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20 hours ago, Keyser Soze said:

Roland S Martin on racism and aggy...

https://youtu.be/2GgTl-YLT_0

Two things:

1) I wish someone would tell individuals such as Roland that when calling out others, facts matter. Even Roland was utterly clueless as to who Sul Ross was. No, Roland, it is not a fact that Ross was the school's first president. Ross was the eighth individual named president of the school, the seventh to serve in the position. Ross' significance was being the first school president to serve more than four years in the position, thus providing continuity in leadership that allowed affairs at the school to finally be made orderly.

The problems at A&M stemmed from either a) the fact Texans did not fully support Texas A&M because it was a federal (1862 Morrill Act) construct forced upon the state during Reconstruction and not "of, by and for the people of Texas" as was the state's beloved namesake University of Texas, or b) that A&M has "traditionally" suffered from abysmal leadership.

Eight individuals named as school president in the school's first 14 years created operational chaos. An entirely self-inflicted crisis. As stated in the press of the day when Ross was named to lead the school, "a reference to the legislation of the past few years will show it has been liberally if not munificently supported by appropriations from the university...Students were discouraged and left by the score, professors were dissatisfied, the faculty was rent into factions, discipline was lacking, scandals were rife and serious trouble apprehended." Source: The Galveston Daily News, July 12, 1890. The school, technically the agricultural branch college of The University of Texas, was already "liberally" funded by its federal endowment; through the University endowment; and by legislative appropriations.The problems at A&M when Ross took over had absolutely nothing to do with "wealthy real estate developers in Austin trying to shut it down" as disingenuously claimed by John Sharp. Texas A&M at the time had nothing to entice any real estate developers. It was a backwater shithole of a train stop where no one willingly chose to settle. The location was a hindrance to the institution, not a location coveted by "wealthy real estate developers in Austin." Here, John Sharp is being intentionally dishonest. Despicably, and predictably, Sharp is lying through his teeth.

2) I'm watching how John Sharp and his "historians" dance around the truth about Ross.

That "A&M and PV wouldn't exist today without Ross" is completely specious. There is no way of knowing what might or might not have happened. Had Ross not been A&M's president, it is entirely plausible A&M could have had a less racist leader in Ross' place and that today the school could very possibly have been a far better, and far less racist, institution. Don't forget that we have the text of Prof. William Stuart Lorraine Bringhurst's speech to the students on Dec 1899 (during the Jefferson Davis' memorial service held on campus) railing against "the abomination of African citizenship." Bringhurst was school president immediately before Ross. So, if Ross "saved" Texas A&M, did he truthfully do any service to the people of Texas in doing so, or did he merely perpetuate and enhance the virulent racism bring spewed at the A&M students, thus ensuring A&M would remain a virulently racist institution well into the 20th century? (which is exactly what happened)

Sadly, what Ross oversaw at PV was Black students not being offered opportunities for advancements in the educated, professional ranks. Blacks wanted a "high" education in law, medicine, theology, or literature. Offering Blacks such meaningful opportunities at economic advancement would have created competition for whites wanting the same opportunities. What Ross did was ensure a "low" education was offered at PV in menial, industrial skills such as carpentry, shoemaking and brick laying. Under Ross, Blacks were intentionally denied meaningful educational opportunities. What Ross did was help ensure opportunities for economic mobility were denied Blacks in Texas for generations to come. Supporters of Ross point to his efforts at A&M to strengthen military education and his having established various organizations and traditions. Why were none of these "vital elements" not also created at Prairie View? Answer - Brig Gen. Lawrence Sullivan Ross, CSA (Ret).

No, there is no evidence of Ross' membership in the Klan (referred to in the papers of the time as "the kuklux"). Ross didn't have to get his hands bloodied to assist in the rampant systemic terrorism, murder and apartheid that defined Texas while Ross was governor. By ensuring law enforcement and the courts were corrupt, Ross had far more power to influence events than if he had personally participated in the racial atrocities. There is extensive evidence of Ross' heinous acts while governor. Example: Sharp and the ags bleat how after Ross intervened in the Jaybird-Woodpecker War about two dozen Texans were arrested and tried for murder and other atrocities. The aggy "historians" end the story there. What I believe they purposely leave out is that of the 20-some individuals arrested, not one was convicted. Not one. Why not? The courts were full of corrupt, racist judges. Who was the one individual on the planet with the greatest ability to rectify that situation? - Brig Gen. Lawrence Sullivan Ross, CSA (Ret).

As for Blacks (such as Blackshear) lauding Ross after his death, the context of Blacks lauding their white overlords (at least in public) in the late 1890s as a tactic to somehow glean crumbs for Blacks is a subject for another day. In short - if the whites (unquestionably with the acquiescence of state authorities all the way to the governor) were dousing Blacks with kerosene and setting them alight, or hanging Blacks from trees - with complete impunity - wouldn't you reasonably expect at least some Blacks to at least publicly "make nice" and not be openly antagonistic? When Blackshear (a Black Democrat) was named to lead PV, the Galveston News doubted whether he had the "broadmindedness" to successfully run PV. The paper further stated "it is demoralizing to our free institutions and discouraging to true merit and manly courage when they are pushed aside for political preference." As one author wrote "Although Blackshear was a strong man with a silver tounge, he had some talent for making enemies. Black Republican leadership saw him as a "tool" of the Democrats." Source: https://archive.org/details/prairieviewstudy00wool/page/122/mode/2up?q=prairie+view+normal+texas+report

It is worth noting the 1889 U.S. Senate report on outrages and atrocities in Texas detailed horrific problems specifically in Waller and Washington counties. Who thinks these practices were happening in Waller and Washington counties with regularity, but weren't happening also in Brazos County with equal regularity? Don't kid yourself.

How does all this affect Texas A&M today? The indoctrination given at aggy "Fish Camp" is specifically designed to perpetuate the "whitewashing" (pun intended) of aggy history. The embarrassments of aggy school history are intentionally neglected and, in their place, deliberate falsehoods are perpetuated (such as Sul Ross "saving A&M/PV from greedy developers in Austin" or that Ross was "the Black man's best friend"). Ignorant aggys lap this racist drivel up like hungry kittens. Just another example of systemic and inter-generational racism on the Texas A&M campus.

aggy history is rife with racist pieces of shit. How else did Texas A&M ("aggyland") reportedly get to be called "Crackerland" in academic circles well beyond the borders of Texas?

Want to know another real piece of shit from that era? Henry Hill Harrington, Texas A&M school president from 1905-1908. His bona fides for the aggy Racist Hall of Shame? He was Sul Ross' son-in-law.

Bottom line:

The people of Texas deserve better than Texas A&M.

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As explained by Sam McMillan, Texas A&M Class of 1909, the term "aggie" was used by engineering students on the Texas A&M campus starting in the early 1900s to mock and ridicule those who were struggling academically and who were "of the lower tier." Later in life, students of those years considered the use of the term term "aggie" a "regrettable tradition" whose use hurt the school's reputation.

https://aggypedia.com/wiki/Aggy_turditions

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1 hour ago, Randolph Duke said:

As explained by Sam McMillan, Texas A&M Class of 1909, the term "aggie" was used by engineering students on the Texas A&M campus starting in the early 1900s to mock and ridicule those who were struggling academically and who were "of the lower tier." Later in life, students of those years considered the use of the term term "aggie" a "regrettable tradition" whose use hurt the school's reputation.

https://aggypedia.com/wiki/Aggy_turditions

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so pretty much the same as it is now

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On 7/12/2020 at 9:55 PM, 6th Street said:

Apparently some old lady grabbed that Aggy football player's dick

https://twitter.com/BrentZwerneman/status/1282457264339787777?s=20

Man, there's a lot of pearl clutching in that thread. Oh my! His language! He's flattering himself! Such a poor representative of A&M! He hates A&M!

Maroon Lives Matter! You can just hear an Aggie explain this with the fake sincerity with which they defend all of their offensive acts?

You see, at Texas A&M University, we don't believe in race or color. We see everyone as maroon and an Aggie. Aggies all pull together and support each other. It's one of our traditions, and we love our traditions. Other people visit and love our traditions, too!

So, when someone doesn't pull together and love Aggieland, we know that nig...uh...person isn't a real Aggie. So we don't like the protesters (they're actually thuggish rioters) attacking our traditions. These protesters hate Aggies. They aren't really Maroon. That's the only color we see. They should go if they don't like our traditions. We say that lovingly.

Now, I'll explain squeeze Aggies. You see, we feel we must share the pain of the team to help them to victory.........

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Once again, the aggy jokes just write themselves.

The ags are crying over the Roland Martin diatribe from a few nights ago. Martin wants the "gallant negro killer" statue removed. Let's not forget, Ross fought to keep men like Martin from obtaining an education.

One individual (no comment on the screen name, at least for now) posted this.

Only at Texas A&M could someone wanting to preserve a statue of a white man who fought to keep Blacks from ever obtaining an education lecture a Black professional, reminding him "good men fought for your right to learn your profession."

Simply amazing.

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Turn in your Aggie Ring, Roland.

Good men fought for your right to learn your profession. They didn't die for you to watch your country burn.
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The problems at A&M when Ross took over had absolutely nothing to do with "wealthy real estate developers in Austin trying to shut it down" as disingenuously claimed by John Sharp.

Wealthy real estate developers in Austin in 1890? Austin had about 14,000 people in it back then. How wealthy could they be?

Granted there was plenty of real estate to be developed around here at the time.

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5 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Wealthy real estate developers in Austin in 1890? Austin had about 14,000 people in it back then. How wealthy could they be?

Granted there was plenty of real estate to be developed around here at the time.

There was no plan to abandon the land A&M was on that I have seen even alluded to. The plan was to cut expenses to the taxpayer by moving the agricultural branch college to the main campus (as they did at LSU), and then either use the land A&M was on for Prairie View, or for a lunatic asylum.

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2 minutes ago, Randolph Duke said:

There was no plan to abandon the land A&M was on that I have seen even alluded to. The plan was to cut expenses to the taxpayer by moving the agricultural branch college to the main campus (as they did at LSU), and then either use the land A&M was on for Prairie View, or for a lunatic asylum.

Obviously, the lunatic asylum won out.

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1 hour ago, Valmy77 said:

Wealthy real estate developers in Austin in 1890? Austin had about 14,000 people in it back then. How wealthy could they be?

Granted there was plenty of real estate to be developed around here at the time.

@Armybrat had just retired from teaching at that time. He should have been more prescient in his land acquisition. 

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With the new SEZ project, and removing sections on both E/W sides of the South End of the original stadium, I’d LOVE it if the new publicly announced capacity was 1-5 seats more than Pyle Field. I know that the new project will only add a few, if any, to the original capacity, but I can only imagine them out there re-striping some bench rows to “increase” their capacity within a week!

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7 minutes ago, sdm said:

Right in the middle of prohibition. Hey Armybrat, did Mombrat tell you where college kids provisioned their booze back in her day?

Everybody knew somebody who had a “source”, just like druggies do today.

My grandpa had his own amateur still.. for his private consumption.

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I'm concerned that Texags had to ask for and receive a federal bailout this past spring. Should we play nice and help them out by starting a GoFundMe campaign for "Bailout Billy," Olin and friends?

Maybe a canned food drive?

Anyone have some old clothes they could drop off at the front door of Texags' offices?

Can someone drop by the A&M campus, grab the pennies from the feet of their shrine to "the gallant negro killer" and give them to the Texags crew?

Interest free "loan" from the academic side at A&M?

We all knew it was just a matter of time until that business model built on pandering to poorly educated, idiot rednecks would collapse. It looks like a contribution as small as $3.04 could help them a lot.

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7 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Why would an online message board business need bailout money?

I think we all understand they saw an opportunist to screw over the taxpayers by fraudulently misrepresenting their financial situation (under penalty of perjury) and they took it.

But remember, aggys don't lie, cheat, or steal.

Feel free to prove me wrong, "Bailout Billy."

The people of Texas deserve better than Texas A&M.

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