me tell you when skirt steak was $.59/lb. 😠

[Texzilla58 4738]

My grandmother would buy hog lights for about a six cents a pound. If you don’t know what lights are you’re missing out. Lungs. Pig lungs. Awful.

[NoName 16353]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

I've never heard of that.  Cancelled after 4 episodes.  Must have been great.

i enjoyed it but to be fair i haven't seen it in years. either way, i have fond memories and need to re-watch it.

[utee94 15825]

1 hour ago, utee94 said:

I'm not that young.  Let me tell you when skirt steak was $.59/lb. 😠

Come to think of it, brisket was also $.59/lb and it wasn't actually THAT long ago...

I blame Jerry Jones, or something.

[Sam Lin 3559]

12 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

let me tell you when beef fajitas were 99 cent / lb 

How much were the chicken fajitas?

[futureman 22469]

On 10/25/2023 at 8:16 PM, Anastasis said:

Looks like Valentina’s trying to generate some cash by offering gift cards with a 50% bonus up. 

haha wow. 

[futureman 22469]

18 hours ago, NoName said:

i enjoyed it but to be fair i haven't seen it in years. either way, i have fond memories and need to re-watch it.

carve out an hour or two one day and you can re-watch the whole series. 

[RMac5 1551]

Really hate to hear that about Valentina’s, seems like a good dude. They went all out on their new digs, no telling what their nut is every month to keep the doors open.

[Cajun 11711]

21 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

let me tell you when beef fajitas were 99 cent / lb 

I used to get them for 79 cents per lb in SA.

[Frank The Tank 1497]

21 hours ago, NoName said:

the TV show of the same name is worth a watch. starring a young Bradley Cooper as Bourdain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen_Confidential_(TV_series)

not streaming on a normal website so hvae to sail the high seas i think

It’s interesting since Cooper went on to make the movie Burnt which seems pretty similar. 

[Biff Tannen 45691]

On 10/27/2023 at 1:52 PM, jimmyjazz said:

I've never heard of that.  Cancelled after 4 episodes.  Must have been great.

They made it again and it's called The Bear and it rules.

[Underdog 28689]

Having it this weekend… 

anyone else done the mail order? 

[DalTxHornFan 3102]

1 hour ago, Underdog said:

Having it this weekend… 

anyone else done the mail order? 

What is the sauce for?  Are you also whipping up some burgers and fries to go with the sauce?

[deft 6851]

He ordered the cryovax extra dry.

[Texasborn91 937]

14 hours ago, DalTxHornFan said:

What is the sauce for?  Are you also whipping up some burgers and fries to go with the sauce?

I don’t mind a smidge of sauce with the flat. If your are dipping your point meat you properly fucked something up. 

[Underdog 28689]

Sauce came with it. 

[UncleBuck 6454]

I've used the franklin sauce once, mixed with some other sauce to thrown on pork belly burnt ends for the sauna portion of the cook.

[Brisketexan 105152]

I don’t mind a smidge of sauce with the flat. If your are dipping your point meat you properly fucked something up. 

This. Love a fold over sammich with some slices of flat, pickles and onions, and a splash of sauce.

[TXSooner518 2438]

The sauce absolutists get tedious sometimes with their virtue signalling. All of these things can be true:

1. Good BBQ doesn't require sauce to taste good.
2. Unless absolute bottom tier, BBQ is worse when it is served slathered in sauce.
3. BBQ sauce is designed to complement the taste of smoked meat, and the occasional dipped bite, or sammich with sauce, is not some heretical crime against God's law.

[tigol 2398]

The sauce absolutists get tedious sometimes with their virtue signalling. All of these things can be true:

1. Good BBQ doesn't require sauce to taste good.
2. Unless absolute bottom tier, BBQ is worse when it is served slathered in sauce.
3. BBQ sauce is designed to complement the taste of smoked meat, and the occasional dipped bite, or sammich with sauce, is not some heretical crime against God's law.

I don’t know what the fuck “virtue signaling” in bbq is, but otherwise agree.

[deadshank 24653]

2 hours ago, Underdog said:

Sauce came with it. 

[sith_horn 2394]

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

This. Love a fold over sammich with some slices of flat, pickled jalapeños and onions, and a splash of sauce.

I agree. Fixed it for you .

[Deej 76806]

At $30+ a pound, brisket needs to be perfect without some condiment on it. 

[utee94 15825]

Properly cooked brisket flat should be moist and tender and should not need sauce any more than the point does.

And a little sauce on a foldover sandwich made from flat or point, is quite tasty.

[TXSooner518 2438]

3 hours ago, tigol said:

I don’t know what the fuck “virtue signaling” in bbq is, but otherwise agree.

People who make a big point of how they would NEVER EVER eat sauce and any plate shown with sauce or anyone having sauce with Q is some heathen akin to putting ketchup on a $100 bone-in tomahawk ribeye. 

[TXSooner518 2438]

If you don't like sauce, you just, you know, don't eat sauce. People who insist on trumpeting the above are trying to make sure everyone else knows how cool and "BBQ PURIST" they are or whatever. 

[tx 3 putt 76980]

2 minutes ago, TXSooner518 said:

If you don't like sauce, you just, you know, don't eat sauce.

[UncleBuck 6454]

17 minutes ago, utee94 said:

And a little sauce on a foldover sandwich made from flat or point, is quite tasty.

Agree....

 

.....so uh, anyone ever spread down a layer of potato salad on the bread first, or am I just too crazy & fat? If the potato salad isn't too consistently big chunky, I'll throw down a layer, then piece of brisket, pickle, onion and sauce. I've never been into the pickled jalapeno + bbq sammy thing, but I'll consider trying that.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Great bbq, no sauce. Except my Pops’ brisket and the family sauce recipe. Just the way I grew up eating it (put the sauce on rice).

Other exception for me, as others mentioned, is a sandwich. Half the time I go eat bbq I will make a mini sandwich with the white bread. The sauce is a great binding agent and adds some flavor and moisture to the white bread.

Mustard based sauce is good for dipping sausage.

I’m not a sauce hater, just not a sauce lover either. And yeah, well smoked fatty brisket should not need sauce. I won’t slap you if you put some on it though.

[UncleBuck 6454]

7 minutes ago, TXSooner518 said:

If you don't like sauce, you just, you know, don't eat sauce. People who insist on trumpeting the above are trying to make sure everyone else knows how cool and "BBQ PURIST" they are or whatever. 

My fav had always been how purist'y the folks at Kreuz used to be, especially on the travel food shows. "And we ain't'a serve no sauce by god because bbq don't need'n any sauce!!!! *next scene* "And this is our traditional pepper sauce..."

Remember when we finally went I mentioned to The Wife that "be prepared, they don't have sauce." Sure enough, they had sauce by then, lol. 

Edited November 1, 2023 by UncleBuck

[UncleBuck 6454]

4 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Great bbq, no sauce. Except my Pops’ brisket and the family sauce recipe. Just the way I grew up eating it (put the sauce on rice).

Other exception for me, as others mentioned, is a sandwich. Half the time I go eat bbq I will make a mini sandwich with the white bread. The sauce is a great binding agent and adds some flavor and moisture to the white bread.

Mustard based sauce is good for dipping sausage.

I’m not a sauce hater, just not a sauce lover either. And yeah, well smoked fatty brisket should not need sauce. I won’t slap you if you put some on it though.

Pretty much how I am, but always, to each their own. The sauce is for the sausage, maybe even mix a little with the potato salad and beans.... until the foldy/sammie, then I put some sauce on that. Cuts into the bread, plus let's not all pretend that a lot of us didn't grow up eating chopped BBQ sandos with sauce on it, so it's there in the DNA somewhere. 

Edited November 1, 2023 by UncleBuck

[HenryJames 66080]

I put some sauce on all your moms last night.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Pretty much how I am, but always, to each their own. The sauce is for the sausage, maybe even mix a little with the potato salad and beans.... until the foldy/sammie, then I put some sauce on that. Cuts into the bread, plus let's not all pretend that a lot of us didn't grow up eating chopped BBQ sandos with sauce on it, so it's there in the DNA somewhere. 

I prefer sliced brisket sandwiches. However, in my shitty opinion, it’s not a chopped beef sandwich if it’s not sauced. To me that is like ordering a pizza and telling them to hold the cheese. It is integral to a chopped beef sandwich.

[utee94 15825]

 

Just now, Patricio Swayze said:

I prefer sliced brisket sandwiches. However, in my shitty opinion, it’s not a chopped beef sandwich if it’s not sauced. To me that is like ordering a pizza and telling them to hold the cheese. It is integral to a chopped beef sandwich.

Yes, of course.  Originally the chopped beef was just the trimmings mixed with sauce, and cooked down.  That's why it's so greasy, it's mostly fat.

[UncleBuck 6454]

3 minutes ago, utee94 said:

 

Yes, of course.  Originally the chopped beef was just the trimmings mixed with sauce, and cooked down.  That's why it's so greasy, it's mostly fat.

Edited November 1, 2023 by UncleBuck

[tx 3 putt 76980]

12 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

I put some sauce on all your moms last night.

that dried up snatch needs extra sauce 

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

I bet some of yall put ketchup on hotdogs and mayonnaise on burgers. Now THOSE are crimes.

[Da Fino 2783]

26 minutes ago, UncleBuck said:

Agree....

 

.....so uh, anyone ever spread down a layer of potato salad on the bread first, or am I just too crazy & fat? If the potato salad isn't too consistently big chunky, I'll throw down a layer, then piece of brisket, pickle, onion and sauce. I've never been into the pickled jalapeno + bbq sammy thing, but I'll consider trying that.

Yeah I do this but usually with sausage instead of brisket. 

[Texzilla58 4738]

People who make a big point of how they would NEVER EVER eat sauce and any plate shown with sauce or anyone having sauce with Q is some heathen akin to putting ketchup on a $100 bone-in tomahawk ribeye. 

You want your $100 prime tomahawk well done with ketchup and Hershey syrup and tater chip crumbs? I could give a shit. Don’t care if you eat bbq with sauce, no sauce, cheese whiz, or astroglide. Dont care if you eat your eggs over easy or hard as rocks. Just keep your assholey opinions to your fucking self about what I’m eating. I know folks that don’t peel their shrimp, eat unpeeled bananas, and chug A1 like a Coke. Don’t bother me none.