Tell Me About Texas a&m

[Candi Fisther 87]

[Navin R. Johnson 870]

Does Reveille sign off on all coaching hires? For example, the AD presents it to the BoR, the BoR signs off, then does Reveille have to bark once for approval and stamp her paw print on the contract?

[tx ind 7056]

8 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

I mean, they really should go 8-4 at worst next year. Their schedule is super favorable. No Alabama, Georgia or Ole Miss, and their four toughest games (ND, LSU, Texas and Missouri) are all at home. ND and LSU are relatively down, and although we should be better than A&M on paper, it's worth acknowledging that we have to replace a fuck ton of talent on both sides of the ball next year. If they can't get to 8 wins next year, it's a really bad sign for them. 

Is App State on the OOC slate?

[Duane Moore 5636]

3 hours ago, Longboard Horn said:

 

How does a team go 5-9 in a season? Or 9-5 for that matter?

2 hours ago, Chopper said:

Is Elko happy? Of course he is. He gets to at minimum double his current salary, add HC to his career achievements, and amazingly have fewer job responsibilities than he did at Duke.

This take by the sports columnist for SEC sports at USA Today is hilarious.

"Good thing Texas A&M applied to its safety school.

The Aggies didn't have the credentials to earn admission to Stanford or Cal-Berkeley, so it's off to Sacramento State, the commuter school that granted admission the moment it received the application.

That’s how I view the Aggies’ reported plans to hire Duke’s Mike Elko to replace the fired Jimbo Fisher.

All along, Elko profiled as the Aggies’ obvious fallback plan if the search didn’t produce a big fish.

Texas A&M paid a $77 million buyout to rectify its Fisher mistake and hire the guy who used to be Fisher’s wingman.

You could convince me that Michigan State made a better hire by nabbing Oregon State’s Jonathan Smith. You could convince me Texas A&M made off better with Elko.

But that’s sort of the point, isn’t it?

Texas A&M settling for Elko is a humbling reminder that, despite all of its resources, it’s closer to being Michigan State than Michigan."

 

 

I think this is a fair take. Elko always was the most reasonable and achievable choice for them. It was all the Josh Pate’s of the world saying that they were a “top 3, maybe 4” coaching destination that got it twisted. 

[utee94 16063]

10 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

I mean, they really should go 8-4 at worst next year. Their schedule is super favorable. No Alabama, Georgia or Ole Miss, and their four toughest games (ND, LSU, Texas and Missouri) are all at home. ND and LSU are relatively down, and although we should be better than A&M on paper, it's worth acknowledging that we have to replace a fuck ton of talent on both sides of the ball next year. If they can't get to 8 wins next year, it's a really bad sign for them. 

Maybe, but why would anyone assume they'd win @Florida, @South Carlina, @Miss State, or @ Auburn, when they lost to ALL of those teams in 2022, the last time they played all but Florida on the road?

Not counting FCS scrubs, the only "likely" win on their entire schedule, is Arkansas, because for some reason they just flat out own the pigs.

Edited November 27, 2023 by utee94

[Horndog 2293]

25 minutes ago, ImissWallyPryor said:

So Urban really was a myth?

But he could have been a legend. 

[Underdog 29095]

The ND game scared Stoops off. 

[The Beast 585]

15 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

I mean, they really should go 8-4 at worst next year. Their schedule is super favorable. No Alabama, Georgia or Ole Miss, and their four toughest games (ND, LSU, Texas and Missouri) are all at home. ND and LSU are relatively down, and although we should be better than A&M on paper, it's worth acknowledging that we have to replace a fuck ton of talent on both sides of the ball next year. If they can't get to 8 wins next year, it's a really bad sign for them. 

I see this post every year about the aggys of what they should do, but you know what… they always don’t. 

[closetojumping 65238]

7 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

How does a team go 5-9 in a season? Or 9-5 for that matter?

I think this is a fair take. Elko always was the most reasonable and achievable choice for them. It was all the Josh Pate’s of the world saying that they were a “top 3, maybe 4” coaching destination that got it twisted. 

5-7 was a typo. Teams go 9-5 though. Texas went 9-5 in 1999. Lost the CCG and then got blown out Houston Nutt and an Arky team that, yet again, declared jihad on Texas while Texas failed to realize it had entered a rivalry cage match. That's one way to get there.

[jimmyjazz 46958]

Regarding this quote:

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Texas A&M settling for Elko is a humbling reminder that, despite all of its resources, it’s closer to being Michigan State than Michigan.

While true, it's far too flattering of A&M.  Over the last decade, here are the records of the 3 programs in question;

Michigan:  91/32 (0.74)

Michigan State:  74/49 (0.60)

Texas A&M:  77/47 (0.62)

 

For all intents & purposes, Texas A&M *IS* Michigan State

[Reynolds Woodcock 5064]

4 minutes ago, utee94 said:

Maybe, but why would anyone assume they'd win @Florida, @South Carlina, @Miss State, or @ Auburn, when they lost to ALL of those teams in 2022, the last time they played all but Florida on the road?

Not counting FCS scrubs, the only "likely" win on their entire schedule, is Arkansas, because for some reason they just flat out own the pigs.

Billy Napier is a Charlie Strong-level disaster of a head coach, so I include Florida in the Arkansas territory assuming they retain him. Losing to Billy Napier should be a for cause fireable event for any coach.

I don't think they'll go 0-4 against LSU, Missouri, ND and Texas, and I don't think they'll go 4-0 against the teams you mention. But 8-4 should be very manageable absent a complete roster implosion or total failure of coaching. Both of which could of course happen, since it's A&M we're talking about.  

[orangebird 1147]

33 minutes ago, ImissWallyPryor said:

So Urban really was a myth?

My recollection was that they quietly put out feelers to Urban but were rebuffed.  Can't help but think we dodged a bullet there, given his meltdown in Jacksonville.

[ChiTownDoc 21323]

2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

5-7 was a typo. Teams go 9-5 though. Texas went 9-5 in 1999. Lost the CCG and then got blown out Houston Nutt and an Arky team that, yet again, declared jihad on Texas while Texas failed to realize it had entered a rivalry cage match. That's one way to get there.

For the love of God, don’t do that vs OSU.  Mullet can act like he doesn’t care but for him it would make his career.  We gave you all 77-0.  Please reciprocate.  

[Redneck Mutha 8158]

33 minutes ago, Bill Lumbergh said:

Objectively, Charlie Strong had a better resume as both a DC and HC when he was hired at Texas.  Herman as an OC/HC, as well.

Let that sink in when aggy says we should be scared about the hire.

I was thinking this same thing last night.  Is this Charlie Strong redux?

[utee94 16063]

2 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

Billy Napier is a Charlie Strong-level disaster of a head coach, so I include Florida in the Arkansas territory assuming they retain him. Losing to Billy Napier should be a for cause fireable event for any coach.

I don't think they'll go 0-4 against LSU, Missouri, ND and Texas, and I don't think they'll go 4-0 against the teams you mention. But 8-4 should be very manageable absent a complete roster implosion or total failure of coaching. Both of which could of course happen, since it's A&M we're talking about.  

Right, that's exactly the point.  I don't think it'll be a complete failure on either count, but rather a little bit of both. It's what the ags do.

You and I aren't far off, I just think 8-4 is their absolute ceiling, while you think it's the likely outcome.

[TxTower 684]

Given all the laughter at aggy"s expense, we're probably less than 24 hours from an aggressive Looch article wherein he compares the hires of Elko and Sark and reaches the conclusion that objectively Elko is a much more justifiable hire, and any mocking you here coming from Austin is driven by fear and jealousy.

So predictable. The articles just write themselves.

[South Austin 53151]

2 minutes ago, TxTower said:

So predictable. The articles just write themselves.

I really think Billy Luicci has employed AI to generate all of his content.

[closetojumping 65238]

11 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

For the love of God, don’t do that vs OSU.  Mullet can act like he doesn’t care but for him it would make his career.  We gave you all 77-0.  Please reciprocate.  

Ha. Yeah, I don't think Texas is going to have an issue getting up for Saturday. In any event, OSU is heavily reliant on their running game with an immobile QB. I don't *expect* Texas to blow Okie State out, but there are a lot of key issues in UT's favor that would support that argument.

[NorthLoop 14420]

34 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

I mean, they really should go 8-4 at worst next year. Their schedule is super favorable. No Alabama, Georgia or Ole Miss, and their four toughest games (ND, LSU, Texas and Missouri) are all at home. ND and LSU are relatively down, and although we should be better than A&M on paper, it's worth acknowledging that we have to replace a fuck ton of talent on both sides of the ball next year. If they can't get to 8 wins next year, it's a really bad sign for them. 

Narrator: They would only go on to win 6 games that year. 

[DixonHur 11938]

28 minutes ago, NoName said:

their schedule really is pathetic.

8/12 games in Texas, ND, LSU and Texas at home plus whatever Mizzou ends up being next year.

easiest road schedule they will probably get (@Aub, @UF, @Miss St, @SCar)

another year where they should start off with +3 wins (McNeese, BG and New Mexico State)

 

 

ND is a marquee name, but they're trash and next year is likely Freeman's last, so aggy will probably start 5-0 ranked in the Top 10 feeling great about themselves until the inevitable crash.

First loss prediction...at Miss State.

[Beau Vine 55801]

1 hour ago, Napoleon said:

 

1.  Was that Evan Stewart driving the truck?

2.  I like how he walked off the plane without his wife and then no one opened the truck door for her.

[Celery Man 21076]

2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Needs an aggy muumuu:

wonder if he's going to coach in his sunday-go-to-meeting-clothes at aggy too

[ImissWallyPryor 9046]

21 minutes ago, orangebird said:

My recollection was that they quietly put out feelers to Urban but were rebuffed.  Can't help but think we dodged a bullet there, given his meltdown in Jacksonville.

Don’t forget the hotel room curtains. 

[C-Man 27684]

34 minutes ago, tx ind said:

Is App State on the OOC slate?

No, but Jerry Kill-coached New Mexico State is. His Aggies are 10-3 this season and fresh off a 31-10 thumping of Auburn a couple weeks back during SEC "Layup Week."

[Beau Vine 55801]

13 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I really think Billy Luicci has employed AI to generate all of his content.

I really don't think he uses any kind of intelligence to generate his content.

[UTEE97 3890]

6 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

1.  Was that Evan Stewart driving the truck?

2.  I like how he walked off the plane without his wife and then no one opened the truck door for her.

Evan Stewart hasn't liked or commented on any posts regarding the hire. Dude is busy planning his next move.

[C-Man 27684]

2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Hold the phone..."the greatest one-year turnaround in FBS history?"  Lulz.   Is it even in the top 20 of that?   

June Jones at Hawaii has to be #1, and DeBoer at UDub has to be in the mix, Charlie Pell, Stoops?

 

It would take some digging but Duke was 3-9 in David Cutcliffe's last season in 2021. Elko's first Duke team was 9-4, so a six-win improvement. I'm going to go out on a limb and say, yeah, that ain't the biggest one-year turnaround for a first-year coach of all time.

[Tex Pete 21392]

3 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

I really don't think he uses any kind of intelligence to generate his content.

Ass Intelligence

[C-Man 27684]

Hell, Fred Akers' first team was a six-game improvement over DKR's last -- 5-5-1 to 11-1. (Of course, that team featured Earl Fucking Campbell.)

[Your Mom 4956]

8 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

First loss prediction...at Miss State.

 Miss St was “fire the coach after one year” bad this year.  And they just hired Art Briles son in law.  Starting QB is in the portal.  They got up for the Egg Bowl and kept it respectable but in the big picture it’s a bigger dumpster fire than A&M over there.  

[TOR 6098]

3 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Hell, Fred Akers' first team was a six-game improvement over DKR's last -- 5-5-1 to 11-1. (Of course, that team featured Earl Fucking Campbell.)

Funny how their eee-leet coaching destination top tier program needs a turn-around specialist.

[Nicole44 22206]

 

[NoName 17102]

12 minutes ago, C-Man said:

No, but Jerry Kill-coached New Mexico State is. His Aggies are 10-3 this season and fresh off a 31-10 thumping of Auburn a couple weeks back during SEC "Layup Week."

aww shit i mixed up New Mexico and New Mexico State.

[Blotto 23974]

51 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

I mean, they really should go 8-4 at worst next year. Their schedule is super favorable. No Alabama, Georgia or Ole Miss, and their four toughest games (ND, LSU, Texas and Missouri) are all at home. ND and LSU are relatively down, and although we should be better than A&M on paper, it's worth acknowledging that we have to replace a fuck ton of talent on both sides of the ball next year. If they can't get to 8 wins next year, it's a really bad sign for them. 

They also have New Mexico St on the schedule next year and while I have no idea what they will bring back from this years 10-3 team, that's probably a saltier matchup than aggy expected when they signed them up. If Jerry Kill didn't have all the seizure problems, he'd probably be coaching at a better stop than NMSU. We'll see if their better players transfer out or stick around. 

Would love a little aggie on aggie violence with NMSU walking away with the crown. Its a longshot, but NMSU did beat Auburn by a larger margin on the road than aggy managed at home. That seems like the most humorous candidate for the "early setback" stage of the annual roller coaster. 

[C-Man 27684]

2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Hold the phone..."the greatest one-year turnaround in FBS history?"  Lulz.   Is it even in the top 20 of that?   

June Jones at Hawaii has to be #1, and DeBoer at UDub has to be in the mix, Charlie Pell, Stoops?

 

June Jones inherited a Hawaii team that went 0-11 in 1998. The 1999 Rainbows were 9-4. That has to be the record. It's definitely better than Elko's six-win turnaround at Duke.

[Macanudo 13249]

Everyone needs to remember that if they go 4-8 with wins over the powder puff squads and then us, they'll crow about it until the end of time.

[Butch Had Not 3052]

Just now, Blotto said:

They also have New Mexico St on the schedule next year and while I have no idea what they will bring back from this years 10-3 team, that's probably a saltier matchup than aggy expected when they signed them up. If Jerry Kill didn't have all the seizure problems, he'd probably be coaching at a better stop than NMSU. We'll see if their better players transfer out or stick around. 

Would love a little aggie on aggie violence with NMSU walking away with the crown. Its a longshot, but NMSU did beat Auburn by a larger margin on the road than aggy managed at home. That seems like the most humorous candidate for the "early setback" stage of the annual roller coaster. 

Nmsu Aggie violence isn't something to mess around with.  So much drama there with that athletic department. 

[DixonHur 11938]

9 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

 Miss St was “fire the coach after one year” bad this year.  And they just hired Art Briles son in law.  Starting QB is in the portal.  They got up for the Egg Bowl and kept it respectable but in the big picture it’s a bigger dumpster fire than A&M over there.  

I'll take Lebby's O vs Elko's D any day of the week.

Plus the portal will be his friend.  He'll get a quality QB to run his offense.  Meanwhile, I expect the outbound portal at aggy to be pretty busy.

[BlueGreySky 1063]

28 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

ND is a marquee name, but they're trash and next year is likely Freeman's last, so aggy will probably start 5-0 ranked in the Top 10 feeling great about themselves until the inevitable crash.

First loss prediction...at Miss State.

The Irish are not losing to these fucking goobers.  

[Duane Moore 5636]

52 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

5-7 was a typo. Teams go 9-5 though. Texas went 9-5 in 1999. Lost the CCG and then got blown out Houston Nutt and an Arky team that, yet again, declared jihad on Texas while Texas failed to realize it had entered a rivalry cage match. That's one way to get there.

Yeah I guess that’s right on the 9-5 bit. Math is hard. 

[cactusflinthead 27626]

15 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

 

Bob's Spin Doctoring and Defense of the Untenable comes on at 3PM, if he can pry himself away from the NFL before tomorrow. 

[dcar00 14898]

53 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Regarding this quote:

While true, it's far too flattering of A&M.  Over the last decade, here are the records of the 3 programs in question;

Michigan:  91/32 (0.74)

Michigan State:  74/49 (0.60)

Texas A&M:  77/47 (0.62)

 

For all intents & purposes, Texas A&M *IS* Michigan State

the Mich/MSU v Texas/aggy comparison couldn't be more similar in almost every way.  Mich and Texas have underachieved as far as championships post WW2 but own the rivalry.  MSU and aggy are practically mirror images.  MSU has had more recent success(last 20 years) IMO.

[TexasEd 8248]

1 hour ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

In all honesty if Elko would have stayed at Duke, Duke would be a higher ranked team than A&M at the start of the season and the end of the season. I think that flips now.

Well they sure owned Duke on that one!

2 hours ago, Macanudo said:

Nick Saban will not be coaching in 2027.  

He'll still be talking to ducks.

1 hour ago, tx ind said:

Is App State on the OOC slate?

No but New Mexico State is.  Either way the B/CS Herald will get to run the headline, "Aggies win!"  

Edited November 27, 2023 by TexasEd

[TOR 6098]

9 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

I'll take Lebby's O vs Elko's D any day of the week.

Plus the portal will be his friend.  He'll get a quality QB to run his offense.  Meanwhile, I expect the outbound portal at aggy to be pretty busy.

That goon could very well bring Art on staff as a consultant and go full outlaw program.   Would love to see MSU light up the SECSECSEC until it crashed and burned.

[orangebird 1147]

3 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

They need to get the old band back together!

This goofy bastard was just absolutely perfect for that place.

He really was.  I'll never forget being entertained by his commentary about bat poop in that shitbox stadium of theirs, and his constant use of "our friends in the State Capital" when referring to us.  I mean, I probably lost IQ points every time I read his drivel, but in a way, I sort of miss it.

[DixonHur 11938]

7 minutes ago, BlueGreySky said:

The Irish are not losing to these fucking goobers.  

My brother and sister both went to ND, so there's a bit of family rivalry in my prediction.

But aggy has them at home and they'll be working on that game plan all off-season.

[statsman 5674]

55 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

For the love of God, don’t do that vs OSU.  Mullet can act like he doesn’t care but for him it would make his career.  We gave you all 77-0.  Please reciprocate.  

We have one thing going for us. For the first time since Gundy became HC, he and his staff spent no time this past spring and summer watching Texas tape or gameplanning Texas. He has to start this week, just like Sark. 

[DixonHur 11938]

2 minutes ago, TOR said:

That goon could very well bring Art on staff as a consultant and go full outlaw program. 

Odds definitely greater than 50-50

People outside of Texas and Oklahoma have long forgotten about Rapelor

[Nicole44 22206]

1 minute ago, statsman said:

We have one thing going for us. For the first time since Gundy became HC, he and his staff spent no time this past spring and summer watching Texas tape or gameplanning Texas. He has to start this week, just like Sark. 

 

[Napoleon 8800]

33 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

Evan Stewart hasn't liked or commented on any posts regarding the hire. Dude is busy planning his next move.

Evan will not announce anything until he is done with exams and off campus.

No one in his or a similar situation should announce shit until they are done with the semester.