Texas BBQ

[idigTexas 2330]

10 hours ago, huge said:

Pulled pork at Truth is outstanding

Valentina's is good as well. 

[Jerry Callo 8960]

1 hour ago, idigTexas said:

Valentina's is good as well. 

Micklethwait, LeRoy & Lewis, and Liberty Barbecue (John Brotherton) all have great pulled pork.

[AustinMT 952]

16 minutes ago, Jerry Callo said:

Micklethwait, LeRoy & Lewis, and Liberty Barbecue (John Brotherton) all have great pulled pork.

I have tried LeRoy & Lewis’ pulled pork, and it is the best I’ve had in Austin (other than what I make ;))

 

[Jerry Callo 8960]

Pork butt is about the easiest meat to cook, so its not something I order out a bunch.  I generally to a 11-12 pound butt and use some for pulled pork and some for carnitas.  Had carnitas last night as a matter of fact.

[AustinMT 952]

1 minute ago, Jerry Callo said:

Pork butt is about the easiest meat to cook, so its not something I order out a bunch.  I generally to a 11-12 pound butt and use some for pulled pork and some for carnitas.  Had carnitas last night as a matter of fact.

It’s typically when I’m getting an order to go, and have them throw in a half pound of pulled pork.  

[BBQ2Bayou 807]

2 pictures showing to go brisket not sliced. Is that the way to do it? Slice it when you eat it to keep the juice in? 

[PorscheGuy 127]

I ate at Helberg’s today and it was good. I don’t think Guess is as good since it moved into the permanent location.
i used to eat at Guess pretty often but not so much anymore. 

I agree Guess moved a notch down when they opened their brick and mortar location. But still best bbq in Waco. Did brunch there a few weekends ago and thought they knocked it out of park. I think they are still balancing running a profitable restaurant with still producing quality barbecue. Reed, the owner, knows how to cook.

I was not overly impressed w Helberg when I went. Thought it was overpriced would not rush to go back.


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[NoName 17148]

1 hour ago, PorscheGuy said:

I agree Guess moved a notch down when they opened their brick and mortar location. But still best bbq in Waco. Did brunch there a few weekends ago and thought they knocked it out of park. I think they are still balancing running a profitable restaurant with still producing quality barbecue. Reed, the owner, knows how to cook.

I was not overly impressed w Helberg when I went. Thought it was overpriced would not rush to go back.
 

Helberg:

• Brisket - $20 / lb
• Pork Ribs - $16 / lb
• Turkey - $16 / lb
• Sausage - $12 / lb
• Half Chicken - $12
• Sides - personal, $2.50 / pint (16 oz), $5.50 / quart (32 oz), $10 
• Chopped Beef Sandwich: $8
• Sausage Sandwich: $7

Guess:

• Brisket - $24 / lb
• Baby Back & Spare Ribs - $18 / lb
• Turkey - $20 / lb
• Sausage - $5 per link
• Half Chicken - $8.50
• Sides - 8 oz, $4 / pint (16 oz), $8 / quart (32 oz), $14 
• Chopped Beef Sandwich: $8.50
• Sausage Sandwich: $9

Guess is pretty much more expensive across the board, with the exception of the Half Chicken. I tried to pick apples to apples comparisons here. 

Both of those places are pretty close to in-line price wise with other craft BBQ spots around Texas. 

[PorscheGuy 127]

39 minutes ago, NoName said:

Helberg:

• Brisket - $20 / lb
• Pork Ribs - $16 / lb
• Turkey - $16 / lb
• Sausage - $12 / lb
• Half Chicken - $12
• Sides - personal, $2.50 / pint (16 oz), $5.50 / quart (32 oz), $10 
• Chopped Beef Sandwich: $8
• Sausage Sandwich: $7

Guess:

• Brisket - $24 / lb
• Baby Back & Spare Ribs - $18 / lb
• Turkey - $20 / lb
• Sausage - $5 per link
• Half Chicken - $8.50
• Sides - 8 oz, $4 / pint (16 oz), $8 / quart (32 oz), $14 
• Chopped Beef Sandwich: $8.50
• Sausage Sandwich: $9

Guess is pretty much more expensive across the board, with the exception of the Half Chicken. I tried to pick apples to apples comparisons here. 

Both of those places are pretty close to in-line price wise with other craft BBQ spots around Texas. 

I will clarify.  I thought it was overpriced for the quality of BBQ comparatively to Guess Family.  To me, Helberg is middle of the road at best.  I think Guess Family is far better and worth the price for good que. 

I think we can both agree on the fact Waco did not have any decent options until the last few years and am glad they both are here.  

Edited March 5, 2020 by PorscheGuy

[Royal With Cheese 3]

3 hours ago, BBQ2Bayou said:

2 pictures showing to go brisket not sliced. Is that the way to do it? Slice it when you eat it to keep the juice in? 

That is correct.

[AustinMT 952]

3 hours ago, BBQ2Bayou said:

2 pictures showing to go brisket not sliced. Is that the way to do it? Slice it when you eat it to keep the juice in? 

That is what I always do

[NoName 17148]

1 hour ago, PorscheGuy said:

I will clarify.  I thought it was overpriced for the quality of BBQ comparatively to Guess Family.  To me, Helberg is middle of the road at best.  I think Guess Family is far better and worth the price for good que. 

I think we can both agree on the fact Waco did not have any decent options until the last few years and am glad they both are here.  

interesting take - i disagree re: Helberg, but Guess is excellent...we can agree on that!

Both were in BBQ Snob's Top 25 new spots in TX: https://www.texasmonthly.com/bbq/top-25-new-barbecue-joints-texas/

 

Edited March 5, 2020 by NoName

[RMac5 1557]

Helberg’s order process is a pita as well, they ask you what sides and condiments you want before you order the Q. They place those items on the tray that goes to the cutter. The brisket was good not great, also i would have preferred they trimmed the fat down more. You can see it here in the picture.

[RMac5 1557]

Ate at Heim in FW today, preferred it over both Guess and Helberg’s. Heim has a ton of meat options. Had a half pound of lean brisket and a quarter both of turkey and black pepper sausage.

[ztejas 44227]

12 minutes ago, RMac5 said:

Ate at Heim in FW today, preferred it over both Guess and Helberg’s. Heim has a ton of meat options. Had a half pound of lean brisket and a quarter both of turkey and black pepper sausage.

My cousin used to work there. Never been though. I've heard good things - I would hope that it's at least as good as Waco's best. Pic looks fine.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Once last plead for a suggestion In the lake Jackson area. Y’all are worthless.

[SizzleChest 8314]

10 hours ago, Jerry Callo said:

Pork butt is about the easiest meat to cook, so its not something I order out a bunch.  I generally to a 11-12 pound butt and use some for pulled pork and some for carnitas.  Had carnitas last night as a matter of fact.

A blind chimp cross-bred with a potato can make good pulled pork.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

A blind chimp cross-bred with a potato can make good pulled pork.

SEC Ready

[AustinMT 952]

1 hour ago, SizzleChest said:

A blind chimp cross-bred with a potato can make good pulled pork.

Not disputing, just saying it’s been hard to find much that is good

Edited March 6, 2020 by AustinMT

[dcbc 14644]

Had some Black's brisket, ribs, and sausage shipped to me a month ago.  Tossed the brisket in the freezer and, having read the reviews about the modern era of the joint, wasn't expecting much.  But warmed it up in the sous vide, sliced it up for dinner tonight, and it was pretty solid.  Not the best I've ever had, but not bad at all.

[utee94 16088]

12 hours ago, dcbc said:

Had some Black's brisket, ribs, and sausage shipped to me a month ago.  Tossed the brisket in the freezer and, having read the reviews about the modern era of the joint, wasn't expecting much.  But warmed it up in the sous vide, sliced it up for dinner tonight, and it was pretty solid.  Not the best I've ever had, but not bad at all.

You talking original Black's in Lockhart (and not any of the various offshoots in other towns)?

If so, then I'm not sure what reviews you're reading, but it's definitely (and by far) the best brisket in Lockhart.  Kreuz is average, and Smitty's brisket is completely inedible disgusting shoe leather, which is sad because for a long time it was my favorite.

 

 

 

 

[dcbc 14644]

22 minutes ago, utee94 said:

You talking original Black's in Lockhart (and not any of the various offshoots in other towns)?

If so, then I'm not sure what reviews you're reading, but it's definitely (and by far) the best brisket in Lockhart.  Kreuz is average, and Smitty's brisket is completely inedible disgusting shoe leather, which is sad because for a long time it was my favorite.

 

 

 

 

Yes.  And I could have sworn I'd read some disappointing reviews here at some point.  At any rate, it was tender and tasty for sure.

[utee94 16088]

7 minutes ago, dcbc said:

Yes.  And I could have sworn I'd read some disappointing reviews here at some point.  At any rate, it was tender and tasty for sure.

Folks around here have certainly said Lockhart ain't what it used to be, and I'd agree.  The combination of a deterioration in quality in Lockhart (I'm looking especially at you, Smitty's) and an increase in quality of BBQ in Austin and many other cities and towns around the state, have diminished the reputation of Lockhart BBQ in general.

But Black's is still quite tasty, IMO, especially their brisket.

[Stunns38 3805]

Folks around here have certainly said Lockhart ain't what it used to be, and I'd agree.  The combination of a deterioration in quality in Lockhart (I'm looking especially at you, Smitty's) and an increase in quality of BBQ in Austin and many other cities and towns around the state, have diminished the reputation of Lockhart BBQ in general.
But Black's is still quite tasty, IMO, especially their brisket.

And their beef rib...

[HoustonHorn 1064]

City Market today was significantly better than it has been the last few trips. Sausage were on point. Brisket and ribs was solid.

 

 

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Since none of you fucks wanted to help, I ended up at the Fill Station in Lake Jackson. My pops and I ordered some brisket and sausage. Brisket was dry as fuckity fuck. There were a few fatty pieces that were actually pretty good. But 95% of what they gave us was way too dry. Flavor wasn’t bad but had to use sauce to choke it down. Sausage was as average as average gets.

[AustinMT 952]

7 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Since none of you fucks wanted to help, I ended up at the Fill Station in Lake Jackson. My pops and I ordered some brisket and sausage. Brisket was dry as fuckity fuck. There were a few fatty pieces that were actually pretty good. But 95% of what they gave us was way too dry. Flavor wasn’t bad but had to use sauce to choke it down. Sausage was as average as average gets.

That is a sad plate of Que

[Sam Lin 3598]

Definitely LDAF.

[HouTex 1942]

Had Dozier’s today. Brisket, ribs and turkey were outstanding.

[Okie State 3889]

First trip out to Dozier's since Champ took over. Everything was great, but the ribs were something else. Glad to have it close by.

 

 

[DoobieWah 1535]

40 minutes ago, HouTex said:

Had Dozier’s today. Brisket, ribs and turkey were outstanding.

 

2 minutes ago, Okie State said:

First trip out to Dozier's since Champ took over. Good stuff. Glad to have it close by.

Go on...

[tx 3 putt 78682]

9 hours ago, HoustonHorn said:

City Market today was significantly better than it has been the last few trips. Sausage were on point. Brisket and ribs was solid.

 

 

Damn that’s great to hear. Before the bbq revolution / franklin bbq trailer, that was my fave spot. Their sausage is still my fave 

[ztejas 44227]

9 hours ago, HoustonHorn said:

City Market today was significantly better than it has been the last few trips. Sausage were on point. Brisket and ribs was solid.

 

 

Love CM. Haven't been in too long. 

[Braff Zacklin 13676]

4 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

That brisket looks like a stack of crackers. Jesus. Not sure I could rep even if you had included the obligatory Big Red.

[Godzillatron 295]

Folks around here have certainly said Lockhart ain't what it used to be, and I'd agree.  The combination of a deterioration in quality in Lockhart (I'm looking especially at you, Smitty's) and an increase in quality of BBQ in Austin and many other cities and towns around the state, have diminished the reputation of Lockhart BBQ in general.
But Black's is still quite tasty, IMO, especially their brisket.

Was in Lockhart this week and was steered by the locals to Blacks. Can’t speak to the decline of the other joints but can second Black’s still holding up.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Valentina’s was goddamn excellent today. Brisket was perfect. And not being a smartass, those tortillas are so good I could probably eat a dogshit taco if it was made with their tortillas.

[tx 3 putt 78682]

That place is good 

[futureman 22701]

2 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

could probably eat a dogshit taco if it was made with their tortillas.

if you do that and post pics here I will award you one rep. 

[Deej 77827]

3 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Valentina’s was goddamn excellent today. Brisket was perfect. And not being a smartass, those tortillas are so good I could probably eat a dogshit taco if it was made with their tortillas.

Sounds like a Surly challenge is in order.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

No thanks. Sounds like something Aggy would do.

[Braff Zacklin 13676]

4 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Valentina’s was goddamn excellent today. Brisket was perfect. And not being a smartass, those tortillas are so good I could probably eat a dogshit taco if it was made with their tortillas.

[RollLeft 5090]

Has Jim started at Dozier's yet?  I had the Q there the other day and the only thing i had that resembled Jims work was the brisket.  Ribs, sausage and sides did not resemble anything I know of the man.   

[Jerry Callo 8960]

Stopped at Evie Mae's yesterday on the way to Santa Fe. Got there about 12:30 to what looked like a pretty long line. Ended up being 20 minutes because of how efficient they are.

Everything was great - brisket, burnt ends, green chilie cheese sausage, jalapeño creamed corn, jalapeño corn bread, pinto beans, baked potato casserole, and peanut butter pie.

If they're open when I'm going through Lubbock, I'm stopping.



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[immortal13 4059]

First time to try Cooper's in Llano today. It was outstanding. 

 

[TPCJ007 48]

Cooper's uses direct heat with mesquite, so is that why we don't see a smoke ring on the brisket?

[AustinMT 952]

9 minutes ago, TPCJ007 said:

Cooper's uses direct heat with mesquite, so is that why we don't see a smoke ring on the brisket?

Ahh — because there is less smoke with direct heat...

[Heisenberg 162]

On 3/14/2020 at 7:04 PM, RollLeft said:

Has Jim started at Dozier's yet?  I had the Q there the other day and the only thing i had that resembled Jims work was the brisket.  Ribs, sausage and sides did not resemble anything I know of the man.   

You need to read the whole story here and even on texasmonthly.com and chron.com.  As I understand it, Champ serving Buck's Q at Dozier's is not the gig.  Champ running the whole Dozier operation and maintaining and improving the Dozier's Q is the gig.  I've been eating at Dozier's for over 42 years.  I'll eat at Dozier's all I can manage while keeping my eyes and ears open for the next opportunity to eat Buck's Q.

[RollLeft 5090]

12 minutes ago, Heisenberg said:

You need to read the whole story here and even on texasmonthly.com and chron.com.  As I understand it, Champ serving Buck's Q at Dozier's is not the gig.  Champ running the whole Dozier operation and maintaining and improving the Dozier's Q is the gig.  I've been eating at Dozier's for over 42 years.  I'll eat at Dozier's all I can manage while keeping my eyes and ears open for the next opportunity to eat Buck's Q.

I don't need to do any of the sort.  I was clear before.  It was a simple question.  Has he started there?  Ribs were daf and parts were jerky like.  Sides are still bland.  It ate as it always has, for years, mediocre.  Besides, letting him stock the bologna i hope the olds will let go and let Jim have some real room to do what he does best.  

Edited March 17, 2020 by RollLeft

[Heisenberg 162]

If you read the sources I mentioned, you would know the exact date that Champ took over.  I'd like to see it become "Dozier's Country Market and Deer Processing featuring Buck's Barbecue" and I believe I will live to see it.  I hope the fancy plates and table service don't make it back; I'm more of a order in line and butcher paper type Q consumer.

[utee94 16088]

Table service is awesome.  Standing in line sucks.

I don't care one way or the other what the plate looks like.