Texas Recruiting Notes 2021

[lemonandaturd 4285]

Just now, Burt Macklin said:

 

If the shoe fits, steal it.  

[Machinator 32099]

Are there any other RBs worth looking at if we miss on both LJ and Wheaton? I'm tired of entering the season short a player or two at that position.

[Funk Doctor Spock 12459]

It'll be Bijan > Rojo > Brooks in that order this year. I hate to even say this, but sometimes competition doesn't matter. See Josh Jacobs. 

I'm not even insinuating that Brooks is Jacobs, just saying the jump can happen and he won't have to be "the guy" immediately. I'm sure he'll play plenty which will help down the line. 

[Hank_Hill 18893]

Wheaton fucking flys compared to Carter on tape and actually has the ball in his hands. But yea, not Charles.

Edited January 15, 2021 by Hank_Hill

[rvm96 1643]

1 hour ago, JPETERMAN said:

Small school.  Whittington was awesome as a QB running it too.  

Since when was Jordan Whittington a QB in HS???????

[Mdhorn 5976]

14 minutes ago, rvm96 said:

Since when was Jordan Whittington a QB in HS???????

Also, I dunno about Whittington carrying the ball at rb.  Dude is always banged up, even playing slot.  

Edited January 15, 2021 by Mdhorn

[Hornlover 8830]

4 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

Comparable and the same are different things. He'd be the fastest top end RB we've had since that's for sure. 

DJ Monroe ran in the 10.4's  in high school, but was criminally underutilized at RB.

greg_davis_4th_and_five.jpg 

[Fud 9552]

Probably wishful thinking, but with the Ingram transfer, I'd be selling potentially being the third stringer to early enrollee LJ Johnson 

[Katfid54 8635]

3 minutes ago, Fud said:

Probably wishful thinking, but with the Ingram transfer, I'd be selling potentially being the third stringer to early enrollee LJ Johnson 

I love RoJo and his selflessness, but if LJ came, he would pass RoJo on the depth chart by the end of the year--just like Bijan did.

[Katfid54 8635]

7 hours ago, lemonandaturd said:

about his natural  3A talent

Is this satire?

[Fud 9552]

1 minute ago, Katfid54 said:

I love RoJo and his selflessness, but if LJ came, he would pass RoJo on the depth chart by the end of the year--just like Bijan did.

That's possible, but I'm not sure if it's likely

[Thiefery 5016]

Brooks an early enrollee by chance? 

[Katfid54 8635]

N/a

Edited January 15, 2021 by Katfid54
Moved to transfer thread

[texifornia 57036]

6 hours ago, Machinator said:

Are there any other RBs worth looking at if we miss on both LJ and Wheaton? I'm tired of entering the season short a player or two at that position.

The top transfer name currently out there is actually a familiar one - Deondrick Glass: https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Football/TransferPortal/

That said, we're not even midway through transfer season. Likely to be more names coming out.

High school backs are largely locked up: https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=highschool&Position=RB

Wonder if the Judson kid at #53 is any good?

Edited January 15, 2021 by texifornia

[Fud 9552]

7 hours ago, Machinator said:

Are there any other RBs worth looking at if we miss on both LJ and Wheaton? I'm tired of entering the season short a player or two at that position.

I get 2021 season depth concerns, but I think we'll only take transfers if they're clear starters. I think Sark is going to inject elite talent into the program in recruiting and in the transfer market, and any transfers we take for depth are directly taking a spot away from recruiting elite transfers. I believe we have six spots left if Ibra and the WR commit sign, and some of those spots might be saved for next year's class/transfers 

[Lonestar88 4699]

If we don’t sign LJ or Wheaton, then Brooks is likely to get some run sooner than later.

There are small school kids who make the adjustment every year. I won’t  pretend to know how Brooks will do, but some of y’all are acting like it’s unprecedented, and that’s stupid.
 

The kid did what you were supposed to do against inferior talent, he dominated.
 

 

[texifornia 57036]

5 minutes ago, Lonestar88 said:

If we don’t sign LJ or Wheaton, then Brooks is likely to get some run sooner than later.

There are small school kids who make the adjustment every year. I won’t  pretend to know how Brooks will do, but some of y’all are acting like it’s unprecedented, and that’s stupid.
 

The kid did what you were supposed to do against inferior talent, he dominated.
 

 

It's not that Brooks will be bad or anything, it's the implication that he's going to hit campus after playing kids from small-town schools and immediately be better than RoJo. There's almost definitely going to be an adjustment period.

[Viper 12111]

7 minutes ago, texifornia said:

It's not that Brooks will be bad or anything, it's the implication that he's going to hit campus after playing kids from small-town schools and immediately be better than RoJo. There's almost definitely going to be an adjustment period.

people forget there was an adjustment period for Bijan as well. His runs at the end of the year were much different than his runs at the beginning. 

[NoName 16367]

6 hours ago, Hornlover said:

DJ Monroe ran in the 10.4's  in high school, but was criminally underutilized at RB.

greg_davis_4th_and_five.jpg 

i got you

[Lonestar88 4699]

15 minutes ago, texifornia said:

It's not that Brooks will be bad or anything, it's the implication that he's going to hit campus after playing kids from small-town schools and immediately be better than RoJo. There's almost definitely going to be an adjustment period.

Well yeah, he’s not going to be better than Rojo his first year. No one who is reasonable expects that. 
 

I don’t think LJ or Wheaton would immediately surpass Rojo either. Rojo is a solid #2 back.

[BornOrange 1441]

7 hours ago, rvm96 said:

Since when was Jordan Whittington a QB in HS???????

The only high school game I ever saw him play was his senior year state championship game.

He got quite a few direct snaps in that game.....like he was playing QB.

Yeah, yeah. He was technically a WR.....but he sure lined up a lot as a RB and even a QB.

[Fud 9552]

Looking at a potential two class WR stack for us, and one WR sticks out like a sore thumb

2021:
Xavier Worthy
Jaden Alexis
Keithron Lee
Casey Cain

2022:
Evan Stewart
Brenen Thompson
Armani Winfield
Chris Marshall/Jordan Hudson/Caleb Burton/random OOS stud

[nycHorn 3038]

Looking at a potential two class WR stack for us, and one WR sticks out like a sore thumb

2021:
Xavier Worthy
Jaden Alexis
Keithron Lee
Casey Cain

2022:
Evan Stewart
Brenen Thompson
Armani Winfield
Chris Marshall/Jordan Hudson/Caleb Burton/random OOS stud

Is worthy a realistic option? I guess if he gets out of his LOI then anything is possible.

[closetojumping 62769]

55 minutes ago, Fud said:

I get 2021 season depth concerns, but I think we'll only take transfers if they're clear starters. I think Sark is going to inject elite talent into the program in recruiting and in the transfer market, and any transfers we take for depth are directly taking a spot away from recruiting elite transfers. I believe we have six spots left if Ibra and the WR commit sign, and some of those spots might be saved for next year's class/transfers 

Given just ... everything, I haven’t kept up with numbers the way I normally would. If guys like Mpagi and the back from Georgia with the head injury wind up going med schol and there’s some usual attrition associated with a new staff, will Texas not be able to max out a class in this upcoming cycle? 

3 minutes ago, Fud said:

Looking at a potential two class WR stack for us, and one WR sticks out like a sore thumb

2021:
Xavier Worthy
Jaden Alexis
Keithron Lee
Casey Cain

2022:
Evan Stewart
Brenen Thompson
Armani Winfield
Chris Marshall/Jordan Hudson/Caleb Burton/random OOS stud

Same with this one. I checked out in the spring and haven’t caught up with viewing recruits/signees yet, so who is it that you’re thinking actually sticks out? Cain?

[Fud 9552]

Just now, nycHorn said:

Is worthy a realistic option? I guess if he gets out of his LOI then anything is possible.

There's not a lot of info out there to go by, but Michigan only has a few more days to get him enrolled at the most I think, and it seems like Texas makes the most sense if he goes elsewhere since Bama finished 2nd in that recruitment

[BurntOrangeBlooded15 1566]

5 minutes ago, Fud said:

Looking at a potential two class WR stack for us, and one WR sticks out like a sore thumb

2021:
Xavier Worthy
Jaden Alexis
Keithron Lee
Casey Cain

2022:
Evan Stewart
Brenen Thompson
Armani Winfield
Chris Marshall/Jordan Hudson/Caleb Burton/random OOS stud

The nascar driver? 

[JPETERMAN 111]

7 hours ago, rvm96 said:

Since when was Jordan Whittington a QB in HS???????

Well he ran for 334 yards in the title game mainly from the QB position, and that is what led us to decide he could be a RB instead of a WR when he came in as a freshman because Brown was our other RB signee and had a medical issue.  

[Fud 9552]

Just now, closetojumping said:

Given just ... everything, I haven’t kept up with numbers the way I normally would. If guys like Mpagi and the back from Georgia with the head injury wind up going med schol and there’s some usual attrition associated with a new staff, will Texas not be able to max out a class in this upcoming cycle? 

Same with this one. I checked out in the spring and haven’t caught up with viewing recruits/signees yet, so who is it that you’re thinking actually sticks out? Cain?

The limit is due to the 25 counter per class number, so attrition doesn't help there. After Black, Schooler, Watson, Ibraheem, Lee, and Dunn are included, I came up with six spots available, which can be used now or later in 2022. Others can check my math in they want. 

Cain seems Jordan Pouncy'ish to me. Worthy is a bit of a leap of faith; he's an early enrollee who's apparently having trouble getting into Michigan early because of some mid-year requirement they have that other schools don't, and word is he'll look elsewhere if he can't get in. Bama finished second in his recruitment, and word is he's interested in Texas if not Michigan 

[JPETERMAN 111]

7 hours ago, Mdhorn said:

Also, I dunno about Whittington carrying the ball at rb.  Dude is always banged up, even playing slot.  

Agree.  Wasn't arguing for Whittington to be moved back to RB.  Was simply stating that we can't count on Brooks to be a stud next year.  Small school high school ball surprisingly doesn't necessarily translate to immediate college success.  Doesn't mean Brooks can't be great.  Just means there is going to be a period of adjustment and we shouldn't count on him for immediate help.  

[BurntOrange&White 39944]

9 hours ago, JPETERMAN said:

Small school.  Whittington was awesome as a QB running it too.  Brooks can be great.  He's got balance and vision.  That is a great skillset.  But what used to be a hole in his games vs small school teams, isn't going to be a hole going forward.   It's not his fault or a sign that he can't figure it out.   It's just going to take time to adjust.  

 Another thing is he won't be able to power through tacklers like he did at that level. 

[BornOrange 1441]

21 minutes ago, Fud said:

There's not a lot of info out there to go by, but Michigan only has a few more days to get him enrolled at the most I think, and it seems like Texas makes the most sense if he goes elsewhere since Bama finished 2nd in that recruitment

1. Did he sign a LOI with Michigan?
2. If he did, isn't he bound to Michigan unless they release him from the LOI?
3. Even if they don't let him enroll early, the LOI is the same for early and late signees, isn't it?

[Fud 9552]

Just now, BornOrange said:

1. Did he sign a LOI with Michigan?
2. If he did, isn't he bound to Michigan unless they release him from the LOI?
3. Even if they don't let him enroll early, the LOI is the same for early and late signees, isn't it?

Yes, yes, and yes. But it's a really bad look on Michigan's part if they don't release a kid who wants to enroll early, but who isn't getting in when they told him that he'd get in. They'd basically just be delaying the inevitable out of spite. I'm not sure the mechanics of what he'd do next, is he allowed to enter the portal yet? 

[texifornia 57036]

Random note - I wonder if Dorian Singer's offer is still commitable: https://247sports.com/player/dorian-singer-46086807/

[BornOrange 1441]

3 minutes ago, Fud said:

Yes, yes, and yes. But it's a really bad look on Michigan's part if they don't release a kid who wants to enroll early, but who isn't getting in when they told him that he'd get in. They'd basically just be delaying the inevitable out of spite. I'm not sure the mechanics of what he'd do next, is he allowed to enter the portal yet? 

I guess it's a matter of how open they were with him.

If he knew about the early qualification issues and still signed, Michigan would be just in saying he knew what he was getting into and should wait until the summer.

If he didn't know about the early qualification issues, Michigan should release him from his LOI.

[JPETERMAN 111]

9 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 Another thing is he won't be able to power through tacklers like he did at that level. 

Yep.  And he likely won't even be on the field that much until he proves he can pick up blitzes.  He wasn't ever asked to do that in high school.  Their offense was give it to Brooks and get out of the way.  I don't necessarily agree with how long our coaches have historically held out freshman for their perceived lack of knowledge or what have you.  But there is certainly a learning curve.  That is part of the reason Bijan didn't get as much play early on as well.  ROJO is going to be the #2 back next year.  Which is fine because he is pretty darn good.  Doesn't mean Brooks can't be good long term.  It just is what is is.  

[Fud 9552]

2 minutes ago, BornOrange said:

I guess it's a matter of how open they were with him.

If he knew about the early qualification issues and still signed, Michigan would be just in saying he knew what he was getting into and should wait until the summer.

If he didn't know about the early qualification issues, Michigan should release him from his LOI.

Here's the Michigan 247 post and thread, for those who want to follow

Spoiler

Lots of rumblings on this front for the last couple of days out of the Pylon event. Xavier wasn't there, but that's where and when it picked up steam. Made it over to 247's Texas site referenced in a post below.

Here's what I can tell you... it's a delicate situation that is being worked on. No amount of reporting on it, or calling/messaging the kid about it will speed things up. As a matter of fact, that could upset the situation. It already has (not due to anything done by anyone here thankfully). You won't see me writing on this until the outcome is settled.

The scenarios are as follows...

Best case scenario: they get the early enrollment figured out.

Compromise scenario: Early enrollment doesn't get worked out, but he sticks with Michigan and reports in the summer with the rest of the class.

Worst case scenario: he asks out of his NLI and early enrolls elsewhere.

I think the compromise scenario is the most likely. Time will tell.

Will post more on this when I can.

https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Board/102410/Contents/On-the-Xavier-Worthy-questionsposts-158993155/

And here's Roach's post on it

— I spoke to a source today who indicated that Texas might be in play for a Michigan signee. Four-star Fresno (Calif.) Central East wide receiver Xavier Worthy chose the Wolverines but flirted with the idea of flipping to Alabama before signing day. I'm told there may be an issue with Worthy enrolling early at Michigan, and he could ask for a release from his letter. If that happens, I'm told Texas is a strong candidate. Steve Sarkisian was his primary recruiter at Alabama and a huge reason he gave the Crimson Tide some consideration down the stretch. There are still a lot of what ifs to take place, but this is an intriguing storyline to watch for the Longhorns.

 

 

[IDIOTsavant 8501]

1 hour ago, texifornia said:

High school backs are largely locked up: https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=highschool&Position=RB

The Hargrave kid out of Ruston was getting some looks from posters here a while back. Wonder if we could jump into that recruitment if need be.

[Katfid54 8635]

1 hour ago, Viper said:

there was an adjustment period for Bijan as well.

This is quite an understatement, given that folks were worried that he fucking paralyzed himself in the Tech game by trying to jump over a defender.

[theaveragejon 988]

2 hours ago, texifornia said:

The top transfer name currently out there is actually a familiar one - Deondrick Glass: https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Football/TransferPortal/

That said, we're not even midway through transfer season. Likely to be more names coming out.

High school backs are largely locked up: https://247sports.com/Season/2021-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=highschool&Position=RB

Wonder if the Judson kid at #53 is any good?

What do I say. Never sign a Katy RB. 

[closetojumping 62769]

It would be a very fucking big deal if Worthy actually somehow wound up here. That dude is FOF and we need speed. 

[RGBIII 22840]

1 hour ago, Fud said:

Here's the Michigan 247 post and thread, for those who want to follow

  Hide contents

Lots of rumblings on this front for the last couple of days out of the Pylon event. Xavier wasn't there, but that's where and when it picked up steam. Made it over to 247's Texas site referenced in a post below.

Here's what I can tell you... it's a delicate situation that is being worked on. No amount of reporting on it, or calling/messaging the kid about it will speed things up. As a matter of fact, that could upset the situation. It already has (not due to anything done by anyone here thankfully). You won't see me writing on this until the outcome is settled.

The scenarios are as follows...

Best case scenario: they get the early enrollment figured out.

Compromise scenario: Early enrollment doesn't get worked out, but he sticks with Michigan and reports in the summer with the rest of the class.

Worst case scenario: he asks out of his NLI and early enrolls elsewhere.

I think the compromise scenario is the most likely. Time will tell.

Will post more on this when I can.

https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Board/102410/Contents/On-the-Xavier-Worthy-questionsposts-158993155/

And here's Roach's post on it

— I spoke to a source today who indicated that Texas might be in play for a Michigan signee. Four-star Fresno (Calif.) Central East wide receiver Xavier Worthy chose the Wolverines but flirted with the idea of flipping to Alabama before signing day. I'm told there may be an issue with Worthy enrolling early at Michigan, and he could ask for a release from his letter. If that happens, I'm told Texas is a strong candidate. Steve Sarkisian was his primary recruiter at Alabama and a huge reason he gave the Crimson Tide some consideration down the stretch. There are still a lot of what ifs to take place, but this is an intriguing storyline to watch for the Longhorns.

 

 

Yes please, we need this dudes speed. Would immediately be the best receiver in the 21 class. Please fuck this up Michigan 

[texifornia 57036]

18 hours ago, texifornia said:

Interesting. It's so late it's gotta be commitable.

https://247sports.com/player/jkolbe-bulock-46084997/

 

Smart kid. He jumped on it.

@golfclap you tend to know some of the under-the-radar recruits in the state - any insight into this kid?

Edited January 15, 2021 by texifornia

[crash_davis 23114]

1 minute ago, texifornia said:

Smart kid. He jumped on it.

 

that's a fucking strange ass offer and take by Saban.

[Bevo14 8358]

9 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

that's a fucking strange ass offer and take by Saban.

Is this a grayshirt/preferred walk-on offer or something? I don't see anything on 247 about it.

Edited January 15, 2021 by Bevo14

[Katfid54 8635]

11 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

that's a fucking strange ass offer and take by Saban.

Bitch, who the fuck do you think you are to second guess Bill O'Brien's personnel decisions?  Sometimes you just gotta trade De'Andre Hopkins for David Johnson.

[Butch Had Not 2987]

@RGBIII what is dropping on the podcast? Any recruiting talk?

[JPETERMAN 111]

Recruiting is really hard when you don't have any monkeys on your side.

[RGBIII 22840]

6 minutes ago, Butch Had Not said:

@RGBIII what is dropping on the podcast? Any recruiting talk?

You know it. Get into Ewers, LJ. Didn’t think to mention Worthy but will on the next one if we get some more details

[golfclap 6903]

Pretty sure he's a PWO. I don't know a ton about him honestly. 

[crash_davis 23114]

3 minutes ago, golfclap said:

Pretty sure he's a PWO. I don't know a ton about him honestly. 

Maybe but this would still be an odd offer. I'm sure Saban/bama can get a shitton of PWOs whose best offer is someone better than Kansas.