2021-2022 Astros Offseason Thread

[texashorne 1178]

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Flyover Country- part 1:  St. Louis, Chicago, Rangers, Astros

HELL YES

[Wulaw Horn 19070]

2 hours ago, Scraps said:

Folks....now we have a new post we will hear about in 2027 still from Mr. Wulaw!  

Remember when........

Lol just fucking with you 

I mean- I've been on the boards since 2002 when I met LonghornBob Wheeler in Aimes IA and he owned HornFans.  That's almost 20 years now.  2027 is just the blink of an eye online brother.  

Edited December 2, 2021 by Wulaw Horn

[tx 3 putt 76972]

13 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

zero chance he leaks news to his brother and then goes back on it. 

worth it though because nyy fans are getting their collective hopes up. 

https://nypost.com/2021/12/02/justin-verlander-has-yet-to-sign-with-astros-in-free-agency-mystery/amp/

[Scraps 13561]

oh that will show them! 

 

 

[TonyTexas 10515]

^^^
so childish and petty. I’ve been pretty neutral in this dispute with plenty of blame to be placed on each side but shit like will push me towards the player’s side. 

[UTexasFight 9454]

5 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Yeah, I'm out on baseball until there is progress made.  I'm not mad or anything unless it screws up games and/or screws up the season.  I guess, if I had a magic wand, here is what I'd like to see:

On Field stuff

1) Machine called balls and strikes

2) Pitch clock at 15 seconds (nobody has a bad word to say about that at the minor league they tried it in and they shaved something like 20 minutes off the game and contact rates and balls in play improved)

3) Get rid of 7 inning double headers

4) Get rid of those stupid extra inning rules- if teams can't play beyond 10 or 11 innings safely (I think they can) I would prefer a tie over the damn ghost man- which is not baseball.

Free Agency

27.5 years old for any international signee or high school signee

29.5 years old for any drafted player that doesn't enter out of college

Anyone who plays even 1 game in a year gets a year of service time.  Anyone with 7 years of service time becomes a FA if they get to that point in time before 27.5 or 29.5

Abolish the 40 man roster/60 day DL and 10 day IL.  You can pull anyone you want up from the minors at any time and send them down at any time

Abolish the rule 5 draft.  Total and complete minor league Free Agency at 27.5

Competitive Balance

Salary floor at 40% of revenue (league wide)

Tax at 52.5% of league revenues

(players currently get 46.3% of league revenue- so this would give both sides something - and it would narrow the haves and the have nots).

No expansion of playoffs

2 league expansion teams (Portland and Nashville). Move A's to Vegas. New Divisions.

East side- least side

East 1:  NYY, Boston, Toronto, Baltimore; 

East 2: Philly, NYMets, Washington Cleveland

South:  Tampa, Miami, Atlanta, Nashville

Midwest- Eastern Time Zone style:  Detroit, Cincinatti, Pittsburg, Milwaukee (need someone to round out the division)

West side- best side

Flyover Country- part 1:  St. Louis, Chicago, Rangers, Astros

Flyover Country part 2: White Sox, KC, Minnesota, Colorado

West 1:  SEA, Portland, Angels, Las Vegas

West 2: Dodgers, Giants, Padres, Dbacks.

 

That would have only 2 teams in the wrong time zone (Milwaukee and Colorado) and they would only be 1 hour off in their time zones.  I don't think there are any traditional rivalries that got split up.  Maybe the South ends up with some new rivalries out of this.  Play each team in your division 18 times (54).  Play each team in your region's other division (south and Midwest- eastern time zone style paired together) 12 times (48 games), play 2 divisions in the other league 6 times (48 games) play 2 divisions in the other league 6 times (48), play 1 division in the other conference 3 times (12).  Rotate divisions on the other side.

Division winners make the playoffs. 1 wild card team with best record in the league makes the playoffs.  Division winner with worst record plays wild card.

A lot of this makes sense

Though i would add the following (after hearing the St. Louis Blues will have an emergency backup goalie, or “EBUG”, on the bench tonight)…instead of a PPP in blowouts, teams must use an EBUBBA, or Emergency Back Up Blowout Bullpen Arm.

no restrictions on who the guy is other than he can’t have played above junior college or coached above high school. And of course, higher preference given to message board posters in their late 30s/early 40s.

[Scraps 13561]

EBUBBA is offensive to country ass white boy hick fucktards sir 

[henrygandorf 29191]

1 hour ago, Scraps said:

oh that will show them! 

 

 

shots fired!

shit, for all we know that’s the mlbpa saying stop using our photos. 

[Scraps 13561]

1 minute ago, henrygandorf said:

shots fired!

shit, for all we know that’s the mlbpa saying stop using our photos. 

highly doubtful because many players, including Machete and Bregman, have changed their social media pics to the same thing to troll MLB for doing it....but I guess it is a possibility 

Edited December 2, 2021 by Scraps

[IDIOTsavant 8483]

37 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

shots fired!

shit, for all we know that’s the mlbpa saying stop using our photos. 

Yeah, pretty sure that without a current contract they don’t have the legal right to use the photos/player likeness.

[Wulaw Horn 19070]

2 hours ago, UTexasFight said:

A lot of this makes sense

Though i would add the following (after hearing the St. Louis Blues will have an emergency backup goalie, or “EBUG”, on the bench tonight)…instead of a PPP in blowouts, teams must use an EBUBBA, or Emergency Back Up Blowout Bullpen Arm.

no restrictions on who the guy is other than he can’t have played above junior college or coached above high school. And of course, higher preference given to message board posters in their late 30s/early 40s.

That would be incredible. Like organic home run derby.  Problem is someone might get kilt. 

[henrygandorf 29191]

1 hour ago, Scraps said:

highly doubtful because many players, including Machete and Bregman, have changed their social media pics to the same thing to troll MLB for doing it....but I guess it is a possibility 

yeah, who the hell knows.  neither side is blameless, let's just play baseball.

[Guadaloopy 10973]

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

shots fired!

shit, for all we know that’s the mlbpa saying stop using our photos. 

Ding ding ding.  Has NIL written all over it.  

[Guadaloopy 10973]

1 hour ago, Scraps said:

highly doubtful because many players, including Machete and Bregman, have changed their social media pics to the same thing to troll MLB for doing it....but I guess it is a possibility 

And some other players would be bitching about MLB using their image to promote the product.  

[Scraps 13561]

Yeah i know it could be either....i just know who the MLB leader is and he is a pussy so I go with him being petty as fuck even if it isn't the case

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

I will continue to remain worried about this until I am given reason not to…

[NeverMarryAStripper 21907]

This whole MLB work stoppage is probably my fault.  After the 94 strike I gave a big FU to the Astros and MLB, gave up my season tickets and didn't watch, or attend another game until my daughter talked me into taking her to one (and only one) in August 2019.  This I year I kind of got interested in them again and started watching.  I actually rooted for them during the playoffs.  I'm pretty sure all this means that there is going to be a protracted strike again.  Apologies.

Edited December 3, 2021 by NeverMarryAStripper

[tx 3 putt 76972]

LMJ on Correa :

"Whatever's best for him and his family," McCullers said. "I've been through this with other guys that I'm friends with Dallas (Keuchel), (George) Springer, Charlie Morton, Gerrit Cole. These guys have to put their families first and wherever they end up, I hope they're happy. I hope it’s here. He’s not signed anywhere else yet, so we still got a shot.”

[tx 3 putt 76972]

Trigger warming for some of y’all …..

 

 

 

 

Edited December 7, 2021 by tx 3 putt

[The Dog 44056]

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-hot-stove-finding-best-fits-for-unsigned-top-50-free-agents-including-carlos-correa-and-clayton-kershaw/

Relevant portion:

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Carlos CorreaHOUSTON ASTROS SS

Best fit: Astros. The short version is Houston's World Series window remains wide open and Correa is an elite player at a premium position, so he'd help the push for a title. The long version is Correa is already a franchise icon, a player who more than lived up to the hype after the Astros tanked to draft him No. 1 overall in 2012. With another team Correa's just a hired gun, a perennial All-Star who might win an MVP or two. And that's fine! Nothing wrong with being a mercenary. But with the Astros he has a chance to grow into a franchise legend. Correa staying with Houston would be the best thing for the Astros and the best thing for Correa's legacy. Some players should only wear one team's uniform. Correa is one of them. Sleeper fit: Red Sox. Correa and Red Sox manager Alex Cora are very close (Cora was Houston's bench coach in 2017), and the Red Sox would be able to slide Xander Bogaerts over to second base, which might be his best defensive position at this point. Also, Bogaerts can opt out of his contract next offseason. Correa would give them long-term protection at short.

 

[henrygandorf 29191]

7 minutes ago, The Dog said:

after the Astros tanked to draft him No. 1 overall in 2012.

[tx 3 putt 76972]

2012, you could sit about anywhere you wanted. If you had a jersey on, they’d let you sit in the dugout 

[henrygandorf 29191]

and if you had a "tank for correa" sign, you got in free.

[WBT 20579]

I kind of miss being able to buy a $10 ticket and stroll down to the 5th row

[Gourmand 7774]

Joe Kelly has a new brother!

https://www.chron.com/sports/astros/article/Carlos-Correa-wife-Daniella-baby-picture-son-Kylo-16683292.php

 

[kevwun 15790]

My mom used to get 4 sweet field level tickets down the right field line with a parking pass from one of their vendors at work.  That was a nice perk.

[Murfdogg21 4412]

11 hours ago, WBT said:

I kind of miss being able to buy a $10 ticket and stroll down to the 5th row

Let me tell you about the Houston Rockets and Texans…

[Murfdogg21 4412]

10 hours ago, Gourmand said:

Joe Kelly has a new brother!

https://www.chron.com/sports/astros/article/Carlos-Correa-wife-Daniella-baby-picture-son-Kylo-16683292.php

 

[Wulaw Horn 19070]

11 hours ago, WBT said:

I kind of miss being able to buy a $10 ticket and stroll down to the 5th row

$10?  Mr big spender. I feel like it was $6 or 8. Kids free. ‘‘Twas much cheaper than a movie and always sat in great seats. 

[Ojo Rojo 1965]

11 hours ago, Gourmand said:

Joe Kelly has a new brother!

https://www.chron.com/sports/astros/article/Carlos-Correa-wife-Daniella-baby-picture-son-Kylo-16683292.php

 

Kylo?!  JFC.

[Scraps 13561]

College Classic went on sale:

GA $20 one day pass, or $45 for the 3 day pass before fees 

https://www.mlb.com/astros/tickets/college-classic?partnerId=zh-20211208-513583-HOU-1-A&qid&utm_id=zh-20211208-513583-HOU-1-A&bt_ee=qh0YoAYgrlVoFCXomnMwqeDSt1LAVCn85Ah0LVKv2js22%2Fc0Z9zVmbqS2aDNRntU&bt_ts=1638979379619

[TonyTexas 10515]

Some actual news from the Rule 5 draft. Astros pick up 1 and 3. 

Lose Lonnie Dawson, Manny Ramirez and Brett Daniels 

[Amos Moses 795]

We’ve lost Manny Ramirez? Where’d we lose him? He’s not a set of car keys.

[Scraps 13561]

I think you mean Ronnie Dawson 

Always liked him and was hoping he would pan out, but he got passed by Meyers/Chas/Siri 

[tx 3 putt 76972]

He got passed up

[HornOnTheBayou 8930]

23 hours ago, Scraps said:

College Classic went on sale:

GA $20 one day pass, or $45 for the 3 day pass before fees 

https://www.mlb.com/astros/tickets/college-classic?partnerId=zh-20211208-513583-HOU-1-A&qid&utm_id=zh-20211208-513583-HOU-1-A&bt_ee=qh0YoAYgrlVoFCXomnMwqeDSt1LAVCn85Ah0LVKv2js22%2Fc0Z9zVmbqS2aDNRntU&bt_ts=1638979379619

That's a fun group of teams. Thanks for the info, because I've been trying to figure out what to get my dad for Christmas. A couple of three-day passes will make for a perfect gift.

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

Jon Singleton (!!) just signed with the Brewers.  Apparently he got in shape and has been playing in Mexico.  Would be a fun comeback story, although I wish he could have figured it out with us.

What he looks like now:

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[WBT 20579]

Somebody alert Bud Norris!

[formermav43 4606]

7 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Jon Singleton (!!) just signed with the Brewers.  Apparently he got in shape and has been playing in Mexico.  Would be a fun comeback story, although I wish he could have figured it out with us.

What he looks like now:

H

They signed Tyler White as well.

[Gourmand 7774]

Surprised they didn't sign his Diablos Rojos teammates Japhet Amador and Roberto Osuna

[Mez2 4023]

Hey hey hey, smoke weed everyday 

[UTexasFight 9454]

4 hours ago, formermav43 said:

They signed Tyler White as well.

They should go for the trifecta and land AJ Reed while they’re at it

[runthebone 7983]

Martes, too

[Huckleberry 32861]

19 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Jon Singleton (!!) just signed with the Brewers.  Apparently he got in shape and has been playing in Mexico.  Would be a fun comeback story, although I wish he could have figured it out with us.

What he looks like now:

H

Lot of empty potential advertising space on the back of that jacket.

[tx 3 putt 76972]

$15 to spend, go !

 

[tx 3 putt 76972]

welp, here we go .......... bregman working out at SS this offseason, ready to go 

 

[formermav43 4606]

6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

$15 to spend, go !

 

Bourn averaged 4.5 WAR for 4 seasons at the peak of his career (2009-2012). Doran put up a couple of 4+ WAR seasons and one at 5, averaging 3.4 for 8 seasons. Those guys are huge bargains at $1. And including them on the same tier as Chris Burke is almost insulting.

[Wulaw Horn 19070]

Bagwell Bergman, Petite, Oswalt, Wandy-rod. I assume we are just talking about their time as Astros or Joe Morgan is then the obvious choice. 

Edited December 11, 2021 by Wulaw Horn

[hornmpa96 2618]

The best second baseman of all time at $3?

[UTPhil2006 3807]

Give all my $15 to Correa