Mass Shootings

[jimmyjazz 45899]

2 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

That's a satire account.

It's also on point for far too many people.

[Red Five 40852]

So the country with the most guns also has more mass shootings than the rest of the world combined. Golly, I'm sure there is an answer there but I'm just not smart enough to locate it. More guns? 

Like, in that argument.... "Well it's 2040, and every person in America now walks around with five guns. And there hasn't been a mass shooting in years! I don't know why we never tried this before. Stupid liberals."

 

[alincoln 2371]

16 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yep. Like clockwork, the right has come out with their standard trio of responses: 1)) it’s too soon to talk politics, BUT…. 2) thoughts and prayers, and we need more God and Jesus, and 3) the solution to there being so many highly lethal guns out there is…we need more people with more guns.

We are the worst fucking society. I hate it. I hate that they’ve won. That they’ve created their dream, and the inevitable result is a little girl with her face blown off. Oh…who am I kidding. “A” little girl with her face blown off - no, it’s been dozens of them. We’ll get up to the hundreds, probably in the next 5 years. Every one of them a trophy to put on the shelf as a symbol of their victory. It’s over. They’ve won. This is who we are, and what we will be, forever.

Good lord you are hysterical.  The Ds are going to control every branch of govt within the next 10 years for the next 50 years.  

[Basil 754]

This is insane:

If a conservative Supreme Court can toss Roe on a whim, a liberal one can toss ar-15 and other dumbass guns to the bottom of the ocean. Years ago Warren Burger called out the NRA’s interpretation of the 2nd as a fraud. It would not be that difficult to craft an opinion better reasoned than Dobbs to make most of not all guns illegal. Especially with the Court being just an disrespected partisan tool these days. We just need to hope for some untimely deaths for the religious fundies looking to install Jesus as president.

[gyroprotagonist 2592]

damn, we were driving up to see SIL in Allen yesterday and saw a shitload of emergency vehicles en route to somewhere in a hurry.  congrats i guess to the Constitution for allowing people the right to cosplay as a soldier and occasionally quite often kill a lot of people.  

[Goofyboy 3278]

Good lord you are hysterical.  The Ds are going to control every branch of govt within the next 10 years for the next 50 years.  

No, they aren’t. Elections are basically gone at this point. If the Republicans in power don’t like the election outcome, they will just over turn it and the courts have now said it’s fine.

[gyroprotagonist 2592]

5 minutes ago, Basil said:

If a conservative Supreme Court can toss Roe on a whim, a liberal one can toss ar-15 and other dumbass guns to the bottom of the ocean. Years ago Warren Burger called out the NRA’s interpretation of the 2nd as a fraud. It would not be that difficult to craft an opinion better reasoned than Dobbs to make most of not all guns illegal. Especially with the Court being just an disrespected partisan tool these days. We just need to hope for some untimely deaths for the religious fundies looking to install Jesus as president.

But i am of the same thought.  How did we get to the point of 'right to bear arms' means anything and everything goes?  Yes, you can own a gun, here are some nice bolt-action rifles to choose from.  2A satisfied and no evil kings in sight trying to tyrannically tax you without representation.

I think stopping the sale immediately of say AR-15s and the like would prevent some mass shootings or maybe just lower the damage caused.  What would confiscation look like?  would that set off a 1000 Wacos across the country?  Start a larger movement?  How committed are wacko 2A Punisher wannabes when a SWAT team is at their door asking to buy back their military hardware?  How likely is middle mgmt Joe who saved up to buy a Barrett to shoot as his friend's ranch twice a year to give it up?

would it get to the point that the Nat. Guard is called in?  would there be too many 2A sympathizers in SWAT, Nat. Guard, LEO community etc... to make confiscation possible?

[jimmyjazz 45899]

A ban on manufacture, sale/import of AR-15 class weapons would have pricing impacts.  Even if a buyback is only partially effective, the value of the remaining weapons and hardware would spike, putting them out of reach for some buyers.  Closing private sale loopholes would help, too.

[Voldemort86 2259]

24 minutes ago, Basil said:

If a conservative Supreme Court can toss Roe on a whim, a liberal one can toss ar-15 and other dumbass guns to the bottom of the ocean. Years ago Warren Burger called out the NRA’s interpretation of the 2nd as a fraud. It would not be that difficult to craft an opinion better reasoned than Dobbs to make most of not all guns illegal. Especially with the Court being just a disrespected partisan tool these days. We just need to hope for some untimely deaths for the religious fundies looking to install Jesus as president.

I keep hoping for the health of Clarence Thomas to fail, but it’s not working.I

[LonghornSean 3994]

 

[bolverk 29665]

Just another reminder the number of mass shooting incidents has almost doubled since 2018 (children killed/injured +33% since then), and that the number of incidents involving the defensive use of guns (the purported reason for arming everyfuckingbody) is LESS THAN unintentional shootings.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

 

Recorded incidents so far this year (Woohoo! Texas looks like it's in the lead on inflicting violence on our children!):

 

Looks like Texas is leading on the oopsies too.

 

199 mass shootings this year:

[cactusflinthead 27598]

 

[Dnaguy 11944]

Considering things like this happen in waves, it’s only going to get worse IMO.

On a macro level, Look at things like serial killers in the 70-80’s.

Child abductions in the 80’s and 90’s.

Until the recent opiate crisis look at suicides. The more they get publicized, the more ‘copy cat’ folks participate. 

It’s a weird feature of human beings. So without intervention this is only going to get worse and worse. We aren’t going to fix people’s broken brains. We have to go after the instrument that lets the broken brains take us out in their last hurrah. (This comes from someone with a broken brain).

 

Edited May 7, 2023 by Dnaguy

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20395]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Think about that.  Mass shootings can be ignored because some people don't know what "AR" stands for.  The mind rot is real.

That Twitter account is satire.

[elfenix 34230]

6 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

That Twitter account is satire.

of a pretty common argument technique by gun fetishists. 

[cactusflinthead 27598]

 

[TexEx15 17510]

Edited May 7, 2023 by TexEx15

[Stilicho 1397]

10 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

This is insane:

So now the play is it’s really “the Left’s” fault and the answer is more institutionalization, incarceration, and… whatever “fortification” means (obviously must not mean checking for guns)?

Or is it the “Deus Vult” bullshit that God’s plan requires brutally murdering kids with assault rifles?

[Surly Bevo 24908]

Yep. Like clockwork, the right has come out with their standard trio of responses: 1)) it’s too soon to talk politics, BUT…. 2) thoughts and prayers, and we need more God and Jesus, and 3) the solution to there being so many highly lethal guns out there is…we need more people with more guns.

We are the worst fucking society. I hate it. I hate that they’ve won. That they’ve created their dream, and the inevitable result is a little girl with her face blown off. Oh…who am I kidding. “A” little girl with her face blown off - no, it’s been dozens of them. We’ll get up to the hundreds, probably in the next 5 years. Every one of them a trophy to put on the shelf as a symbol of their victory. It’s over. They’ve won. This is who we are, and what we will be, forever.

It’s not who we will be forever, but the change is going to involve more blood and unrest and maybe a lot of it.

[GSU&UT 1798]

28 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

It's fucking insane, most people and tons and tons of gun owners and enthusiasts want these things banned, yet it feels like we will never be able to achieve this.

[Red Five 40852]

I've never owned a gun. I have no desire to own a gun. I haven't fired a gun since summer camp when I was probably 12. This is all insanity. 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20395]

If we just take away the drag queen's guns and books we'd be a lot safer.

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1549]

5 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

If we just take away the drag queen's guns and books we'd be a lot safer.

even worse are the ILLEGAL drag queens. 

[cactusflinthead 27598]

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19190]

11 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

Who’s gonna pay for all of that?

Bigger question is which political donor is going to receive all the money that gets spent on fortification.

[David Dennison 18854]

Ironically, the left should arm itself with the express goal of repealing the Second Amendment.

[Fudge Nuggets 19190]

2 hours ago, aggie08 said:

"The only thing that can stop guns is more guns" has got to be the dumbest idea going in a country full of really dumb ideas.

And those same jackasses think the best way to reduce deficits is to decrease the amount of tax revenue you bring in.  GQP is shit at math.

[Surly Bevo 24908]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Ironically, the left should arm itself with the express goal of repealing the Second Amendment.

That is what it likely eventually comes to.

[DDD Dad 14332]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Sure I do.  Here's a clip:

Here's a magazine:

All you need now is a rage and a neg and you've hit for the cycle.

[Red Five 40852]

The thoughts and prayers aren't working. Or they are, and this god of theirs really likes dead kids and violence. Which is it?

[elfenix 34230]

2 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

All you need now is a rage and a neg and you've hit for the cycle.

 

[jimmyjazz 45899]

53 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

That Twitter account is satire.

Look up.

[jimmyjazz 45899]

8 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

All you need now is a rage and a neg and you've hit for the cycle.

I did it!

[David Dennison 18854]

Just now, Red Five said:

The thoughts and prayers aren't working. Or they are, and this god of theirs really likes dead kids and violence. Which is it?

It's all part of the Republican Party's plan to capture more of the white vote because of the left's seeming inability to protect innocent people from violence and the other. We're heading straight into the arms of fascism.

 

[RomaVicta 29905]

12 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

If Sandy Hook couldn't make a difference, a photo of a single child killed won't move the needle.

 

 

SecondAmendies would have a great place for selfies! The sane among us could station snipers on nearby billboards. The gun nuts will get their chance to wear their guns at a real shooting! Profit.

I believe strongly that pictures from these scenes should be published widely. The fantacists who believe these situations would be solved by arming teachers need to see what they suggest risking and what their historic response to child slaughters has wrought.

Consider a comparison with marching local Germans into the concentration camps to see what Nazi-ism led to. Matthew McConaughey's description of the Uvalde child indentifiable only by her shoes was moving. Very moving. It's rare that a non-visual representation can evoke a response such as a photo would garner at a glance. McConaughey's effort was a rarity.

Publish the photographs. This is what we allow. This slaughter site is a lower priority in our gun culture than ownership of weapons designed to do this kind of damage in just seconds. This is who we are.

This is what we allow ourselves to grow accustomed to while still thinking of ourselves as a great and serious country. 

We're none of that shit and haven't been since the country embraced Reagan and Limbaugh and Fallwell. We have never been as great as we insist that we are. Hubris is at the heart of Greek tragedies.

[Stilicho 1397]

24 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

That is what it likely eventually comes to.

Which is the endgame the gun nuts actually want. The notion that they can mow down some of their leftist neighbors with their semi-auto freedom machines is one of the pillars of the conservative wet dream.

[speed817 19257]

 

[RPM 26318]

That's odd. I haven't seen a fucking thing change in Texas. 

[RomaVicta 29905]

11 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

Fortification for soft targets huh? Schools (elementary through college), churches, malls, Walmart, movie theaters, festivals, bars, restaurants, night clubs, private residences. But sure it’s us who are not serious. 

 

11 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

Who’s gonna pay for all of that?

 

11 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

Maybe we start by posting the 10 commandments in all of them. 

 

11 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Mexico. Or Iraqi oil. Take your pick. 

Naw. A tax hike for the top 2%.

[Surly Bevo 24908]

MOAR GUNS

 

[Degenerate Gardner 4085]

A corollary of our collective failure to manage guns in the US is a pessimism that we’re capable as a people of seriously addressing climate change. If you can’t even rally the troops to a clear cut, man made problem that regularly kills children as seen on TV, what hope is there that enough of the audience will be moved by a slower-unfolding disaster with multiple etiologies and somewhat localized effects? We couldn’t even all agree that masks are not a personal infringement during a modern plague. We are a nation of dumbfucks that need to get on the same page.

[mdmost 43001]

Yeah you'd think we as many guns as we have in this state that there would be no soft targets and these guys would think twice before going on killing sprees. It's almost like they don't care about the consequences once they've decided they want to kill people. So I dunno, maybe limit their ability to get these weapons. Nah, that's crazy talk. Forget I said it. 

[Red Five 40852]

It's like there's an epidemic of faulty brakes in cars killing people. We keep installing the faulty brakes in more cars, and more people die as a result every year. "More faulty brakes! This won't stop until we've put faulty brakes in everyone's cars!". 

People sending out Christmas cards posing with their faulty brakes, etc. 

Edited May 7, 2023 by Red Five

[David Dennison 18854]

1 minute ago, Red Five said:

It's like there's an epidemic of faulty brakes in cars killing people. We keep installing the faulty brakes in more cars, and more people die as a result every year. "More faulty breaks! This won't stop until we've put faulty brakes in everyone's cars!". 

People sending out Christmas cars posing with their faulty brakes, etc. 

Mass shootings will continue to happen as long as we are governed by radicals who believe the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to own weapons of mass destruction.

[AnTiM 1666]

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

It's like there's an epidemic of faulty brakes in cars killing people. We keep installing the faulty brakes in more cars, and more people die as a result every year. "More faulty brakes! This won't stop until we've put faulty brakes in everyone's cars!". 

People sending out Christmas cards posing with their faulty brakes, etc. 

Don't worry folks.  The day will eventually come when the last surviving person can wave their semi in the air and shout "I made it, Ma!  Top of the heap!"

[Surly Bevo 24908]

11 minutes ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

A corollary of our collective failure to manage guns in the US is a pessimism that we’re capable as a people of seriously addressing climate change. If you can’t even rally the troops to a clear cut, man made problem that regularly kills children as seen on TV, what hope is there that enough of the audience will be moved by a slower-unfolding disaster with multiple etiologies and somewhat localized effects? We couldn’t even all agree that masks are not a personal infringement during a modern plague. We are a nation of dumbfucks that need to get on the same page.

Well the good news is that we've fucked up education so much that more dumbfucks are on the way.

[RomaVicta 29905]

10 hours ago, Hermanator said:

Oh they want to talk about a lack of mental health institutions in this country?

Well let's see in 1980 democrat president Carter signed the Mental Health Systems Act of 1980 to bolster the funding for mental health institutions in the US. A year later republican president Reagan signed the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981 that repealed pretty much all of it and cut budgeting for mental health even further. In the 42 years since republicans have been responsible for further cuts. 

So that's on you republican fucks too. The entire problem is on you. 

I recall reading at the time about the particularly cruel twist in this story. The act Carter signed called for moving patients from large scale institution to better small scale accommodations. The big institutions closed down, but Reagan's move killed funding for the second part. The mental patients have nowhere to go and find themselves homeless.

If you look, you'll see where homelessness starts becoming a prominent issue. Crazy people are wandering the sidewalks! I guess they just don't care about being homeless, but they're making the sidewalks unpleasant! 

Non-profits and some churches have made efforts, but they don't have the resources the government does. Now they're scorned. Our previous president suggests criminalizing their plight, rounding them into concentration camps, and making our beautiful streets great again.

Cruelty is our brand. @Brisketexan

[Surly Bevo 24908]

3 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Well the good news is that we've fucked up education so much that more dumbfucks are on the way.

Oh and more good news.  Abortions are a lot harder to get in many places now so more unwanted children for that fucked up education system to try to make "not dumbfucks"

Clevon is out there....and he's coming for your soul.  

Edited May 7, 2023 by Surly Bevo

[RomaVicta 29905]

3 hours ago, aggie08 said:

"The only thing that can stop guns is more guns" has got to be the dumbest idea going in a country full of really dumb ideas.

In the 70s, anti-war groups responded to the notion of using armed forces to keep the peace with this slogan:

Fighting for peace is like fucking for chastity.

So it fits right in with our history of dumb ideas regarding shooting people we don't even know.

[Stilicho 1397]

6 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Oh and more good news.  Abortions are a lot harder to get in many places now so more unwanted children for that fucked up education system to try to make "not dumbfucks"

Clevon is out there....and he's coming for your soul.  

It's a sadistic arithmetic the Christian Taliban have working right now.

We need to zealously do away with abortion because its killing unborn kids (their god cannot prevent abortion, apparently), but we need to zealously protect people's right to kill born kids (their god needs these kids as Jesus freedom martyr space ghosts).

Edited May 7, 2023 by Stilicho
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