Tell Me About Texas a&m

[Huckleberry 33095]

3 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Elko has a solid reputation throughout college football and I generally trust the good things players/analysts say about him.  But not an ideal situation to come back to CS as a bandaid to "beat Texas" next year and keep their prized recruiting class together. If they have a leash on Elko they're not gonna get the most out of him. 

We had to roam the desert for over a decade to get the culture/program back on track.  A&M has similar institutional hurdles. They got burned by giving Jimbo all the power, but the reality is they still need a HC that can build it his way. 

He may end up being a good head coach. He is definitely a good defensive coordinator but has seemed a little overwhelmed as a head coach, and that was at a place with zero pressure on the head coach. 

[Tex Pete 20464]

Wally Groff is just waiting to be called back up. 

[orangebird 1079]

5 minutes ago, coachherman'sgrill said:

I would assume the BOR would have to say, we need to stop the bleeding and stabilize the program, so let's keep Bjork for the time being.

But that's a terrible assumption on my part and I am starting the rumor that the BOR got CDC but CDC can't talk right now because he is busy packing. 

They could just keep Bjork as athletic director "in name only".  His only responsibility going forward is to get the BOR members coffee and shine their shoes.  The BOR will have direct control over the athletic department without the pretense of a middleman.

Sure, it's a terrible idea, but as we've seen this weekend, there is no shortage of terrible ideas emanating from Collie Station.

Edited November 27, 2023 by orangebird

[Lidig8r 1874]

5 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:

More likely that Saudi sports money guy and the Buc-ee’s dude. Whoop!

regarding aggy, past failures HAVE dictated future failures ... for the past 84 years.

[orangebird 1079]

5 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

He may end up being a good head coach. He is definitely a good defensive coordinator but has seemed a little overwhelmed as a head coach, and that was at a place with zero pressure on the head coach. 

Perhaps.  I concur that we underestimate him at our own peril.

That said, it's notable that he couldn't really beat anybody with a pulse while at Duke.

[Longboard Horn 40507]

9 minutes ago, orangebird said:

10 years ago when we hired Chuck F'n Strong, this hire might have scared me.  A little.  Only because I see Elko at about the same level as Strong, so a hypothetical UT-aggy would probably be a tossup.

But the way Sark has things rolling now?

Naaaah.

Oh lord a Charlie Strong Texas team vs a Mike Elko aggy team...

[Chopper 17245]

Is Elko happy? Of course he is. He gets to at minimum double his current salary, add HC to his career achievements, and amazingly have fewer job responsibilities than he did at Duke.

This take by the sports columnist for SEC sports at USA Today is hilarious.

"Good thing Texas A&M applied to its safety school.

The Aggies didn't have the credentials to earn admission to Stanford or Cal-Berkeley, so it's off to Sacramento State, the commuter school that granted admission the moment it received the application.

That’s how I view the Aggies’ reported plans to hire Duke’s Mike Elko to replace the fired Jimbo Fisher.

All along, Elko profiled as the Aggies’ obvious fallback plan if the search didn’t produce a big fish.

Texas A&M paid a $77 million buyout to rectify its Fisher mistake and hire the guy who used to be Fisher’s wingman.

You could convince me that Michigan State made a better hire by nabbing Oregon State’s Jonathan Smith. You could convince me Texas A&M made off better with Elko.

But that’s sort of the point, isn’t it?

Texas A&M settling for Elko is a humbling reminder that, despite all of its resources, it’s closer to being Michigan State than Michigan."

 

 

[Longboard Horn 40507]

8 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Yakety Sax would be great as their new entrance music. 

bennyhillthis.com

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11 minutes ago, orangebird said:

They could just keep Bjork as athletic director "in name only".  His only responsibility going forward is to get the BOR members coffee and shine their shoes.  The BOR will have direct control over the athletic department without the pretense of a middleman.

I know who they need to hire

[Beau Vine 54424]

46 minutes ago, Blotto said:

The coaster is out of the shop, and the rubes are getting in line...

Look for Elko to bring in Warren Buffet and Charlie Munger as coordinators.

Hold the phone..."the greatest one-year turnaround in FBS history?"  Lulz.   Is it even in the top 20 of that?   

June Jones at Hawaii has to be #1, and DeBoer at UDub has to be in the mix, Charlie Pell, Stoops?

 

[texasdago 7579]

Man that's a great article by USA Today and it explains it perfectly although he should have just said "Texas A&M shows it's exactly who we thought it was and not Texas"

It is a boring, lame hire.  As others have said, averaged 8 wins a year... 8-8 in conference... a record mostly built on wins against piss poor teams. 

Year 1: 9-4

Year 2: 7-5 and 4-4 in conference including a loss to Virginia (!?)

He's perfect.

[Beau Vine 54424]

29 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

The thing is…Elko may end up being a pretty good HC but he was like their at least third or so choice. He’s, to them, like the last chick at the bar still making eye contact when it’s last call. They don’t fully appreciate that he actually came back knowing what they expect and how their culture is. He could be an actual gem but they wanted DeBoer who stiff armed them. Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me if they’d sent a random Uber to pick him up. 

You'd think that of all people, aggy would know to go ugly early.

[Dennis Taylor 18867]

10 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Why in the ever living fuck would he do this?  Dude is set for life as are his next like 4 generations. Go enjoy it man. Jeez. 

That's some jabroni with 800 followers, he's trolling or talking out his ass

[Blotto 23574]

3 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Hold the phone..."the greatest one-year turnaround in FBS history?"  Lulz.   Is it even in the top 20 of that?   

June Jones at Hawaii has to be #1, and DeBoer at UDub has to be in the mix, Charlie Pell, Stoops?

 

Yeah, I checked Jones first season at Hawaii as that was the first thing that came to mind (0 wins to 9-4). Just another aggy who doesnt know his ass from a hole in the stall. 

[atomheartbevo 89791]

1 hour ago, alincoln said:

Elko obviously doesn't scare anyone.  Coaching hires are always a crapshoot and he could ultimately be successful but the general reaction to this hire, including the aggy reaction, should be meh.  

1 hour ago, Tex Pete said:

Bwahahahahahahaha! Fucked up absolutely  everything about the Jimbo Fisher era from hiring to replacement and now need to sneak a guy in during the dead of night in order to not get even more attention. Maybe, just maybe, nobody will notice. Fucktards. 

34 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I realize aggy blew their Party City budget and then some on Fisher but you’d think they could have at least set off a couple of cheap fireworks? I suspect Elko doesn’t give af. Clearly, he wanted to come back. 

I guess no money (ahem time) for fanfare. We are 11-1 and still have a shot to play in the CFP. And we’ll be playing them every year. Still, not even a tricked out aggy truck? To pick him up in? 

32 minutes ago, texasdago said:

The reaction on Facebook has been exceedingly muted.  Only saw one aggy friend post about and he said it was a solid hire.  If they loved the hired, they would all be crowing about it and erecting a statue by the giant ring monument.  Nope.  General reaction seems to be

I've not seen any family or friends excited about this at all either online, or a few aggy that I was around this morning when dropping kids off at school (and 2 out of the 3 didn't even realize they had a new coach), and the fact that they snuck him in during the middle of the night speaks volumes about how they feel about this.  They are embarrassed.

There was nothing stopping them from bringing him in after 9am, or even better late in the afternoon when they would have had more than enough time to get something together (band, football players, BMDs, news crews, etc.).

They are fucking embarrassed by this hire.

[Beau Vine 54424]

18 minutes ago, orangebird said:

They could just keep Bjork as athletic director "in name only".  His only responsibility going forward is to get the BOR members coffee and shine their shoes.  The BOR will have direct control over the athletic department without the pretense of a middleman.

Sure, it's a terrible idea, but as we've seen this weekend, there is no shortage of terrible ideas emanating from Collie Station.

They need to get the old band back together!

This goofy bastard was just absolutely perfect for that place.

[Liquor and Poker 3659]

55 minutes ago, Blotto said:

The coaster is out of the shop, and the rubes are getting in line...

Look for Elko to bring in Warren Buffet and Charlie Munger as coordinators.

Nothing at all like a cult.  “We need to stand behind holy father.  He sees and he knows. Be pure and unquestioning in your heart and he will guide you to heaven.”

[MonkeyDoughnut 10356]

27 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

How the fuck does Bjork still have a job or will they fire him after Elko is all settled in? They could have had Elko easy Saturday and no fuckery (and yes it’s aggy but HC searches are ugly.) I am old enough to remember our BMDs meeting GB at the airport and telling him not to get on the plane because we were hiring Mack Brown. I’m just happy we won’t be going through a HC search any time soon. Because Damn. 
Looking at the open HC spots for teams. Not fun..:

If I'm Elko's agent you have to demand stability type clause in his contract to find a way to insure Bjork is not fired. He's Elko's ticket to a massive payday after any big win.

[Nicole44 22078]

4 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

You'd think that of all people, aggy would know to go ugly early.

Everyone likes to punch above their paygrade. They hope they might take a swing and hit it out of the park. That is human nature. Or animal husbandry. lol. 

[TOR 5813]

56 minutes ago, Blotto said:

The coaster is out of the shop, and the rubes are getting in line...

Look for Elko to bring in Warren Buffet and Charlie Munger as coordinators.

How is he going to build that support staff when they've already told him he can't hire anyone?  

Love the superlatives they are already throwing around while admitting the program is a trainwreck - 'GREATEST 1 YEAR TURNAROUND IN FBS HISTORY WHOOP!'

[Nicole44 22078]

2 minutes ago, TOR said:

How is he going to build that support staff when they've already told him he can't hire anyone?  

Love the superlatives they are already throwing around while admitting the program is a trainwreck - 'GREATEST 1 YEAR TURNAROUND IN FBS HISTORY WHOOP!'

GLORY HOLE! 

[StrippersAndNobelPrizes 855]

Ha! Leaving in the middle of the night and then a Zoom call back to the team. At least he has someone on staff who can help him with that🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

Probably using Mayflower for the move. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤔

[CooterBrown 18028]

32 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

They could have had Elko easy Saturday and no fuckery (and yes it’s aggy but HC searches are ugly.) I

Stoops out interviewed Elko. It's that simple.  Stoops was the pick. The interview panel obviously agreed because a decision was relatively quick.  If it was a toss up, there would've been additional interviews and vetting. There wasn't.  So, even in aggy eyes, Elko is a distant runner up.

[89Horn 1550]

1 hour ago, StrippersAndNobelPrizes said:

Yep. Pretty much this

Stupid sip.  We identified our safety coach first, so he was our first choice.

[CHIEF 5095]

1 hour ago, Tex Pete said:

Mike Elko is vanilla. He’s who Texas A&M is. Even their “splash hire, big name, sitting national championship head coach” was vanilla. Nobody really cares beyond how much they force the rest of the world to pay attention to their never-ending train wreck.

Their culture is the problem. They’re programmed to embarrass themselves. 

If they would embrace their role as "spoilers" instead of "contenders", their mental health and their level of embarrassing themselves would be non-existent. They are the same tier with the Mississippi schools, South Carolina, Kentucky, etc. Their culture will always mean that. They will never be an Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas, or Florida.

CHIEF

[MonkeyDoughnut 10356]

I may not survive the day if Elko announces Jimbo as his OC

[Blotto 23574]

I am interested to see how they structured Elko's contract after all of Bjork's bjorking about incentives etc. We all know Elko had them over the barrel yesteday because of the Stoops fiasco, so we'll see just how much Elko (and his agent) "get" aggy. I bet they "get" aggy quite well. 

[Nicole44 22078]

12 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Stoops out interviewed Elko. It's that simple.  Stoops was the pick. The interview panel obviously agreed because a decision was relatively quick.  If it was a toss up, there would've been additional interviews and vetting. There wasn't.  So, even in aggy eyes, Elko is a distant runner up.

I’ve given this some serious thought since Stoops was announced to be the hire on GD Saturday morning. I think what happened is they took a run at DeBoer and got a hard pass. Avoiding trying for Lanning for same hard pass. Maybe even sent some feelers towards Fisch and came back empty. Knew Elko was right there. Bjork panicked and thought his buddy Stoops would be a better splashy hire. Went around BOR. put it out there to ESPN. BOR gets pissed. Stoops wasn’t even on the Santa Claus list they had (though he should have been.) they along with other boosters/BMDs put a stop to it when Stoops’ plane landed. Fuckery commenced. After some serious mayday discussions realized they had to keep Robinson but realized he couldn’t be HC. Called the guy they knew wanted the job all along. Winning. 
Im just spitballing here but I think that’s what happened. maybe Bjork still has a job because they have him under their thumb now.  👍🏻 

Edited November 27, 2023 by Nicole44

[Beau Vine 54424]

3 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

If they would embrace their role as "spoilers" instead of "contenders", their mental health and their level of embarrassing themselves would be non-existent.

You don't know aggy.

[Fuck Tim Beck 3834]

20 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I know who they need to hire

They could build the bonfire out of throw pillows. 

[fatheryeet 1543]

I'm assuming Elko has a good relationship with the Aggie dog?

[NoName 16402]

16 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Hold the phone..."the greatest one-year turnaround in FBS history?"  Lulz.   Is it even in the top 20 of that?   

June Jones at Hawaii has to be #1, and DeBoer at UDub has to be in the mix, Charlie Pell, Stoops?

 

Willie Fritz going from 2-10 at 2021 Tulane, with 1 win being vs something named Morgan State to 12-2 and beating USC in the Cotton Bowl has to be up there.

June Jones from 0-12 to 9-4 is up there.

Auburn going 3-9 and 0-8 in the SEC under Chizik to 12-2 and in the national championship game under Gus has to be up there.

Stoops went 7-5 then 13-0.

7 minutes ago, 89Horn said:

Stupid sip.  We identified our safety coach first, so he was our first choice.

[Beau Vine 54424]

2 minutes ago, Blotto said:

I am interested to see how they structured Elko's contract after all of Bjork's bjorking about incentives etc. We all know Elko had them over the barrel yesteday because of the Stoops fiasco, so we'll see just how much Elko (and his agent) "get" aggy. I bet they "get" aggy quite well. 

Aggy got got.

[Js1 85570]

1 minute ago, fatheryeet said:

I'm assuming Elko has a good relationship with the Aggie dog?

Idk, dogs are pretty territorial about their food. And judging from Elko, he is too. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26549]

44 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

 

[Todd Gack 432]

46 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Needs an aggy muumuu:

[Nicole44 22078]

3 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

I may not survive the day if Elko announces Jimbo as his OC

Sounds weird but I’d pull in Holgo. If they can keep him somewhat sober he’s a good OC. I figured Iowa would take a run at him since Holgo was born in Iowa and they should try to at least have some type of offense. 

[Chuckie Finster 22731]

If they had announced the Elko hire an hour after the firing of Jimbo, the fanbase would have been apoplectic.

Their current positive reaction is more about the events of the last week than it is about Elko.

[Liquor and Poker 3659]

1 minute ago, Chuckie Finster said:

If they had announced the Elko hire an hour after the firing of Jimbo, the fanbase would have been apoplectic.

Their current positive reaction is more about the events of the last week than it is about Elko.

5D chess with their own fans

[Nicole44 22078]

4 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

If they had announced the Elko hire an hour after the firing of Jimbo, the fanbase would have been apoplectic.

Their current positive reaction is more about the events of the last week than it is about Elko.

That’s actually fucking brilliant…no way they planned that far out. I’d respect the hell out of that in some bizarre way though. 

[Deej 76914]

31 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I know who they need to hire

She was great on Married with Children. 

[Asithappens 974]

46 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

He may end up being a good head coach. He is definitely a good defensive coordinator but has seemed a little overwhelmed as a head coach, and that was at a place with zero pressure on the head coach. 

Yeah, I think he will (or probably will) be good. Not great. But there are a lot of factors involved. Mainly, aggy incompetence.

[TrashMaster G 17597]

1 hour ago, alincoln said:

Elko is the guy who was always going to be there if they failed to secure any of their preferred targets, which of course they did.  

This is the best, most concise summary of their coaching search. It skips the Stoops fiasco, which was pure entertainment, but it still sums it up.

And @Chuckie Finster is absolutely correct - If they had announced Elko the day after Jimbo was fired, the reaction would have been the same as what we saw Saturday when the Stoops story surfaced.

Don't buy any of their bullshit in the next 48 hours about getting their first choice.  They swung for the fences, convinced that they are one of the biggest of the big dogs and top coaches would be lining up for the opportunity, and whiffed completely.

[CooterBrown 18028]

11 minutes ago, fatheryeet said:

I'm assuming Elko has a good relationship with the Aggie dog?

yep. 

[General Specific 3267]

They could build the bonfire out of throw pillows. 

A whole new meaning to “Scissor me timber”

[TOR 5813]

12 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Holgo. If they can keep him somewhat sober

The world neither wants or needs a sober Holgo.

[US183 125]

Mike Elko has proven he can take a trash heap and in one year,…….  
 

so, they were looking for a trash man, found a trash man, and took him .. advantage aggy .. whoop whoop 
 

 

[markstanco 12608]

https://texags.com/forums/5/topics/3426578

The sips are scared of this hire.
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They know Elko has the ability to win at an elite level. They are scared of the 2024 game.

 

 

[NoName 16402]

Just now, TrashMaster G said:

This is the best, most concise summary of their coaching search. It skips the Stoops fiasco, which was pure entertainment, but it still sums it up.

And @Chuckie Finster is absolutely correct - If they had announced Elko the day after Jimbo was fired, the reaction would have been the same as what we saw Saturday when the Stoops story surfaced.

Don't buy any of their bullshit in the next 48 hours about getting their first choice.  They swung for the fences, convinced that they are one of the biggest of the big dogs and top coaches would be lining up for the opportunity, and whiffed completely.

look at the difference between how OU handled it and out A&M handled it though

everyone believes OU went big game hunting when Riley left. they ended up "settling" for Venables. they could tell the whole world he was their first choice because there wasn't jack out in public that showed they talked to 8 other people before him.

the same with A&M except their dumbass AD went out and told the entire universe they were interviewing a ton of people, hired a guy, got it rescinded by the BOR, then ran to the guy who had publicly turned them down at least once before and had to "settle" for him.

they created the situation by firing Jimbo clearly with NO PLAN, negotiated against themselves publicy, handled the situation as poorly as i can possibly imagine, and ended up looking like crap everywhere and pissed off their own players to make it even worse. and Bjork has now tied his wagon directly to Venables.

meanwhile, joe castiglione was caught flat footed by Riley leaving and ran a better search much more quietly and can move on when/if venables fails. venables failing != joe c failing.

how Ross Bjork has a job today is beyond me. those clowns need to reassign him to be the AD at A&M-Qatar yesterday.

they should offer Joe Castiglione the AD job for what they were paying Jimbo and laugh their way to the bank, but they wont and probably end up somehow re-hiring Bill Byrne or RC as their next AD.

thank god they keep actually successful people away from their athletic department or they might actually find a way to become relevant more than twice every 80 years.

[NoName 16402]

2 minutes ago, markstanco said:

https://texags.com/forums/5/topics/3426578

The sips are scared of this hire.
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They know Elko has the ability to win at an elite level. They are scared of the 2024 game.

there is no single fanbase that projects their fears on others as much as A&M