Texas Recruiting Notes 2021

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2 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Anybody have this from Inside Texas??

Burton: Tom Herman’s rule of 62

By: Bobby Burton

Just doing some very basic research on Texas, Tom Herman and Herman’s penchant for playing close, one-score games over the past four years...

Just doing some very basic research on Texas, Tom Herman and Herman’s penchant for playing close, one-score games over the past four years.

Texas’ conference record over past four years is 21-13 or a 62% winning percentage.

Of the 34 conference games in Herman’s tenure, Texas has played in 21 one-score games, or yet again 62%.

Last but not least, Texas’ record in those one-score games is 13-8. And guess what that win percentage is? You guessed it. 62%.

I typically believe in the Will Muschamp theory of stats can tell you whatever you want them to.

So I don’t know that this says all that much other than a) a 62% win percentage in conference is bad at a place like Texas and b) Herman is no strategic mastermind because he’s no better in close games than he is overall.

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IT Humidor

TEAM

An extra week off equals a much needed extra week of health for the team. Or it will mean rust, you just never know

Three players would have missed the game versus the Jayhawks: The two Carthaginians, Keaontay Ingram and Kelvontay Dixon, as well as the team’s best receiver, Joshua Moore. Not that they would have been needed, that’s just an indication of where they are health-wise.

Running back Roschon Johnson would have been available, especially with Ingram out. This scenario is exactly why they brought in graduate transfer Gabe Watson, who would have played versus Kansas.

Keondre Coburn would have been available, but not likely needed given the opponent and team depth at defensive tackle.

Jordan Whittington has looked good in practice, but if we never get a question about his health again it will be too soon. Given his history, you can’t expect him to finish a game. Any amount of snaps versus Iowa State is big for the offense needing play-makers, however, so maybe it’s good the KU game was postponed.

With no game on Saturday, the team will practice. The goal versus KU was to play as many freshman as possible, including quarterback Hudson Card. Regular team activities will resume on Monday.

Friday will arrive fast. That’s a huge game and opportunity for the team to play well on plenty of rest.

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The portal giving and taking will be one of the bigger offseason stories no matter what happens at the top of the totem pole. It’s going to be the Wild West and not just at Texas. Some players who think they’re NFL ready, but clearly aren’t, might decide to play elsewhere for a year (NCAA should allow trades next, imho). Some of that is dependent on what happens at head coach, some of that is more dependent on the player being wanted.

Texas is going to be very active in the transfer market, much more than usual, and they’re already pretty active. The staff will be looking for veterans almost across the board. We could likely see them take a reduced class number in order to pursue transfers.

While you don’t want to make a habit of building through free agency, Tom Herman, should he return, will be feeling the heat to win immediately, and you don’t do that with freshmen. There is a point where taking too many transfers hurts a program, but I’m not saying they intend to cross that plane.

One transfer on the radar: Kansas State safety Jonathan Alexander’s name came up this week as a guy Texas is monitoring in the transfer portal.

The 6-foot-2, 213-pound safety out of Fort Worth Trimble Tech opted out of 2020 and is looking for a home in 2021. The former Kilgore College standout had a strong 2019 for the Wildcats.

He’s hearing from TCU, Arkansas, Mississippi State, and Florida State, and wants to make a decision in mid-December.

We’re told UT is in wait and see mode and Alexander probably isn’t a take today, but worth noting that could change down the line. He really wants to see Austin and we get the sense if the Horns pursue, they have a great shot.

When you see that size, you wonder about linebacker, especially since UT likes its young safeties.

Another example of the oncoming portal onslaught: A name known to recruiting fans in the state of Texas in the 2017 class that has been productive in the Big 12 to the tune of nearly 1,000 yards the last two season could hit the portal following the season. If this were to happen, Texas would have interest. Clearly it’s a position of need and this guy could score with a 20-yard head start.

RECRUITING MATTERS

Class of 2021 wide receiver recruiting continues to take twists and turns. Just days after Texas offered Rudder High’s Keithron Lee at the position, the Longhorns are turning up the heat on J.J. Henry. You read that correct, the Longhorns want J.J. Henry and it’s known to people in Henry’s circle.

The Longhorns’ main competition for Henry is Ole Miss. While people close to Henry would rather him stay close, seeing what undersized receiver Elijah Moore has done at Ole Miss has Henry’s full attention. Moore came out of high school as a 5-foot-9, 170-175-pound receiver that was dumped by Georgia during the process, and became one of the top receivers in college football the last two seasons. Another school to watch if they offer shortly is UCF. Similar to Henry seeing what Moore has done at Ole Miss, former Oklahoma signee turned UCF receiver Jaylon Robinson is starring at UCF with a 1,000-yard season in sight. If Texas were to win out for Henry, it would be the strong relationship built by Andre Coleman, and Henry’s circle pushing to stay very close to home.

Turning to Keithron Lee, the long-armed, sure-handed playmaker is building a relationship quickly with Coleman. The Longhorns have a real opportunity to win out for Lee, but an offer from USC could be one that would be most significant at this point of the schools talking to Lee that haven’t offered. Along with Texas, TCU and Ole Miss are the ones to watch that have offered. Lee isn’t expected to sign until February, so the Longhorns have plenty of time to relationship build and get Lee on campus for a student visit.

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The ongoing issues at LSU are giving at least two commits second thoughts that we have heard. One of those LSU verbals has reached back out to Texas recently to see if there is still a scholarship if the skill player was to back out of his pledge to the defending National Champions.

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As far as edge rush prospects, Texas has had quite a bit of positive communication with Pelican State defensive end and Arizona State verbal Gharin Stansbury. We have spoken before about the connection a couple of Texas staff members have with Stansbury’s older brother, Gavin. Gavin signed with Texas A&M out of high school and transferred to Houston to finish up his eligibility. Gavin Stansbury lives in Houston, and is said to like the idea of his little brother playing and getting a degree from Texas. Arizona State has a solid relationship with Gharin, as one would expect.

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At cornerback, the Texas staff doesn’t appear to be ready to offer or push for another senior prospect at this time. Should the staff look to the portal instead of building from the high school ranks, that would likely push Marvin Covington of Lake Ridge to TCU unless new offer Texas Tech can upset the close-to-home Horned Frogs. Gary Patterson has done extremely well evaluating defensive backs over the years, and Covington would be more of the same.

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The IT Top 50 for the class of 2022 featured a DT prospect completely off the recruiting radar. Kristopher-Ryan Ross is a 6-foot-3, 260-pound defensive tackle for North Shore. While UTSA being his only offer is ridiculous at this point, the Texas staff is aware of Ross. A key to this recruitment should the Longhorns offer is Ross grew up in Port Arthur and is close with Longhorns verbal Jordan Thomas.

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Staying in the class of 2022, the Longhorns staff has begun taking interest in Katy’s Nicholas Anderson. The near 6-foot-4, 190-pounder was offered by Notre Dame Thursday, and Texas receivers coach Andre Coleman has been inquiring about Anderson with a person close to Anderson’s recruitment. The younger brother of former Oklahoma running back Rodney Anderson is a fast riser this season, making his debut in the top 30 of the IT Top 50 for the class of 2022, as well as debuting at No. 161 in the latest release of the ESPN Jr300. Anderson will have more than 20 offers in the near future.

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We caught up with 2022 Southlake Carroll five-star quarterback Quinn Ewers on Thursday night. The former Texas commit verbally pledged to Ohio State Thursday evening.

While Ewers was diplomatic in his answers, he admitted there wasn’t anything Texas could’ve done differently, he just felt like tOSU was the best move for him at this time.

We doubt he’ll move off his stance, even if the Texas staff is replaced, but we’ve seen crazier things happen in recruiting.

DOES EWERS TO OSU TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THE BIGGER PICTURE?

It’s a question without an answer but it did spark quite the discussion, especially since the one-time Texas commit had glowing quotes toward Ohio State’s quarterback coach, Corey Dennis. Dennis, menace that he is, is Urban Meyer’s son-in-law, and he would likely have some understanding of Meyers’ interest in coaching at Texas.

This development had us discussing recent calls IT has had with sources regarding Meyer and wanting to coach again. He does want to coach again, that even comes across when he’s on the television set, but he also likes being close to his family, to include his grandchildren, in Columbus, and it would take a lot to coax him back to the sidelines.

From what we gather from booster sources, they’re still all in on trying to strike a deal with the generation’s second best head coach. We still don’t know how to handicap the odds the school can pull it off, and obviously there still isn’t a vacancy, which we’ve heard impedes formative discussions.

The mentality with people of influence remains Urban or bust and we’ve still heard no recent credible names for Scenario 3. Absent a clear #2 option, we could see the BB’s that were recently picked up by the trilateral commission’s (president, AD, and BOR) metal detector scatter.

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For the new subscribers, and speaking of getting the BB’s in the box, thanks for following Bobby Burton over and giving us a shot. By tomorrow morning (maybe later this afternoon), we’ll post a compendium of what we’ve reported since early October so we’re all on the same page.

What you need to know right now: Scenario 1 = pursuing Urban Meyer, Scenario 2 = retaining Tom Herman, and Scenario 3 = a real search.

Iowa State and Kansas State loom large and should help provide some clarity on which scenario is the likelies

[canadianhorn21 963]

15 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

IT Humidor

TEAM

An extra week off equals a much needed extra week of health for the team. Or it will mean rust, you just never know

Three players would have missed the game versus the Jayhawks: The two Carthaginians, Keaontay Ingram and Kelvontay Dixon, as well as the team’s best receiver, Joshua Moore. Not that they would have been needed, that’s just an indication of where they are health-wise.

Running back Roschon Johnson would have been available, especially with Ingram out. This scenario is exactly why they brought in graduate transfer Gabe Watson, who would have played versus Kansas.

Keondre Coburn would have been available, but not likely needed given the opponent and team depth at defensive tackle.

Jordan Whittington has looked good in practice, but if we never get a question about his health again it will be too soon. Given his history, you can’t expect him to finish a game. Any amount of snaps versus Iowa State is big for the offense needing play-makers, however, so maybe it’s good the KU game was postponed.

With no game on Saturday, the team will practice. The goal versus KU was to play as many freshman as possible, including quarterback Hudson Card. Regular team activities will resume on Monday.

Friday will arrive fast. That’s a huge game and opportunity for the team to play well on plenty of rest.

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The portal giving and taking will be one of the bigger offseason stories no matter what happens at the top of the totem pole. It’s going to be the Wild West and not just at Texas. Some players who think they’re NFL ready, but clearly aren’t, might decide to play elsewhere for a year (NCAA should allow trades next, imho). Some of that is dependent on what happens at head coach, some of that is more dependent on the player being wanted.

Texas is going to be very active in the transfer market, much more than usual, and they’re already pretty active. The staff will be looking for veterans almost across the board. We could likely see them take a reduced class number in order to pursue transfers.

While you don’t want to make a habit of building through free agency, Tom Herman, should he return, will be feeling the heat to win immediately, and you don’t do that with freshmen. There is a point where taking too many transfers hurts a program, but I’m not saying they intend to cross that plane.

One transfer on the radar: Kansas State safety Jonathan Alexander’s name came up this week as a guy Texas is monitoring in the transfer portal.

The 6-foot-2, 213-pound safety out of Fort Worth Trimble Tech opted out of 2020 and is looking for a home in 2021. The former Kilgore College standout had a strong 2019 for the Wildcats.

He’s hearing from TCU, Arkansas, Mississippi State, and Florida State, and wants to make a decision in mid-December.

We’re told UT is in wait and see mode and Alexander probably isn’t a take today, but worth noting that could change down the line. He really wants to see Austin and we get the sense if the Horns pursue, they have a great shot.

When you see that size, you wonder about linebacker, especially since UT likes its young safeties.

Another example of the oncoming portal onslaught: A name known to recruiting fans in the state of Texas in the 2017 class that has been productive in the Big 12 to the tune of nearly 1,000 yards the last two season could hit the portal following the season. If this were to happen, Texas would have interest. Clearly it’s a position of need and this guy could score with a 20-yard head start.

RECRUITING MATTERS

Class of 2021 wide receiver recruiting continues to take twists and turns. Just days after Texas offered Rudder High’s Keithron Lee at the position, the Longhorns are turning up the heat on J.J. Henry. You read that correct, the Longhorns want J.J. Henry and it’s known to people in Henry’s circle.

The Longhorns’ main competition for Henry is Ole Miss. While people close to Henry would rather him stay close, seeing what undersized receiver Elijah Moore has done at Ole Miss has Henry’s full attention. Moore came out of high school as a 5-foot-9, 170-175-pound receiver that was dumped by Georgia during the process, and became one of the top receivers in college football the last two seasons. Another school to watch if they offer shortly is UCF. Similar to Henry seeing what Moore has done at Ole Miss, former Oklahoma signee turned UCF receiver Jaylon Robinson is starring at UCF with a 1,000-yard season in sight. If Texas were to win out for Henry, it would be the strong relationship built by Andre Coleman, and Henry’s circle pushing to stay very close to home.

Turning to Keithron Lee, the long-armed, sure-handed playmaker is building a relationship quickly with Coleman. The Longhorns have a real opportunity to win out for Lee, but an offer from USC could be one that would be most significant at this point of the schools talking to Lee that haven’t offered. Along with Texas, TCU and Ole Miss are the ones to watch that have offered. Lee isn’t expected to sign until February, so the Longhorns have plenty of time to relationship build and get Lee on campus for a student visit.

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The ongoing issues at LSU are giving at least two commits second thoughts that we have heard. One of those LSU verbals has reached back out to Texas recently to see if there is still a scholarship if the skill player was to back out of his pledge to the defending National Champions.

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As far as edge rush prospects, Texas has had quite a bit of positive communication with Pelican State defensive end and Arizona State verbal Gharin Stansbury. We have spoken before about the connection a couple of Texas staff members have with Stansbury’s older brother, Gavin. Gavin signed with Texas A&M out of high school and transferred to Houston to finish up his eligibility. Gavin Stansbury lives in Houston, and is said to like the idea of his little brother playing and getting a degree from Texas. Arizona State has a solid relationship with Gharin, as one would expect.

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At cornerback, the Texas staff doesn’t appear to be ready to offer or push for another senior prospect at this time. Should the staff look to the portal instead of building from the high school ranks, that would likely push Marvin Covington of Lake Ridge to TCU unless new offer Texas Tech can upset the close-to-home Horned Frogs. Gary Patterson has done extremely well evaluating defensive backs over the years, and Covington would be more of the same.

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The IT Top 50 for the class of 2022 featured a DT prospect completely off the recruiting radar. Kristopher-Ryan Ross is a 6-foot-3, 260-pound defensive tackle for North Shore. While UTSA being his only offer is ridiculous at this point, the Texas staff is aware of Ross. A key to this recruitment should the Longhorns offer is Ross grew up in Port Arthur and is close with Longhorns verbal Jordan Thomas.

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Staying in the class of 2022, the Longhorns staff has begun taking interest in Katy’s Nicholas Anderson. The near 6-foot-4, 190-pounder was offered by Notre Dame Thursday, and Texas receivers coach Andre Coleman has been inquiring about Anderson with a person close to Anderson’s recruitment. The younger brother of former Oklahoma running back Rodney Anderson is a fast riser this season, making his debut in the top 30 of the IT Top 50 for the class of 2022, as well as debuting at No. 161 in the latest release of the ESPN Jr300. Anderson will have more than 20 offers in the near future.

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We caught up with 2022 Southlake Carroll five-star quarterback Quinn Ewers on Thursday night. The former Texas commit verbally pledged to Ohio State Thursday evening.

While Ewers was diplomatic in his answers, he admitted there wasn’t anything Texas could’ve done differently, he just felt like tOSU was the best move for him at this time.

We doubt he’ll move off his stance, even if the Texas staff is replaced, but we’ve seen crazier things happen in recruiting.

DOES EWERS TO OSU TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THE BIGGER PICTURE?

It’s a question without an answer but it did spark quite the discussion, especially since the one-time Texas commit had glowing quotes toward Ohio State’s quarterback coach, Corey Dennis. Dennis, menace that he is, is Urban Meyer’s son-in-law, and he would likely have some understanding of Meyers’ interest in coaching at Texas.

This development had us discussing recent calls IT has had with sources regarding Meyer and wanting to coach again. He does want to coach again, that even comes across when he’s on the television set, but he also likes being close to his family, to include his grandchildren, in Columbus, and it would take a lot to coax him back to the sidelines.

From what we gather from booster sources, they’re still all in on trying to strike a deal with the generation’s second best head coach. We still don’t know how to handicap the odds the school can pull it off, and obviously there still isn’t a vacancy, which we’ve heard impedes formative discussions.

The mentality with people of influence remains Urban or bust and we’ve still heard no recent credible names for Scenario 3. Absent a clear #2 option, we could see the BB’s that were recently picked up by the trilateral commission’s (president, AD, and BOR) metal detector scatter.

#####

For the new subscribers, and speaking of getting the BB’s in the box, thanks for following Bobby Burton over and giving us a shot. By tomorrow morning (maybe later this afternoon), we’ll post a compendium of what we’ve reported since early October so we’re all on the same page.

What you need to know right now: Scenario 1 = pursuing Urban Meyer, Scenario 2 = retaining Tom Herman, and Scenario 3 = a real search.

Iowa State and Kansas State loom large and should help provide some clarity on which scenario is the likelies

Soooooo JOJO wants in?!?!?! That LSU tidbit along with Newy25 info sure seems like it..

[Thiefery 5015]

Makes too much sense for Urban to take this job, hire his son in law as the Co-OC/QB coach along with maybe Yurcich?  Urban then puts in 5 years here and hands over the keys to his son in law.

[HenryJames 66135]

16 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

Makes too much sense for Urban to take this job, hire his son in law as the Co-OC/QB coach along with maybe Yurcich? 

Yeah, that is an easily solvable dilemma.

[WinningIsHard 4053]

1 hour ago, Thiefery said:

Makes too much sense for Urban to take this job, hire his son in law as the Co-OC/QB coach along with maybe Yurcich?  Urban then puts in 5 years here and hands over the keys to his son in law.

Shit if he gets his son in law to follow him here and flips Ewers then he only needs 3 years to win a title and walk away clean. Best coach of all time discussion with no drama. Fucking win/win for everybody involved. Let the menace take over with a turned around blue blood program. Futureman fuck your response to this so I don’t need to quote your reply. 

[Thiefery 5015]

6 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

Shit if he gets his son in law to follow him here and flips Ewers then he only needs 3 years to win a title and walk away clean. Best coach of all time discussion with no drama. Fucking win/win for everybody involved. Let the menace take over with a turned around blue blood program. Futureman fuck your response to this so I don’t need to quote your reply. 

When he gets this place rolling, he won't have the stress he had at other places

[Sgt Hulk 13814]

17 hours ago, RGBIII said:

IT Humidor

TEAM

An extra week off equals a much needed extra week of health for the team. Or it will mean rust, you just never know

Three players would have missed the game versus the Jayhawks: The two Carthaginians, Keaontay Ingram and Kelvontay Dixon, as well as the team’s best receiver, Joshua Moore. Not that they would have been needed, that’s just an indication of where they are health-wise.

Running back Roschon Johnson would have been available, especially with Ingram out. This scenario is exactly why they brought in graduate transfer Gabe Watson, who would have played versus Kansas.

Keondre Coburn would have been available, but not likely needed given the opponent and team depth at defensive tackle.

Jordan Whittington has looked good in practice, but if we never get a question about his health again it will be too soon. Given his history, you can’t expect him to finish a game. Any amount of snaps versus Iowa State is big for the offense needing play-makers, however, so maybe it’s good the KU game was postponed.

With no game on Saturday, the team will practice. The goal versus KU was to play as many freshman as possible, including quarterback Hudson Card. Regular team activities will resume on Monday.

Friday will arrive fast. That’s a huge game and opportunity for the team to play well on plenty of rest.

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The portal giving and taking will be one of the bigger offseason stories no matter what happens at the top of the totem pole. It’s going to be the Wild West and not just at Texas. Some players who think they’re NFL ready, but clearly aren’t, might decide to play elsewhere for a year (NCAA should allow trades next, imho). Some of that is dependent on what happens at head coach, some of that is more dependent on the player being wanted.

Texas is going to be very active in the transfer market, much more than usual, and they’re already pretty active. The staff will be looking for veterans almost across the board. We could likely see them take a reduced class number in order to pursue transfers.

While you don’t want to make a habit of building through free agency, Tom Herman, should he return, will be feeling the heat to win immediately, and you don’t do that with freshmen. There is a point where taking too many transfers hurts a program, but I’m not saying they intend to cross that plane.

One transfer on the radar: Kansas State safety Jonathan Alexander’s name came up this week as a guy Texas is monitoring in the transfer portal.

The 6-foot-2, 213-pound safety out of Fort Worth Trimble Tech opted out of 2020 and is looking for a home in 2021. The former Kilgore College standout had a strong 2019 for the Wildcats.

He’s hearing from TCU, Arkansas, Mississippi State, and Florida State, and wants to make a decision in mid-December.

We’re told UT is in wait and see mode and Alexander probably isn’t a take today, but worth noting that could change down the line. He really wants to see Austin and we get the sense if the Horns pursue, they have a great shot.

When you see that size, you wonder about linebacker, especially since UT likes its young safeties.

Another example of the oncoming portal onslaught: A name known to recruiting fans in the state of Texas in the 2017 class that has been productive in the Big 12 to the tune of nearly 1,000 yards the last two season could hit the portal following the season. If this were to happen, Texas would have interest. Clearly it’s a position of need and this guy could score with a 20-yard head start.

RECRUITING MATTERS

Class of 2021 wide receiver recruiting continues to take twists and turns. Just days after Texas offered Rudder High’s Keithron Lee at the position, the Longhorns are turning up the heat on J.J. Henry. You read that correct, the Longhorns want J.J. Henry and it’s known to people in Henry’s circle.

The Longhorns’ main competition for Henry is Ole Miss. While people close to Henry would rather him stay close, seeing what undersized receiver Elijah Moore has done at Ole Miss has Henry’s full attention. Moore came out of high school as a 5-foot-9, 170-175-pound receiver that was dumped by Georgia during the process, and became one of the top receivers in college football the last two seasons. Another school to watch if they offer shortly is UCF. Similar to Henry seeing what Moore has done at Ole Miss, former Oklahoma signee turned UCF receiver Jaylon Robinson is starring at UCF with a 1,000-yard season in sight. If Texas were to win out for Henry, it would be the strong relationship built by Andre Coleman, and Henry’s circle pushing to stay very close to home.

Turning to Keithron Lee, the long-armed, sure-handed playmaker is building a relationship quickly with Coleman. The Longhorns have a real opportunity to win out for Lee, but an offer from USC could be one that would be most significant at this point of the schools talking to Lee that haven’t offered. Along with Texas, TCU and Ole Miss are the ones to watch that have offered. Lee isn’t expected to sign until February, so the Longhorns have plenty of time to relationship build and get Lee on campus for a student visit.

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The ongoing issues at LSU are giving at least two commits second thoughts that we have heard. One of those LSU verbals has reached back out to Texas recently to see if there is still a scholarship if the skill player was to back out of his pledge to the defending National Champions.

#####

As far as edge rush prospects, Texas has had quite a bit of positive communication with Pelican State defensive end and Arizona State verbal Gharin Stansbury. We have spoken before about the connection a couple of Texas staff members have with Stansbury’s older brother, Gavin. Gavin signed with Texas A&M out of high school and transferred to Houston to finish up his eligibility. Gavin Stansbury lives in Houston, and is said to like the idea of his little brother playing and getting a degree from Texas. Arizona State has a solid relationship with Gharin, as one would expect.

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At cornerback, the Texas staff doesn’t appear to be ready to offer or push for another senior prospect at this time. Should the staff look to the portal instead of building from the high school ranks, that would likely push Marvin Covington of Lake Ridge to TCU unless new offer Texas Tech can upset the close-to-home Horned Frogs. Gary Patterson has done extremely well evaluating defensive backs over the years, and Covington would be more of the same.

#####

The IT Top 50 for the class of 2022 featured a DT prospect completely off the recruiting radar. Kristopher-Ryan Ross is a 6-foot-3, 260-pound defensive tackle for North Shore. While UTSA being his only offer is ridiculous at this point, the Texas staff is aware of Ross. A key to this recruitment should the Longhorns offer is Ross grew up in Port Arthur and is close with Longhorns verbal Jordan Thomas.

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Staying in the class of 2022, the Longhorns staff has begun taking interest in Katy’s Nicholas Anderson. The near 6-foot-4, 190-pounder was offered by Notre Dame Thursday, and Texas receivers coach Andre Coleman has been inquiring about Anderson with a person close to Anderson’s recruitment. The younger brother of former Oklahoma running back Rodney Anderson is a fast riser this season, making his debut in the top 30 of the IT Top 50 for the class of 2022, as well as debuting at No. 161 in the latest release of the ESPN Jr300. Anderson will have more than 20 offers in the near future.

#####

We caught up with 2022 Southlake Carroll five-star quarterback Quinn Ewers on Thursday night. The former Texas commit verbally pledged to Ohio State Thursday evening.

While Ewers was diplomatic in his answers, he admitted there wasn’t anything Texas could’ve done differently, he just felt like tOSU was the best move for him at this time.

We doubt he’ll move off his stance, even if the Texas staff is replaced, but we’ve seen crazier things happen in recruiting.

DOES EWERS TO OSU TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THE BIGGER PICTURE?

It’s a question without an answer but it did spark quite the discussion, especially since the one-time Texas commit had glowing quotes toward Ohio State’s quarterback coach, Corey Dennis. Dennis, menace that he is, is Urban Meyer’s son-in-law, and he would likely have some understanding of Meyers’ interest in coaching at Texas.

This development had us discussing recent calls IT has had with sources regarding Meyer and wanting to coach again. He does want to coach again, that even comes across when he’s on the television set, but he also likes being close to his family, to include his grandchildren, in Columbus, and it would take a lot to coax him back to the sidelines.

From what we gather from booster sources, they’re still all in on trying to strike a deal with the generation’s second best head coach. We still don’t know how to handicap the odds the school can pull it off, and obviously there still isn’t a vacancy, which we’ve heard impedes formative discussions.

The mentality with people of influence remains Urban or bust and we’ve still heard no recent credible names for Scenario 3. Absent a clear #2 option, we could see the BB’s that were recently picked up by the trilateral commission’s (president, AD, and BOR) metal detector scatter.

#####

For the new subscribers, and speaking of getting the BB’s in the box, thanks for following Bobby Burton over and giving us a shot. By tomorrow morning (maybe later this afternoon), we’ll post a compendium of what we’ve reported since early October so we’re all on the same page.

What you need to know right now: Scenario 1 = pursuing Urban Meyer, Scenario 2 = retaining Tom Herman, and Scenario 3 = a real search.

Iowa State and Kansas State loom large and should help provide some clarity on which scenario is the likelies

lets not forget the portal dram when half our team ends up in it as well.   i doubt we were really going to see a ton of freshman against kansas seeing as we have turtle tom as a coach.

[Michael Knight 12989]

Look on the bright side guys, we may not even have a 2021 season

[gmr548 16590]

Murphy reminds me of Poona, smaller in size for a DT but just a football playing jack. His blow delivery is some of the best I've seen this year. OL's helmets are rocking back when he goes to make his fit.  

I played center at 6’2” and
I vividly remember the two times I just got whipped from start to finish, one even got me pulled from the game... lined up against nose tackles that were like 5’10”. It’s like trying to push a fucking boulder off the line. Those guys just ate my lunch.

Short, stocky types with burst are a fucking nightmare at DT. You cannot move them.

[MuellerHorn 4256]

22 hours ago, RGBIII said:

IT Humidor

Another example of the oncoming portal onslaught: A name known to recruiting fans in the state of Texas in the 2017 class that has been productive in the Big 12 to the tune of nearly 1,000 yards the last two season could hit the portal following the season. If this were to happen, Texas would have interest. Clearly it’s a position of need and this guy could score with a 20-yard head start.
 

Kennedy Brooks is the only RB from 2017 I can think of that would fit this. Those recruits would be RS juniors or seniors right now, and Brooks rushed for 1,011 yards in 2019 and 1,056 in 2018.

[Mdhorn 5974]

2 hours ago, gmr548 said:

I played center at 6’2” and
I vividly remember the two times I just got whipped from start to finish, one even got me pulled from the game... lined up against nose tackles that were like 5’10”. It’s like trying to push a fucking boulder off the line. Those guys just ate my lunch.

Short, stocky types with burst are a fucking nightmare at DT. You cannot move them.

can't get underneath them and they prolly beat you to the punch. Taller guys have longer arms which is their advantage.  

[MuellerHorn 4256]

1 minute ago, Mdhorn said:

can't get underneath them and they prolly beat you to the punch. Taller guys have longer arms which is their advantage.  

And this combination (shorter and stout with long arms) is why Poona Ford is, and will be, in the NFL for a long time.

[Red Five 40877]

17 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

Kennedy Brooks is the only RB from 2017 I can think of that would fit this. Those recruits would be RS juniors or seniors right now, and Brooks rushed for 1,011 yards in 2019 and 1,056 in 2018.

They said it's not a RB. Last I checked on that thread the best guess was Charleston Rambo.

[Mdhorn 5974]

4 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

And this combination (shorter and stout with long arms) is why Poona Ford is, and will be, in the NFL for a long time.

Yep.  He's explosive too, and not just a space eater.  Poona has a motor.   

[Mdhorn 5974]

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

They said it's not a RB. Last I checked on that thread the best guess was Charleston Rambo.

That would be a good get. Don't let him go to ISU or TCU or OSU. He'd be devastating at one of those programs.

Edited November 22, 2020 by Mdhorn

[TommyGufano 6021]

1 hour ago, MuellerHorn said:

Kennedy Brooks is the only RB from 2017 I can think of that would fit this. Those recruits would be RS juniors or seniors right now, and Brooks rushed for 1,011 yards in 2019 and 1,056 in 2018.

The guy who beat up his gf? pass

[ChemicalHorn 360]

1 hour ago, TommyGufano said:

The guy who beat up his gf? pass

Well he went to OU, so isn’t that kind of a given?

[futureman 22510]

On 11/20/2020 at 9:03 PM, WinningIsHard said:

Shit if he gets his son in law to follow him here and flips Ewers then he only needs 3 years to win a title and walk away clean. Best coach of all time discussion with no drama. Fucking win/win for everybody involved. Let the menace take over with a turned around blue blood program. Futureman fuck your response to this so I don’t need to quote your reply. 

Lulz

[ausjala 101]

On 11/21/2020 at 4:10 AM, Thiefery said:

When he gets this place rolling, he won't have the stress he had at other places

Yeah, there is no stress at Texas--great take. Oh, you were trying to be funny . . .

[RGBIII 22840]

IT Scoop

Spoiler

What we know:
- Ugly wins don’t help Tom Herman unless he somehow wins out that way. He can win out in the regular season that way but a Big 12 CCG victory would have to be earned if it’s versus OU.

- Wins and losses are only half of the equation. Herman set fire to his bridges, making wins and losses the only thing that could save his neck.

- BMDs are going all out in pursuit of Scenario #1. You think you have little appetite for @Toadvine threads, these guys have even less and don’t want to hear about any other potential candidates.

- As we’ve been reporting for well over a month, the trilateral commission is on the same page. As we learned with the Saban fiasco, whoever has veto power holds the keys. That won’t be an issue assuming Herman drops a game and UM wants the gig.

- Urban Meyer does want to coach again. We’ve heard it, but it’s also obvious watching him on television.

- Some informal steps have taken place that are consistent with the hiring process, but they’re certainly not binding in any way whatsoever.

- UM does have interest in the Texas job. He would have shot it down a month ago if he didn‘t have interest. But he also doesn’t want the appearance of gunning for a job that isn’t open. That, along with UT’s win streak, have kept things mostly quiet. That’s a good thing.

- His family would prefer he stay retired.

- If the decision makers miss, it won’t be for lack of effort.

What we think we know:

- If UT misses, we don’t think it will be because of money, but we don’t know exactly what the price tag will be. We’ve heard some rumors that place it at being very steep, but the money guys seem pot committed at this point.

- We think there’s a growing confidence regarding UM’s level of interest. We have to read between the lines, but that’s my intuition. Reminder that intuition is not information, however, there are enough bread crumbs to lead me to thinking this is on a slightly upward trajectory, rather than flat or degrading.

[There’s a lot more to this section — basically half of the Google Doc — but we’ll have to save it for when things either heat up significantly or for a retrospective]

What we’re unsure of:

- What happens if Herman wins out? @Bobby Burton is reporting in that event Herman will be back. That logically follows, but if they’ve reached an informal agreement with Meyer by mid-December, right before the Big 12 CCG, I wonder about that. One of the school’s biggest issues is fundraising. What will happen if the efforts of some of the biggest donors to land the unquestioned second best coach of the generation are rebuffed? That certainly won’t help the school’s efforts to raise money at a time it’s greatly needed.

- How much does the family’s opinion matter? We know Meyer’s family would love for him to stay on the sidelines by staying off the sidelines. They don’t want him coaching again. How much their opinion matters is an unknown and we’ve reported in the past some on the Texas side are concerned by it.

- What happens if Herman makes it to the Big 12 CCG but does what he does 80% of the time and loses a close one to OU? This could turn into a mess because many people are done with Herman no matter what but there aren’t many obviously qualified candidates aside Meyer. The BBs could spill here if CDC elects to do nothing. Again, that will hurt fundraising.

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The flip of 2021 DeSoto DL Byron Murphy from Baylor to Texas helps the Longhorns' cause with Murphy's good friend and the top prospect remaining on the Texas board, Shemar Turner. As IT has talked about for weeks, Texas had moved from outside the top to the top with Texas A&M prior to the season, but the Longhorns have lost momentum and trailed Texas A&M by quite a bit prior to Murphy’s pledge. Word around the DeSoto program is Texas A&M still leads, but the people IT spoke with acknowledge there is still some Texas push within Turner’s family. With that being said, the family is happy if Turner stays close to home. The lone out of state threat appears to be Alabama right now. Texas and Turner continue to communicate regularly. Turner’s recruitment has featured Tom Herman, Oscar Giles, Chris Ash, Mark Hagen and Bryan Carrington at various points with Herman having a long-standing relationship with a member of Turner’s circle dating back to the Dontre Wilson recruitment.

The Longhorns offer to Bridgeland 2022 QB Conner Weigman was one of those childhood dream offers. With that said, Weigman told IT Friday before Bridgeland’s game against Cy-Falls his current decision timeline is early summer. He said he really wants to make some visits and sit down with head coaches, offensive coordinators and position coaches. In speaking with someone dialed into Weigman’s recruitment, the offers from Texas, Oklahoma and Florida have moved the needle. An offer from Texas A&M would do the same. The consensus has been close to home at the end of the day providing Texas and Oklahoma a considerable advantage, as well as the Aggies should they offer. The questions surrounding the future of the staff in Austin is known by Weigman and the Bridgeland staff, and that slowed the chances of a quick verbal — at this point. Weigman plans to play both football and baseball at the next level, so that also factors into his equation.

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BYRON MURPHY

The newest addition to UT’s Class of 2021 had himself a night on Friday, dominating Mansfield. With teammate and fellow prospect, Shemar Turner, Desoto‘s front four is immovable.

At 6-foot-1and 290 pounds, the four-star with 20 offers including Georgia, Mississippi State, Minnesota, and TCU enjoyed himself only days after flipping to the Longhorns. But he still misses taking the trips.

“If we would have had an opportunity to play spring ball, I feel my recruitment would have really skyrocketed,” Murphy said. “The pandemic also affected my chances to take official visits, which would have also been helpful in determining my commitment.”

With Mark Hagen pressing the right buttons, Texas was able to persuade Murphy to de-commit from Baylor.

“I am looking for a program that is going to challenge me to a better player on and off the field,” said Murphy. “A place to develop me as a young man and allow me to have an immediate impact on the field.”

He knows who he is and what he’s bringing to Austin. He feels like he can achieve his goals at UT.

“I am bringing a winning pedigree, tenacity, heart and love for the game to UT,” Murphy explained.

Before he can help the Horns, he still has one mission remaining.

“My expectations for DeSoto this year is to make a deep run in the playoffs and hopefully bring home a state championship trophy,” Murphy said.

Bringing Turner with him to Austin might be another goal as well. Stay tuned.

JJ HENRY

At 5-foot-10 and 165 pounds, the lightning-quick slot receiver from McKinney North dropped his Top 8 on Sunday, and Texas was included, to no surprise.

They joined TCU, Baylor, Texas A&M, Florida State, Arkansas, SMU, Ole Miss, and Louisville. They all have one thing in common for Henry.

“Family,” said Henry. “Each program has treated me like their own.”

What is one thing he really likes about the Longhorns?

“The culture,” said Henry. “Nothing like some Texas Football. I like how the program is run and the staff.”

The COVID pandemic has ruined recruiting for a lot of prospects, and Henry mentioned how much he’d like to take visits and get a feel for the programs. But he’ll have to decide sight unseen, like many other targets.

His decision timeline is TBD, but I get the sense he’s close to narrowing down his list even more. I believe UT will be in this pursuit as long as they want.

I’m watching TCU and A&M here, too. Both have recruited the position at a high level over the last few years and both like the Under Armour all star.

COLE HUTSON

The 2022 Frisco offensive tackle has been enjoying a solid junior year, with offers adding up.

Alabama jumped into the mix for the 6-foot-4, 290-pound three-sport athlete.

Just like others, the inability to take visits seems to be taking its toll on prospects. But Hutson doesn’t complain.

“It’s been a big impact with from extending the dead period to teams not being able to play, but I still try my hardest to be in contact with coaches but also focus on my season, virtual tours are great,” Hutson said. “The staffs really try to make it like a normal visit.”

Texas keeps close tabs on him and continues to push for his services.

“(Texas and I) talk about my season and theirs, they care about me and my family,” said Hutson. “I talk to Coach Hand and Coach Herman regularly. They always wish the best for me at my games and I do the same.”

His father, Scott, played pro baseball after a career at Arizona State, so the DNA checks out.

With 23 offers, including OU, Texas A&M, and Arizona State, his options are solid.

Hutson remains open throughout the process and Texas has done a great job building the relationship here.

SEBASTIAN CHEEKS

The 2022 Evanston Township (Evanston, IL) product is highly decorated for a reason; he’s a ball player.

The 6-foot-2, 200-pound four-star linebacker holds 16 offers, with Notre Dame, Stanford, Arizona State, and Cincinnati among the programs.

Unfortunately, his junior year was moved from fall to the spring, but he’s taking it all in stride.

“Honestly, (COVID) did impact my recruiting in terms of building personal interactions with coaches since visits have been shut down,” said Cheeks. “I believe it’s been hard also for me especially because I feel like coming off last year I need more film. I was injured and have improved my game substantially and want to demonstrate that.”

Texas extended an offer in early September and continues to recruit the outside linebacker.

“I still hear from a multiple of schools that include Notre Dame, Texas, Ohio State, Oregon, and Stanford,” said Cheeks.

UT has made an impression on the Midwest tacking machine.

“(Texas) has a coaching staff that is down to earth and always keeps it a buck,” said Cheeks. “I have a great relationship with Coach Hutzler. I feel like I can call him anytime even when it may not be about football. He is a great role model and a family man and is someone I would love to be coached by because I know he could take me to the next level.“

The Fighting Irish lead this recruitment right now, but UT continues to push.

MICHAEL MYSLINSKI

We checked in on 2021Jacksonville (FL) Bishop Kenney O-lineman and Texas commit Michael Myslinski, whose season is already over.

“We didn’t have a very good season this year, we went 1-7,” said Myslinski. “We were in every game but couldn’t come out on top. Next year they will do a great job and really turn the corner I think. We have a sophomore QB who will be a stud! He started in our last game which was playoffs and balled out.”

At 6-foot-2 and 265 pounds, Myslinski can’t enroll early because his high school doesn’t allow it. So he’ll wait seven months until arriving in Austin.

“I was hoping to take official visits to schools but now that won’t be available which really stinks,” said Myslinski. “I wanted to meet the coaches in person.”

Even though he’s a UT pledge, other schools are still pushing.

“The colleges I still hear from the most are Iowa, Michigan State, and Maryland,” said Myslinski.

No matter how much they call, it appears Myslinski is happy where’s he’s at, and makes a point to mention how important Herb Hand is for his recruitment.

“The coach player relationship is very important to me,” Myslinski said. “Coach Hand does a great job and he was a big reason for my commitment. He’s a great guy.”

 

[Viper 12109]

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 we went 1-7,” said Myslinski. “We were in every game but couldn’t come out on top. Next year they will do a great job and really turn the corner I think. We have a sophomore QB who will be a stud! He started in our last game which was playoffs 

huh? 

[Blackcat00 759]

On 11/20/2020 at 9:03 PM, WinningIsHard said:

Shit if he gets his son in law to follow him here and flips Ewers then he only needs 3 years to win a title and walk away clean. Best coach of all time discussion with no drama. Fucking win/win for everybody involved. Let the menace take over with a turned around blue blood program. Futureman fuck your response to this so I don’t need to quote your reply. 

Also first coach to win 3 Nattys at 3 different schools. 

[WinningIsHard 4053]

45 minutes ago, Viper said:

huh? 

4 teams make the playoffs from each district now from what I understand so you can go 0-10 if you only have a 4 team district in theory. It’s pretty pathetic. 

[Dilligas 666]

7 hours ago, WinningIsHard said:

4 teams make the playoffs from each district now from what I understand so you can go 0-10 if you only have a 4 team district in theory. It’s pretty pathetic. 

Everyone gets a trophy!

[Wishbone 4763]

I’m sure it has been discussed on here, but help a guy out that’s too lazy to go through a post search, has it ever been determined what became of Machinator? Is he dead Jim……wearing a sock……acquired a henpecking wife thingy……just fed up……??

Edited November 24, 2020 by Wishbone

[Dilligas 666]

9 minutes ago, Wishbone said:

I’m sure it has been discussed on here, but help a guy out that’s too lazy to go through a post search, has it ever been determined what became of Machinator? Is he dead Jim……wearing a sock……acquired a henpecking wife thingy……just fed up……??

Have no idea but I’d guess this might be the rare occasion when “yes” is the correct answer.

[ClubWhatever 12153]

I’m guessing too many RPMs and he threw a rod.  For a while there he was posting every tweet in any way connected to Texas.  Hundreds or thousands per week.  Plus commenting on the more important ones.  Sort of trance that may have been, eh, a bit unhealthy.  Sometimes you have to flush the system, breathe some mountain air, and get healthy.  

[lemonandaturd 4285]

1 hour ago, Dilligas said:

Everyone gets a trophy!

Yes.  Way back in the day, Jasper,  WOS and Bridge City were all tied in the district going into the last week.  WOS beat Bridge City and flipped a coin with Jasper for the playoff spot.  WOS won.  All three of those teams would have made the playoffs in 2020.  

[Hermje 1]

Any chance we can still land Strickland foster or Byrd? Or are they a waste of time to think about? 

[lemonandaturd 4285]

18 minutes ago, Hermje said:

Any chance we can still land Strickland foster or Byrd? Or are they a waste of time to think about? 

Once Urban is hired, nobody is a waste of time.

[Hermje 1]

1 minute ago, lemonandaturd said:

Once Urban is hired, nobody is a waste of time.

Need to take some of these recruits from the gooners and gaggies. Especially oline.

[RGBIII 22840]

21 minutes ago, Hermje said:

Any chance we can still land Strickland foster or Byrd? Or are they a waste of time to think about? 

Strickland is blowU, Foster is BlowU or aggy, Byrd is SMU or BlowU or SEC. Herb Hand is a cancer 

[Hermje 1]

Just now, RGBIII said:

Strickland is blowU, Foster is BlowU or aggy, Byrd is SMU or BlowU or SEC. Herb Hand is a cancer 

So dumb. Something tells me we can land Strickland at least considering everyone got in on him late. Need him to visit. 

[futureman 22510]

2 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

I’m guessing too many RPMs and he threw a rod.  For a while there he was posting every tweet in any way connected to Texas.  Hundreds or thousands per week.  Plus commenting on the more important ones.   

we have someone now that does that.  kind of like a retarded, beta version of machinator, though. 

[Helobious 9464]

3 hours ago, lemonandaturd said:

Yes.  Way back in the day, Jasper,  WOS and Bridge City were all tied in the district going into the last week.  WOS beat Bridge City and flipped a coin with Jasper for the playoff spot.  WOS won.  All three of those teams would have made the playoffs in 2020.  

The horror. 

[TheBryMan81 2515]

5 hours ago, RGBIII said:

Strickland is blowU, Foster is BlowU or aggy, Byrd is SMU or BlowU or SEC. Herb Hand is a cancer 

Well, let's make sure the next guy is an Aries. Problem solved!

[Sgt Hulk 13814]

I’ve fully mentally prepped myself formTH winning out getting his dick slapped on his own face in the b12 and coming back next year

[MonkeyDoughnut 10331]

On 11/20/2020 at 7:57 PM, Thiefery said:

Makes too much sense for Urban to take this job, hire his son in law as the Co-OC/QB coach along with maybe Yurcich?  Urban then puts in 5 years here and hands over the keys to his son in law.

His son wants to now get into football coaching as well and graduates in another year. That's got to be a big help for getting Urban's family on board with him coaching again.

[TexasGary 848]

2 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

I’ve fully mentally prepped myself formTH winning out getting his dick slapped on his own face in the b12 and coming back next year

Outside of a bunch of teams losing and Texas backing into the playoffs he will not be the head coach here next year.

Imagine if we did bring him back for next year and he starts the season 1 - 2.  It's not something that I think the BMD's are willing to risk. Even if its only a 1% chance that Urban Meyer comes here I think you have to take your shot.  Who has coached here that would be considered better than Meyer since DKR?

[NoName 16364]

The Athletic: Putting Ohio State’s recruiting dominance in Texas into perspective

 

 

 

Spoiler

 

Putting Ohio State’s recruiting dominance in Texas into perspective

By Ari Wasserman Nov 23, 2020 23

Tom Herman was hired at Texas a few months before the 2017 recruiting class signed, but his nightmare had already started: Another program came into his talent-rich state and took three of the most coveted players away. Herman’s program should be the one — when things are humming — that is the natural landing spot for these elite-level prospects.

Herman was familiar with the program that had infiltrated his state, too. He helped it win a national title a few years earlier. And ironically, he was instrumental in starting the Texas-to-Ohio pipeline while an assistant under Urban Meyer from 2012-14.

You can’t blame Herman for what occurred in 2017, when Ohio State signed five-star cornerback Jeff Okudah of South Grand Prairie High, five-star linebacker Baron Browning of Kennedale High and four-star all-purpose back J.K. Dobbins of La Grange High (also a top-50 national prospect). He had, after all, not been on the job long enough to form any kind of relationship with those players.

But you can blame him that the 2017 class was not merely a blip on the radar. It’s still happening more than four years later.

On Monday evening, Ohio State earned a commitment from Class of 2022 five-star receiver Caleb Burton of Del Valle High — less than a week removed from the Buckeyes landing five-star quarterback Quinn Ewers of Southlake Carroll, the No. 2 overall player and the No. 1 quarterback in the 2022 class. Ewers was once committed to Texas, but he broke his pledge to the Longhorns less than a month ago before ultimately committing to Ryan Day and the Buckeyes. The second Ewers decommitted from Texas, Ohio State became the clear favorite to land him.

So let’s do the math here: Since 2017, Ohio State has landed seven five-star prospects out of Texas, and that doesn’t include Dobbins, who was a high four-star and the No. 46 overall player in the class. During that same span, Texas has landed only four five-star prospects in its own state.

OSU vs. UT, 5-stars from Texas since 2017

 

2022	Quinn Ewers	QB	Ohio State
2022	Caleb Burton	WR	Ohio State
2021	Donovan Jackson	OG	Ohio State
2021	Ja'Tavion Sanders	ATH	Texas
2020	Jaxon Smith-Njigba	WR	Ohio State
2019	Garrett Wilson	WR	Ohio State
2019	Jordan Whittington	ATH	Texas
2018	Cade Sterns	S	Texas
2018	B.J. Foster	S	Texas
2017	Jeff Okudah	CB	Ohio State
2017	Baron Browning	OLB	Ohio State

If you want a reason Texas isn’t “back,” this would be a good place to start.

Yes, it’s unreasonable to expect Herman to dominate his state in the same manner as other coaches at prominent state schools because Texas is an extremely difficult place to recruit. It’s an enormous state geographically, and given the depth of talent, Texas couldn’t possibly land close to all of the top players. Also, there are multiple Power 5 schools in the state — including TCU, Texas Tech, Texas A&M and Baylor — and every SEC powerhouse recruits Texas as well.

So does Ohio State, clearly.

But patterns like this? They are troublesome for Herman, especially when you’re talking about a prospect such as Ewers — a program-altering, homegrown quarterback who could be the missing link between middling around in the Big 12 and actually winning the conference, and, dare to dream, even more.

Day and his receivers coach, Brian Hartline, deserve a ton of credit for these recruiting wins. Here’s an attempt to explain just how much talent they are accumulating (and it sounds like hyperbole, though it isn’t). If you were to take only the receiver and quarterback talent the Buckeyes have either signed or have committed from 2019-22, it would be enough to prop up multiple other conferences. You read that right — conferences, not teams.

Let’s put that to the test. Each team gets two:

• Jack Miller and Jaxon Smith-Njigba

• CJ Stroud and Julian Fleming

• Kyle McCord and Caleb Burton

• Quinn Ewers and Garrett Wilson

There are the quarterback and receiver building blocks for at least four teams that could eventually lead to a conference championship. Four of the eight players listed above are from Texas. That is downright absurd.

The main reason Ohio State is an annual national title contender is how much pure talent it amasses. You may think, “Well, half of those players are going to transfer in the next few years.” Maybe so, but that means Ohio State’s 2022 roster will comprise the best versions of these elite-level prospects, all while keeping the leftovers off of a potential rival’s roster — for a few years at least. It’s pretty remarkable.

There’s no telling what the future holds for Herman, who, in fairness, has “Crystal Ball” predictions on 247Sports for two other five-star prospects in Texas in the 2022 class. But one thing is certain: It’s hard to imagine the Longhorns as a legitimate national title contender until this trend changes.

It’s truly incredible what Ohio State is doing in the Lone Star State.

It’s also very concerning for Herman and Texas.

(Photo of Garrett Wilson: Scott Taetsch / Getty Images)

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Ari Wasserman is a senior writer for The Athletic, covering college football and recruiting nationally. He previously spent 10 years covering Ohio State for The Athletic and Cleveland.com, starting on the Buckeyes beat in 2009. Follow Ari on Twitter @AriWasserman.

 

 

[futureman 22510]

5 minutes ago, TexasGary said:

Outside of a bunch of teams losing and Texas backing into the playoffs he will not be the head coach here next year.

Imagine if we did bring him back for next year and he starts the season 1 - 2.  It's not something that I think the BMD's are willing to risk. Even if its only a 1% chance that Urban Meyer comes here I think you have to take your shot.  Who has coached here that would be considered better than Meyer since DKR?

your avatar is just adorable. 

[LTtxfan 49318]

A few tidbits from different folks at 247...

“I've been screaming this for the last few months. Texas is going to sign the lowest rated prospect they've offered at each position.“ - Mike Roach

Another user posted this in a different thread...
When I said this is the worst offensive recruiting at Texas since David McWilliams, I wasn’t joking.

Here is a breakdown by position:

• QB: UT commit is the lowest ranked of 6 offered (ranked 1077)

• RB: UT commit is the lowest ranked of 7 offered (ranked 479)

• WR: UT commits ranked 22 and 30th out of 31 offered (ranked 373 and 948)

• TE: UT commit is the lowest ranked of 9 offered (ranked 646)

• OT: UT commits ranked 7 and 13 out of 14 offered (ranked 330 and 1059)

• OG: no commitments out of 5 offers

• OC: UT commit lowest ranked of 3 offered (ranked 1049)

Decommits in this class include:

• QB Jalen Milroe (ranked 83)

• WR Quay Davis (ranked 108)

• TE Lake McCree (ranked 469)

• TE Landon King (ranked 579)

• QB Quinn Ewers (ranked 2 - 2022)

• WR Phaizon Wilson (ranked 245 - 2022)

 

Edited November 24, 2020 by LTtxfan

[satyanash 14569]

1 hour ago, NoName said:

What did you think of this story?

MEH

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#$@&%*!

[satyanash 14569]

Mike at Night: Why elite prospects keep leaving the state

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Texas high school football players don’t want to stay in Texas anymore. At least not the elite ones. There was a time that this was inconceivable. If they did leave the state borders it was understandably to a regional rival like Oklahoma or LSU. Now, kids are leaving their families and flying across the country to play college football, and it’s hard to blame them.

Over the past five cycles, half of the prospects in the Texas Top 10 decided to leave the state. Of those prospects who stayed, Texas only signed 13. A big percentage of that number was bolstered by the 2018 class in which the Longhorns locked down the elites in Tom Herman’s first cycle. The larger fact remains that it’s difficult to criticize kids for going elsewhere.

Do you want to win? The best a team in Texas has done in the postseason was the Longhorns’ Sugar Bowl victory over Georgia in 2019. Do you want to get developed and play in the NFL. Texas A&M and TCU have had years with higher than normal numbers, but no school in the state can compete with the elite programs in the country.

During the last five years, no two schools have victimized the in-state powers more than Alabama and Ohio State. Over the past five years, those schools combined to take 10 of those Texas Top 10 prospects. What do they have in common? Winning and development. Sure we can write stories about recruiting rainmakers, and to a point they matter, but the two key components of winning and development are usually central to strong recruiting results.

Over the past decade, Texas has just three Top 25 finishes with one in the Top 10. Texas A&M has just four Top 25 finishes with one in the Top 10 and another opportunity to do so this year as the Aggies are ranked No. 5. Baylor has five Top 25 finishes with one in the top 10 and TCU had the most impressive run with 5 Top 25 finishes and four in the Top 10.

Fair or unfair, this falls on Texas and Texas A&M. As the two major powers in the state, lackluster results by and large left the most talent-rich state in the country vulnerable to outsiders. 2022 is already off to a hot start for the Buckeyes in Texas. In the last week, Ohio State landed five-star Texans Quinn Ewers and Caleb Burton. Ewers was a former Texas commit the Longhorns held on to for a little over a month and Burton is an Austin native the Longhorns were hoping to keep at home. He will join former Lake Travis wide receiver Garrett Wilson in Columbus.

If this is upsetting to fans of schools in this state, it’s understandable. While it’s common for fans to question a kid’s loyalty to their home state, they rarely question the contributing factors that led them there. While it’s a novel idea and admirable for a kid to want to stay home and change the path of a program, we’ve seen that story play out over the last ten years and ultimately end up nowhere.

Programs in Texas have a battle on their hands, or we will continue to watch our favorite high school players leave the Lone Star State for better opportunities. Elite kids don’t want to stay in Texas, and it’s tough to blame them for that right now.

 

[Handcruser 2805]

Hmmmm. Thinks appear to be looking pretty bad. I think a change is in order.


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[LTtxfan 49318]

On a positive note to help this thread...

 

[ClubWhatever 12153]

Yeah that article is basically Exhibit A for needing a new HC*.

 

*If you want to win

[Blackcat00 759]

Recruiting at a high level is a big part of a head coaches job. Tom is failing massively in that dept. and should be one of the reasons he is let go. If I were him I would look at the South Carolina job and get in the SEC before his ship is really sunk. Texas is just too toxic now that he has lost his AD, the fans, donors and apparently Sam. 

Edited November 24, 2020 by Blackcat00

[BigHorn'13 3384]

17 minutes ago, Blackcat00 said:

Recruiting at a high level is a big part of a head coaches job. Tom is failing massively in that dept. and should be one of the reasons he is let go. If I were him I would look at the South Carolina job and get in the SEC before his ship is really sunk. Texas is just too toxic now that he has lost his AD, the fans, donors and apparently Sam. 

No, Tom Herman is toxic because of the product on the field and his own arrogance and ignorance on the subject.