Mass Shootings

[wild_turkey 3181]

SIAP:
 

Disgusting.

[Brisketexan 105267]

Which leaders, specifically, and positive changes have you seen occur?  

No changes. Because I live in Texas. Where I’m outvoted by your friends.

[wild_turkey 3181]

I am so sick and tired of this bullshit. It feels pretty helpless because the GOP will fight to prevent gun regulation at all costs, and a large percentage of our country will vote R purely on principle, or because of some other topic like abortion or taxes, regardless of how they feel about actual guns.

My guess is that only a very small minority of Republican voters actually care about being able to buy an AR-15, but that isn’t a main issue for most voters, and it all comes as a GOP package deal. There is no number of dead children that will change their minds.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

No changes. Because I live in Texas. Where I’m outvoted by your friends.

This is the issue. And I’m not deterred by going against “my friends”. I do plenty, and knowing them, they’re more diverse in their opinions than most might think. 

What can be done at a federal level?

[Guest]

Just now, wild_turkey said:

I am so sick and tired of this bullshit. It feels pretty helpless because the GOP will fight to prevent gun regulation at all costs, and a large percentage of our country will vote R purely on principle, or because of some other topic like abortion or taxes, regardless of how they feel about actual guns. My guess is that only a very small minority of Republican voters actually care about being able to buy an AR-15, but that isn’t a main issue for most voters, and it all comes as a GOP package deal. There is no number of dead children that will change their minds.

Agreed. I’d go a step further for me and most of my friends that lean this way - not only do we not ever gonna own an AR-15, but we’d be supportive of extremely restrictive legislation, and I suspect a large chunk are like me in that we’re pro choice. It is hopeless. 

[royiv 9339]

2 hours ago, Porterhouse said:

Thanks pal. He was very much speaking straight to me and really at me, even after I said I knew one of the victims. 

Thoughts & prayers

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20471]

48 minutes ago, Porterhouse said:

I know that pastor. His daughter is to whom I’m referring.

Yes. 

What actions have you taken to lessen child murder?  How successful have you been with your actions?  If you have ideas that can effect change, I’m all ears. 

I can't speak for Brisket, but as for me I have not bought any high-powered assault rifles with bump stocks.  Therefore, the children that might have been killed by somebody using those rifles are still alive.  It's hard to say how many there are, but it's more than just a few.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20471]

 

 

[LonghornSean 4021]

1 minute ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

 

Damn those fucking doors

[henrygandorf 29194]

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33886]

13 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

 

seems like a good follow. how long till he's banned?

 

[henrygandorf 29194]

52 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

seems like a good follow. how long till he's banned?

 

 

[atomheartbevo 89777]

10 hours ago, dieucla98 said:

I had to google ETBF. Which came back with European Tenpin Bowling Federation. Which I also don't think is correct....

10 hours ago, Zepol87 said:

East Texas box face. It's real and scary

10 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

east texas box face.

anthropologists have wondered about the cause for decades. some say it's hillbilly whiskey. some say it's meth. we all know it's real.

Not to derail, but if I recall, it was Johnny Manziel's mom who kind of solidified that ETBF was a thing.

[cactusflinthead 27601]

 

[Bullneck 19200]

On 3/27/2023 at 10:47 PM, Porterhouse said:

I don’t know what to tell you other than I’ve been repeating this on this board for years. I don’t vote GOP because they disgust me. I’m politically apathetic because all politicians disgust me. Particularly at the national level (both parties). I’m not asking you to believe me. Maybe just don’t start taking me to task in a thread where I knew one of the deceased and my youngest is one year older than her. 

I understand why this thread is mocking our current gun laws and I’m acutely aware of the forum I’m in. There is nowhere else to discuss this and I just wanted to express despair. I never post in mass murder threads, and so I don’t get why you’d jump on me without knowing my feeling on guns. You’re being as presumptuous as I’ve ever witnessed. 

It's hard not to take you to task when gun violence has touched (ever so lightly) your life but you still won't do anything about it.  Not even the minimum, which is vote.

Take a moment and realize most people don't look favorably on such laziness or bizarre ideology.   

Edited March 29, 2023 by Bullneck

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

8 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

SIAP:

I grew up ping-ponging between Houston and Nashville, and when in Nashville the area around that school and church was where I was raised. that district is gerrymandered as fuck. Translated to Texas terms,  it's like lumping in  River Oaks with Brazoria County.  Or Highland Park  with Corsicana. It is just demonstrative  of  yet another  hurdle we have in the way of sensible gun laws. That card is designed to appeal to the yokels in his distrit an not the Nashville folk.

 

Edited March 28, 2023 by MaybeACoordinator

[Nice Guy Eddie 13521]

We should enact laws to control, not eliminate, access but I’ve come to the conclusion that some care more about their rights than dead children. Not mentioning names but there are people posting here that wouldn’t give up their rights in order to protect their own (grand)children.

I’m reminded of Jefferson quote but adjusted for them: The tree of the 2nd amendment must refreshed from time to time with the blood of children and murderers.

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

Hilarious but I believe something like this could work:

 

 

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

More laughing to keep from crying 

 

 

[4th&Five 41586]

 

[sidis 9832]

1 hour ago, Bullneck said:

It's hard not to take you to task when gun violence has touched (ever so lightly) your life but you still won't do anything about it.  Not event the minimum, which is vote.

Take a moment and realize most people don't look favorably on such laziness or bizarre ideology.   

He’s made plenty clear, plenty of times, all he needs to motivate support.

 

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

Part 2. Posting because he makes so much sense while being hilarious

 

 

[WhatTheBuck 28797]

9 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

SIAP:

 

Ogles is also one of those Republicans like Santos and Luna who lied about his credentials. He said he was an economist and majored in international studies. Neither is true.

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/businessman-economist-cop-international-sex-crimes-expert-the-stories-of-congressman-andy-ogles

[BevoAbyss 2078]

11 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

Excellent reference, my friend. I was just discussing the movie the other night and didn't reach this comparison. Compliments.

Thanks Roma. I appreciate that very much.

 

 

 

 

 

[Smax 3800]

Will anyone listen?

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

26 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Part 2. Posting because he makes so much sense while being hilarious

 

 

Fantastic 

[wild_turkey 3181]

I think our society has made it too easy to forget about these events. People think about it for a couple of days, but then the next news event hits and we move on to something else.

I’d like to see some sort of campaign to keep this in the forefront of peoples’ minds. Maybe put up billboards on major commutes that just keep a running tally of dead children in 2023 as a result of school shootings, with some line about “Your child’s school could be next.” That may be perceived as callous, but I think the message needs to be visible at all times so that people will be thinking about this when they vote.

[Nivek 16977]

17 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

any explanation except the truth

This is the (republican) Way.

[BevoAbyss 2078]

14 hours ago, BevoAbyss said:

A violent, militarized society, armed to the teeth, living in daily fear and existential dread — that's the MAGA-GQP goal.

There's a name for it from science-fiction: ultraviolence. Burgess and Kubrick warned us in A Clockwork Orange. “Ultraviolence” is the senseless, excessive, and wholly unjustified violence that terrorizes a neighborhood, a city, a society, a nation. It terrorizes all ages and demographic groups. Schools, night clubs, movie theaters, military bases, college campuses, grocery stores, fast food joints, and many other locations — all subject to senseless, random, bloody mass shootings. That's a society more likely submit to fascists and religious fanatics.

Ultraviolence. That's the MAGA-GQP plan for America. It's right before our eyes.

Mass shootings (enabled by gun worship) are not the only form of ultraviolence sanctioned by MAGA-GQP. Two other notable examples of MAGA-GQP ultraviolence:

— January 6. A near perfect example.

— Anti-mask, anti-vaxx movement. This is a more subtle form of ultraviolence. After all, anti-maskers/vaxxers were happy to go into public spaces and risk unleashing the deadly Covid virus on random citizens. Thus, causing/enabling the deaths of 1.1 million Americans, still 10x the death rate of the flu. If not for vaccines, the American death toll would have been many millions higher.

The dominant pillars of MAGA-GQP philosophy are: ultraviolence—anti-science/logic—fascism/racism—nationalism—theocracy. 

(Apologies if this veered a bit off the thread topic, but it fit with previous posts).

[Nice Guy Eddie 13521]

13 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:

I think our society has made it too easy to forget about these events. People think about it for a couple of days, but then the next news event hits and we move on to something else.

I’d like to see some sort of campaign to keep this in the forefront of peoples’ minds. Maybe put up billboards on major commutes that just keep a running tally of dead children in 2023 as a result of school shootings, with some line about “Your child’s school could be next.” That may be perceived as callous, but I think the message needs to be visible at all times so that people will be thinking about this when they vote.

Maybe but I worry now that most people are entrenched in their solution to the problem, or lack of solution. Many on the right will just reinforce their opinion that every good adult should be armed 24/7.

The billboard idea is interesting but I wouldn't intentionally want to scare kids about their safety in school even if the threat is real.

[Chuckie Finster 22724]

Wild to have Republicans spend years focusing on fucking DOORS as the key way to stop this shit, and then see the shooter instantly gain entrance by shooting through the closed glass door.  Galaxy brain argument.

[Fastbreak 3990]

Mass shootings (enabled by gun worship) are not the only form of ultraviolence sanctioned by MAGA-GQP. Two other notable examples of MAGA-GQP ultraviolence:
— January 6. A near perfect example.
— Anti-mask, anti-vaxx movement. This is a more subtle form of ultraviolence. After all, anti-maskers/vaxxers were happy to go into public spaces and risk unleashing the deadly Covid virus on random citizens. Thus, causing/enabling the deaths of 1.1 million Americans, still 10x the death rate of the flu. If not for vaccines, the American death toll would have been many millions higher.
The dominant pillars of MAGA-GQP philosophy are: ultraviolence—anti-science/logic—fascism/racism—nationalism—theocracy. 
(Apologies if this veered a bit off the thread topic, but it fit with previous posts).

I can’t phantom how even the most backwoods redneck can not see this shit.

Racism runs fucking deep…

[usmc0331horn 963]

I wonder why none of this abject violence is used to target people in positions of greater power like politicians and such like the old days. It's just easier to target the powerless?

[Chuckie Finster 22724]

Just now, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Maybe but I worry now that most people are entrenched in their solution to the problem, or lack of solution. Many on the right will just reinforce their opinion that every good adult should be armed 24/7.

The billboard idea is interesting but I wouldn't intentionally want to scare kids about their safety in school even if the threat is real.

I do think there's a small chance to shift public opinion if one of these parents one day decides to be a modern day Mamie Till and show the world, unedited, what these guns are doing to these kids... but that's not something that I necessarily want to witness nor would wish it upon anyone to have to make that choice.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Maybe but I worry now that most people are entrenched in their solution to the problem, or lack of solution. Many on the right will just reinforce their opinion that every good adult should be armed 24/7.
The billboard idea is interesting but I wouldn't intentionally want to scare kids about their safety in school even if the threat is real.

You may like this graffiti/street artist. His latest post on Instagram has a billboard he did. There was another guy that did a lot of this with him, but he passed away. However, take a look through his feed. Quite a lot of political activism or attempts to bring attention to these societal issues.

https://instagram.com/thisisindecline?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

His illegal billboard next to a pro-life billboard (he added the ironic line).

[Pancho 44962]

Wow

 

[yoladu 4094]

10 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

 

makes me sick to my stomach. Literally...

...get a physical knot i can feel.

[That Guy 959]

 

[henrygandorf 29194]

1 hour ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Part 2. Posting because he makes so much sense while being hilarious

 

 

i watch it every time there’s a mass shooting. had it memorized years ago. 

[jimmyjazz 46088]

Those cops obviously didn't train with the Uvalde team.

[El Tri 412]

12 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Not to be dark on an already exceptionally dark thread, but you already know the answer to this. To him and those like him, it would take just one more dead kid: theirs. Until it affects them personally, they will never, ever care enough.

even then, they wouldn't care. One of the Uvalde dad's of a murdered kid gave an interview with a hat that had an AR15 as the logo. these fuckers are deranged.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Gun nuts, I’m not talking folks who just go hunting (I realize there is quite a bit of overlap) are some broke brain motherfuckers. Honestly they are just garbage humans.

[Pig Bellmont 8720]

2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

We should enact laws to control, not eliminate, access but I’ve come to the conclusion that some care more about their rights than dead children.

Not to add to the despair but any meaningful legislation- even at the state level - will just get stricken down until at least two conservatives die on the Supreme Court and can actually be replaced by a Dem president 

[Underdog 28766]

12 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Not to be dark on an already exceptionally dark thread, but you already know the answer to this. To him and those like him, it would take just one more dead kid: theirs. Until it affects them personally, they will never, ever care enough.

Was going to tweet something similar but then realized that it wouldn't make one bit of difference to them.  Evil is evil. 

[Guest]

Officer Rex Engelbert seems to be exactly what you want a police officer to be. What a fucking bad-ass. Calm, assertive, seemingly clear thinking in an enormously stressful situation.

 

[YGIFS 19452]

Maybe this story will be the one to drive one of the uvalde cops to take the honorable way out and eat a bullet.  

That 35% of adults in this country think somebody would save up, buy the weapons and ammo, obtain floor plans, game out the logistics, and travel to the school all under a veil of secrecy, and get there and say to themselves, “oh the door is locked, guess I’ll just leave…hope sees me putting all this gear back in my trunk.  
 

it’s literally impossible some of you are this fucking stupid.  
 

I almost miss when the knee jerk initial reactions were Chicago, mental health, and lectures on what AR stands for.  Now your first fucking question outta the gate is “well what was the door situation at that school?”   
 

 

 

 

[jimmyjazz 46088]

3 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

Officer Rex Engelbert seems to be exactly what you want a police officer to be. What a fucking bad-ass. Calm, assertive, seemingly clear thinking in an enormously stressful situation.

And, he ran towards danger.  What a concept -- do what you signed up to do.

[Guest]

Also, kudos on Nashville PD for releasing the footage. Hopefully seeing some of these shooters slumped down after falling awkwardly from being killed will make the idea less appealing to their minds. I also couldn't help but notice a big blurred spot on the second officer's camera as they were running through the hall that was obviously a child wearing bright pink.

Good god, do something about this shit. 

Edited March 28, 2023 by FirstTimeCaller

[Deej 76897]

7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

And, he ran towards danger. 

His union is going to give him a good talking to 

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

My girls are 8 and 5 and are at the same school in the Cy-Fair district. Every time I go up to the school I have to be buzzed in, which gives me access to the front office. However, the exterior and interior doors are glass and the rest of the school is open concept. My youngest’s classroom is the first one passed the doors. This shit scares the shit out of me. Despite the raw gun violence statistics, they would be safer in a school in Brazil (if their gun violence statistics have to be explained to you like a 5 year old, then you should NOT own a gun, dipshit).

This is insanity.