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Satoshi
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Horrible situation that night. He will be acquitted. The dumbest guy in all this was the one who brought a skateboard to a gun fight. The definition of FAFO

Satoshi
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Shots had already been fired at the point of the skateboard guy getting involved. So yeah it reached the level of gun fight at the point he got involved. Not sure what you don’t understand about that.

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I just want to add that I'm not here to pillory Kyle Rittenhouse. He is a fucking child. A child. I had an extensive conversation about this with a good friend of mine who is a juvenile defender by pr

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Because people are cutting the cable. But you can’t steal my artistic talents, dad!!!!!!!!!   I’m going to swarthmore!  I’m not gonna be a finance guy like you

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1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:

Probably. 
 

What I saw him now was focusing on a report that some black dude claimed to be the jump kick man Kyle shot at and missed which the prosecution then told the defense about last week. Don’t get the outrage about that yet but I’m sure the DT crowd will fill in all the necessary gaps to show how Castro killed Kennedy. 

That's a lie.  Only thing I posted was about the motion to dismiss.  Which is about the video compression issue.

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20 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

So if we ever get around to trying any of the 9/11 masterminds, I assume this judge would declare a mistrial if any of the 3,000 dead are referenced as victims. If you call them victims then you're pre-judging the defendants as guilty.

Pretty sure that only involves cases where there self-defense is an issue.  Which makes sense. 

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1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

That's a lie.  Only thing I posted was about the motion to dismiss.  Which is about the video compression issue.

Referencing post 4161 in the DT thread. I interpreted this to be discussing an alleged failure to disclose the kick jump dude since someone had just posted an article on that. If I’m wrong about your intent then I apologize. 
 

If the defense withheld exculpatory evidence until after evidence closed, a mistrial with prejudice may damn well be warranted.  I will wait to see the state's response.  But this would not be the first time those assholes fucked with Kyle Rittenhouse's constitutional rights in thistrial.

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8 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

If the defense withheld exculpatory evidence until after evidence closed, a mistrial with prejudice may damn well be warranted. 

If the defense withheld exculpatory evidence, then they've brilliantly set up an ineffective assistance of counsel argument.

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12 minutes ago, South Austin said:

If the defense withheld exculpatory evidence, then they've brilliantly set up an ineffective assistance of counsel argument.

Reminds me of Texas v. Leipold in which case the defense failed to provide any evidence of it's existence.

 

 

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All bets are off then. 
 

I tried to tell the DT crowd this was a tough case for both sides. They wouldn’t listen. Shocker. 

Well, you know, there's been no evidence to convict.

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David Henderson is a frequent guest on Shep Smith's show and he was saying that these are some of the most confusing jury instructions he's ever seen.  (He's a UT grad and lives in Dallas and I've always wondered if he posts here.)

He speculated that if there were one or two jurors who flat out refused to convict, they'd already declare a hung jury at this point.  He thinks they're working through the jury instructions.

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16 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

David Henderson is a frequent guest on Shep Smith's show and he was saying that these are some of the most confusing jury instructions he's ever seen.  (He's a UT grad and lives in Dallas and I've always wondered if he posts here.)

He speculated that if there were one or two jurors who flat out refused to convict, they'd already declare a hung jury at this point.  He thinks they're working through the jury instructions.

That’s because the Wisconsin statute on self defense was the most confusing I’d ever seen. It was and is ridiculous. 

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25 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

So I’ve always heard a long deliberation is bad news for the defendant. Is that usually true, or just something stuck in my head from the OJ trial?

It’s can be but with a high publicity trial with very long and confusing jury instructions like this one it could mean anything.

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13 hours ago, South Austin said:

This is also what attorneys do when we’re waiting in a verdict.

One time after closing the jury had a question 30 minutes later and I went and got a colleague I had tried the case with and told him we needed to get back in the courtroom ASAP. I later felt bad about it because I neglected to tell him it was just a question, not the verdict. He thought it was the actual verdict which as the plaintiff in a complicated death case would have meant we lost for sure.

The point is there is nothing more stressful for a lawyer than waiting on a jury verdict. Nothing. Not even the trial itself. Because you’re totally out of control of it. Nothing.

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One time after closing the jury had a question 30 minutes later and I went and got a colleague I had tried the case with and told him we needed to get back in the courtroom ASAP. I later felt bad about it because I neglected to tell him it was just a question, not the verdict. He thought it was the actual verdict which as the plaintiff in a complicated death case would have meant we lost for sure.
The point is there is nothing more stressful for a lawyer than waiting on a jury verdict. Nothing. Not even the trial itself. Because you’re totally out of control of it. Nothing.

The two words that cause the most outrageous cardiac activity are “jury’s back.”
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8 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

One time after closing the jury had a question 30 minutes later and I went and got a colleague I had tried the case with and told him we needed to get back in the courtroom ASAP. I later felt bad about it because I neglected to tell him it was just a question, not the verdict. He thought it was the actual verdict which as the plaintiff in a complicated death case would have meant we lost for sure.

The point is there is nothing more stressful for a lawyer than waiting on a jury verdict. Nothing. Not even the trial itself. Because you’re totally out of control of it. Nothing.

Did you bill the client while you were posting on surly?

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The two words that cause the most outrageous cardiac activity are “jury’s back.”

It’s totally true. Never been more nervous and it happens every single  time no matter the stakes. I can’t even imagine what it’s like for my clients. And we’re just talking about money there. Think about criminal defendants facing jail time. 

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