Mass Shootings

[hookemATL 11634]

3 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Hmm, maybe this is old news but just caught on CNN that the Jacksonville shooter was under psychiatric care and was taking medication. If your laws allow people like that to buy/own firearms maybe you need to revisit said laws and, you know, maybe fucking change things up a bit.

Fuck that. Do you have any idea the negative impact that would have on the number of pages in this thread?  We cannot let that happen. 

[Anastasis 23411]

10 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Hmm, maybe this is old news but just caught on CNN that the Jacksonville shooter was under psychiatric care and was taking medication. If your laws allow people like that to buy/own firearms maybe you need to revisit said laws and, you know, maybe fucking change things up a bit.

Huge gaping holes in the NICS system when it comes to this stuff in particular, but I don't think that most Americans would find some of the solutions to fix that system acceptable. 

[purplepride95 6890]

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

America in a nutshell. 

 

Edited August 29, 2023 by purplepride95

[C-Man 27129]

4 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Huge gaping holes in the NICS system when it comes to this stuff in particular, but I don't think that most Americans would find some of the solutions to fix that system acceptable. 

And what solutions are those?

[Anastasis 23411]

13 minutes ago, C-Man said:

And what solutions are those?

What individuals with mental illness specifically do you want to exclude?  Anyone seeing a psychiatrist or a therapist? People with specific diagnoses in their medical history? Individuals on particular medications. Give me the parameters and I will give you a solution. I think that we can all agree that the current MH data that are submitted to NICS (when they are actually submitted) are inadequate. How far do you want to go? 

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Whatever mental health diagnosis includes punisher, come and take it, don’t tread on me, and III percent stickers on your vehicle would probably suffice.

[Foosters 17772]

36 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Huge gaping holes in the NICS system when it comes to this stuff in particular, but I don't think that most Americans would find some of the solutions to fix that system acceptable. 

31 minutes ago, C-Man said:

And what solutions are those?

14 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

What individuals with mental illness specifically do you want to exclude?  Anyone seeing a psychiatrist or a therapist? People with specific diagnoses in their medical history? Individuals on particular medications. Give me the parameters and I will give you a solution. I think that we can all agree that the current MH data that are submitted to NICS (when they are actually submitted) are inadequate. How far do you want to go? 

LOL

[Anastasis 23411]

4 minutes ago, Foosters said:

LOL

The real LOL here is this idea that we are going to build a MH database that covers 300MM+ people, pipe it into the FBI, and that Americans are going to find such a solution acceptable. It's technically feasible and could be built off the distributed data networks built under the FDA Sentinel program. The infrastructure and data are already there, primary barrier is some legislation required to re-identify the data.  

[Captainant 27526]

59 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Huge gaping holes in the NICS system when it comes to this stuff in particular, but I don't think that most Americans would find some of the solutions to fix that system acceptable. 

NICS was designed to be nothing more than a figleaf anyways - it's literally illegal to digitize those records! It's designed to be nearly impossible to traverse that dataset at scale - for fear of privacy violations!

Crazy how porn is more restricted than guns

[jimmyjazz 45684]

Golly, we can't do everything, so let's do nothing!

Excellent plan.

[wildcat09 29311]

Well if we actually want to do anything, step 1 would be expanding the Supreme Court. Because the current Supreme Court will just say "hey, they didn't have that law on the books in 1791 so you can't do it now." 

[aggie08 21462]

6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Golly, we can't do everything, so let's do nothing!

Posters have been incorrectly stating that Republicans don't have policies. Incorrect. This is their fucking mission statement.

[C-Man 27129]

9 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Golly, we can't do everything, so let's do nothing!

Excellent plan.

And people say the GOP doesn't have a true party platform!

[Bama Chick 28596]

Front page of the next UNC student newspaper.



This country, man.

[YChang 3433]

It was only 1 shooter, not a mass shooting.  Stop spreading lies lib!

Edited August 30, 2023 by YChang

[4th&Five 41486]

Yeah, it’s not like these things impact people other than the victims. I’m sure the kids who survived Uvalde never think about it. 

[HenryJames 65931]

30 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Front page of the next UNC student newspaper.



This country, man.

My niece was sheltering in place in the same building where the shooting occurred.

[Sawbonz 27470]

On 8/28/2023 at 2:08 PM, henrygandorf said:

don't kid yourself.  the distance between black vs white and rich vs poor is a very short distance.  i would even go so far as to say some factions use race as a red herring to keep white poors voting against their own self-interests.

Hoover had such a hardon for MLK not because of the what he was doing to advance rights for blacks but rather because his speeches on poverty were gaining traction amongst poor whites. That would have been real trouble 

[hookemATL 11634]

20 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Hoover had such a hardon for MLK not because of the what he was doing to advance rights for blacks but rather because his speeches on poverty were gaining traction amongst poor whites. That would have been real trouble 

Tbf he almost always had a hardon due to the way the panties felt against his junk. 

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2660]

the default should be shifted to who can rather than who cannot possess. The 2nd is vague and doesn't support the current SCOTus interp. Who can own, in terms of the need to actually own weapons that are more than recreational or self-defense, would be less fraught than excluding out groups who can't. Very radical view only to this country, I'm aware 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33855]

start holding gun manufacturers liable. you don't have to take anything away, but you can bet they'll be quick to help enact legislation that is beneficial to the public if they get pantsed in a few wrongful death suits.

Edited August 30, 2023 by Longhorn_Fan68

[hayden_horn 11362]

11 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

start holding gun manufacturers liable. you don't have to take anything away, but you can bet they'll be quick to help enact legislation that is beneficial to the public if they get pantsed in a few wrongful death suits.

fucking lawn darts yall

[C-Man 27129]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/05/opinions/guns-ar-15-uvalde-school-shooting-fanone/index.html

Michael Fanone weighs in on the AR-15 question.

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No weapon has been more in the public eye in America of late than the AR-15, in large part because of its tragic role in some of this country’s deadliest shootings.

The AR-15 has the dubious distinction of being America’s most popular semi-automatic rifle. I’m more familiar with the gun than most people: I own one. And one thing I know for sure is that this weapon doesn’t belong in the hands of the average civilian.

I’ve owned multiple firearms for most of my life. I spent two decades in the Washington Metropolitan Police Department in a number of different roles, as a street cop walking the beat and on various special mission units.

I’m also a card-carrying member of the National Rifle Association. And when I wasn’t at my job doing police work, I worked part-time for several years in firearm sales as well as training law enforcement officers, members of the military and civilians.

I purchased my different guns over the years for the same reason that you might purchase a flathead screwdriver along with a Phillips screwdriver: Each one serves a different purpose. As an avid hunter, I’ve got a gun that I use for turkey hunting, one that I use for waterfowl and one I use to hunt deer and larger game like elk.

I purchased my AR-15 because I was assigned one as part of my police duties. But officers weren’t allowed to take our department-issued weapons home. I felt it was my responsibility to become proficient with any weapon I’d been assigned, so I bought one. And I’ve spent hundreds of hours training so that I could properly use it.

I’ve sold guns at big box retailers and I’ve also sold firearms at a small retail gun store. Some gun buyers have been misled into thinking that the AR-15 is somehow practical for self-defense. But frankly, it’s the last gun that I would recommend for that purpose.

Usually, the motivation for purchasing the AR-15 is simple: People want one because they want one. Most times, the person who buys an AR-15 comes into the store already knowing that they intend to purchase one.

I’ve pressed some customers about why they want an AR-15, but no one could ever come up with a legitimate justification for needing that particular weapon.

Some members of the tinfoil hat brigade have come up with the reply, “We need these weapons because we want to be effective against the government if it becomes tyrannical. That’s part of our Second Amendment right.” Personally, I think that’s ludicrous, but it has become an increasingly popular justification for purchasing a semi-automatic rifle.

The AR-15 was given to law enforcement because more and more frequently police officers were encountering these types of weapons on the street and finding that they were outgunned. One example that springs to mind is the famous 1997 North Hollywood, California, shootout at the Bank of America.

In that incident, two individuals clad in body armor held up a bank in the Los Angeles neighborhood. Police who responded at the scene literally had to run to a nearby gun store to purchase more powerful weapons, because they were using 9 mm pistols, while the bad guys were armed with semi-automatic rifles.

The standoff was one of the most infamous gun battles in American history, with 11 officers wounded – luckily, none fatally – and both robbery suspects shot dead. While it’s an extreme example, it is in many ways the situation encountered by officers all across this country: Police simply are outgunned against semi- and fully automatic firearms.

The bullet that comes out of the barrel of an AR-15 style semi-automatic rifle can easily penetrate the target – the intruder or whatever person you are using deadly force to defend yourself or others from.

But it also will go through the wall behind that person, and potentially through that room and into the next wall. That power and accuracy are useful for military purposes, which is obviously what they were designed for. But it’s far more power than should ever be in the hands of the average civilian.

The bullet fired by the AR-15 is capable of defeating the average police officer’s body armor, like a knife slicing through butter. SWAT teams and some of the more specialized units typically are equipped with level IV Kevlar or steel-plated armor, which would stop maybe two or three direct hits, but eventually body armor breaks down after being hit with multiple rounds.

A person wielding an AR-15 has a range beyond 300 yards. For an officer armed with a 9 mm pistol, hitting a target beyond 50 yards is going to be difficult, even for the most accomplished marksman. A bullet fired by an AR-15 travels at three times the velocity as one fired by a 9 mm handgun. And magazines that can feed dozens of rounds into the weapon in the space of minutes clearly were meant for use only on the battlefield.

The prevalence of these weapons means police sometimes are overmatched, as we saw with the mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas, last month. In a situation where you have small children near the shooter, you want to remove the threat as quickly as possible.

But we all saw the tragic consequences at that elementary school, where police waited for more than an hour before engaging with the teenage gunman armed with an AR-15 who killed 19 young children and two teachers.

I have no doubt that police in Uvalde wish they had had weapons as powerful as the one carried by the shooter who snuffed out the lives of the victims in that school. But a far better outcome would have been if the shooter didn’t have an AR-15 in the first place.

Now that I’m no longer on the police force, my AR-15 collects dust in my gun safe. Rifle ranges that permit the type of training required to use this weapon system effectively are few and far between and the cost of ammunition exceeding a dollar per round is more than this guy can afford. I no longer need it. But neither, to be honest, do most of the people flocking to guns stores to buy one.

Banning these powerful weapons from the civilian marketplace is a no-brainer, as are universal background checks. Neither move is going to solve all the gun problems that we have, but it would be a start.

And outlawing these AR-15s would not require confiscating them from people who already have them. Once you’ve made these weapons illegal, anyone found with one would be subject to arrest, since possession of these weapons would be a crime. I think it’s likely that you would see a lot of people opting to turn them in.

If banning them outright seems like too extreme a solution to be politically palatable, here’s another option: Reclassify semi-automatic rifles as Class 3 firearms.

That would mean that someone wanting to purchase an AR-15 would have to go through a background check, fingerprinting and review by an official from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives – a process that takes anywhere from 12 to 16 months. And since Class 3 weapons can’t be purchased by anyone younger than 21, it would solve the issue of emotionally unstable 18-year-olds buying them.

A Class 3 firearm reclassification would also make those who are approved to purchase these weapons subject to an annual check that they are complying with federal regulations regarding secure storage of the firearm, and to confirm their licensing and other paperwork is up to date. All of these hoops and hurdles are sure to reduce the civilian demand for these weapons.

I can’t overstate how dangerous it is to have semi-automatic weapons like the AR-15 in the hands of civilians. Our public officials have it within their power to help make it harder for people who shouldn’t have these weapons to get them.

A police officer should never have to worry about being outgunned by the bad guy they’re protecting the public against.

 

[ultimaton 2966]

On 8/27/2023 at 4:38 PM, fattyflattie said:

It’s pretty simple to me.  I live in Houston.  Statistics can tell you where I’m more likely to be shot, and the odds simply aren’t “lunatic with AR-15”.  
 

Crazy we have information coming out on this manifesto but still nothing on Nashville.  Curious. 

It really isn't all that curious, you shit-for-brains idiot:

https://apnews.com/article/nashville-school-shooting-covenant-4d1da17b8a05ba609b0ff18775da23c6

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NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — A group of Tennessee parents whose children attend The Covenant School, where a deadly shooting in March took the lives of three 9-year-olds and three adults, filed a motion Wednesday seeking to keep the shooter’s writings from being released to the public.

“The Parents see no good that can come from the release and wish to contend that the writings — which they believe are the dangerous and harmful writings of a mentally-damaged person — should not be released at all,” their filling reads.

https://apnews.com/article/covenant-nashville-shooting-manifesto-efb8c1d737bb24a88d6c91e6809af7d1

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Nashville police said they will release the Covenant shooter’s writings but not until they close the investigation, which could take a year. In the face of this delay, multiple groups have sued for access, including a state senator, The Tennessean newspaper and a gun-rights organization. On the other side, The Covenant School, the church that shares its building, and many of the school’s parents want to keep the records private.

Such a fight is unusual but not unprecedented. A similar legal battle in the 2000s led to the eventual release of most of the Columbine killers’ writings, audiotapes and videotapes. In that case, Columbine parents fought for access to the records, believing they would show a cover-up by the local sheriff.

In the Covenant shooting, it’s the parents who want the shooter’s writings kept secret.

Erin Kinney, mother of one of the slain children, filed a declaration with the court stating she has not seen the shooter’s writings but believes there are no answers to be found in them.

“I do not believe there was any motivation other than a desire for death, and there is nothing that could ever make the horrible act of killing children make sense,” Kinney writes. “The public release of these writings will not prevent the next attack. There is nothing in the journals to satisfy the yearning, overactive minds of the conspiracy theorists.”

[fattyflattie 4637]

40 minutes ago, ultimaton said:

It really isn't all that curious, you shit-for-brains idiot:

https://apnews.com/article/nashville-school-shooting-covenant-4d1da17b8a05ba609b0ff18775da23c6

https://apnews.com/article/covenant-nashville-shooting-manifesto-efb8c1d737bb24a88d6c91e6809af7d1

So now we are letting the grieving victims decide what’s best for public consumption?  This isn’t gory pics, it’s a document that could be used to learn more about the asshole that did it, and potentially why they did it.  I’m pretty sure one could glean some information from that.  OR, this particular asshole checks ALOT of the boxes that people don’t want to discuss.  Im sure that’s not it. 

[wildcat09 29311]

7 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

So now we are letting the grieving victims decide what’s best for public consumption?  This isn’t gory pics, it’s a document that could be used to learn more about the asshole that did it, and potentially why they did it.  I’m pretty sure one could glean some information from that.  OR, this particular asshole checks ALOT of the boxes that people don’t want to discuss.  Im sure that’s not it. 

It's definitely a big conspiracy with courts and the relevant police departments all in on it. You fucking idiot.

[fattyflattie 4637]

4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

It's definitely a big conspiracy with courts and the relevant police departments all in on it. You fucking idiot.

Yet others are available. And you don’t have quotes from the victims swearing there’s nothing to see here, move along.  

[jimmyjazz 45684]

12 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

OR, this particular asshole checks ALOT of the boxes that people don’t want to discuss.  Im sure that’s not it. 

Jesus H, just use your words.  What are you getting at?

[wildcat09 29311]

5 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Yet others are available. And you don’t have quotes from the victims swearing there’s nothing to see here, move along.  

Yup, the parents are in on it too. You've figured it all out.

[DDD Dad 14272]

33 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Jesus H, just use your words.  What are you getting at?

He was trans.  Therefore THE LAMESTREAM MEDIA and LIB DEEP STATE are conspiring to keep things from us.

[fattyflattie 4637]

6 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

He was trans.  Therefore THE LAMESTREAM MEDIA and LIB DEEP STATE are conspiring to keep things from us.

Targeting a Christian school. Several outliers. 

[DDD Dad 14272]

2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Targeting a Christian school. Several outliers. 

The school he attended.  And likely resented due to what I suspect may have been somewhat less than sympathetic views towards people struggling with LBGTQ+ status.

Edited August 30, 2023 by DDD Dad

[fattyflattie 4637]

3 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

The school he attended.  And likely resented due to what I suspect may have been somewhat less than sympathetic views towards people struggling with LBGTQ+ status.

Assumptions that are typically cleared up somehow…when the parents say it’s ok to release, I suppose.  Or fuck it guess it’s not the public’s business to understand what causes these timebombs to go off. 

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

15 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

start holding gun manufacturers liable. you don't have to take anything away, but you can bet they'll be quick to help enact legislation that is beneficial to the public if they get pantsed in a few wrongful death suits.

That's a start, but I would put more onus on the seller. If you sell someone a firearm and it is used in a shooting, crime etc, then you are held liable like a bartender would for over serving a drunk.

Also treat them like cars, license, registration, and insurance on all firearms.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33855]

Just now, Grade of D as in David said:

That's a start, but I would put more onus on the seller. If you sell someone a firearm and it is used in a shooting, crime etc, then you are held liable like a bartender would for over serving a drunk.

Also treat them like cars, license, registration, and insurance on all firearms.

great ideas. here's a thought. let's do all that. we're still not taking guns away from anyone (except those that become evidence). somehow some galaxy brain is still going to pretzel the argument into this being a taking of some kind.

[wildcat09 29311]

17 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Assumptions that are typically cleared up somehow…when the parents say it’s ok to release, I suppose.  Or fuck it guess it’s not the public’s business to understand what causes these timebombs to go off. 

You've basically turned into an infowars listener, you deranged lunatic. What's next, are you gonna stalk the victims' parents?

[Macanudo 12953]

15 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

start holding gun manufacturers liable. you don't have to take anything away, but you can bet they'll be quick to help enact legislation that is beneficial to the public if they get pantsed in a few wrongful death suits.

I know we want some resolutions but isn't this like holding liquor/beer/wine companies and car makers liable for DUIs?  

[Longhorn_Fan68 33855]

1 minute ago, Macanudo said:

I know we want some resolutions but isn't this like holding liquor/beer/wine companies and car makers liable for DUIs?  

no, because there are already regulations in place to protect against that and to give those entities enough cover. Bars are sure as shit liable if they overserve you and you kill someone, but it generally stops there. If there was any modicum of protection for the public for these weapons of death, then that would be one thing. But when these same manufacturers are directly or indirectly (read: NRA) opposing common sense legislation (and spending a LOT of money it, too), then yeah, I think we should hold them liable.

[Blotto 23470]

On 8/29/2023 at 1:27 PM, 4th&Five said:

America in a nutshell. 

 

I gotta be honest....I figured this would cause a life-ending priapism for ole @fattyflattie. 

[Sawbonz 27470]

17 hours ago, hookemATL said:

Tbf he almost always had a hardon due to the way the panties felt against his junk. 

[A-Tex Devil 2445]

1 hour ago, fattyflattie said:

Assumptions that are typically cleared up somehow…when the parents say it’s ok to release, I suppose.  Or fuck it guess it’s not the public’s business to understand what causes these timebombs to go off. 

Why do *you* need to know?  The victims’ families asked for it not to be released. I presume the people that need to investigate and learn from this have gotten access.  So others’ manifestos were released?  Who gives a fuck. They probably shouldn’t have been if the victims’ families asked not to.  We as the public aren’t owed this information.  Nothing in it is going to help the average person more readily identify a mass shooter.   I sure as hell know you aren’t going to do anything good with it other than parrot what your MAGA media overlords tell you to. 

Edited August 30, 2023 by A-Tex Devil

[fattyflattie 4637]

1 minute ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Why do *you* need to know?  The victims’ families asked for it not to be released. I presume the people that need to investigate and learn from this have gotten access.  So others’ manifestos were released?  Who gives a fuck. They probably shouldn’t have been if the victims’ families asked not to.  We as the public aren’t owed this information.   I sure as hell know you aren’t going to do anything good with it other than parrot what your MAGA media overlords tell you to. 

Why is it so important to know every detail of the others then?  We typically broadcast on the NEWS the last time they were on 8chan or whatever the fuck, their handle, twitter, facebook, where and when they bought the gun, and even how many times they've practiced with it (Uvalde).   Now, it's no longer important for the news channels to blast all that out?  Cool, cool. 

[Zepol87 9176]

23 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Golly, we can't do everything, so let's do nothing!

Excellent plan.

The American way 

[DDD Dad 14272]

1 hour ago, fattyflattie said:

Why is it so important to know every detail of the others then?  We typically broadcast on the NEWS the last time they were on 8chan or whatever the fuck, their handle, twitter, facebook, where and when they bought the gun, and even how many times they've practiced with it (Uvalde).   Now, it's no longer important for the news channels to blast all that out?  Cool, cool. 

Obligatory:

[C-Man 27129]

Not a mass shooting but more idiocy with firearms leading to a needless tragedy where a 4-year-old is shot and killed. Warning, this is horrid story: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12458769/tennessee-breanna-runions-firearm-safety-evangaline-gunter.html

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A Tennessee woman has been charged with murder after fatally shooting a four-year-old girl, putting a gun to her chest and pulling the trigger in what she initially claimed was 'firearm safety training'.

Breanna Runions, 25, was arrested on Sunday after four-year-old Evangaline Gunter was shot dead.

After the shooting in Rockwood, Tennessee, Runions and her girlfriend put the child in a car and drove to seek medical help, calling 911 as they drove. 

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They met EMTs in a Walmart parking lot, WBIR reported, and the child was taken to hospital and pronounced dead on arrival.

Runions told police that she had ensured the gun was unloaded, and pointed it at her chest as a firearm lesson. But her girlfriend contradicted her, WBIR said. 

The girlfriend said that Evangaline and a second seven-year-old child were being punished by Runions after they failed to wake the two adults up. 

The children were also in trouble for eating food that belonged to Runions' girlfriend.

Runions is believed to have been put in charge of Evangaline by the courts: her relationship with the child, and the seven-year-old, is not known. 

Runions' girlfriend said that Runions hit both children with a sandal and ordered the pair to stand in separate corners of the adults' bedroom.

The girlfriend said Runions then took out a gun and removed the magazine, then called Evangaline over and shot her in the chest. 

Officials said that the girlfriend and the seven-year-old were in the room during the shooting but had their backs to the scene and did not witness the trigger being pulled: the bullet hit a glass bottle, and shards struck the other child.

Runions remains in jail, on a $1.5 million bond. A grand jury hearing will likely be held in February, said Russell Johnson, the district attorney.

Johnson said the department of children's services is investigating, and there had been previous reports to the DCS regarding the children living in the home.

Evangaline's parents Josie and Adam Gunter told WBIR that their daughter was sent there by the courts, but was only supposed to be there for two more months.

'I feel like it's my fault that I let her be there. I should have been more attentive,' said Josie Gunter. 

'I wish I could have been a better mother for her, to pay attention. 

'But it was a court decision in everything that we had done this for and this is what happens. 

'Her hugs were so full of life and love. That's the one thing I'm gonna miss the most, is her hugs and her smile.'

Adam Gunter said children should be kept away from guns.

'Don't have your guns out,' he said. 

'You're supposed to be gun-smart. Don't have the gun out.'

 

[henrygandorf 29183]

[Brisketexan 104806]

2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

It will end when every one of those UNC students votes, and votes against all Republicans, everywhere, in every office down to county ditch commissioner.  An entire party has become a death cult that worships at the altar of death.  Throw them out.  It's the only language they speak: pain.  So inflict it on them.  All of them.  Make them unelectable for anything under their present platform.

UNC needs 100% turnout, and 100% voting against the GQP.  And do it over, and over, and over.  Be as relentless in denying the GQP power as they've been relentless in shoving their minority view down the majority's throat.

[DalTxHornFan 3089]

4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

It will end when every one of those UNC students votes, and votes against all Republicans, everywhere, in every office down to county ditch commissioner.  An entire party has become a death cult that worships at the altar of death.  Throw them out.  It's the only language they speak: pain.  So inflict it on them.  All of them.  Make them unelectable for anything under their present platform.

UNC needs 100% turnout, and 100% voting against the GQP.  And do it over, and over, and over.  Be as relentless in denying the GQP power as they've been relentless in shoving their minority view down the majority's throat.

Dumb take.  Some grad student fucker from China uses a pistol to end a personal grievance against his professor, and it is a Republican issue in your mind?

[henrygandorf 29183]

5 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Dumb take.  Some grad student fucker from China uses a pistol to end a personal grievance against his professor, and it is a Republican issue in your mind?

sigh.  here is the problem.  it doesn't fucking matter who the shooter is.

it's. the. fucking. guns. always.

[Brisketexan 104806]

4 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Dumb take.  Some grad student fucker from China uses a pistol to end a personal grievance against his professor, and it is a Republican issue in your mind?

Yep.  Ubiquity of firearms is a broad problem.  Anyone, anytime can get any firearm they want, about as easily as ordering a #3 combo meal at the Wendy's drive-thru.  That's fucked in the head.

But keep whistling past the graveyard.  It's a super-genius path that will end GREAT for all of us gun owners.  Check out the pulse of this country on firearms: it has gotten much, much more hostile to gun rights and ownership in general, and that's due to the 1-2 punch of 1) firearms being used in high-profile crimes against innocents (read: not just drug deals -- it's easy to avoid getting shot in a drug deal, just don't engage in them....it's a lot harder to avoid getting shot when you go to school or Wal-Mart), and 2) the gun nut crown repeatedly telling the rest of America "get fucked.....wait, not just get 'get fucked,' but on top of that, we're going to pass laws making guns EASIER to get, and EASIER to carry everywhere!  Because fuck you!"

If you're too dumb to see how that approach will eventually end in the repeal of the 2nd amendment and a gutting of private ownership of firearms as we know it, I can't help you.  I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.