Texas Recruiting Notes 2021

[Machinator 32098]

Wells dropped the bat signal for a commit, I'm guessing it's Derrick Harris Jr.

[HtownHorn 14599]

1 hour ago, Fud said:

He thinks Milroe and Conner, and potentially Foster, give Texas an advantage for Tunmise

That pull might be even too strong for the Mighty Saban.

[texifornia 56596]

[mr. sunshine 2824]

1 minute ago, texifornia said:

fake aggy. Spelled tu wrong and exhibited critical thinking 

[Bevo 13534]

1 hour ago, Machinator said:

Wells dropped the bat signal for a commit, I'm guessing it's Derrick Harris Jr.

 

[Bruh Man 3160]

 

[Magus Ossis 2784]

Looking at numbers from this chart, we have 77 on scholarship after subtracting DmB. 25 of those are JR or SR. That leaves 33 spots over the next 2 classes, plus attrition etc. If 4-5 guys leave a year for whatever reason (historically they do) and we take 21 in 20, that leaves us about 22 spots in 21. Normally I would guess slightly higher on transfers/retirements/draftees etc, but I thought I’d start with a relatively conservative estimate.

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	Senior (11)	Junior (15)	Sophomore (18)	Redshirt freshman (12)	True freshman (22)
QB		Sam Ehlinger^		Casey Thompson^*	Roschon Johnson^
RB	Kirk Johnson	Daniel Young	Keaontay Ingram		Derrian Brown
FB
WR	John Burt Devin Duvernay Collin Johnson^		Brennan Eagles^ Joshua Moore Jordan Pouncey*	Malcolm Epps* Al'vonte Woodard*	Kennedy Lewis Bru McCoy^ Jake Smith Marcus Washington Jordan Whittington^
TE		Cade Brewer	Rob Cummins* Reese Leitao		Brayden Liebrock Jared Wiley^
OL	Parker Braun Zach Shackelford^	Tope Imade* Derek Kerstetter Denzel Okafor JP Urquidez*	Sam Cosmi Willie Tyler	Junior Angilau* Rafiti Ghirmai* Christian Jones* Reese Moore*	Isaiah Hookfin Tyler Johnson^ Javonne Shepherd
DE	Malcolm Roach	Marqez Bimage Taquon Graham Jacoby Jones^		Daniel Carson*	Peter Mpagi T'Vondre Sweat Myron Warren
DT	Jamari Chisholm D'Andre Christmas Gerald Wilbon			Keondre Coburn* Moro Ojomo*
LB	Jeffrey McCulloch	DeMarco Boyd^* Caleb Johnson^	Juwan Mitchell Joseph Ossai	Ayodele Adeoye^* Byron Vaughns*	De'Gabriel Floyd^ David Gbenda Marcus Tillman, Jr.^
CB			Kobe Boyce* Anthony Cook^ Jalen Green		Marques Caldwell Kenyatta Watson II
S	Brandon Jones	Chris Brown* Donovan Duvernay* Josh Thompson	Montrell Estell* BJ Foster^ D’shawn Jamison DeMarvion Overshown Caden Sterns^		Chris Adimora Tyler Owens
K/P/DS			Ryan Bujcevski^ Cameron Dicker

 

[satyanash 14395]

Bobby Burton on 2021 recruiting

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I'm 50-50 on taking so many commitments for 2021 this early. We've all seen what can happen when a football staff takes too many prospects too early. That was part of Mack Brown's downfall. Yet I firmly believe that this Texas staff is significantly more prepared to make personnel decisions at this stage than the Brown regime.

 

[SydneyCarton 47942]

I’m perfectly fine taking these kids this early. Herman hasn’t missed on an evaluation yet that I can recall. When that happens I’ll change my viewpoint. They’ve shown they’re way ahead of the services at finding talent. 

Also fuck Bobby burton. 

Edited August 3, 2019 by SydneyCarton
Fuck Bobby burton

[Stampeder 92]

4 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Bobby Burton on 2021 recruiting

 

Coming from a dude who was essentially Mack's mouthpiece in the media.

[Stampeder 92]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

I’m perfectly fine taking these kids this early. Herman hasn’t missed on an evaluation yet that I can recall. When that happens I’ll change my viewpoint. They’ve shown they’re way ahead of the services at finding talent. 

Same.  They appear to be very thorough on their evals and it's become very apparent you have to offer and take commits much earlier these days.

Edited August 3, 2019 by Stampeder

[texifornia 56596]

5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I’m perfectly fine taking these kids this early. Herman hasn’t missed on an evaluation yet that I can recall. When that happens I’ll change my viewpoint. They’ve shown they’re way ahead of the services at finding talent. 

Also fuck Bobby burton. 

These guys have all been pretty much no-brainers except for Davis, as well.

[Stampeder 92]

1 minute ago, texifornia said:

These guys have all been pretty much no-brainers except for Davis, as well.

Lake McRee could be argued as well, but he already had a ton of top flight offers.   

[Sabalo 994]

5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I’m perfectly fine taking these kids this early. Herman hasn’t missed on an evaluation yet that I can recall. When that happens I’ll change my viewpoint. They’ve shown they’re way ahead of the services at finding talent. 

Also fuck Bobby burton. 

Before the switch to the early signing date, it seemed Herman didn't want the kids to commit too early, then feel like they needed to look around as signing date neared. I would worry about that much more than any concern about this staff's ability to evaluate.

[Magus Ossis 2784]

3 minutes ago, texifornia said:

These guys have all been pretty much no-brainers except for Davis, as well.

Yes. I was thinking he will be a good case study in the Herman early eval/offer process.

[Fug 540]

1 minute ago, Magus Ossis said:

Yes. I was thinking he will be a good case study in the Herman early eval/offer process.

It’s tough now especially with Alabama, LSU, and Georgia putting offers for in state kids so early, Texas can’t just wait around as much

[Goodman 3273]

19 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Bobby Burton on 2021 recruiting

 

This is how you 995 Roach, it's how Fat Ketch learned to hedge everything said. Fuck you bobby bitch tits.

[Voluminous Banality 1032]

Bobby Burton has as much credibility as Chip Brown and Kurt Bohls.

[satyanash 14395]

14 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I’m perfectly fine taking these kids this early. Herman hasn’t missed on an evaluation yet that I can recall. When that happens I’ll change my viewpoint. They’ve shown they’re way ahead of the services at finding talent. 

Also fuck Bobby burton. 

I'd say Toneil Carter was a missed eval, especially since he was from Houston and all. That's the only one I can think of so far, though

[Machinator 32098]

8 minutes ago, Stampeder said:

Lake McRee could be argued as well, but he already had a ton of top flight offers.   

McRee is going to rise.

[Rickylovesweed 14248]

Carter wasn’t a missed eval. It was late in the cycle and we needed a RB. Carter was a bust but Texas had to swing at somebody and he was the most likely choice based on previous relationships. 

[Goodman 3273]

1 minute ago, satyanash said:

I'd say Toneil Carter was a missed eval, especially since he was from Houston and all. That's the only one I can think of so far, though

And that was always a flip of a coin take for the transition class, that was not a guy they were absolutely sold on. With the RB numbers they took a chance and he processed himself pretty quickly.

[SydneyCarton 47942]

4 minutes ago, satyanash said:

I'd say Toneil Carter was a missed eval, especially since he was from Houston and all. That's the only one I can think of so far, though

I thought hard before posting and decided I wasn’t going to count the transition class and the general need he had to take bodies. Because I would have said Danny Young as well, he’s well on his way to doing nothing at Texas. 

Edited August 3, 2019 by SydneyCarton

[Stampeder 92]

2 minutes ago, satyanash said:

I'd say Toneil Carter was a missed eval, especially since he was from Houston and all. That's the only one I can think of so far, though

Not sure how fumblitis can be eval'd.  I'll give them a pass on that one... we were desperate for RBs in the transition class.  Most schools would've taken him in their class without hesitation.

[Machinator 32098]

Transition classes are always going to be tough. I guess the missed "mental eval" so far is Mike Williams from 2018, but fuck LSU.

[Fug 540]

3 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Transition classes are always going to be tough. I guess the missed "mental eval" so far is Mike Williams from 2018, but fuck LSU.

Rob/Max Cummins as well

[closetojumping 62297]

4 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Carter wasn’t a missed eval. It was late in the cycle and we needed a RB. Carter was a bust but Texas had to swing at somebody and he was the most likely choice based on previous relationships. 

They had a choice between pursuing Benjamin or Carter in earnest and they made the wrong choice, and I don’t see how this is arguable. Daniel Young wasn’t part of the equation because they were taking him as TB2 no matter what. 

[Pato del Muerto 52409]

2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

They had a choice between pursuing Benjamin or Carter in earnest and they made the wrong choice, and I don’t see how this is arguable. Daniel Young wasn’t part of the equation because they were taking him as TB2 no matter what. 

They didn’t pursue Benjamin even after carter was all Georgia, that I recall. 

[Rickylovesweed 14248]

2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

They had a choice between pursuing Benjamin or Carter in earnest and they made the wrong choice, and I don’t see how this is arguable. Daniel Young wasn’t part of the equation because they were taking him as TB2 no matter what. 

True, Benjamin would have been the better take. 

[satyanash 14395]

2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

They didn’t pursue Benjamin even after carter was all Georgia, that I recall.  

[closetojumping 62297]

4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

They didn’t pursue Benjamin even after carter was all Georgia, that I recall. 

They basically slow-played Benjamin when Carter’s bro or handler indicated legitimate interest. They made a bad evaluation and a poor decision. 

[Pato del Muerto 52409]

Welp, I don’t mind being wrong, but that’s just disappointing. 

[Fud 9547]

36 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I’m perfectly fine taking these kids this early. Herman hasn’t missed on an evaluation yet that I can recall. When that happens I’ll change my viewpoint. They’ve shown they’re way ahead of the services at finding talent. 

Also fuck Bobby burton. 

As far as guys we’ve taken (outside of the transition class), I’ll go with Adeoye. I have another who I’m wondering if they missed on, but he’s 2019 and really popular, and it’s way too premature to throw him in

[SydneyCarton 47942]

1 minute ago, Fud said:

As far as guys we’ve taken (outside of the transition class), I’ll go with Adeoye. I have another who I’m wondering if they missed on, but he’s 2019 and really popular, and it’s way too premature to throw him in

I had forgotten we had our pick or eno and carter. So carter and Adeoye is another good one. Although technically he hasn’t had a shot to play yet. 2 still a pretty good hit rate. 

[Machinator 32098]

https://247sports.com/college/texas/Season/2002-Football/Commits/

Mack's heralded 2002 class. Obviously a lot of studs (and an all-timer or two) in there, but there were a decent number of misses as well.

[Thiefery 4974]

8 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

They basically slow-played Benjamin when Carter’s bro or handler indicated legitimate interest. They made a bad evaluation and a poor decision. 

Jawja RB deciding to return got Carter to come here.. meanwhile I was on the Benjamin train because he really wanted to be in Austin.  Glad he's finding success at ASU.  Will always be a fan of his.

[closetojumping 62297]

7 minutes ago, Fud said:

As far as guys we’ve taken (outside of the transition class), I’ll go with Adeoye. I have another who I’m wondering if they missed on, but he’s 2019 and really popular, and it’s way too premature to throw him in

Boy, you really hate white WRs don’t you?

[texifornia 56596]

10 minutes ago, Fud said:

As far as guys we’ve taken (outside of the transition class), I’ll go with Adeoye. I have another who I’m wondering if they missed on, but he’s 2019 and really popular, and it’s way too premature to throw him in

Put those ovaries on the table buddy. It's a safe space for bad takes.

[Handcruser 2805]

https://247sports.com/college/texas/Season/2002-Football/Commits/
Mack's heralded 2002 class. Obviously a lot of studs (and an all-timer or two) in there, but there were a decent number of misses as well.

5 5-stars. Damn.


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[Chrispy_ 105]

 

[Pato del Muerto 52409]

7 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

 

5 5-stars. Damn.


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They gave out more 5 stars back then. 

[irishtexan 11459]

5 5-stars. Damn.


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Clemson has 6 committed this year, and are likely to get Flowe for potentially 7 five-stars in one class. They are going to sign the highest rated class ever. Insane.

[closetojumping 62297]

Just now, irishtexan said:

Clemson has 6 committed this year, and are likely to get Flowe for potentially 7 five-stars in one class. They are going to sign the highest rated class ever. Insane.

It’s always a fun discussion, when it is informed, around best classes ever. The 2002 class has often been in that discussion, actually. I think the Florida State one with Neon Deion from the late 80’s and the Jesse Armstead Miami class from the late 80’s are also usually mentioned. Haven’t seen a discussion of that sort in a long time though. No doubt this Clemson class, with consideration for signing limits of 25/85, might go down as one of the all time greats too. 

[Voluminous Banality 1032]

34 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I had forgotten we had our pick or eno and carter. So carter and Adeoye is another good one. Although technically he hasn’t had a shot to play yet. 2 still a pretty good hit rate. 

Isn't Adeoye projected to start this year?

[TankedBevo 2482]

1 minute ago, Voluminous Banality said:

Isn't Adeoye projected to start this year?

Out of necessity because of Floyds spinal issue. 

 

Orlando mentioned Deles been faster and has the hips now needed to play ILB now so I hope it's not bullshit 

[sdm 847]

1 hour ago, satyanash said:

Bobby Burton on 2021 recruiting

 

Quote

I'm 50-50 on taking so many commitments for 2021 this early. We've all seen what can happen when a football staff takes too many prospects too early. That was part of Mack Brown's downfall. Yet I firmly believe that this Texas staff is significantly more prepared to make personnel decisions at this stage than the Brown regime.

How can we be certain Bobby wasn't told he should be 50-50 on taking so many commitments for 2021 this early?

Edited August 3, 2019 by sdm

[GRHorn 105]

13 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

It’s always a fun discussion, when it is informed, around best classes ever. The 2002 class has often been in that discussion, actually. I think the Florida State one with Neon Deion from the late 80’s and the Jesse Armstead Miami class from the late 80’s are also usually mentioned. Haven’t seen a discussion of that sort in a long time though. No doubt this Clemson class, with consideration for signing limits of 25/85, might go down as one of the all time greats too. 

Late 90s Miami has to be up there, retrospectively. 247 only goes back to 99 though.  

1999- Bryant McKinnie, Clinton Portis, Andre Johnson, philip Buchanon, Ken Dorsey 

2000- DJ Williams, Willis McGahee, Vince Wilfork, Jonathan Vilma 

[SydneyCarton 47942]

19 minutes ago, Voluminous Banality said:

Isn't Adeoye projected to start this year?

Eh. Maybe for a game. Maybe LSU too. 

[Atticus 3938]

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Boy, you really hate white WRs don’t you?

I figured he was talking about RJ

[texifornia 56596]

IT retweeting St. Jalen