Mass Shootings

[Longhorn_Fan68 33917]

[Satchel 6949]

1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

The kid’s reply should be, “me too since there’s nothing that can be done to protect us from guns while we’re at school.”

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Still trying to get an explanation as to why I can’t carry to an NRA event. The mental gymnastics must be breaking brains.

[YGIFS 19453]

New education law out of our esteemed legislature.  All Texas public high schools must offer, though as an elective, to Seniors-a semester long gun safety course.  No required driver's ed., but gun ed.  I'm all for more safety and education.

But think about your 18yo with Senioritis.  

1.  Another class I have to study for or:

2.  Just wait until I turn 18 and I have own any gun I want, open carry it with no nerdy books or tests, and spend 6th period in study hall or taking theater to finally get with Sally Weaver.  

Edited April 3, 2023 by YGIFS

[Biff Tannen 45763]

6 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

There’s also the fact that whenever the NRA holds a big event or when the Republicans hold a large gathering, guns are strictly prohibited. Prohibited? They should be required. No one gets in without an AR-15 and at least 240 rounds of ammunition. That way they can ensure that the space will be extra super safe. 

Well because you see then a false flag operation by ANTIFA!!! would show up and start shooting everyone and it would be all to make the conservative gun owners look bad.  Can't risk that.

[jimmyjazz 46471]

Honestly, with the current inability to restrict teenagers from legally purchasing weapons, I'm all for a legit gun safety course in high school.  

[mdmost 43296]

4 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

This is the shit that hit me when Uvalde happened. Those kids and their teacher were so close to being in the clear. One week to go. We are such failures to those children. 

[Guest]

So in the U.S. House you can completely lie to get elected, spout Q-Anon, call the other side of the aisle pedophiles, and *crickets*. In TN House, if you dare to be a voice of children gunned down in school, you get this:

 

[Chuckie Finster 22759]

54 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

So in the U.S. House you can completely lie to get elected, spout Q-Anon, call the other side of the aisle pedophiles, and *crickets*. In TN House, if you dare to be a voice of children gunned down in school, you get this:

 

As posted in the Tennessee thread, it's even worse.  You can literally assault teenage girls and stay as long as you have an R by your name.

 

[Sawbonz 27777]

There may be riots if that is successful 

[Mdhorn 6093]

14 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Honestly, with the current inability to restrict teenagers from legally purchasing weapons, I'm all for a legit gun safety course in high school.  

Do you know how many kids cut themselves with the power saw in shop class while horsing around? It’s why a lot of shop teachers are missing multiple digits or have mini hit dog fingers. 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20622]

The UTAH GOP:


 

Also the UTAH GOP:

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Snake Diggity 4628]

3 steps in mass shootings and what can be reasonably be done about it:

1. Person is allowed to harbor sick violent thoughts they intend to act upon.  We need a massive “see something, say something” campaign designed to ensure these sick people are not ignored and that warning signs are acted upon.  We also need to increase resources allocated to mental health education in schools and community mental health services.

2. Person with sick violent thoughts they intend to act upon is able to easily acquire guns and ammo designed to kill many people quickly. Require a license and background check commiserate with the type of weapon a person wants to own.  AR15s and the like should require a “drivers Ed” level training course that includes mental health evaluation by the instructor.  Ownership of a gun designed to kill human beings should require insurance.  Guns and ammo should be heavily heavily taxed.  Gun and ammo manufacturers should be held liable for mass shootings.

3. Heavily armed person with sick violent thoughts they intend to act upon is able to access schools or other crowded areas and kill many people before help can arrive.  Schools should be locked at all times with one controlled access point staffed by a security guard or LEO.  Districts should be held criminally liable for security lapses (I.e. if you leave the side door unlocked it’s your ass).  All staff should be trained on how to handle active shooter situations (I believe this is already happening).

It is totally mind boggling that any of this is in any way objectionable.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20622]

39 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

 

It is totally mind boggling that any of this is in any way objectionable.

It's totally mind bottling that any of this is in any way necessary.

[BHMCruiser 1818]

18 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Still trying to get an explanation as to why I can’t carry to an NRA event. The mental gymnastics must be breaking brains.

There's no explanation because your presumption is not correct:

https://www.nraam.org/attend/attendee-faqs/

See the "concealed carry" FAQ. 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20622]

Bastrop man arrested after gun discharges in Mexican restaurant, injuring several people, including children.


https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/bastrop-man-arrested-after-gun-goes-off-inside-restaurant-injures-children#

 

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

There's no explanation because your presumption is not correct:
https://www.nraam.org/attend/attendee-faqs/
See the "concealed carry" FAQ. 

Thank you. There was a misconception because of the Houston event. That was secret service policy for former president dipshit.

Thanks for the clarification.

['stache 21900]

So I drop my kids off this morning at their elementary school and there are people with campaign signs for the local school board election happening today. The right wing nutter who doesn't have kids and whose sole agenda is to harass teachers and gay kids had his followers on the sidewalk, across the street where the kids were entering the school, one of them strapped with two open carry pistols. A day after a local high school was locked down while they arrested someone who threatened to shoot the place up.

I keep reading from 2A people that they are big on "responsible" gun ownership. What in the ever living fuck is "responsible" about strapping a pistol across from a school with kids knowing goddamned well the atmosphere of gun violence in schools? Is there any legitimate self-defense there? No, it's to be a complete asshole and a piece of shit.

If you insist on this shit, fuck you, go straight to hell. If you want to support 2A and call this an outlier, fuck you, eat shit, and die already. I'm done with your "most of us are responsible" nonsense. You foster this shit every time you make an excuse. You've made guns the equivalent of a religious relic. I'm done with this fucking country. I'll say it again, eat shit you miserable waste of life.

Edited April 4, 2023 by 'stache

[BHMCruiser 1818]

3 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Thank you. There was a misconception because of the Houston event. That was secret service policy for former president dipshit.

Thanks for the clarification.

You're welcome. The misunderstanding is understandable. 

[fattyflattie 4639]

1 hour ago, 'stache said:

If you want to support 2A and call this an outlier, fuck you, eat shit, and die already. I'm done with your "most of us are responsible" nonsense.

So we're clear, you saw one guy, and don't believe that is the absolute definition of an outlier?  Seems reasonable. 

['stache 21900]

20 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

So we're clear, you saw one guy, and don't believe that is the absolute definition of an outlier?  Seems reasonable. 

Not when people like you support them at every corner. It’s the culture you participate in without ever holding the supposed “outliers” accountable through reasonable regulation. Used to be you couldn’t carry a weapon near a school. All thrown out because the 2a religion. The school literally had to email parents that they couldn’t do anything about it. She has all sorts of support now by the way. This is not an outlier when people love it a droves. FUCK YOU!

[fattyflattie 4639]

52 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Used to be you couldn’t carry a weapon near a school.

This changed? When, and how close?  I’m guessing it’s the exact distance it always was. 

[hobbes2702 13150]

8 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

There may be riots if that is successful 

There should be. 

[hobbes2702 13150]

8 hours ago, Mdhorn said:

Do you know how many kids cut themselves with the power saw in shop class while horsing around? It’s why a lot of shop teachers are missing multiple digits or have mini hit dog fingers. 

We had belt sanders across the shop from each other and our shop teacher would sleep in his office often. Many many times there were wars that involved launching stuff off the belts at each other.

['stache 21900]

14 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

This changed? When, and how close?  I’m guessing it’s the exact distance it always was. 

Well federal law says 1000 feet of a school, but guess what, it has an exception for people licensed to carry under state law, and our shithole state says you don’t need a license to be considered “licensed” ‘cause muh freedumbs and how dare anyone even suggest regulating a machine that regularly mows down dozens of people in a matter of seconds. This cunt was literally across the street from the gym door where my 5 year old enters the school. Probably 25 feet, at most. So again, fuck you shithead.

 

[fattyflattie 4639]

27 minutes ago, 'stache said:

So again, fuck you shithead.

Lulz. Hope it makes you feel better. 

[jimmyjazz 46471]

1 hour ago, fattyflattie said:

This changed? When, and how close?  I’m guessing it’s the exact distance it always was. 

I'm guessing a bullet can go farther.

['stache 21900]

3 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Lulz. Hope it makes you feel better. 

It does. Eat shit you pathetic cocksucker.

The guy lost 68%-32%. The cunt is probably still at the bar chugging busch lights laughing at all the "lib tears" she caused the parents who are infuriated, again, a day after another local school was locked down to contain a gun threat.

These are the people you like voting for your candidates. This is who you are. Fuck off. 

Edited April 5, 2023 by 'stache

[Brisketexan 105569]

There may be riots if that is successful 

If successful, there should be more than mere riots.

Naked disenfranchisement and denying people the benefit of the rule of law? That’s how you opt into the rule of…not law. It’s dumb as shit, but we’ve committed ourselves to that path.

[wildcat09 29453]

Y’all remember how many people were nervous about expelling any of the GOP reps and senators who helped gin up (and some likely knowingly helped plan specific violence) a violent coup attempt, because it might give the GOP precedent to do it to Dems?

Are you fucking people finally starting to understand that fascists don’t need precedent?

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Goddamnit. In a German town in Southern Brazil. I guess even with Bolsonaro gone, Brazil is still trying to emulate the US.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-65192957.amp

[BrazilHorn 6651]

46 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Goddamnit. In a German town in Southern Brazil. I guess even with Bolsonaro gone, Brazil is still trying to emulate the US.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-65192957.amp

Just saw this, Blumenau is an awesome little town up in the hills. Great Octoberfest every year, good grub, cool folks. 
Just crazy to attack and kill kids with a fucking axe. 

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Just saw this, Blumenau is an awesome little town up in the hills. Great Octoberfest every year, good grub, cool folks. 
Just crazy to attack and kill kids with a fucking axe. 

Yeah. Horrific.

I meant to add in my hasty post that it wasn’t a shooting. And instead of talking about people’s mental health, the religiously 2A people will use this terrible event as a talking point about it’s not guns.

[Macanudo 13083]

21 hours ago, 'stache said:

Well federal law says 1000 feet of a school, but guess what, it has an exception for people licensed to carry under state law, and our shithole state says you don’t need a license to be considered “licensed” ‘cause muh freedumbs and how dare anyone even suggest regulating a machine that regularly mows down dozens of people in a matter of seconds. This cunt was literally across the street from the gym door where my 5 year old enters the school. Probably 25 feet, at most. So again, fuck you shithead.

 

They want to normalize open carry so that even kids want to do it.   Groomers, thy name is 2A assholes.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20622]

 

 

[Scheiss Meister 8419]

23 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Yeah. Horrific.

I meant to add in my hasty post that it wasn’t a shooting. And instead of talking about people’s mental health, the religiously 2A people will use this terrible event as a talking point about it’s not guns.

Yep.  I've already seen it on Facebook.  Stupid morons.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20622]

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

I was going to post this in the carry thread, but I figured heads would explode with xenophobic thoughts.

I was talking the PCM of our business unit at work (oil company). He is Bolivian and lived in Peru then Spain for 4 years before moving to Houston for the past 1.5 years. He says to me that his wife isn’t sure how long she wants to stay here in the US because the guns and school shootings. They went to the store the other day (not sure which store, they live in the Woodlands) and someone was open carrying and it really freaked his wife out. They have two kids (5 and 2). I really couldn’t say anything but shake my head and say I understand.

Cue ana or some other dipshit citing gun violence in Bolivia and Peru.

[tx 3 putt 77922]

 

[Fastbreak 3996]

Where I live now (Singapore) there hasn’t been a homicide by gun in 20+ years. This is basically a country that is the size of Austin with a population larger than Houston.

Gun ownership and Crime rates here are both incredibly low. How can that be? If the reason for guns is to stop the bad guys, in a country with no guns, how can there be no crime?

Perhaps it’s the fucking guns?

[royiv 9447]

3 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

Where I live now (Singapore) there hasn’t been a homicide by gun in 20+ years. This is basically a country that is the size of Austin with a population larger than Houston.

Gun ownership and Crime rates here are both incredibly low. How can that be? If the reason for guns is to stop the bad guys, in a country with no guns, how can there be no crime?

Perhaps it’s the fucking guns?

Ask @Handcruser. He says guns reduce the risk of conflict.

[Guest]

10 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

I have a vision for a website that digs into the "total cost" of these mass shootings. We get the headline number of number killed. That's bad enough. We don't get clear numbers on:

- number injured and severity (doctor's bills, loss of income)
- emotional distress causes by the shooting (counseling costs, loss of income, etc.)
- property damage caused (they are going to tear down and build an entirely new school in Uvalde)
- settlements

In the Sutherland Springs case, legislation says you can't go after the gun manufacturers. But the American taxpayer gets hit for $127 million (and yes, the USAF should have reported the history).

One guy with a $1,000 rifle took all those lives and also led to $125 million+ in damages in a span of five minutes. It's terrorism and Republicans are soft on mass shootings.

[RomaVicta 30072]

On 4/4/2023 at 7:18 AM, FirstTimeCaller said:

So in the U.S. House you can completely lie to get elected, spout Q-Anon, call the other side of the aisle pedophiles, and *crickets*. In TN House, if you dare to be a voice of children gunned down in school, you get this:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Ba'ath_Party_Purge

 

[Biff Tannen 45763]

1 hour ago, royiv said:

Ask @Handcruser. He says guns reduce the risk of conflict.

This is so weird to me.  It seems based on fear and inflicting fear upon others.  Doesn't seem like a great way to run a society to me.

[RomaVicta 30072]

On 4/4/2023 at 10:10 AM, BHMCruiser said:

There's no explanation because your presumption is not correct:

https://www.nraam.org/attend/attendee-faqs/

See the "concealed carry" FAQ. 

This makes me happy. 

[YGIFS 19453]

Don’t even get into a fear discussion.  That’s too subjective 

if more good guys with guns is the solution than shouldn’t the country with the most good guys and the most guns be the safest place?   Simple fucking question, yes or no?  

[royiv 9447]

39 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is so weird to me.  It seems based on fear and inflicting fear upon others.  Doesn't seem like a great way to run a society to me.

These people make their living trading in fear. 

[fattyflattie 4639]

6 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

Where I live now (Singapore) there hasn’t been a homicide by gun in 20+ years. This is basically a country that is the size of Austin with a population larger than Houston.

Gun ownership and Crime rates here are both incredibly low. How can that be? If the reason for guns is to stop the bad guys, in a country with no guns, how can there be no crime?

Perhaps it’s the fucking guns?

I would trade a good chunk of my gun rights back if the US would treat criminals the way Singapore does.  Punishment not a deterrent my ass. 

[4th&Five 41701]

1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

I would trade a good chunk of my gun rights back if the US would treat criminals the way Singapore does.  Punishment not a deterrent my ass. 

Yeah, US prisons are a real cakewalk!  Most mass shooters are expecting to die anyway.

[royiv 9447]

2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I would trade a good chunk of my gun rights back if the US would treat criminals the way Singapore does.  Punishment not a deterrent my ass. 

Lol. "A good chunk." Can't give them all up, can you?