Texas Recruiting Notes 2021

[Ricky's one-hitter 9262]

Suchomel is saying Texas told Jalon Williams they plan to take 3 corners. He also says that Jalon really likes BC. Former SGP staffer up there, I guess. 

 

[Hiphopopotamos 20910]

2 minutes ago, satyanash said:

If we seriously brought Yurcich in just to run the same offense, Herman will have been wasting everyone's time.

Yurcich can and should be given leeway to run his own offensive scheme. Otherwise he'll be about as useful as Tim Beck was last year,

I think Burt's point is that Yurcich and Herman run the same smashmouth spread.  The offense isn't changing - though the game-planning and play-calling most certainly are.

[Fud 9581]

Herman's offensive playbook has most of everything from the high flying offenses we all love to watch. The issues were vanilla gameplans and conservative playcalling. Yurcich will mostly run plays within Herman's offense, plays which mostly appear in the other big time offenses, with some tweaks. But he'll gameplan better and attempt to actually win with x's and o's, which Herman has always believed were less important than imposing our will. 

The 2021 draft happens after the Brocks sign. There will be more current mock drafts, but how Cosmi plays against LSU and OU, and more than that, how the team does in those games, will ultimately determine whether or not we flip them from Bama. 

[SydneyCarton 48534]

2 hours ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

 

 

I hope this is for a bigger position. Otherwise WTF. 

[Burt Macklin 19149]

20 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

To be fair, Connor Williams was assumed to be a first-round LT in pretty much every mock draft before the season started. I hate defending Satya, but I had the same thought about presuming Cosmi to be a first-round pick before he's played a snap of his Jr season. I should expect it though because counting chickens before they hatch is just a thing that our fanbase does. 

I was only talking about the bolded part. 

18 minutes ago, Longhorn94 said:

I think this is an understatement. I think the scheme will be a lot different. I think it will be more multiple, focused on vertically attacking the defense.

Do you think Y's scheme is the same as Herman's? Or do you think Herman will force Yurcich to use Herman's offense?

I’m not convinced Herman is going to let go fully, and while Yurcich does attack more vertically, he still runs a zone-based scheme with a ton of similarities to Herman’s so with the same offensive HC, still a similar zone-based scheme, and the same OL coach, I don’t see a whole lot of adjustments or significant changes for the OL that would meaningfully alter Cosmi’s performance. 
 

16 minutes ago, satyanash said:

If we seriously brought Yurcich in just to run the same offense, Herman will have been wasting everyone's time.

Yurcich can and should be given leeway to run his own offensive scheme. Otherwise he'll be about as useful as Tim Beck was last year,

Again, Yurcich and Herman’s systems aren’t drastically different, especially not from a blocking technique perspective. 
 

Also, you’re full of shit, Herman should and may give Yurcich full control, but even if he doesn’t, having Yurcich  game plan and call plays within Herman’s offense would still be a massive upgrade over Beck. 

Edited July 2, 2020 by Burt Macklin

[Goodman 3274]

23 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

To be fair, Connor Williams was assumed to be a first-round LT in pretty much every mock draft before the season started. I hate defending Satya, but I had the same thought about presuming Cosmi to be a first-round pick before he's played a snap of his Jr season. I should expect it though because counting chickens before they hatch is just a thing that our fanbase does. 

To be fair, no one watching this team ever thought Connor was a 1st round LT.

[Sgt. Slaughter 2851]

48 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

To be fair, Connor Williams was assumed to be a first-round LT in pretty much every mock draft before the season started. I hate defending Satya, but I had the same thought about presuming Cosmi to be a first-round pick before he's played a snap of his Jr season. I should expect it though because counting chickens before they hatch is just a thing that our fanbase does. 

Connor also missed 7 games that season.

[IDIOTsavant 8555]

4 minutes ago, Sgt. Slaughter said:

Connor also missed 7 games that season.

And didn't have Cosmi's measurables...and still went mid-second round. It's not like he fell too far.

[Fud 9581]

7 minutes ago, Sgt. Slaughter said:

Connor also missed 7 games that season.

The two things I remember about Connor's last year are playing terrible against Maryland, and playing great while injured against WVU 

Edited July 2, 2020 by Fud

[Longhorn94 2458]

36 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

 

I’m not convinced Herman is going to let go fully, and while Yurcich does attack more vertically, he still runs a zone-based scheme with a ton of similarities to Herman’s so with the same offensive HC, still a similar zone-based scheme, and the same OL coach, I don’t see a whole lot of adjustments or significant changes for the OL that would meaningfully alter Cosmi’s performance. 

That's fair. And I agree with respect to Cosmi.

[Longhorn94 2458]

35 minutes ago, Goodman said:

To be fair, no one watching this team ever thought Connor was a 1st round LT.

I thought he was but I think Cosmi is better. 

[texifornia 57558]

Hand starting following a Canadian '21 who's committed to a POWERHOUSE program. Carl could be on to something.

https://247sports.com/player/albert-reese-46052559/

Spoiler

 

Edited July 2, 2020 by texifornia

[UDontKnow 10515]

13 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Hand starting following a Canadian '21 who's committed to a POWERHOUSE program. Carl could be on to something.

https://247sports.com/player/albert-reese-46052559/

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He has offers from Arizona State, Oklahoma State, and WVU...yet is committed to Rutgers.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18677]

2 hours ago, Fud said:

Finally watched Myslinki. First of all, he's really good in the run game (needs work in pass pro, but has the athleticism for it). He plays hard and nasty, although he has a bad habit of holding unnecessarily. How good is his competition? How big is he, and will he keep his pretty good athleticism when he's at his playing weight? As others have pointed out, how maxed out is he considering his dad played in the NFL for nine years? It's funny, we never hear about those concerns with the Brockermeyers 

I've been thinking it for awhile, but I didn't want to post it because it comes off like sour grapes if you're reading the tea leaves. But objectively, the red flags are there: NFL father / college coach or analyst or whatever, spending the Covid days training his kids, and then becomes an assistant coach on their high school team. A private north Texas parochial high school team at that. And Tommy missed his entire junior season with an injury. If they weren't legacies, then I think there would be more discussion about this.

OL is the most difficult position to project from high school, anyway IMO.  The services have been historically bad at their OL evals, especially in comparison to other positions. I've seen too many camp warriors who are maxed out and never make the leap as their competition improves and ages. Or maybe I've just been soured by the long and distinguished list of 4 and 5 star OL busts that UT has endured over the last decade? There are few freaks of nature that stand out, guys like Leonard Davis, but for the most part it seems like a crapshoot when the $9.95ers do their OL evals.

Bag on Herman for a lot of things, and he will get shit on massively around here if/when the Brocks take their talents to Tuscaloosa, but he hasn't been a star fucker on the OL and he's rebuilt that room from the ground up into a strength. Whatever metrics they are using to evaluate high school linemen seem to be working. 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20701]

2 hours ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

Yeah, Reggie White? Come on man...don't do that...

 

Well SOMEBODY has to come along and be better than Reggie White.  Why not Alfred?

[RGBIII 22843]

 

[Viper 12160]

1 minute ago, RGBIII said:

 

I would expect a few more of these. Wonder what will constitute "real action"

[texifornia 57558]

3 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

 

Why are the two guys on the team who always make big sweeping "well then I'm not playing" statements also our two starting LBs? Sigh.

[UncleBuck 6455]

9 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

 

"It's been 3 whole long weeks and 100 years of things have not yet been wiped off the earth!"

And I wouldn't say that Maya Moore "sat out." She was actually getting shit done. Hope you do the same, 'Shown. 

Edited July 2, 2020 by UncleBuck

[Ryno 130]

2 minutes ago, UncleBuck said:

"It's been 3 whole long weeks and 100 years of things have not yet been wiped off the earth!"

A lot of those things they mentioned should have been wiped off the earth about 3 whole decades ago. Asking for a little urgency now isn’t the worst thing...

[IDIOTsavant 8555]

I expect that this will happen across the country, and I'm curious how this will be handled regarding scholarship benefits. Obviously, I'm most invested with what happens here, but also watching nationally.

[EZ$ 2107]

He really doesn’t want to play LB does he....

[UncleBuck 6455]

1 minute ago, Ryno said:

A lot of those things they mentioned should have been wiped off the earth about 3 whole decades ago. Asking for a little urgency now isn’t the worst thing...

It'd be fine if it were only up to CDC, or Tomothy. It's not. Logistically three weeks just isn't a lot. Would be interesting to know what the players are being told. 

[IDIOTsavant 8555]

1 minute ago, UncleBuck said:

It'd be fine if it were only up to CDC, or Tomothy. It's not. Logistically three weeks just isn't a lot. Would be interesting to know what the players are being told. 

I'd more interested in hearing what Overshown heard. Communicating across multiple demographics (age, race, etc) can morph even a direct message. We need to be actively trying to understand how the message is being received. Genuine intentions mean nothing if they're seen as disingenuous.

[Dijon Robinson 1511]

6 minutes ago, Ryno said:

A lot of those things they mentioned should have been wiped off the earth about 3 whole decades ago. Asking for a little urgency now isn’t the worst thing...

I don't disagree but CDC's kinda got his hands full trying to figure out how to host a football season in the middle of a pandemic

[UncleBuck 6455]

1 minute ago, IDIOTsavant said:

I'd more interested in hearing what Overshown heard. Communicating across multiple demographics (age, race, etc) can morph even a direct message. We need to be actively trying to understand how the message is being received. Genuine intentions mean nothing if they're seen as disingenuous.

Very true.

To me, reading his statement a few times, it seems like he's just upset nothing has happened yet, and is making his play to force change. Wish we knew more. 

[UncleBuck 6455]

1 minute ago, ChampionshipLevelPiss said:

I don't disagree but CDC's kinda got his hands full trying to figure out how to host a football season in the middle of a pandemic

Not only that, but CDC can't do a whole lot himself. Boosters will be involved, the University. It goes beyond the athletic department. 

[texifornia 57558]

3 minutes ago, UncleBuck said:

Not only that, but CDC can't do a whole lot himself. Boosters will be involved, the University. It goes beyond the athletic department. 

If the big boosters have even close to the zero-to-butthurt speed of Blake Brockermeyer, I'm sure they'll handle being pressured really well.

Edited July 2, 2020 by texifornia

[IDIOTsavant 8555]

Just now, UncleBuck said:

Not only that, but CDC can't do a whole lot himself. Boosters will be involved, the University. It goes beyond the athletic department. 

Quick, somebody fire up Parks and Rec on Hulu. We need to screen it for the team as an introduction to the wonderful world of government/bureaucracy. Seriously though, this was always going to move slower than they wanted.

[IDIOTsavant 8555]

Just now, texifornia said:

If the big boosters have even close to the zero-to-butthurt speed of Black Brockermeyer, I'm sure they'll handle being pressured really well.

Unfortunate typo given the current climate

[Ricky's one-hitter 9262]

1 minute ago, UncleBuck said:

Very true.

To me, reading his statement a few times, it seems like he's just upset nothing has happened yet, and is making his play to force change. Wish we knew more. 

They need to publicly announce the statues coming down and which buildings can be renamed quickly. They also need to tell the band to learn the Gucci Mane trap Eyes, now. It's been 3 weeks. This is not hard. Had they already done that, they could have bought time to deal with the rest. Doing nothing buys no time.

[UncleBuck 6455]

2 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

Unfortunate typo given the current climate

whoa-oh black brocky bama-lamb

[golfclap 6903]

1 minute ago, texifornia said:

Why are the two guys on the team who always make big sweeping "well then I'm not playing" statements also our two starting LBs? Sigh.

I'm impressed that Overshown is willing to use his voice and possibly a year or more of his NCAA eligibility, for change. The world needs to change. 

Having said that, both he and Juwan Mitchell are in an absolute dogfight simply to stay on the 2-deep at a position that isn't especially deep - which is extremely telling. I don't think either of them are keeping Gbenda or Tillman off the field at this point. Not even factoring Adeoye, Jacquess - or the fact that I truly think we'll see Adimora and Foster both on the field in a lot of alignments, making the impact of their potential loss even less. 

I absolutely hate it for depth, I really do, and it makes the injury situation at LB scary but I think labeling either Mitchell or Overshown as "starter" is a stretch. Anthony Cook wasn't going to be a starter either, and likely was going to be in a dogfight to stay on the 2-deep. 

[UncleBuck 6455]

5 minutes ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

They need to publicly announce the statues coming down and which buildings can be renamed quickly. They also need to tell the band to learn the Gucci Mane trap Eyes, now. It's been 3 weeks. This is not hard. Had they already done that, they could have bought time to deal with the rest. Doing nothing buys no time.

You said it.... "they" 

 You gotta get a buncha "theys" on the same page. Three weeks. Who knows how far they've gotten or not. 

But, Overshown + some could force to get the ball rolling a lot faster. 

Edited July 2, 2020 by UncleBuck

[IDIOTsavant 8555]

3 minutes ago, UncleBuck said:

You said it.... "they" 

 

 You gotta get a buncha "theys" on the same page. Three weeks. Who knows how far they've gotten or not. 

Not to mention the fact that Covid is currently wrecking shop on revenues and the state budget going forward. This is absolutely a priority, and for the players most likely their main priority, but the University as a whole, it is one of many. Some of which have become extremely pressing. I don't envy our administration at all right now.

Edited July 2, 2020 by IDIOTsavant

[Ricky's one-hitter 9262]

Just now, UncleBuck said:

You said it.... "they" 

 

 You gotta get a buncha "theys" on the same page. Three weeks. Who knows how far they've gotten or not. 

The football friendly interim (not for long) president of the University could push these changes through in 3 weeks, no question. The team is pushing the University to do what is right and it sounds like the players are hearing, "we want to, but...". If Mississippi can announce they're changing their fucking state flag (!!!) in 3 weeks, Texas can rename some buildings. 

[Elmer_Fudd 22708]

Hope we are looking to take 3 LB's.  Blackwell, Cooks + hopefully a Jaydon Williams flip.  Not sure who else would be realistic that we've offered, maybe could get Bryce Steele on campus in the fall.

[satyanash 14932]

Tillman got hurt early, so he may turn out to be a diamond in the rough we desperately need this season. But Gbenda was flat-out terrible against Kansas. He got the start and was benched by the 2nd quarter. If Mitchell and Overshown are (were) seriously that far behind him before practice's even started, that's a really bad situation.

Wonder if Vaughns or (god-forbid) Ossai gets shifted back to LB.

Edited July 2, 2020 by satyanash

[UncleBuck 6455]

1 minute ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

The football friendly interim (not for long) president of the University could push these changes through in 3 weeks, no question. The team is pushing the University to do what is right and it sounds like the players are hearing, "we want to, but...". If Mississippi can announce they're changing their fucking state flag (!!!) in 3 weeks, Texas can rename some buildings. 

I dunno, apparently there is question, because he hasn't done it. I guarantee you a football friendly president, CDC, they'd all make those changes right now if it were up to them. 

And Mississippi isn't announcing that they're changing their flag after just three weeks, that has been a burning issue for years now. UT is who's on the three weeks. 

[Hiphopopotamos 20910]

7 minutes ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

The football friendly interim (not for long) president of the University could push these changes through in 3 weeks, no question. The team is pushing the University to do what is right and it sounds like the players are hearing, "we want to, but...". If Mississippi can announce they're changing their fucking state flag (!!!) in 3 weeks, Texas can rename some buildings. 

This.  Interim and CDC should have committed to making the changes 2 weeks ago when they met with athletes/students.  Schools across the country are making these changes and Texas is standing there with its dick in its hand.

[LTtxfan 49459]

13 minutes ago, UncleBuck said:

You said it.... "they" 

 You gotta get a buncha "theys" on the same page. Three weeks. Who knows how far they've gotten or not. 

But, Overshown + some could force to get the ball rolling a lot faster. 

"Yah gotta get a bunch of BB's back in the box..."

 

FIFY

[texifornia 57558]

1 minute ago, UncleBuck said:

I dunno, apparently there is question, because he hasn't done it. I guarantee you a football friendly president, CDC, they'd all make those changes right now if it were up to them. 

And Mississippi isn't announcing that they're changing their flag after just three weeks, that has been a burning issue for years now. UT is who's on the three weeks. 

It's also easier to make changes when the initial thing is so public and flat-out obviously racist that it's actually hurting your state's economy. If it's meaningless, it's ironically harder to do.

[Hiphopopotamos 20910]

1 minute ago, UncleBuck said:

I dunno, apparently there is question, because he hasn't done it. I guarantee you a football friendly president, CDC, they'd all make those changes right now if it were up to them. 

And Mississippi isn't announcing that they're changing their flag after just three weeks, that has been a burning issue for years now. UT is who's on the three weeks. 

Students on campus have been bitching about this shit for years - but no one cared until 3 weeks ago - just like the Mississippi state flag issue.  But Mississippi got the flag changed before Texas could commit to taking down one statue or renaming one building.

[IDIOTsavant 8555]

1 minute ago, texifornia said:

It's also easier to make changes when the initial thing is so public and flat-out obviously racist that it's actually hurting your state's economy. If it's meaningless, it's ironically harder to do.

I'd probably say more symbolic than meaningless. Certainly tangible things move the needle quicker, but to the group asking for the changes, they aren't meaningless.

[Fud 9581]

At this point, it seems like there's a decent chance we don't even have football this fall. Which makes my give-a-shit meter about things like this the lowest it's been since I started following Texas. Overshown can not take part in activities that could help him potentially make millions of dollars down the road out of principle, but he should realize that every football school worth a shit will have the same stuff if you look hard enough if he decides to transfer. Now, if he quits or transfers to a HBCU, then that's admirable. But somehow I doubt he'll do that. 

[UncleBuck 6455]

12 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Students on campus have been bitching about this shit for years - but no one cared until 3 weeks ago - just like the Mississippi state flag issue.  But Mississippi got the flag changed before Texas could commit to taking down one statue or renaming one building.

We're not talking about students, I'm talking about the team, who this is about, and them bringing it up three weeks ago for the first time.  I've been hearing about the Mississippi flag for years, with multiple movements to have it removed. 

It'd be different if this were two months down the line. It's been three weeks. You got a lot of people involved in these decisions, and some you're gunna have to tip-toe around and make happy some other way. Then there's a whole pandemic you're working around also. 

 

Edited July 2, 2020 by UncleBuck

[IDIOTsavant 8555]

Truth: Mississippi had no interest in changing it's flag until it started to impact the bottom line economically. As soon as all the coaches showed up to the statehouse and said they wouldn't be able to recruit, it was a done deal.

[UncleBuck 6455]

3 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

Truth: Mississippi had no interest in changing it's flag until it started to impact the bottom line economically. As soon as all the coaches showed up to the statehouse and said they wouldn't be able to recruit, it was a done deal.

Now you gotta wonder how much of the bottom line Texas is worried about with big money donors. Hopefully they can work shit out with those guys, if they're presenting a solid roadblock. 

Edited July 2, 2020 by UncleBuck

[texifornia 57558]

4 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

Truth: Mississippi had no interest in changing it's flag until it started to impact the bottom line economically. As soon as all the coaches showed up to the statehouse and said they wouldn't be able to recruit, it was a done deal.

It's been hurting the state beyond football for longer than that - the traditional Chamber of Commerce conservatives have been soft on the topic for years. As soon as there was a concerted movement, they were happy to align with the liberals against the more redneck Republicans.

Edited July 2, 2020 by texifornia

[IDIOTsavant 8555]

1 minute ago, UncleBuck said:

Now you gotta wonder how much of the bottom line Texas is worried about with big money donors. Hopefully they can work shit out with those guys, if they're presenting a solid roadblock. 

Finances in general are going to be a real problem for public universities for the next couple of years