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PenelopeWitherspoon

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I know we have this in the TV forum, but I wanted to star this here.

The third episode is fantastic.  It really talks about how the government continually bails out corporations, but helping individuals would be deemed...gasp....socialism.  

Halfway through the show, they do an "ad".  This weeks was outstanding.

 

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I don’t have Apple TV but may have to just for this. He is amazing. Just destroys this woman. I only wish he had corrected her when she kept saying “permanent” 

No mainstream providers recommend permanent treatments for pre and peripubertal kids. No surgery and hormone blockers are what they do.  Saying otherwise is nothing but fear mongering 

 

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I think that is exactly how you handle Rs. But I think this also shows that it wouldn’t matter anyway. That is exactly why we are fucked. No evidence but he can’t piss off Mango Man and his crazy followers. 

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On 10/12/2022 at 6:03 PM, Sawbonz said:

I don’t have Apple TV but may have to just for this. He is amazing. Just destroys this woman. I only wish he had corrected her when she kept saying “permanent” 

No mainstream providers recommend permanent treatments for pre and peripubertal kids. No surgery and hormone blockers are what they do.  Saying otherwise is nothing but fear mongering 

 

 

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I’ve had these arguments ad nauseam on this site since 2014.  This is exhausting. I’m glad he’s doing it but Jesus, satan and reasons these people just won’t listen and in doing so they really are terrorizing parents and kids. I was strong enough to not kill myself as a young teen, I had a morbid sense that life with unrelenting pain was better than no life at all. Not all trans kids are so lucky. 

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16 minutes ago, troph said:

I was strong enough to not Jill myself as a young teen, I had a morbid sense that life with unrelenting pain was better than no life at all. 

I was also strong enough not to Jill myself as a young teen. Jacking myself, though? Whole different ballgame.

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A good friend of my daughter from middle school came out to her family and close friends freshman year of HS. Her family and close friends were very supportive, she was at a magnet school where all the kids are artsy/eclectic etc and were pretty much accepting. Her father found her hanging in her room. Just imagine the stress on someone who can’t come out to anyone, who risks homelessness or worse if their parents find out.
 

While the loss of the child is devastating, the collateral damage to the survivors is almost immeasurable. 
 

Whatever you did not do for the least of these you did not do for me

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3 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

A good friend of my daughter from middle school came out to her family and close friends freshman year of HS. Her family and close friends were very supportive, she was at a magnet school where all the kids are artsy/eclectic etc and were pretty much accepting. Her father found her hanging in her room. Just imagine the stress on someone who can’t come out to anyone, who risks homelessness or worse if their parents find out.
 

While the loss of the child is devastating, the collateral damage to the survivors is almost immeasurable. 
 

Whatever you did not do for the least of these you did not do for me

People ask where were these trans kids back in the day? 
 

Quietly killed themselves, grew up and transitioned like me telling no one for 25-30 years wondering if anyone would ever really know them, lived a life in the shadows with a box of special clothes tucked in the attic, shoved it down and lived a life of depression and anxiety, maybe drank themselves to death… none of us happy or thriving.  When you listen to these asshole politicians understand they want us to go back to that. My feelings of rage toward them cannot be contained. There is a hell for them and all dogs and dead trans kids will go to heaven. 

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I couldn't stand Jon Stewart when he was on the Daily Show, mainly because of his delivery and the faux-indignation thing that he patented and screeching people like John Oliver took to an 11, but I've really come around on him in his third act and post-Daily Show stuff.

He has always been smart but his delivery here is a master class in deflecting an arrogant and condescending person while maintaining composure and not being overly emotional. I'd like to see ole Jonny Stew run for an office at some point. His advocacy of the rank-and-file military men has long been commendable, as well.

 

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8 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

Why am I not surprised you wouldn't have liked Stewart on the Daily Show.

He got on my nerves a bit too. I always thought he hid behind the "I'm just a comedian on basic cable" schtick whenever someone pushed back on him. 

Now he seems to be one of the best journalists (even if he's not) out there. 

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1 minute ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

I always thought he hid behind the "I'm just a comedian on basic cable" schtick whenever someone pushed back on him. 

I only remember him bringing that out when someone would try to compare/contrast him with CNN or Fox or 60 Minutes. "Dude I'm a comedian on a channel with talking puppets. I'm not the news."

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27 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I only remember him bringing that out when someone would try to compare/contrast him with CNN or Fox or 60 Minutes. "Dude I'm a comedian on a channel with talking puppets. I'm not the news."

He even referred to his program as “fake news.” Just because viewers of his show were better informed than viewers of Fox News, it didn’t make him wrong.

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He got on my nerves a bit too. I always thought he hid behind the "I'm just a comedian on basic cable" schtick whenever someone pushed back on him. 
Now he seems to be one of the best journalists (even if he's not) out there. 

It’s a valid point when the question he was getting was often some version of: “What makes you any different than the FOX News org you’re criticizing?”

In that sense, “My show is a comedy show that parodies news and shared the airwaves with South Park” is a reasonable answer.
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2 hours ago, HamsterHookah said:

He has always been smart but his delivery here is a master class in deflecting an arrogant and condescending person while maintaining composure and not being overly emotional.

He also seems to take on bigger issues (9/11 care, 2nd, govt waste).  Would have like to have seen him have a more competent adversary in his recent bout about the 2nd; the guy he got never stood a chance at debating him.   

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1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

He even referred to his program as “fake news.” Just because viewers of his show were better informed than viewers of Fox News, it didn’t make him wrong.

And that was his point. "I'm a comedian on Comedy Central and I'm taking this more seriously than you are."

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He got on my nerves a bit too. I always thought he hid behind the "I'm just a comedian on basic cable" schtick whenever someone pushed back on him. 
Now he seems to be one of the best journalists (even if he's not) out there. 
I only saw that from him when people labeled him as part of the problem or being a "dangerous person" (I think that was label Rush, or Tucker, or Hannity gave him). I thought his response of "I'm have no power, the dangerous people are the ones making decisions." was quite fair.

And if anyone has a problem with his delivery, they obviously haven't seen his Lindsey G impression.

EDIT: Others beat me to it.
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We had been overseas for about 15 years when we returned in 2003.  Stewart was the only s.o.b. speaking any semblance of the truth.  Whether real or not, he should have been indignant over the topics covered.  I’m glad he’s back on the scene.

And I do appreciate you conservatives who have learned to lend him an ear.  Some hope is better than none.  

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