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So Jeff Miller was  named Cy Fair head coach last week. He's not an aggy, so there's that. He graduated from Cy Fair and then went to Nebraska, and Louisiana Lafayette, and then later became the whitest graduate of Prairie View A&M ever. Does this change anything with LJ or at least Cy Fair players in general going forward?

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  On 2/25/2020 at 7:34 PM, boilerhorn said:

Given how important S&C coaches are to the day-to-day operations, why would Smart hire Cochran into a position-coach role?  It certainly will rattle the foundation of the Bama program, which has significant value to Georgia.  That said, why not also place Cochran in a position where he will have access to the players on a daily basis?

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  On 2/25/2020 at 7:45 PM, SydneyCarton said:

Probably because Cochran wanted to be a coach. 

It's Georgia. They're no stranger to flaunting the rules. I'm sure Cochran will have specific input on S&C. I'm also sure he'll have as much day to day contact as he wants with the kids, NCAA restrictions be damned because, again, SEC. 

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He looked at it pretty simply: He makes $600k now at the top of his profession. His ceiling isn't much higher on that. He's ambitious enough to want to be a head coach, and if he achieves that level, his returns would dwarf what he could reasonably expect to make otherwise. It wasn't only about money, but the gap in compensation was too wide to be ignored and he was approached about on the field roles every offseason. He finally decided to make the leap. 

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  On 2/25/2020 at 9:41 PM, Viper said:

So Jeff Miller was  named Cy Fair head coach last week. He's not an aggy, so there's that. He graduated from Cy Fair and then went to Nebraska, and Louisiana Lafayette, and then later became the whitest graduate of Prairie View A&M ever. Does this change anything with LJ or at least Cy Fair players in general going forward?

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Cy Fair players going forward, quite possibly. I don't know anything about this guy, so I'm just wish casting, but you can't imagine he's going to be pushing kids to aTm. He can try to push them to Nebraska all he fucking wants, or La Lafayette. Maybe he's a closest Ag, though considering hes a part of the aTm system, though. I would also keep an eye on how much staff turnover there is over the next couple years. Have to think most of that staff is staying intact for now.

As for LJ, can't think it matters at all. Miller isn't going to come in being pro UT, and his current fascination with Georgia doesn't seem likely to be tempered by this. UT needs to pick up their fucking efforts on him, to be frank. They're pussyfooting around and not treating him like he's running back 1A in the class. 

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  On 2/25/2020 at 10:01 PM, Ricky's one-hitter said:

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Looking likely to be King instead of Arroyo for the other TE spot as of now.  Turner looks like an eventual DT.

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  On 2/25/2020 at 9:41 PM, Viper said:

So Jeff Miller was  named Cy Fair head coach last week. He's not an aggy, so there's that. He graduated from Cy Fair and then went to Nebraska, and Louisiana Lafayette, and then later became the whitest graduate of Prairie View A&M ever. Does this change anything with LJ or at least Cy Fair players in general going forward?

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Jeff Miller was our OC at Bay City under Warren Trahan (Aggie alum). QB was Texas special teams legend  Beau Trahan. Miller made a move when Chad Morris (Aggie) took over the Bay City job in 2000. He has coached under some Aggie grads but don't remember him being a red ass hardcore whoooper. 

 

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(Class non-predictions from Roach.)

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  On 2/26/2020 at 12:49 AM, Blackcat00 said:

Jeff Miller was our OC at Bay City under Warren Trahan (Aggie alum). QB was Texas special teams legend  Beau Trahan. Miller made a move when Chad Morris (Aggie) took over the Bay City job in 2000. He has coached under some Aggie grads but don't remember him being a red ass hardcore whoooper. 

 

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Trahan was Millers high school coach. The Cy fair team was the one that let (can't remember the team) score because it was the only chance Cy Fair had due to the old penetrations rule. And lots of guys get a master's from PV purely for the convenience,  especially before the proliferation of online plans (referring to the mention above)

And pretty safe bet that if Miller went to Nebraska in the mid late 80s, then aggy probably offered

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  On 2/25/2020 at 10:01 PM, Ricky's one-hitter said:

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Regarding the comment about Quay Davis, Mike Farrell has brought him up a couple times recently in articles about possible recruiting surprises. 

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  On 2/26/2020 at 2:54 AM, rvm96 said:

Regarding the comment about Quay Davis, Mike Farrell has brought him up a couple times recently in articles about possible recruiting surprises. 

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He goes to a DISD school, he's got a kid, he's decommitted before, he's not exactly pinging all the "nice clean quiet recruitment" boxes

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  On 2/26/2020 at 1:52 AM, Getafix said:


Four-star RB Camar Wheaton, Garland Lakeview Centennial


Height/Weight: 5-11, 190


2019 Stats: 1,142 yards, 15 touchdowns


247Sports Rating: No. 42 overall


Wheaton is one of the top big play threats in the state of Texas with the ability to score from anywhere on the field. Wheaton is extremely quiet and doesn’t speak with the media much, but the buzz around his recruitment surrounds Oklahoma, Alabama, LSU, SMU and Texas. Sources near Wheaton’s recruitment indicated he might want to stay close to home, but nobody has a clear handle on where Wheaton appears to be heading.

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Well that’s one way to put it 

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  On 2/25/2020 at 10:15 PM, SydneyCarton said:

Cy Fair players going forward, quite possibly. I don't know anything about this guy, so I'm just wish casting, but you can't imagine he's going to be pushing kids to aTm. He can try to push them to Nebraska all he fucking wants, or La Lafayette. Maybe he's a closest Ag, though considering hes a part of the aTm system, though. I would also keep an eye on how much staff turnover there is over the next couple years. Have to think most of that staff is staying intact for now.

As for LJ, can't think it matters at all. Miller isn't going to come in being pro UT, and his current fascination with Georgia doesn't seem likely to be tempered by this. UT needs to pick up their fucking efforts on him, to be frank. They're pussyfooting around and not treating him like he's running back 1A in the class. 

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We are talking about Drayton, he very well could be recruiting him like RB1A and no one could tell. 

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  On 2/25/2020 at 5:30 PM, closetojumping said:
Since I guess this is the thread where you hillbillies have chosen to discuss the Bama S&C coach, Cochran, leaving, I'll post an update here. I spoke with a good friend who is also very close to Cochran today. It's a big deal, all the way around. Anyone dismissing that is an uninformed idiot or spinning. It's also not a move because the guy is buddies with Kirby Smart. That's so reductive that it isn't even worth further addressing. 
Also, Swinney might get a call in a year or two when Saban is gone, but the assumption is that Cristobal would be the guy. I view Mario Cristobal as a barely functioning idiot on par with Tom Herman, so I'd celebrate that hire. It would be Kirby Smart 2.0. Maybe either guy figures out the strategic aspects of the game and they start winning titles, but right now both look like two dipshits that can and will cheat their asses off and then cross their fingers that they can simply out-talent everyone they play. 
I spent my last $9.95 on lunch today, otherwise i'd..umm, you know
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  On 2/25/2020 at 10:06 PM, closetojumping said:

 

He looked at it pretty simply: He makes $600k now at the top of his profession. His ceiling isn't much higher on that. He's ambitious enough to want to be a head coach, and if he achieves that level, his returns would dwarf what he could reasonably expect to make otherwise. It wasn't only about money, but the gap in compensation was too wide to be ignored and he was approached about on the field roles every offseason. He finally decided to make the leap. 

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The other thing to note, that I had no clue about, was that he is about to be 41 - so still pretty young in the scheme of things...

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  On 2/26/2020 at 2:33 PM, Elmer_Fudd said:

ESPN 300 updated.

Sanders up from #123 to #53 (probably gets him composite 5*)

Bowman up from #125 to #89.

Shemar Turner now in the 300 at #234

James Brockermeyer up to #102

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2021/order/true

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Not that he isn't a take, but the JBrock hype train appears to have accelerated out of control. 

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  On 2/26/2020 at 2:42 PM, texifornia said:

Not that he isn't a take, but the JBrock hype train appears to have accelerated out of control. 

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It happens with package deals sometimes... Tim Cole's ranking only got as high as it did because he and Malcom Brown were a package deal coming out of Brenham.

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  On 2/26/2020 at 2:33 PM, Elmer_Fudd said:

ESPN 300 updated.

Sanders up from #123 to #53 (probably gets him composite 5*)

Bowman up from #125 to #89.

Shemar Turner now in the 300 at #234

James Brockermeyer up to #102

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2021/order/true

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They have Shedeur Sanders, Deon's kid, as the #3 prospect in the state. Very transparent, ESPN

They have Donovan Jackson at #16 and Bryce Foster at #27 in the state. While I think both are overrated as top ten in the country types, this is overcorrecting by way too much 

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  On 2/26/2020 at 3:09 PM, satyanash said:

It happens with package deals sometimes... Tim Cole's ranking only got as high as it did because he and Malcom Brown were a package deal coming out of Brenham.

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His junior hudl looked really good, and then he balled out at a camp shortly after, I think it was the UA Future 50? 

He's a legitimately very good prospect

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  On 2/26/2020 at 3:15 PM, Fud said:

They have Shedeur Sanders, Deon's kid, as the #3 prospect in the state. Very transparent, ESPN

They have Donovan Jackson at #16 and Bryce Foster at #27 in the state. While I think both are overrated as top ten in the country types, this is overcorrecting by way too much 

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Shemar Turner seems like a guy that's going to keep moving up.  I bet he tests well at camps, and his hudl looks good IMO playing both DE and DT.  Eventual DT IMO, and that's fine.

 

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  On 2/26/2020 at 3:09 PM, satyanash said:

It happens with package deals sometimes... Tim Cole's ranking only got as high as it did because he and Malcom Brown were a package deal coming out of Brenham.

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  On 2/26/2020 at 3:17 PM, Fud said:

His junior hudl looked really good, and then he balled out at a camp shortly after, I think it was the UA Future 50? 

He's a legitimately very good prospect

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sarvanaash is either making a hyperbolic comparison because he's emotional, or he's simply incapable of understanding the gap in talent between what we see with James Brockermeyer vs Tim Cole. Either premise is believable to me, and he's wrong either way. 

Whatever the criticisms of Brockermeyer's size or flexibility, he's easily one of the top 3-5 center prospects in the country. That's a top 75-150 player nationally, in my mind. I don't know what the history of player rankings would say to confirm or dispute that view.

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  On 2/26/2020 at 4:19 PM, closetojumping said:

 

Whatever the criticisms of Brockermeyer's size or flexibility, he's easily one of the top 3-5 center prospects in the country. That's a top 75-150 player nationally, in my mind. I don't know what the history of player rankings would say to confirm or dispute that view.

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James would be the best center prospect Texas has landed since?

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  On 2/26/2020 at 4:21 PM, Fud said:

James would be the best center prospect Texas has landed since?

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I'd say Sendlein. I don't remember how he was classified, but that is how they viewed him. I also don't remember his rank, which was, ironically, probably punished because he was a legacy with a brother already at Texas and therefore irrelevant to the national recruiting landscape, but I'm guessing it was 300 or lower. Go watch that HS film though. I guess I don't know if it is still available but he and several of those other guys in that class were nasty on film. Studdard, another legacy, I think was in the same class and his film was violent. Blalock. Damn. Give me something like again.

C has been an issue for the most part since Mack Brown's first year forward. Tim Nunez and Greg Davis passed on several guys that would become standouts at center in college. I remember Greg Barnum being the first whiff. He immediately started as a FR on a damned good Tennessee team. There were multiple guys like that. Barnum was not an unknown and Texas didn't even offer the fucking guy. 

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Blair Anguilo has a topic on 247 saying OL Bram Walden will visit in the spring.  Will be interesting to see how it plays out if the 2 Arizona OL want to eventually commit before any of the Texas OL.

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  On 2/26/2020 at 4:19 PM, closetojumping said:

sarvanaash is either making a hyperbolic comparison because he's emotional, or he's simply incapable of understanding the gap in talent between what we see with James Brockermeyer vs Tim Cole. Either premise is believable to me, and he's wrong either way. 

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There are two things you can say positively about Tim Cole: 1) he came to Texas with Malcom Brown, and 2) in high school, he had a reputation as one of the hardest working guys around.

That is not enough in the "plus" column to justify comparing him to a legit take with a legacy bloodline, who has wowed a lot of people on the camp circuit, and who has a big-brother sized chip on his shoulder for being disrespected in spite of relatively high ranking. So, yeah, I'm gonna agree that there are probably about 30,000 better comparisons that could have been made.

That having been said, don't let Sarvomahindra's fundamental douchiness and usual wrongness cloud your judgment about any individual take: they can just be, you know, bad, without being indicative of anything worse. He'll come up with something else much more offensive by the end of the day, if history is any judge. This was a relatively mild misstep, given the record.

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  On 2/26/2020 at 5:51 PM, Elmer_Fudd said:

Well Anguilo posted that and then crystal balled him to Oregon.

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From Rivals

https://247sports.com/Player/TreVeyon-Henderson-46049087/

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  On 2/27/2020 at 1:48 AM, Walden Ponderer said:

Oh yeah? Well, they're both dropping rapidly in the Luigi 44, so there!

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Sanders does appear to be their token "ok, well he's pretty good" guy in the class (though of course Crownover is being criminally underrated by the sip media). Bowman is absolutely going to get slotted behind Harmon or whoever they take if he goes to Notre Dame.

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