Texas Recruiting Notes 2021

[RGBIII 22840]

1 minute ago, RGBIII said:

 

 

[Message Board User 12395]

10 hours ago, RGBIII said:

After almost being ready to make the decision, Cain stalled one last time and Herman “blew his top” on him in a phone call. From that moment, the decision for Cain to move on and pick Penn State became easy and left a bad taste in the mouth of Cain’s parents.

This is pretty much verbatim what ctj told us over a year ago re: Cain recruitment.

[Fondren & Main 6726]

Perhaps Bowman should’ve waited for NSD2...

[golfclap 6903]

4 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Perhaps Bowman should’ve waited for NSD2...

Undefeated means undefeated. 

[Fondren & Main 6726]

7 minutes ago, golfclap said:

Undefeated means undefeated. 

Well, unless you’re Adele.  Then, you gotta take the L.

[Mason Ramsey 3385]

 

The kid is extremely talented on both sides of the ball, but with Davis and Helm also in this class (with Davis I see as more of a TE than any other position), I feel like Sanders should be working at Jack

If you look at Davis and Sanders, both being ATH and projecting to TE/Jack, Sanders is the better pass rusher and Davis is the better TE imo.

[BrazilHorn 6619]

2 hours ago, RGBIII said:

 

Someone should tell Sanders Brewer has TE locked down. 

[NoName 16356]

10 hours ago, Mason Ramsey said:

The kid is extremely talented on both sides of the ball, but with Davis and Helm also in this class (with Davis I see as more of a TE than any other position), I feel like Sanders should be working at Jack

If you look at Davis and Sanders, both being ATH and projecting to TE/Jack, Sanders is the better pass rusher and Davis is the better TE imo.

Sanders may love offense but being a top 5 rush end pays a lot more than a top 5 TE

[ClubWhatever 12151]

1 minute ago, NoName said:

Sanders may love offense but being a top 5 rush end pays a lot more than a top 5 TE

Why not bofe?

[crash_davis 23114]

11 hours ago, BrazilHorn said:

Someone should tell Sanders Brewer has TE locked down. 

well duh. YACs increase the chance of injury. best to fall down after first touch.

[Machinator 32099]

Not sure if this belongs here but I know some people want us to consider him if LJ doesn't select Texas.

 

[texifornia 57024]

1 minute ago, Machinator said:

Not sure if this belongs here but I know some people want us to consider him if LJ doesn't select Texas.

 

Huh. Dude must really like being close to home I guess.

[Schulz2.0 28966]

24 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Not sure if this belongs here but I know some people want us to consider him if LJ doesn't select Texas.

 

Signed his LOI with them, per Gerry Hamilton.

[Viper 12109]

26 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Signed his LOI with them, per Gerry Hamilton.

I didn't think you could do that until NSD2

[RGBIII 22840]

34 minutes ago, Viper said:

I didn't think you could do that until NSD2

He signed in the first window, just didnt announce till now

[Viper 12109]

2 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

He signed in the first window, just didnt announce till now

ah, I didn't realize. Thanks

[texifornia 57024]

Mond is off to the draft. Time for the Cryptkeeper to take the keys.

[Bevo14 8343]

2 hours ago, texifornia said:

Mond is off to the draft. Time for the Cryptkeeper to take the keys.

Anybody ever figure out why that kid had such a terrible senior year?

[totallynotabuttpirate 5400]

I've been out of the game since OU, what's the word on LJ? 

[El Compadre 767]

5 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

I've been out of the game since OU, what's the word on LJ? 

According to TFB, it's between aggies and Texas. Supposedly it's a "head vs heart" struggle for him. He loves Texas but recent aggy success has him thinking them. I believe Gerry said he thinks we may have a slight lead. He was supposed to enroll in January but will sign in February.

tldr: Basically no one knows shit except it's down to us 2.

[Hiphopopotamos 20876]

9 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

I've been out of the game since OU, what's the word on LJ? 

Heart says Texas, head says aggy.  We're still in it and might have even taken a very small lead by retaining Drayton.  We'll know very soon as he plans to early enroll.

[RGBIII 22840]

Folks seem to think this is trending favorably for Texas

[ClubWhatever 12151]

5 hours ago, Bevo14 said:

Anybody ever figure out why that kid had such a terrible senior year?

Was there talk about a bum shoulder?  I watched a couple of his games.  Either he was injured, or he’s terrible.  Was skipping balls to people from 20 yards out.  

[Michael Knight 12989]

if your head says aggy then get evaluated for a concussion

[RGBIII 22840]

4 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

Was there talk about a bum shoulder?  I watched a couple of his games.  Either he was injured, or he’s terrible.  Was skipping balls to people from 20 yards out.  

I think that team lost a TON of talent too

[Tex Pete 20402]

Yep. He was just a game manager as a junior with tons of talent all over the place. Most of their play makers graduated and voila! he sucked. 
 

i do think he fits what Jimbo wants- a point guard to distribute the ball and limit mistakes. 

[futureman 22491]

what happened to calzada

[RGBIII 22840]

2 hours ago, futureman said:

what happened to calzada

[LTtxfan 49283]

 

[Machinator 32099]

 

[Radical Larry 28648]

Well that beats the shit out of the turkey sandwich I had for lunch.

[Richter 2261]

Hope no one is carpooling with him.

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

Gerry Hamilton

 

IT Recruiting Matters: L.J., C.J. and 2022 nuggets

Inside Texas is going to take everyone on a bit of whip around today with nuggets and the latest covering Texas recruiting, a key note in 2022 WR recruiting, a number of nuggets.

Closing time for L.J. Johnson:
From a source in the Houston area, the recruitment of L.J. Johnson is seemingly trending towards the Longhorns since the hire of Steve Sarkisian and the news likely that Alabama offensive line coach Kyle Flood will be joining Sarkisian. Texas and the Cy Fair running back have spoken daily since the hiring of Sarkisian. Those that have spoken with Johnson are Sarkisian and Drayton together on a call, as well as chats with Drayton separate, Bryan Carrington and Brandon Harris. The long standing relationships with Drayton, Carrington and Harris are huge here if the Longhorns win out over Texas A&M. In the days leading up to the dismissal of Tom Herman, Herman had tried to reach out to Johnson, but Johnson never called him back. Texas A&M was trending at that point. Oklahoma continues to try and work their way back into the recruitment following the loss of Camar Wheaton to Alabama, but it doesn't seem likely. In a recruitment that has swung back-and--forth between the Longhorns and Aggies in recent weeks, Texas looks to be trending favorably this week.

Keithron Lee all Texas:
Inside Texas caught up with Keithron Lee this morning. When asked about his commitment to the Longhorns, Lee said …

“It is one-hundred percent.”

Lee has yet to speak with Sarkisian, but has been studying the Alabama offense, and is excited the possibilities for him as a receiver. Lee has maintained contact with Andre Coleman.

[texifornia 57024]

14 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Gerry Hamilton

 

IT Recruiting Matters: L.J., C.J. and 2022 nuggets

Inside Texas is going to take everyone on a bit of whip around today with nuggets and the latest covering Texas recruiting, a key note in 2022 WR recruiting, a number of nuggets.

Closing time for L.J. Johnson:
From a source in the Houston area, the recruitment of L.J. Johnson is seemingly trending towards the Longhorns since the hire of Steve Sarkisian and the news likely that Alabama offensive line coach Kyle Flood will be joining Sarkisian. Texas and the Cy Fair running back have spoken daily since the hiring of Sarkisian. Those that have spoken with Johnson are Sarkisian and Drayton together on a call, as well as chats with Drayton separate, Bryan Carrington and Brandon Harris. The long standing relationships with Drayton, Carrington and Harris are huge here if the Longhorns win out over Texas A&M. In the days leading up to the dismissal of Tom Herman, Herman had tried to reach out to Johnson, but Johnson never called him back. Texas A&M was trending at that point. Oklahoma continues to try and work their way back into the recruitment following the loss of Camar Wheaton to Alabama, but it doesn't seem likely. In a recruitment that has swung back-and--forth between the Longhorns and Aggies in recent weeks, Texas looks to be trending favorably this week.

Keithron Lee all Texas:
Inside Texas caught up with Keithron Lee this morning. When asked about his commitment to the Longhorns, Lee said …

“It is one-hundred percent.”

Lee has yet to speak with Sarkisian, but has been studying the Alabama offense, and is excited the possibilities for him as a receiver. Lee has maintained contact with Andre Coleman.

Love hearing Carrington and Harris involved. Coleman is just being a pro, I guess.

[JPETERMAN 111]

17 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

In the days leading up to the dismissal of Tom Herman, Herman had tried to reach out to Johnson, but Johnson never called him back. Texas A&M was trending at that point. 

And this is why the outrage from the national media, i.e. Joey Galloway is completely stupid.  Giving Herman more time to turn it around was never really an option.  I'll take a 1-2 day hit in the headlines all day long for not being fair or giving him enough time to turn things around.  Things would only have gotten worse by retaining him, as you all know.  But seeing the above is still pretty shocking tbh.

[closetojumping 62749]

35 minutes ago, JPETERMAN said:

And this is why the outrage from the national media, i.e. Joey Galloway is completely stupid.  Giving Herman more time to turn it around was never really an option.  I'll take a 1-2 day hit in the headlines all day long for not being fair or giving him enough time to turn things around.  Things would only have gotten worse by retaining him, as you all know.  But seeing the above is still pretty shocking tbh.

I haven’t paid attention. Has there been some sort of media blowback about Herman? What’s the Galloway story?

[Ricky's one-hitter 9117]

7 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

What’s the Galloway story?

https://247sports.com/Article/Texas-Longhorns-recruiting-Steve-Sarkisian-Tom-Herman-Joey-Galloway-develop-players-158571007/

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"The question is when you say recruiting, and it makes me wonder how attractive this Texas job is," Galloway said this week. "Since Mack Brown was there they've been in a struggle. Charlie Strong only got three seasons to get it done; then you got Tom Herman gets four seasons to get it done. When you're talking college football, and it takes time to recruit, within three years you have to hit home runs right now, young guys that can come in and play. They're not giving people a chance to develop players.

"It's like college football, not just a Texas, but everywhere is trending in that direction where you got three or four years to get it done. It takes longer than that when you're a program like Texas that has struggled for years. It takes longer to flip that roster."

 

[JPETERMAN 111]

3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I haven’t paid attention. Has there been some sort of media blowback about Herman? What’s the Galloway story?

When news broke that Herman was getting canned Saturday, Galloway was the most outspoken that I saw on the halftime shows etc. with his initial take about how you have to give coaches time for them to win because they need a chance to get their players in place, blah blah blah.  Said Texas was impatient because we only gave Herman 4 years, after only giving Strong 3.  It just isn't fair to them.  Basically implied we should have kept Mack Brown and we just  have unrealistic expectations.  That kind of crap.

[closetojumping 62749]

Thanks. Yeah, I’m of the opinion that, in today’s CFB world, if you’re haven’t gotten it done by year 3, you’re not going to get it done. Might be some exceptions, but I’ll stick with that premise. National guys can talk to people around a program and get a feel. Either Galloway didn’t do his homework before that rant or he didn’t want what he knew getting in the way of a good rundown. Another year of Herman and we’re looking at a two class average of probably 50-ish. 

[KYHorn 17094]

When I first heard it, it sounded like he was more upset about Strong (real dumb). I think he kept trying to lower the number of years Strong actually got. Look objectively at the situation when either were fired, and it is abundantly clear they both had to go to avoid desert wandering for years longer.

Edited January 8, 2021 by KYHorn

[texifornia 57024]

3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Thanks. Yeah, I’m of the opinion that, in today’s CFB world, if you’re haven’t gotten it done by year 3, you’re not going to get it done. Might be some exceptions, but I’ll stick with that premise. National guys can talk to people around a program and get a feel. Either Galloway didn’t do his homework before that rant or he didn’t want what he knew getting in the way of a good rundown. Another year of Herman and we’re looking at a two class average of probably 50-ish. 

It felt like was told to be the bad cop so there'd be a "debate" with him and Jesse Palmer.

[cafe society 2872]

Galloway living in the past, in the what-used-to-be, what-should-be world. Successful programs have to live in the here and now.

[Tylerocks 2553]

The narrative/insinuation of national media types that Charlie Strong wasn't given enough time is fucking infuriating.  He was the worst coach IN THE HISTORY OF TEXAS FOOTBALL.  

He wasn't on the brink of being better or developing anyone. He was even worse in year 3 than he was in year 1.

GTFOH

[cafe society 2872]

1 minute ago, Tylerocks said:

The narrative/insinuation of national media types that Charlie Strong wasn't given enough time is fucking infuriating.  He was the worst coach IN THE HISTORY OF TEXAS FOOTBALL.  

He wasn't on the brink of being better or developing anyone. He was even worse in year 3 than he was in year 1.

GTFOH

They clearly didn't watch any of our games under Strong.  

[Ricky's one-hitter 9117]

1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

Thanks. Yeah, I’m of the opinion that, in today’s CFB world, if you’re haven’t gotten it done by year 3, you’re not going to get it done. Might be some exceptions, but I’ll stick with that premise. National guys can talk to people around a program and get a feel. Either Galloway didn’t do his homework before that rant or he didn’t want what he knew getting in the way of a good rundown. Another year of Herman and we’re looking at a two class average of probably 50-ish. 

He is apparently under the impression that a coach only deserves to be fired if the roster is devoid of talent. Galloway was also recruited in a time where high school prospects didn't develop Twitter induced hive-mind which would have destroyed any of Herman's subsequent classes.

 

[Scholz 11944]

Remember not being able to kick an extra point under Strong? Or defer a coin flip? I member.

[JPETERMAN 111]

2 minutes ago, Tylerocks said:

The narrative/insinuation of national media types that Charlie Strong wasn't given enough time is fucking infuriating.  He was the worst coach IN THE HISTORY OF TEXAS FOOTBALL.  

He wasn't on the brink of being better or developing anyone. He was even worse in year 3 than he was in year 1.

GTFOH

Hell  South Florida even realized he had to go after 3 years.    Nice guy.  WAY over his head.   Galloway clearly has no feel for it and is just talking off the top of his head.  Still annoying.

 

[Bevo 13579]

10 minutes ago, JPETERMAN said:

When news broke that Herman was getting canned Saturday, Galloway was the most outspoken that I saw on the halftime shows etc. with his initial take about how you have to give coaches time for them to win because they need a chance to get their players in place, blah blah blah.  Said Texas was impatient because we only gave Herman 4 years, after only giving Strong 3.  It just isn't fair to them.  Basically implied we should have kept Mack Brown and we just  have unrealistic expectations.  That kind of crap.

I've heard the same argument from Ohio State fans. But if you ask them if their team continued to lose to their rivals if they would keep their head coach, they pause. No way any top programs would accept such results. It is just blather.

[TrashMaster G 17568]

3 minutes ago, Scholz said:

Remember not being able to kick an extra point under Strong? Or defer a coin flip? I member.

I remember three consecutive losing seasons.

Galloway can get bent.

[Laga4 1270]

12 minutes ago, JPETERMAN said:

When news broke that Herman was getting canned Saturday, Galloway was the most outspoken that I saw on the halftime shows etc. with his initial take about how you have to give coaches time for them to win because they need a chance to get their players in place, blah blah blah.  Said Texas was impatient because we only gave Herman 4 years, after only giving Strong 3.  It just isn't fair to them.  Basically implied we should have kept Mack Brown and we just  have unrealistic expectations.  That kind of crap.

The national TV guys don't know as much about one particular school as average guy that reads the recruiting board from his school.

There are probably 50 guys on this board that know more about Texas recruiting than Galloway,  Herbie or any of the ESPN talking heads.