Hasta La Vista, Asshole. Columbian Druglord captured.

[Parliament 14337]

Colombia's most-wanted drug lord has been captured by authorities in what has been heralded as the biggest blow to the country's narcotics traffickers in decades.

Colombia's President Iván Duque Márquez confirmed the capture of Dairo Antonio Usuga, known as "Otoniel," in a televised national address Saturday.
"This coup is only comparable to the fall of Pablo Escobar in the 90s," Duque said, referring to the Colombian drug lord who died in 1993 after building a multibillion-dollar empire dealing cocaine.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/24/americas/colombia-drug-lord-otoniel-intl-hnk/index.html

[atomheartbevo 89834]

Colombia's yes, but not Columbia's.

[InkaUtexas 26175]

Won't change shit. 

[miguelito 11314]

9 hours ago, Parliament said:

the biggest blow to the country's narcotics traffickers in decades

I get it.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13528]

7 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Won't change shit. 

Yep. In fact I would bet many in his organization are ok about it. This creates mgmt openings.

[texashorne 1178]

2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Yep. In fact I would bet many in his organization are ok about it. This creates mgmt openings.

Many in his organization likely set it up. 

[NeverMarryAStripper 21948]

I'm quite sure this will end the illegal drug trade

[Guest Lobo]

Thank goodness, we caught the one guy who knew how to get narcotics into the United States.  

I mean, sure drug exports increased exponentially after Escobar's capture...but this time WE MEAN BUSINESS!  

[Brisketexan 105446]

We've finally won the war on drugs!  Creating a massive "criminal justice" apparatus, spending billions of tax dollars, and destabilizing dozens of nations was TOTALLY worth it, because now we've defeated drugs, and nobody can get them anymore!

Wait....hold on......

....you can still apparently get all the drugs you want, wherever you want.

DAMMIT, I really thought we'd gotten it done this time!

[miguelito 11314]

[conVINCEd 21469]

I’m a little uninformed about the situation on the ground in Colombia.  Does this guy get to build his own personal “prison” and have a harem of hookers keep him company while he serves his “sentence” if he’s convicted?

[OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys 2098]

It’s uncool to opine this, but you got to fight these fights. I read Hunting Leroux the other day and it really made me consider the bad things, like nation-state level bad things, are financed by the trade.  We won’t ever *win* the war, but cutting into their margins matters. 

[Doc Reeves 6434]

11 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Won't change shit. 

For the consumer, that’s for sure. But because of the violence these men use hold onto control, the entire power structure of multiple organizations has been rocked. There are a lot of members of his cartel and those on their payrolls who are about to kill each other and in the end that’s the prize the govs were working towards. 

[Parliament 14337]

23 minutes ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

It’s uncool to opine this, but you got to fight these fights. I read Hunting Leroux the other day and it really made me consider the bad things, like nation-state level bad things, are financed by the trade.  We won’t ever *win* the war, but cutting into their margins matters. 

Yeah that's where I'm at.  I'll never win the "war on weeds" in my garden.  But as soon as I stop fighting, the garden will fill up with weeds.  Sucks.

[F250 28826]

50 minutes ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

It’s uncool to opine this, but you got to fight these fights. I read Hunting Leroux the other day and it really made me consider the bad things, like nation-state level bad things, are financed by the trade.  We won’t ever *win* the war, but cutting into their margins matters. 

 

 

[ztejas 43547]

1 hour ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

It’s uncool to opine this, but you got to fight these fights. I read Hunting Leroux the other day and it really made me consider the bad things, like nation-state level bad things, are financed by the trade.  We won’t ever *win* the war, but cutting into their margins matters. 

 

38 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Yeah that's where I'm at.  I'll never win the "war on weeds" in my garden.  But as soon as I stop fighting, the garden will fill up with weeds.  Sucks.

Well, there's a difference between prosecuting cartel leaders and locking someone up for a few grams of pot. 

[Snake Diggity 4627]

Wouldn’t it be cool if scientists could develop a drug that felt better than heroin but didn’t have any harmful side effects?  Cause to me that’s the only way we “win” the drug war.

[Brisketexan 105446]

1 hour ago, Parliament said:

Yeah that's where I'm at.  I'll never win the "war on weeds" in my garden.  But as soon as I stop fighting, the garden will fill up with weeds.  Sucks.

What if your "weeding" project cost you billions of dollars, destabilized your neighbors' homes, and caused a massive erosion in the basic freedoms the members of your household are entitled to (e.g. as a metaphor -- "don't ever go out in the back yard!  I used Agent Orange!")?  And then, you also looked at the prevalence of weeds and realized that the percentage of your yard covered by weeds was 5% BEFORE you started your massive eradication program, and then after 50 years of that program, the weed coverage percentage was.....still 5%.  Still a fan of this "fight?"  Because the metaphor is spot-on.

[Nicole44 22078]

Drug lords are like the mafia of old. The pretty much are the rulers. At first they seem helpful and nice…hey they paid for my back surgery and got me a nice wheelchair and paid for fireworks for the whole neighborhood and slowly they take the trust of their neighbors to the point where you’re happy they didn’t decapitate you on your front lawn in front of your family. The war on drugs is a joke. No question but for it to be blamed solely on the consumer and America is a joke too. If you let a bunch of foxes into the chicken house you can’t solely blame everyone else when you no longer have any eggs or chickens. Our neighbors to the south slowly allowed it to happen. 

[DaggerHorns 3102]

16 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Colombia's yes, but not Columbia's.

[Homercles 10206]

1 hour ago, Snake Diggity said:

Wouldn’t it be cool if scientists could develop a drug that felt better than heroin but didn’t have any harmful side effects?  Cause to me that’s the only way we “win” the drug war.

From what I understand, heroin by itself is not particularly harmful…opiates are safely administered everyday.  
 

Obviously you risk killing yourself through overdose, and the crushing dependency of addiction means you  are chained to it forever until you go through a horrible junk-sick withdrawal…but it’s mostly the financial ruin of endlessly needing more, unknown strength/adulterants of street drugs, dealing with drug dealers, dealing with police, etc…but certain people want it that way  

Definitely not advocating heroin addiction, and unless it was added to MDMA I took two decades ago I’ve never been on horse.  But any drug with extensive euphoria is going to have some element of addiction that’s going to cripple a certain proportion of the population just through sheer inability to balance required responsibility vs wanting to be high all the time. 

Edited October 25, 2021 by Homercles

[JimmyJames 12271]

9 hours ago, Parliament said:

Yeah that's where I'm at.  I'll never win the "war on weeds" in my garden.  But as soon as I stop fighting, the garden will fill up with weeds.  Sucks.

Actually you must suck at gardening. It’s a lot easier to get rid of weeds in a garden than drugs out of America. Cheaper too.

[ztejas 43547]

6 hours ago, Homercles said:

From what I understand, heroin by itself is not particularly harmful…opiates are safely administered everyday.  
 

Obviously you risk killing yourself through overdose, and the crushing dependency of addiction means you  are chained to it forever until you go through a horrible junk-sick withdrawal…but it’s mostly the financial ruin of endlessly needing more, unknown strength/adulterants of street drugs, dealing with drug dealers, dealing with police, etc…but certain people want it that way  

Definitely not advocating heroin addiction, and unless it was added to MDMA I took two decades ago I’ve never been on horse.  But any drug with extensive euphoria is going to have some element of addiction that’s going to cripple a certain proportion of the population just through sheer inability to balance required responsibility vs wanting to be high all the time. 

Yep. Clean heroin is - physically - way better for you than booze or coke or cigarettes. 

[Homercles 10206]

3 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Yep. Clean heroin is - physically - way better for you than booze or coke or cigarettes. 

There’s a chapter in The Stand where King outlines all the ways the plague survivors kill themselves…exploding gun, locked in a freezer, electrocution setting up a generator, heart attack.  
 

The one that was always struck me as how I’d like to go out was the guy who was junk sick, acted on a rumor about where the latest package of good shit was, finds it in the toilet tank, busts the bag wide open on the bed and shoots right there in a pile of it…but it wasn’t cut for the street, was too pure, and went out like a light.  No great loss.  

[NorthLoop 14253]

8 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

What if your "weeding" project cost you billions of dollars, destabilized your neighbors' homes, and caused a massive erosion in the basic freedoms the members of your household are entitled to (e.g. as a metaphor -- "don't ever go out in the back yard!  I used Agent Orange!")?  And then, you also looked at the prevalence of weeds and realized that the percentage of your yard covered by weeds was 5% BEFORE you started your massive eradication program, and then after 50 years of that program, the weed coverage percentage was.....still 5%.  Still a fan of this "fight?"  Because the metaphor is spot-on.

Not to mention your neighbors start getting locked up for letting a few dandelions pop up in their lawn.

[cmontexas 3283]

The War on Drugs did give us Red Eye which is one of my favorite songs ever

[InkaUtexas 26175]

 

[elfenix 34339]

can the colombians capture the sacklers?

[MonkeyDoughnut 10359]

At least we'll likely get a new season of Narcos

[OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys 2098]

11 hours ago, Homercles said:

There’s a chapter in The Stand where King outlines all the ways the plague survivors kill themselves…exploding gun, locked in a freezer, electrocution setting up a generator, heart attack.  
 

The one that was always struck me as how I’d like to go out was the guy who was junk sick, acted on a rumor about where the latest package of good shit was, finds it in the toilet tank, busts the bag wide open on the bed and shoots right there in a pile of it…but it wasn’t cut for the street, was too pure, and went out like a light.  No great loss.  

Not me.  A parachute not opening.  That's a way to die.  Getting your head caught in the gears of a combine. Getting you nuts bit off by a laplander. That's how I want to go.

[Homercles 10206]

1 hour ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

Not me.  A parachute not opening.  That's a way to die.  Getting your head caught in the gears of a combine. Getting you nuts bit off by a laplander. That's how I want to go.

Yeah I want to go out like grandpa, in his sleep…not screaming like the passengers in his car.