[Game Thread] Texas at Baylor 11am on ABC

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1549]

Josh Moore with the fumble and dropped TD cost 10-14 points. The terrible throw to X at the 5 cost another TD.  Mistakes upon mistakes have cost UT games, could easily be 7-1. 

[BeTheBallDanny 27]

19 minutes ago, ONE YARD said:

Eh. Let him enjoy the win. Is comment is benign enough. 
 

I’m happy we won’t be helping the Waco economy anytime soon 

Someone said today that when we make our exit, the SEC will have a new bottom quartile program while simultaneously opening up a slot in the bottom half of the Big 12.  So we’ve got that going for us…

[Texaspython 231]

35 minutes ago, mattisbear said:

hey just want to say i really enjoyed the whole thread

good work team

#sicem

Goodbye and good luck 

[Fletch 5817]

26 minutes ago, ONE YARD said:

Eh. Let him enjoy the win. Is comment is benign enough. 
 

I’m happy we won’t be helping the Waco economy anytime soon 

Oh I agree. Just giving him a nice surly welcome 

[TOR 6123]

2 hours ago, mdmost said:

After the SEC announcement, you bet your ass people still love to watch us lose. 

Like the redhead playlist on xhamster.

 

Which is incredibly entertaining, btw.

[TOR 6123]

6 hours ago, RamjetFDO said:

So that's a NO GO.

[TOR 6123]

1 hour ago, Surly Bevo said:

If the culture is you have to like a player more to perform when he is on the field then yes we are truly truly fucked.  You need to respect somebody/have faith in their ability to do their job. You can love them or hate their fucking guts personally but if when it comes nut cutting time you don't respect their ability to do their job....yer all fucked.  

This is good stuff.

[TOR 6123]

7 hours ago, RamjetFDO said:

Quite possibly the best  post ever posted on The Shag.

 

I mean Surly.

[markstanco 12786]

I wonder if players remember games like this. For example, Joshua Moore. Dropping a TD pass then tipping another for an INT. That was the turning point.

[Js1 87179]

4 hours ago, mattisbear said:

hey just want to say i really enjoyed the whole thread

good work team

#sicem

Enjoy still not making the CFP from the new AAC

[Hermanator 7667]

Holy shit Tor is still alive and presumably out of prison? Or is this an imposter

[Disco Missile 456]

2 hours ago, Dr. Beeper said:

We lost that game because of Casey on three first half plays. Missed (EASY) throw to Worthy, decision to throw relatively deep when he could’ve run for 10+ on 4th down and 3 (which was an absolutely retarded play that some idiots here blamed Sark for), and his late second quarter pick.

Again, Casey is exempt from criticism. I’m not calling for him to be replaced by Card. I like him. A lot, actually. But he did NOT play a good game and despite the statistics had a net negative first half. The points left on the board that he alone is responsible for absolutely cost us the game. No individual player did more to contribute to the loss than Casey. 

Most of the problems Casey is having can be fixed with time. Unfortunately there probably isn't time to fix them.

[Knoxtnhorn 6306]

Slightly off topic.

Do y'all think Sark would have gone for 2 if TX had scored the last TD?

[Slacks 7057]

18 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Run the motherfucking ball Casey. See the bench. Or the portal. What the mother fuck are you doing 

Coach says he doesn't want QB to run. QB doesn't run.  Training.

If Casey was at ou (or Baylor, apparently), he would have kicked our ass... Easily.

[HornsOverIthaca 2339]

Sucks that the Hookem vs AirHorn dance off was the highlight of the season.

[Slacks 7057]

Just now, Knoxtnhorn said:

Slightly off topic.

Do y'all think Sark would have gone for 2 if TX had scored the last TD?

I wondered this at game time...  I would have. But coaches generally don't like to put the game on one play to get 3 yards. Anything can happen. Fumbled snap? Loss. One missed block (and miss A LOT)? Loss. Better chance to score in Redzone in OT and then get a stop.

Going for it is more entertaining

[Goredho 17652]

56 minutes ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Slightly off topic.

Do y'all think Sark would have gone for 2 if TX had scored the last TD?

I think he would have fake punted towards our own end zone.

[Hank Kingsley 21778]

7 hours ago, Disco Missile said:

Most of the problems Casey is having can be fixed with time. Unfortunately there probably isn't time to fix them.

Disagree. Bad pocket presence, slow decision making, and a below average arm is probably built in by the 4th year in a college football program. 

It's who he is. Sark needs to seriously consider putting Card back in. 

 

[Hank Kingsley 21778]

1 hour ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Slightly off topic.

Do y'all think Sark would have gone for 2 if TX had scored the last TD?

No, because he didn't go for 2 against OU in a similar position. 

[VaLonghorn99 365]

13 hours ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

Josh Moore with the fumble and dropped TD cost 10-14 points. The terrible throw to X at the 5 cost another TD.  Mistakes upon mistakes have cost UT games, could easily be 7-1. 

This plagued the last two coaches as well. In most games, Texas should able to put teams away and have a couple of close games a year. FYPM was able to do this and made it to 2 NC games. This team can certainly close out strong but looking at these familiar close losses, the low bar now is to make it to a bowl game. I hope we can beat that low bar.

 

 

[Pig Bellmont 8885]

30 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Disagree. Bad pocket presence, slow decision making, and a below average arm is probably built in by the 4th year in a college football program. 

It's who he is. Sark needs to seriously consider putting Card back in. 

 

At this point the season is over so we might as well give Card some snaps

[Disco Missile 456]

35 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Disagree. Bad pocket presence, slow decision making, and a below average arm is probably built in by the 4th year in a college football program. 

It's who he is. Sark needs to seriously consider putting Card back in. 

 

We saw the same lack of improvement with Sam, who had a high work ethic and more natural ability. Sam spoke about wanting to improve as pocket passer for 3 years, but didn't take it seriously until his senior year. That shows it was more on the player to develop than the coaches developing players.

I generally supported Herman because he was better than Strong, but Herman did not develop players well. We see that with Casey.

Edited to add that the jury is out on Sark, but I don't see much individual improvement under him either, but he hasn't been here very long. If we want to get top level recruits we'll need to prove that we can develop them into first round draft material in their time with us.

Edited October 31, 2021 by Disco Missile

[williemackgarza 1826]

Hey I feel like stabbing myself with a spoon too but that's a bit much.  Keep in mind of the 15 teams with the best chance to make the playoff, 4 are from the Big 12.  When we move we will struggle with alabama, georgia when we play them, and blowu, but the rest of the SEC is garbage.  The Big 12 top isn't as good as the SEC top teams but the average is waaaay higher.  A bad year for us in the SEC is 3 losses.

Are you high (man im jealous cause i wanna be high)? Shitty arkansas just blew our doors off. Wed be 2-6 right now in the sec.

[BurntOrange&White 41853]

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Disagree. Bad pocket presence, slow decision making, and a below average arm is probably built in by the 4th year in a college football program. 

It's who he is. Sark needs to seriously consider putting Card back in. 

 

Card does the same shit with pocket presence and slow decision making. 

[Hank Kingsley 21778]

Card does the same shit with pocket presence and slow decision making. 

Card is a RS freshman that has played less than 2 games


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[Tex Pete 21486]

3 hours ago, HornsOverIthaca said:

Sucks that the Hookem vs AirHorn dance off was the highlight of the season.

Hookem roasted AirHorn’s ass!

[hookem48 4846]

1 hour ago, Disco Missile said:

We saw the same lack of improvement with Sam, who had a high work ethic and more natural ability. Sam spoke about wanting to improve as pocket passer for 3 years, but didn't take it seriously until his senior year. That shows it was more on the player to develop than the coaches developing players.

I generally supported Herman because he was better than Strong, but Herman did not develop players well. We see that with Casey.

Edited to add that the jury is out on Sark, but I don't see much individual improvement under him either, but he hasn't been here very long. If we want to get top level recruits we'll need to prove that we can develop them into first round draft material in their time with us.

Maybe Casey is at his ceiling as a qb, hell he helps qbs at football camps and his footwork sucks.

[hookem48 4846]

29 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Card does the same shit with pocket presence and slow decision making. 

if they both do the same shit give me the guy with the stronger arm

[hookem48 4846]

4 hours ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Slightly off topic.

Do y'all think Sark would have gone for 2 if TX had scored the last TD?

without a doubt

[Enemy07 340]

Is there a lobby with pictures such as Texas woman and/or the reporter from the game. I think her name is Katie George. Asking for a friend.

[BurntOrange&White 41853]

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Card is a RS freshman that has played less than 2 games


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And Thompson has only started 6 games. Both are inexperienced and until i see this great arm of cards in an actual game it's just sunshine practice report hoopla. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26847]

Fuck everything 

[Disco Missile 456]

5 hours ago, hookem48 said:

Maybe Casey is at his ceiling as a qb, hell he helps qbs at football camps and his footwork sucks.

I see things like that and it makes me question everything.
I believed that the real nuts and bolts of coaching football was to perfect player mechanics. Right way, right results. I question that now, but if that's not what coaching is then what is it?

[Surly Bevo 25734]

3 minutes ago, Disco Missile said:

I see things like that and it makes me question everything.
I believed that the real nuts and bolts of coaching football was to perfect player mechanics. Right way, right results. I question that now, but if that's not what coaching is then what is it?

Coaching is identifying strengths and weaknesses, maximizing the strengths, and when it comes to weaknesses fixing those things that can be fixed, mitigating those things that can't.  If the last one is a bridge too far you find somebody else to coach.

Problems arise when you spend too much time/energy trying to fix things that are not going to change rather than either maximizing/mitigating/moving on.  

[bullet 1630]

24 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Coaching is identifying strengths and weaknesses, maximizing the strengths, and when it comes to weaknesses fixing those things that can be fixed, mitigating those things that can't.  If the last one is a bridge too far you find somebody else to coach.

Problems arise when you spend too much time/energy trying to fix things that are not going to change rather than either maximizing/mitigating/moving on.  

Fair, but man, you just can't throw off balance like Casey does and have any consistency.

[Surly Bevo 25734]

6 minutes ago, bullet said:

Fair, but man, you just can't throw off balance like Casey does and have any consistency.

Agreed....

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If the last one is a bridge too far you find somebody else to coach.

 

[Hank Kingsley 21778]

6 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

And Thompson has only started 6 games. Both are inexperienced and until i see this great arm of cards in an actual game it's just sunshine practice report hoopla. 

Casey Thompson is 23 years old and has been in this program for 4 years. For fuck's sake. 

For reference, Lamar Jackson is 24 years old. 

 

 

Edited November 1, 2021 by Hank Kingsley

[BurntOrange&White 41853]

11 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Casey Thompson is 23 years old and has been in this program for 4 years. For fuck's sake. 

For reference, Lamar Jackson is 24 years old. 

 

 

Bryce Young is same age as Card but doesn’t look like a chicken with his head cut off. 

[hookem48 4846]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Bryce Young is same age as Card but doesn’t look like a chicken with his head cut off. 

lol, come on dude, you think Card might look a little better with Bama?

[Hank Kingsley 21778]

10 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Bryce Young is same age as Card but doesn’t look like a chicken with his head cut off. 

Card was running for his life in the Louisiana game, and managed to show flashes and settled in as the game went on. 

Card was very bad against Arkansas, as was the rest of the team.  That was a buzzsaw game and hard to put much stock in IMO. 

That's all we have on him. Let's not forget Sark had an offseason competition and chose Card to start the season. 

 

[Had Enough 2111]

We saw the same lack of improvement with Sam, who had a high work ethic and more natural ability. Sam spoke about wanting to improve as pocket passer for 3 years, but didn't take it seriously until his senior year.

In what aspect of his game did you see lack of improvement for 3 years?

Then what makes you think he finally took it seriously his last year?

[Hermanator 7667]

At this point if Sark wants to work Card in there go ahead. We needed to see if Casey could be the guy who played the Alamo Bowl and the end of Ark/TTU games and we've now seen he is not. If he thinks Card can ever be the guy here to win with might as well get him going now and start finding out.