2021-2022 Astros Offseason Thread

[henrygandorf 29,197]

9 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Or the Pompatuses of Glove...Or should that be Pompati?

purpura.

[MaybeACoordinator 8,350]

2 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

purpura.

Spoiler warning that shit....PTSD. 

[David Dennison 18,952]

22 hours ago, WBT said:

Are we still pretending that's a thing?  He currently represents Altuve, Bregman, and LMJ.

 

Yeah, but those guys never became free agents.

[runthebone 8,052]

Well, his prior agency is apparently violating ownership rules, but I guess they think they can make more money owning minor sports teams.

[runthebone 8,052]

Siri has Korean-level bat flips.

[Guadaloopy 11,027]

On 1/19/2022 at 10:02 AM, Texas St. Armadillos said:

Maybe we'll Get Lucky.

Go rub a Mexican monkey.  

[Gourmand 7,774]

 

Wags is a no-doubt HoFer imo and obviously would have already been selected had he played in NY, LA, Boston, or Chicago. 

Also, pretty fuckin cool to get a Happy Bday cameo greeting from him. I hope he makes it, he was a force. Can you imagine him with these Astros teams of the last five years?

[henrygandorf 29,197]

17 hours ago, Gourmand said:

 

Wags is a no-doubt HoFer imo and obviously would have already been selected had he played in NY, LA, Boston, or Chicago. 

Also, pretty fuckin cool to get a Happy Bday cameo greeting from him. I hope he makes it, he was a force. Can you imagine him with these Astros teams of the last five years?

you could argue that the era of the absolute nails lock-down closer is already behind us.  a bunch of the great teams from the past 6-7 years won without one, and plenty of "great" closers have been wrecked by good offenses, ours included.  i like paying for good to great bullpen arms on short deals, but would be super pissed if we ever unloaded a big contract on a "closer".  i know we won't, so i'm not worried.

wagner deserves to be in based on most available metrics and comps.

[Guadaloopy 11,027]

That Chiefs/Bills game gave me serious Game 5 vibes.  

[TexArcher 38,081]

Agree that Wags should be in and agree that the era of the shutdown closer is just about over. 

With more and more managers not letting starters go through the lineup more than twice, and probably more managers trying the 1st inning opener, the way entire staffs are being managed is changing.  It seems to bode well for what used to be known as middle relievers.  They're already becoming more valuable than back-of-the-roatation starters.  If you have a stable of 4 or 5 relievers you trust who can all go 2 to 4 IP, what do you need a closer for anymore, especially when he'll probably break down in a couple of years?

Edited January 24, 2022 by TexArcher

[henrygandorf 29,197]

11 hours ago, TexArcher said:

what do you need a closer for anymore, especially when he'll probably break down in a couple of years?

or be replaced in big games after a rough stretch, likely by having the 8th inning guy go 2.  shit we pulled in 2017 with our bullpen will become the rule, not the exception. 

[UTexasFight 9,556]

12 hours ago, TexArcher said:

Agree that Wags should be in and agree that the era of the shutdown closer is just about over. 

With more and more managers not letting starters go through the lineup more than twice, and probably more managers trying the 1st inning opener, the way entire staffs are being managed is changing.  It seems to bode well for what used to be known as middle relievers.  They're already becoming more valuable than back-of-the-roatation starters.  If you have a stable of 4 or 5 relievers you trust who can all go 2 to 4 IP, what do you need a closer for anymore, especially when he'll probably break down in a couple of years?

The duality of this post, in box score form:

 

 

 

[Chuckie Finster 22,758]

9 hours ago, UTexasFight said:

The duality of this post, in box score form:

 

 

 

I've always loved that this box score features one of the most legendary starting pitchers to ever wear an Astros uniform, the most fearsome 7-8-9 lineup we've ever thrown out there.... and Pete Munro and Kirk Saarloos.

[Amos Moses 795]

1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I've always loved that this box score features one of the most legendary starting pitchers to ever wear an Astros uniform, the most fearsome 7-8-9 lineup we've ever thrown out there.... and Pete Munro and Kirk Saarloos.

Ahem.  That’s Mr. PETER Munro to you, sir.

[Mez2 4,026]

11 hours ago, UTexasFight said:

The duality of this post, in box score form:

 

 

 

this was such a "WTF" to "huh?" and finally a "holy shit" game i've ever seen. my roommate at the time is a huge yankee fan (his uncle was billy martin) and i talked so much shit to him after that game. didn't see that outcome coming.  

[UTexasFight 9,556]

And just think, if Odorizzi had been on the roster that year, we’d still be waiting for him to finish warming up to start the bottom of the 2nd.

[Chuckie Finster 22,758]

Today’s vote has me preemptively angry at the baseball writers inevitably leaving Altuve out of the HOF because of 2017.

[tx 3 putt 77,607]

Altuve is fucked, but I think he eventually gets in 

Edited January 26, 2022 by tx 3 putt

[Murfdogg21 4,432]

Bonds used steroids for at least half his career, and during his record HR season and many of the years he piled up stats and won Worlds Serieses. Altuve was part of a team that cheated one season, but went to 5 straight ALCS’s and he was cranking out hits and HRs at a similar rate every year. 

[UTexasFight 9,556]

43 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

Altuve was part of a team that cheated one season, but went to 5 straight ALCS’s and he was cranking out hits and HRs at a similar rate every year. 

Every baseball writer…or at least 25.1% of them:

 

[Scraps 13,584]

Yeah and most of the writers won't have the balls to vote Altuve in on first few ballots because of the public backlash they will receive from social media and all the jomboys of the world. 

Edited January 26, 2022 by Scraps

[WBT 20,676]

I don't know, retirement + 5 years is a long time from now.  There were already articles this past season about how it wasn't that big of a deal and people need to get over it.  I guess the question is whether it will be seen as bad as PEDs.  The fact that Altuve didn't materially participate sadly won't weigh into it.

[Chuckie Finster 22,758]

11 hours ago, Murfdogg21 said:

Bonds used steroids for at least half his career, and during his record HR season and many of the years he piled up stats and won Worlds Serieses. Altuve was part of a team that cheated one season, but went to 5 straight ALCS’s and he was cranking out hits and HRs at a similar rate every year. 

Ah yes, I'm sure the notoriously rational national baseball media will take this into account.

[Snake Diggity 4,628]

Altuve is very likable.  If he gets 3000 hits he will be in the HoF.

[HtownHorn 14,793]

6 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:

Altuve is very likable.  If he gets 3000 hits he will be in the HoF.

Not sure this is the slam dunk it was 5 years ago, of course, Covid wiped out a prime year for Altuve, but he's been injured a lot in the last 3 full seasons, and at his current pace, he'd need 7.5 more seasons at 162 hits a season. He needs a couple of 200 hit seasons in his early 30s to remove all doubt, which means he needs to stop trying to pull everything into the CBs.

[Scraps 13,584]

I guess the mascot’s name will be Maurice. 

I said elsewhere that if they don't name him Maurice it is a fail.

My detective skills are telling me that he will indeed be named Maurice (MOE)

[Jshep34 2,323]

Tal Smith and Terry puhl astros hof 2022.

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[henrygandorf 29,197]

On 1/25/2022 at 8:19 PM, Murfdogg21 said:

Bonds used steroids for at least half his career, and during his record HR season and many of the years he piled up stats and won Worlds Serieses. 

i thought bonds won zero world serieses.

On 1/26/2022 at 6:58 AM, WBT said:

I don't know, retirement + 5 years is a long time from now.  There were already articles this past season about how it wasn't that big of a deal and people need to get over it.  I guess the question is whether it will be seen as bad as PEDs.  The fact that Altuve didn't materially participate sadly won't weigh into it.

agreed.  it won't be the layup it should be (assuming he finishes his career on a normal trajectory), at least on the first ballot.  and to your point, more and more people from inside the game (players and retired players mostly) have been speaking out about how everyone needs to get the f over it. 

it might be worth him not getting in on the first ballot just to see the buildup of twitter support for him from his peers shouting at the yankee and dodger fans.

[henrygandorf 29,197]

there will also be the inevitable stat sheet showing career postseason homers, and like many broadcasters, people will be quick to point out, "but remember, there are a lot more rounds these days" as the leaders list shows manny, bernie williams, jeter, and a bunch of guys who played in twice the number of playoff games as altuve. 

yawn.

[UTexasFight 9,556]

4 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

there will also be the inevitable stat sheet showing career postseason homers, and like many broadcasters, people will be quick to point out, "but remember, there are a lot more rounds these days" as the leaders list shows manny, bernie williams, jeter, and a bunch of guys who played in twice the number of playoff games as altuve. 

yawn.

Like many broadcasters, people are morons.

and those guys won’t have played in twice the number of playoff games when he’s done. It’ll be close to the same…except Altuve will have twice the homers.

Edited January 28, 2022 by UTexasFight

[TonyTexas 10,535]

Beltran goes on the ballot next year. That will be a good indicator. 

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

Beltran goes on the ballot next year. That will be a good indicator. 

I would put Beltran in.  Loved his game.  In addition to his hitting and defense, when he was in his prime he was just about the most efficient base stealer I've ever seen.  Rarely got caught.

[BornOrange 1,441]

On 1/24/2022 at 11:45 PM, UTexasFight said:

The duality of this post, in box score form:

 

 

 

 

On 1/25/2022 at 9:39 AM, Chuckie Finster said:

I've always loved that this box score features one of the most legendary starting pitchers to ever wear an Astros uniform, the most fearsome 7-8-9 lineup we've ever thrown out there.... and Pete Munro and Kirk Saarloos.

I also love that Dotel had one of the rare 4 K's in an inning.

[TonyTexas 10,535]

Should we expect game viewership to plummet since one of those cheating Astros has been hired to call Yankee games? I think not. 

 

[UTexasFight 9,556]

10 hours ago, BornOrange said:

 

I also love that Dotel had one of the rare 4 K's in an inning.

Completely forgot they got 28 outs in that game 

[TonyTexas 10,535]

Not bad. I particularly like this alternate logo

 

 

[kevwun 15,936]

Yeah, that one looks good.

[Seasick Sailor 3,747]

Not Maurice

[tx 3 putt 77,607]

welp, ill be dropping some cash soon. im digging all the caps

[Scraps 13,584]

Not Maurice

Epic fail

[TonyTexas 10,535]

For all you supposed grown men who insist on wearing jerseys, this is a pretty good one

 

[Mez2 4,026]

does it come tailored? 

[UTexasFight 9,556]

Nolan is 75 today.

Different positions and different stages at their career, but all I can think is “crane, don’t make the same mistake as McMullen.”

 

[Gourmand 7,774]

I saw Yordan's hot wife post pics on her instagram account this week of the family vacay to Beaver Creek. I was not pleased, but at least there are no pics or stories posted of Yordan on skis or a snowboard yet. Please Yordan, stay off the slopes!

[Gourmand 7,774]

 

[Wulaw Horn 19,153]

1 hour ago, Gourmand said:

 

I was thinking about that yesterday. Straight math would say the chiefs should have done exactly what they did in fact do- 2 losses in the afc championship game, 1 super bowl loss and 1 super bowl win. 
similarly, the Astros should have 2.5 World Series appearances and 1.25 titles their last 5 years. We’ve overrepresented WS appearances and underrepresented WS titles, but as there is an odd number it would be impossible to be exactly on target. After 4 years we were exactly on target (1 win and 2 appearances in 4 LCS trips in a row). 
also, like the chiefs, the Astros seemed like they should have won 2 titles that they didn’t, making it seem like they’ve under performed when really they have done about what has been expected. 
getting to 4 (or 5) championship series in a row in some sport other than basketball is just really really impressive. 
much less impressive in basketball (imo) where the best team almost always wins the best 4 out of 7 series. 

[Guadaloopy 11,027]

PSA - Astros are hiring and one of the openings is manual scoreboard operator. 

https://recruiting2.ultipro.com/HOU1000/JobBoard/e68ddd55-8f58-ba9d-0b3a-76742aed1055/?q=&o=postedDateDesc

[henrygandorf 29,197]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CZh0QSSJNQm/?utm_medium=copy_link
 

 

Edited February 5, 2022 by henrygandorf

[TonyTexas 10,535]

 

[Gourmand 7,774]