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This is a crazy situation and I don't know the exact rules. The ball crossed the line of scrimmage but Brooks didn't. The ball was officially a forward pass, I think, because there was never an unintentional loss of possession (i.e., fumble). I think that this is a legal play statistically as a pass from Brooks to Williams, unfortunately.

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I think it's a legal play.

 

I also think it's rotten as fuck to take away a KU TD for a veeeery marginal hold 20 yards away from the play while ignoring OU receivers holding on the edge right in front of the runner.... like, for example, just a few snaps ago.

 

 

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1 minute ago, mdmost said:

No way that should stand. You can't rip the ball out of your own teammate's hand. He can pitch it to you but you can't just play double handoff. 

Guess many double reverses are illegal then. 

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Just now, Helobious said:

Guess many double reverses are illegal then. 

That's not a pitch nor a handoff. He ripped the ball out of his teammate's hand. 

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1 minute ago, Paul Wesley said:

I think it's a legal play.

 

I also think it's rotten as fuck to take away a KU TD for a veeeery marginal hold 20 yards away from the play while ignoring OU receivers holding on the edge right in front of the runner.... like, for example, just a few snaps ago.

 

 

So many missed holds against OU.  Water is wet.   I'll never understand how they get every break every fucking game including BS like that last play. Truly unbelievable

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Just now, Surly Bevo said:

The question I have is did he cross the line of scrimmage and then get pushed back behind it. That would have seemed to make it illegal. But it was close.

It was close, but he definitely crossed the line of scrimmage before getting pushed back.

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Just now, dcar00 said:

another hold uncalled.

It really is damn near every fucking play.  I don't understand how coaches in this conference haven't all agreed to just send in every fucking hold on tape to Bowlsby's band of dumb fucks weekly.   It's been going on for 15 years

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2 minutes ago, Baconboy said:

Does it not matter that he previously ran across the line of scrimmage? I thought once you went past the LOS you couldn't have a "forward pass".

You're not across the line of scrimmage until your entire body is past it. 

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Just now, Baconboy said:

It was close, but he definitely crossed the line of scrimmage before getting pushed back.

If he crossed line of scrimmage, than by rule that was an illegal forward hand-off...  

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Major props and respect to anyone who thought this would end any other way. I wish I still had your optimism, but I've been doing this to long, and seen it too many times to not know how it turns out. 

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The shittiest thing about the holds not getting called is that when the receivers do it, it’s so much easier to see than when it’s done on the interior of the line. They were so obvious and had an effect on the play.

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You're not across the line of scrimmage until your entire body is past it. 

Not sure that is accurate. Otherwise a QB throwing a ball that goes beyond the line of scrimmage and it gets batted back to him could legally throw it again.

Maybe you are right but line issues always seem more to be about where the ball is.

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