Tell Me About Texas a&m

[Lou_Sassle 2910]

24 minutes ago, nnm said:

Yeah, but that’s like 1st place in any other conference, so ….

Except the acc.... or the sbc.

[RomaVicta 30039]

8 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

Frankly, If I was an aggy big doner, I would be thinking about ways of paying like 4 or 5 high end escorts to entrap Jimbo in some sort of compromising position/ scandal/ etc so that you have a chance to enact the morality clause to save yourself $70m in buyout.   probably could do it for less than $500k

They can't afford the kind of high-end escort Jimbo can. He'd sniff out the ruse in a minute.

He has all their money. And the Aggie braintrust would fuck it up anyway. After all, they're the morons who ponied up in the first place.

I wonder what the penalty would be if the Aggies got caught trying to entrap Jimbo in order to invalidate the contract. Maybe it's some kind of conspiracy related to fraud? 

Aggie BMDs after fumbling frame job: 

 

[RomaVicta 30039]

1 hour ago, Longboard Horn said:

aggy is last place in the SEC 

Last in SEC? No no no no no.

The Aggies are tied with Alabama and LSU in the SEC West!  Their goal all along!

SUCCESS!

[Laga4 1270]

5 hours ago, Grade of D as in David said:

Jimbo might need to worry if they move the spring game to Qatar.

He should fit right in he already speaks Arabic. 

[NoName 16423]

13 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

 

oh, that's all. "fix the defense"

from an unadjusted standpoint their defense is in the 80s for opponent drive efficiency, points per drive, avaliable yards given up and points per play. they are slightly better from an adjusted sttandpoint on some things but they are flat out terrible right now with creating turnovers, they are 79th in giving up TDs, 67th when it comes to giving up drives and 43 on creating busted drives.

comes out to the #45 DFEI team so far.

good luck.

 

 

[NoName 16423]

10 hours ago, YGIFS said:

I just found a shirt earlier this summer that I apparently, according to my wife, paid $15 for after the 2006 Rose Bowl.  It had "USC National Champions"on it with both our helmet logos and the date.  Obviously one of those they work up for both teams and this street vendor got ahold of a box of 'em before the rest headed to LAX to be shipped overseas.  I had a few laughs and then put in a box with some other shit we donated to goodwill with some stuff the kids have outgrown.  

But that moment a few weeks ago and this thread gave me an idea.  Through our church or some other non-profit, I want to make a run of like 100 shirts, nothing crazy.  And they say "Texas A&M:  2024 National Champions." with all the logos and trappings and color schemes and CFP trophy shit.  And have them shipped directly to some missionary village in South America or Africa.  And have photographs taken of kids wearing the shirts.  And then send them to every single Aggie I know, and every single member of their Athletic Dept. and System offices. 

They're notorious about claiming fake dates for titles.  But this is from "the future."  But it may also suggest to them, they played for the national title but didn't win it, hence the excess shirts getting sent overseas.  But maybe, there's some Aggie chapter tradition in Ecuador or Swaziland where they get the shirts early to throw out good vibes for the season.  I don't know exactly how it goes.  Sometimes the slow kid at the end of the lunch table just wants to be in on the joke, and you get enough of them together and they form a tradition called Aggieland.  

let's take it one step further: fly to Doha, hand them out to students at Texas A&M at Qatar, take pics, ???, profit.

[South Austin 52660]

4 minutes ago, NoName said:

from an unadjusted standpoint their defense is in the 80s for opponent drive efficiency, points per drive, avaliable yards given up and points per play. they are slightly better from an adjusted sttandpoint on some things but they are flat out terrible right now with creating turnovers, they are 79th in giving up TDs, 67th when it comes to giving up drives and 43 on creating busted drives.

comes out to the #45 DFEI team so far.

[Handcruser 2805]

So is the offense so far jimbos or is it Petrinos? I haven’t seen much of their games - so I’m curious.

[ElChupacabra 254]

9 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

So is the offense so far jimbos or is it Petrinos? I haven’t seen much of their games - so I’m curious.

Both. When a play works it's Jimbo's offense. When a play fails it's Petrino's offense. 

[Js1 85651]

9 hours ago, OU Sucks said:

Yup, that's exactly how that will go. You can bet some aggy will say "why couldn't Milroe pass like this against Texas?", with no mention of the pressure we put on him or any other contributing factors.

Also because Texas actually fields linebackers and DBs. Not just mannequins pretending to be defensive players. 

[Js1 85651]

8 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

Both. When a play works it's Jimbo's offense. When a play fails it's Petrino's offense. 

We laugh, but how many did the same for us last year? Good defense = Patterson. Bad defense = PK

[closetohumping 17491]

[Tex Pete 20580]

7 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

They should take another shot at it. I bet Jimbo would sign for 15 years $150 million today.

Hell, he’d probably even sign for 15 years and $200 million. Sharp should make the pitch. 

[Post Oak 20310]

Listening to the Ticket Hardline podcast and Bob Sturm said hes gone after this year.  They asked him how much is the buyout and he said it wasn't that much. They can pay it.  

Dork.

[Teebox 89]

5 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Listening to the Ticket Hardline podcast and Bob Sturm said hes gone after this year.  They asked him how much is the buyout and he said it wasn't that much. They can pay it.  

Dork.

Bob Sturm knows less about Jimbo's future than your average Texags poster.  

[Js1 85651]

3 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Listening to the Ticket Hardline podcast and Bob Sturm said hes gone after this year.  They asked him how much is the buyout and he said it wasn't that much. They can pay it.  

Dork.

If Texas rolls into the playoffs in Sark's third year a year prior to heading to the SEC and playing aggy again every year, on the heels of beating Bama at home, and aggy finishes 8-4 or worse in Jimbo's 6th year, combined with a top 3 class if we close on Baker, Wingo and Black, they will pay him to go away. No hesitation. 

Their delusional BMDs will not allow themselves to feel like they're going to fall behind us (once again, as always) when we are in the same conference.  They will pay the money, go on a big national search and find that they lucked into hiring Jimbo in the first place because FSU wanted him gone and it is unlikely a similar situation will occur (a NC winning coach who their current program wants gone as the house of cards starts to crumble). 

[Sir Ulrich 5191]

12 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Listening to the Ticket Hardline podcast and Bob Sturm said hes gone after this year.  They asked him how much is the buyout and he said it wasn't that much. They can pay it.  

Dork.

Technically it's only $21 million now and $7.1 million every year (based on last years numbers). So it's cheaper now tham the full $75 but is any other attainable coach worth $25-30 million with buyouts and $15 million per year not including assistants? 

My dream is that they pull the trigger strike out on every name out there and then hire Mark Stoops on a 7 year $50 million deal. 

[Sir Ulrich 5191]

9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

If Texas rolls into the playoffs in Sark's third year a year prior to heading to the SEC and playing aggy again every year, on the heels of beating Bama at home, and aggy finishes 8-4 or worse in Jimbo's 6th year, combined with a top 3 class if we close on Baker, Wingo and Black, they will pay him to go away. No hesitation. 

Their delusional BMDs will not allow themselves to feel like they're going to fall behind us (once again, as always) when we are in the same conference.  They will pay the money, go on a big national search and find that they lucked into hiring Jimbo in the first place because FSU wanted him gone and it is unlikely a similar situation will occur (a NC winning coach who their current program wants gone as the house of cards starts to crumble). 

They're backed into a corner to keep him until next year. Money owed and realistic candidates aside they can't risk hiring a dud and having a mass exodus before our first game there in a decade. 49-0 against OU was glorious but 49-0 in College Station would burn the city to the ground. 

[Orange&White 5539]

9 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

Technically it's only $21 million now and $7.1 million every year (based on last years numbers). So it's cheaper now tham the full $75 but is any other attainable coach worth $25-30 million with buyouts and $15 million per year not including assistants? 

My dream is that they pull the trigger strike out on every name out there and then hire Mark Stoops on a 7 year $50 million deal. 

I am pretty sure this is not accurate. It's like $78M now and goes down by $9.5M per year.

[RomaVicta 30039]

3 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

They're backed into a corner to keep him until next year. Money owed and realistic candidates aside they can't risk hiring a dud and having a mass exodus before our first game there in a decade. 49-0 against OU was glorious but 49-0 in College Station would burn the city to the ground. 

Except we're not really very good. Turns out that the Alabama team that was going to come in furious and welcome us to the SEC like an embezzler gets welcomed to a penetentiary turns out to be not so good themselves and likely an easy W for the Ags. Just start with the Aggie assumption that the Longhorns are always soft and bad, and you can see the (Aggie) logic in it.

It may be worth it to the Aggie ego to pay Jimbo to leave so they can get back to their usual routine in finding excuses for their shittiness: hiring a new coach; bare cupboard; installing a new system; ridding themselves of the rot that the previous administration allowed to accumulate.

But, next year! Hoooo boy, will we be good! Whoop!

 

[Redneck Mutha 8022]

25% of the contract is due within 60 days of firing him (l-o-fucking-l).  Then the rest is paid out over the remaining years of the contract.  

So right now I think that works out to about $20M within 60 days of firing and then just over $7M per year until the end.

[Sir Ulrich 5191]

6 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

I am pretty sure this is not accurate. It's like $78M now and goes down by $9.5M per year.

25% due up front and the rest paid out annually until 2031. 

This is from the original so I'd expect the extension to be similar. 

[NoName 16423]

5 minutes ago, Redneck Mutha said:

25% of the contract is due within 60 days of firing him (l-o-fucking-l).  Then the rest is paid out over the remaining years of the contract.  

So right now I think that works out to about $20M within 60 days of firing and then just over $7M per year until the end.

to be fair, that's much better than their last coach contract - Sumlin had to be paid 100% of what he was owed within SIXTY DAYS. and there was no offset language in the contract lol

Sumlin was fired 11/26/17 and hired 1/14/18 by Arizona, 49 days after being fired from A&M.

Edited September 13, 2023 by NoName

[DaysOff 7988]

I should be a football coach/Cat reading paper

[Redneck Mutha 8022]

22 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

They're backed into a corner to keep him until next year. 

There's one path out of that corner

[Orange&White 5539]

10 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

25% due up front and the rest paid out annually until 2031. 

This is from the original so I'd expect the extension to be similar. 

OK, I was mis-reading your post. I thought you were saying the total payout was only $21M. Now I see you were talking about only what was due right now.

[statsman 5488]

I figure the Ags will finish 7-5, with losses to Bama, Tennessee, Ol Miss and LSU. Would that be enough to make a change (and I agree that a big season from Texas would affect the decision)?

Would they be smart enough to figure out that they need to change their decision-makers first?

Edited September 13, 2023 by statsman

[Pancho 45181]

Some of y’all are trying to tell them what they are doing wrong then give them help on how to fix it.

What agricultural &mechanical did in the past, is currently doing, and will do in the future is fine. Keep being you aggy! Don’t listen to the haters!

😎

[NOMAAA 1696]

17 minutes ago, statsman said:

I figure the Ags will finish 7-5, with losses to Bama, Tennessee, Ol Miss and LSU. Would that be enough to make a change (and I agree that a big season from Texas would affect the decision)?

Would they be smart enough to figure out that they need to change their decision-makers first?

thats funny.  i got them going 5-7 and maybe a whole lot of give up gets them a loss to ACU.

[NeverMarryAStripper 21997]

If they fire Jimbo after this season, they would owe him $19.2 million within 60 days and $7.2 million annually through 2031.  Any coach they hire will probably have a buyout they will need to fund.  Let's say that's maybe $5 million.  Then, they will have to pay the new coach maybe $9 million annually.  So that will end up being around $24.2 million immediately and a $16.2 million payout annually.  That's a big load of jizz to swallow, even for aggy.

Edited September 13, 2023 by NeverMarryAStripper

[jimmyjazz 46351]

$21M now and $7M per for 7-8 years is do-able, even for those dorks.  That's the problem with so much oil in Texas.

EDIT:  NMAS's point hit when mine did, and it defiitely makes things tougher.  I still think they can do it.

Edited September 13, 2023 by jimmyjazz

[C-Man 27293]

1 hour ago, Post Oak said:

Listening to the Ticket Hardline podcast and Bob Sturm said hes gone after this year.  They asked him how much is the buyout and he said it wasn't that much. They can pay it.  

Dork.

IIRC, Bob said aggy donors could "fart" the buyout money if they needed to. He's convinced Jimbo is gone this year if they're 7-5 or worse. I think aggy Sturm thinks aggy athletic department is a lot more flush than it is.

[TotallyLegit 3053]

1 hour ago, Redneck Mutha said:

There's one path out of that corner

It'd be quite the twist if Petrino were to be the bad influence to get Jimbo fired for cause

[TrashMaster G 17664]

3 hours ago, ElChupacabra said:

Both. When a play works it's Jimbo's offense. When a play fails it's Petrino's offense. 

[markstanco 12640]

1 hour ago, Sir Ulrich said:

25% due up front and the rest paid out annually until 2031. 

 

Oh a payment plan?  That isnt nearly as bad as owing him 76mm.

~aggy economists

[royiv 9402]

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

 (a NC winning coach who their current program wants gone as the house of cards starts to crumble). 

Mack Brown

[Pig Bellmont 8744]

2 hours ago, Sir Ulrich said:

49-0 against OU was glorious but 49-0 in College Station would burn the city to the ground. 

Why? They should be used to losing to us in College Station

[TrashMaster G 17664]

4 minutes ago, markstanco said:

Oh a payment plan?  That isnt nearly as bad as owing him 76mm.

~aggy economists

If you assume a 5% discount rate and 7 years of future payments, the NPV is about $61.5 million.

I'm sure they have that lying around somewhere.

[closetojumping 62918]

34 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

If they fire Jimbo after this season, they would owe him $19.2 million within 60 days and $7.2 million annually through 2031.  Any coach they hire will probably have a buyout they will need to fund.  Let's say that's maybe $5 million.  Then, they will have to pay the new coach maybe $9 million annually.  So that will end up being around $24.2 million immediately and a $16.2 million payout annually.  That's a big load of jizz to swallow, even for aggy.

 

33 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

$21M now and $7M per for 7-8 years is do-able, even for those dorks.  That's the problem with so much oil in Texas.

EDIT:  NMAS's point hit when mine did, and it defiitely makes things tougher.  I still think they can do it.

 

There are a few other expense factors that need to be accounted for in some capacity. 

1) The assistants all have buyouts.

2) Buying out and hiring assistants from elsewhere requires money as well.

3) They have a payroll to meet with the roster.

4) They'll have a payroll to meet if they want to win in the portal.

5) They have a payroll to meet with their recruiting class.

That all adds up to another 8 digits.

I know the roster expense is over $4M, so if they want to retain a bunch of those guys, they'll need that.

If new coach is to win in the portal, he's going to need $2M+ given expected attrition.

They've got at least mid-6 figures committed to this current recruiting class. 

Petrino's buyout alone is likely easily into the 7 figures since he was a moneywhip hire in the first place.

ATM is going to need $40M minimum from its donor base to cover the full freight of all of the moving parts for firing Fisher if it happens after 2023. If they don't, next year's roster will look like something akin to the SMU post-death penalty rebuild.

On top of all of this, who the hell is going to want to come to that school at this point? It looks freaking cursed. They'd need someone trying to pull a Fisher and get out of a big job before the big job pushes them out violently, or they'd need to take a bet on an up and comer. So they won't be able to argue about a sure thing with the BMDs. Part of the support in getting Fisher and in funding the 2022 class was that the BMDs believed that the guy was a sure thing for a national title.

 

[Vic Mackey 47189]

Last in SEC? No no no no no.
The Aggies are tied with Alabama and LSU in the SEC West!  Their goal all along!
SUCCESS!

What goes through your head to record something as dorky as this? Lol

[jimmyjazz 46351]

7 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

What goes through your head to record something as dorky as this? Lol

 

[Orange&White 5539]

Don't forget that firing him is not just a hit on the expense side. It will hammer the income side as well. 

When they fire fisher and start the rebuild, that newly expanded stadium will be at 50% capacity and no one will be buying the $16 "Beat LSU" souvenir cups and $30 "We Control the Tide" t shirts.

[C-Man 27293]

55 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

If they fire Jimbo after this season, they would owe him $19.2 million within 60 days and $7.2 million annually through 2031.  Any coach they hire will probably have a buyout they will need to fund.  Let's say that's maybe $5 million.  Then, they will have to pay the new coach maybe $9 million annually.  So that will end up being around $24.2 million immediately and a $16.2 million payout annually.  That's a big load of jizz to swallow, even for aggy.

My albeit-weak math skills calculate the above info into aggy owing Jimbo $76.2M if they were to fire him this season.

[Fug 541]

14 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 

 

There are a few other expense factors that need to be accounted for in some capacity. 

1) The assistants all have buyouts.

2) Buying out and hiring assistants from elsewhere requires money as well.

3) They have a payroll to meet with the roster.

4) They'll have a payroll to meet if they want to win in the portal.

5) They have a payroll to meet with their recruiting class.

That all adds up to another 8 digits.

I know the roster expense is over $4M, so if they want to retain a bunch of those guys, they'll need that.

If new coach is to win in the portal, he's going to need $2M+ given expected attrition.

They've got at least mid-6 figures committed to this current recruiting class. 

Petrino's buyout alone is likely easily into the 7 figures since he was a moneywhip hire in the first place.

ATM is going to need $40M minimum from its donor base to cover the full freight of all of the moving parts for firing Fisher if it happens after 2023. If they don't, next year's roster will look like something akin to the SMU post-death penalty rebuild.

On top of all of this, who the hell is going to want to come to that school at this point? It looks freaking cursed. They'd need someone trying to pull a Fisher and get out of a big job before the big job pushes them out violently, or they'd need to take a bet on an up and comer. So they won't be able to argue about a sure thing with the BMDs. Part of the support in getting Fisher and in funding the 2022 class was that the BMDs believed that the guy was a sure thing for a national title.

 

Weirdly sounds like the perfect spot for Dabo… go from a jimbo to a Dabo

[MH BEVO 1265]

15 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 BMDs believed that the guy was a sure thing for a national title.

I’ve talked to a couple of guys (not BMDs) that believed this as well.

“I mean wouldn’t you dish out the cash for a sure thing”

my favorite part is now everyone points to them as evidence that you can’t buy a championship. 

[Aqua Buddha 14636]

We don't want Aggy and Jimbo to completely crater.  They might actually find a way to fire him.  We need him to churn every year with 7 wins or something and be there the duration of the contract.  A plus would be him pulling and upset against Bama or Georgia one random years and them giving him five more years.

[txhorns 2413]

aggy will have more trouble than they think getting the cash for all of this from their donors.  It’s hard to sell donors on another big money deal right after the last big money sure thing deal failed miserably.  I would imagine at least some of those donors won’t be willing to go all in a second time.

[ousux 5602]

thats funny.  i got them going 5-7 and maybe a whole lot of give up gets them a loss to ACU.

All the NFL prospects (even borderline) sit that one out knowing nobody will be watching anyway.

[ousux 5602]

Oh a payment plan?  That isnt nearly as bad as owing him 76mm.
~aggy economists

I'm sure the numbers have been sent to the aggy math department. The entire semester will be dedicated to finding virtual lube so it doesn't hurt too much.

[Aqua Buddha 14636]

Didn't realize how backloaded their schedule is.  They'll win the next two (ULM and Barn) but then it's Arky, why they usually beat but shouldn't.  If they lose to the pigs, then it's Bama, Tenner, S'Carolina, and Ole Miss all in a row.  Might be some quit with the next two (ACU and MS State) and then LSU at the end.

6-7 losses isn't out of the question, especially if the lose to Arky.