2021-2022 Astros Offseason Thread

[henrygandorf 29174]

onward. 

[Gourmand 7774]

Just now, rvm96 said:

You think he is ready??? 

Ah no I'm just drunk with frustration, I meant Jeremy Pena

[Scraps 13531]

Twins are ones to watch now....hopefully they want Story

Hi34

[Rip76 4909]

Fuck

Edited March 19, 2022 by Rip76
Because

[Scraps 13531]

This deal is bullshit for Astros fans and makes so little sense to me why Carlos took it instead of sticking with his boys and running it back for another AL title. 

Cause its insurance. If he sucks next year he still has 35 mil in 2023. If he blows up he can opt out.

A one yr deal isn't good for him.

Every single player can tell you its not about the money, but it is about the money always

[OB3 3608]

Going after Story or just stick with Pena?

[Gourmand 7774]

2 minutes ago, OB3 said:

Going after Story or just stick with Pena?

They will stick with Pena

[Gourmand 7774]

4 minutes ago, Scraps said:

Cause its insurance. If he sucks next year he still has 35 mil in 2023. If he blows up he can opt out.

A one yr deal isn't good for him.

Every single player can tell you its not about the money, but it is about the money always

Right, I understand that but it's hard to think the Astros weren't close to that offer and he has such a bond with his teammates and Astros fans that anything close should have kept him in Houston for the short term at least. I never thought the Astros would get outbid for him on a short deal like this one.

[tx 3 putt 76159]

I'd roll with what we have and re-evaluate at the trade deadline 

[Gourmand 7774]

Just now, tx 3 putt said:

I'd roll with what we have and re-evaluate at the trade deadline 

We're still the unfuckwithable bad mofos of the AL but Correa's leadership will be very hard to replace.

[Scraps 13531]

If we pull off some dumb fucking Story contract I will kick Jim Crane in his old saggy dick balls

[Gourmand 7774]

1 minute ago, Scraps said:

If we pull off some dumb fucking Story contract I will kick Jim Crane in his old saggy dick balls

I may be in the minority but fuck paying big money to Story. Save it for the bullpen and pitching and roll with the kid at SS.

Edited March 19, 2022 by Gourmand

[cabowabo 4449]

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[runthebone 7929]

Too bad, but now we know and can move on.  I appreciate all that he did for us. 

[Reese Bennett 3604]

We’ll fuck. That makes no sense to me. I’ll find a little consolation in that it is not the Yankees.

[TonyTexas 10478]

31 minutes ago, Reese Bennett said:

We’ll fuck. That makes no sense to me. I’ll find a little consolation in that it is not the Yankees.

It’s ironic that it was the Yankees trade that gave the Twins the salary relief needed to make this deal. 

[WBT 20397]

We couldn't outbid Minnesota on a 3-year deal?  This is stupid.

[Macklemore 2899]

What a great fucking day for Houston sports. WTF couldn’t Crane match a short term high dollar deal? It’s less than the $40 million per year we were all thinking would get the job done.

Edited March 19, 2022 by Macklemore

[Sleepygrad 1029]

Well fuck

[closetojumping 62132]

Welp, that beats the $38-$40 for a year. My bad on stoking any flames of hope. I was pretty okay with it myself. 

[kevwun 15595]

Stupid to lose him over an extra year. 

[BornOrange 1441]

Correa's deal with Minnesota shows me that he was never going to re-sign with the Astros.

I bet the Astros were willing to give him more than 35 for a one year deal. But the Twins deal gives him insurance if he gets injured or has a bad year.

And the Astros would have given him more than 105 for a 3 year deal. But the Twins deal allows him to re-enter the FA market every year if he wants to.

Correa always was and always will be looking for a huge contract to play in NYC or LA.

[htown85 159]

This stings

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

I’m just stunned that we wouldn’t give him that deal. Unless we find out it’s like 70 million in the first year and 30 in year 2 and 5 in year 3 or something insanely stupid like that, I just can’t even begin to get it. 

I’m not going to go on and on here because it’s pretty well established how I feel about CC and that he’s my guy, but I just hate this move. Worst decision Crane has made since firing Jeff L instead of dealing with a bullshit 1 year suspension. 

really feels like we will never sign a FA that isn’t middling bullpen shit. Feels like we’ve lost sight of the difference between cheap and value, between expensive and quality.

The Springer deal not keeping him around for 25 a year was bad and might well have cost us a World Series while this deal sure feels like it will cost us the opportunity to be in another one. Those guys both had big balls and took care of business in the playoffs. I have no doubt we will cruise to another division title but that lineup man, it’s been historically awesome and now it’s what- above average?  You have 2 great all around hitters (Alvarez and Tucker) coming into their prime, 2 guys who could be great but the arrow is pointed down due to age or injury, so who knows, (Altuve and Bregman), 2 guys who are consummate professional hitters but just don’t scare you or drive the ball enough anymore (Brantley and Yuli) and might fall off a cliff at any time bc they are old as fuck, the worst bat in the league (defense first catcher- not a complaint), and then 2 young bats that don’t profile as special, that will likely combine to be average at best this year (SS and CF). 

We’ve got arms coming out of our ass but people here seem to want to add more- but we’ve got a real hope and prayer vibe here offensively that we haven’t had since 2015. 
 

Edited March 19, 2022 by Wulaw Horn

[David Dennison 18606]

17 minutes ago, BornOrange said:

Correa's deal with Minnesota shows me that he was never going to re-sign with the Astros.

I bet the Astros were willing to give him more than 35 for a one year deal. But the Twins deal gives him insurance if he gets injured or has a bad year.

And the Astros would have given him more than 105 for a 3 year deal. But the Twins deal allows him to re-enter the FA market every year if he wants to.

Correa always was and always will be looking for a huge contract to play in NYC or LA.

This. He was never signing here.

[htown85 159]

Do we get a pick from the Twins for this?

[Mez2 4020]

You're either with us or against us.

Fuckn him, spend the money on some arms, and roll with Pena at SS.  

[ChickenSandwich 9797]

8 minutes ago, Mez2 said:

You're either with us or against us.

Fuckn him, spend the money on some arms, and roll with Pena at SS.  

This. Thanks for the memories Carlos. Go Fuck your self in Minnesota for a few extra million for one year. 

[Js1 85056]

10 minutes ago, Mez2 said:

You're either with us or against us.

Fuckn him, spend the money on some arms, and roll with Pena at SS.  

Yup. Bye bro. Enjoy those Minnesota winters 

[Lat22 3990]

4 hours ago, Reese Bennett said:

We’ll fuck. That makes no sense to me. I’ll find a little consolation in that it is not the Yankees.

We’ll revisit your statement in a year or two. That guy is going to be a Yankee. 

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Yup. Bye bro. Enjoy those Minnesota winters 

He’s never going to see a Minnesota winter. He won’t get up there until like April 15th and he will be gone by October 3rd or whenever the first wild card series (at most) ends. 

[Guadaloopy 10903]

Dammit.  I had prepared myself for this since we failed to get an extension done before last year, but then the footsie earlier this week sucked me back in.  This sucks.  

[TonyTexas 10478]

21 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

He’s never going to see a Minnesota winter. He won’t get up there until like April 15th and he will be gone by October 3rd or whenever the first wild card series (at most) ends. 

He might be gone by August 1. 

[TonyTexas 10478]

I have never heard of a siingle player in today’s lineup

 

Edited March 19, 2022 by TonyTexas

[UTexasFight 9369]

35 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

He might be gone by August 1. 

If not, back in Houston Aug 23-25

[Gourmand 7774]

1 hour ago, htown85 said:

Do we get a pick from the Twins for this?

Nope, the new CBA eliminates that. 

[UTexasFight 9369]

F Manfred 

[SimonBolivar 10898]

I know we have a lot of hope in Pena, but the dude has 30 games above A ball in his career. I wish we'd at least act like we planned on contending in the last year or two of our window.

[TonyTexas 10478]

I know many are upset but I understand Click and Crane's reluctance to do a deal structured like this. I think they would have matched or exceeded a straight up 3 year deal. But the opt outs complicate payroll management. I also don't think they wanted to deal with potentially 4 consecutive years of "will he opt-out" or " will he re-sign"

[SimonBolivar 10898]

Double post

Edited March 19, 2022 by SimonBolivar

[Js1 85056]

4 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

I know many are upset but I understand Click and Crane's reluctance to do a deal structured like this. I think they would have matched or exceeded a straight up 3 year deal. But the opt outs complicate payroll management. I also don't think they wanted to deal with potentially 4 consecutive years of "will he opt-out" or " will he re-sign"

Same thought. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, htown85 said:

This stings

Fuck him. Statement made by all parties involved. Astros made the effort. Correa chose to leave. We mean nothing. He means nothing.  Moving on. 

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

I have never heard of a siingle player in today’s lineup

 

I’ve heard of Luke Barryhill and that’s it. 

[utxmike05 1825]

FU Correa (my ex fav player).  That's some bullshit after all the trolling with Machete and others this past week.  
 

All to sell out to the fukin Twins?! Lmao.  Cool move bro. Have fun in shit weather and trying to find other Puerto Ricans to hang with. 
 

Stros will make you regret this.  

Edited March 19, 2022 by utxmike05

[IDIOTsavant 8437]

6 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I’ve heard of Luke Barryhill and that’s it. 

I’ve read a little on Berryhill, Papierski, Valdez, and Rivas….I think I have problem.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, htown85 said:

This stings

Fuck him. Statement made by all parties involved. Astros made the effort. Correa chose to leave. We mean nothing. He means nothing.  Moving on. 

[Hank Chinaski 6310]

He’s gone and we couldn’t do nothing about it.

 

[David Dennison 18606]

51 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

I know we have a lot of hope in Pena, but the dude has 30 games above A ball in his career. I wish we'd at least act like we planned on contending in the last year or two of our window.

The Astros are a contender without Carlos Correa.

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

[SimonBolivar 10898]

18 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

The Astros are a contender without Carlos Correa.

 I don't even care about Correa, but rather the "let's just replace him with a dude that has 30 AAA games under his belt" attitude that management is taking at the end of a World Series window. I'm excited for Pena and think he can be a solid SS, but man we need more options than Pena or trading away farm talent for someone in August. I'm also a sports glass half empty personality in general.

Edited March 19, 2022 by SimonBolivar