Tell Me About Texas a&m

[Horn Dogg 4115]

5 hours ago, lilMAC25 said:

Before 5-7, aggy had been pushing the idea that a #1 recruiting class usually wins a championship.

 

THAT is why they’re desperate to keep that class together.

How funny would it be if we got Evan Stewart through the portal anyways?

[DixonHur 11551]

5 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

 

Thank God he's sitting down.  Don't nobody wanna see that moose knuckle.

[Tex Pete 20815]

2 minutes ago, Horn Dogg said:

How funny would it be if we got Evan Stewart through the portal anyways?

Sarkisian just mentioned again in his presser that players they take in the portal need to be "culture fits" to come to Texas. I really don't see us taking Stewart.

Every good player is not necessarily worth the headache. See: Evans, Zach. And that fat piece of shit lineman, who is now a skinny piece of shit.

[chainsaw 9919]

Just now, Tex Pete said:

And that fat piece of shit lineman, who is now a skinny piece of shit.

[Beau Vine 54608]

10 minutes ago, orangebird said:

He really was.  I'll never forget being entertained by his commentary about bat poop in that shitbox stadium of theirs, and his constant use of "our friends in the State Capital" when referring to us.  I mean, I probably lost IQ points every time I read his drivel, but in a way, I sort of miss it.

I remember those Weekly Wednesdays would drop at 4pm, and if they hadn't shown up by 4:05, there would be 20 posts on the Hornfans aggy thread asking if anyone had that week's Weekly Wednesday.

[F250 28923]

2 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

Why would Elko be scared? 

If you flew into college station in the middle of the night and then were given a dozen sheep dressed in lingerie and a cadet snuff boy and told "it's tradition that we watch the first session" you would be scared too.

 

[Blotto 23635]

4 minutes ago, F250 said:

If you flew into college station in the middle of the night and then were given a dozen sheep dressed in lingerie and a cadet snuff boy and told "it's tradition that we watch the first session" you would be scared too.

 

 

[dcar00 14551]

1 hour ago, Redneck Mutha said:

I was thinking this same thing last night.  Is this Charlie Strong redux?

I don't think Elko is Charlie Strong level given what he did do at Duke(different animal from Louisville regarding football) but that doesn't mean he might not be gone in 3-4 years.

[chainsaw 9919]

Can anyone, money aside, say with a straight face that Elko is an upgrade from Jimbo?

Now imagine paying to make that "upgrade" and make that make sense.

[Texasrocks 2149]

59 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

ND is a marquee name, but they're trash and next year is likely Freeman's last, so aggy will probably start 5-0 ranked in the Top 10 feeling great about themselves until the inevitable crash.

First loss prediction...at Miss State.

Freeman has 9 wins in each of his first two years and could reach 10 with a bowl win. His seat isn't even warm.

[dcar00 14551]

Just now, chainsaw said:

Can anyone, money aside, say with a straight face that Elko is an upgrade from Jimbo?

Now imagine paying to make that "upgrade" and make that make sense.

they were never going to upgrade.  It was all about being done with the stupid contract, trying to keep everyone from portalling, have a new coach that can "sell" a new vision, and hopefully beat Texas(new coach excuse built in if they lose).  They knew if Jimbo lost to Texas, recruiting was gonna just get worse with nothing to sell.

new object(even if not shiny) is still new.

It is as simple as that.  Marketing 101.

[orangebird 1126]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

I don't think Elko is Charlie Strong level given what he did do at Duke(different animal from Louisville regarding football) but that doesn't mean he might not be gone in 3-4 years.

Counterpoint: I would argue that David Cutcliffe laid a lot of the groundwork for Elko's success at Duke.  Cutcliffe was admittedly awful during his last few years at Duke, although I don't know that Elko was there long enough to get his own recruits into the system at Duke.  We just don't really have enough data to ascertain whether Elko could have sustained that success while at Duke.  Given that a substantial portion of Duke's current talent is moving on after this season, it's likely that Elko decided to strike while the iron is hot.  Does he have it in him to keep it going at aggy?  Guess we're about to find out.

[dcar00 14551]

1 minute ago, Texasrocks said:

Freeman has 9 wins in each of his first two years and could reach 10 with a bowl win. His seat isn't even warm.

yep ND is a lot like Texas in that regard.  Freeman has salvaged the ship to some extent.

[Neonmoon 38130]

Elko is a good DC. He's not a great recruiter, but NIL makes that irrelevant these days. They will have a good defense. 

Not enough evidence to know if he's a good HC. 

 

[Horn Dog 10008]

4 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

 

When is his baby due and will his maternity leave run into bowl season?

[Wulaw Horn 19157]

57 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

 Miss St was “fire the coach after one year” bad this year.  And they just hired Art Briles son in law.  Starting QB is in the portal.  They got up for the Egg Bowl and kept it respectable but in the big picture it’s a bigger dumpster fire than A&M over there.  

Sure. But Dillon Gabriel is probably portaling there in his 6th year with their HC so I would guess that State will be somewhat respectable next year.  That is a hump aggy hasn't gotten over (winning a road game against a somewhat respectable team). 

[dcar00 14551]

Just now, orangebird said:

Counterpoint: I would argue that David Cutcliffe laid a lot of the groundwork for Elko's success at Duke.  Cutcliffe was admittedly awful during his last few years at Duke, although I don't know that Elko was there long enough to get his own recruits into the system at Duke.  We just don't really have enough data to ascertain whether Elko could have sustained that success while at Duke.  Given that a substantial portion of Duke's current talent is moving on after this season, it's likely that Elko decided to strike while the iron is hot.  Does he have it in him to keep it going at aggy?  Guess we're about to find out.

Cutcliffe did take Duke to a sustained level of success for them for a bit. it burned down the last 3 years. Louisville has had success over multiple coaches. It is mainly that Louisville is easier to turn around than Duke in general IMO.  Kragthorpe was not good though.

[chainsaw 9919]

They shoulda kept Jimbo. Already paying for him.

[Nicole44 22187]

Just now, Horn Dog said:

When is his baby due and will his maternity leave run into bowl season?

 

[Blotto 23635]

21 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I don't think Elko is Charlie Strong level given what he did do at Duke(different animal from Louisville regarding football) but that doesn't mean he might not be gone in 3-4 years.

That's one reason I'm interested in the contract details. They are already paying Jimbo through 2031 to the tune of $7.2M per. It would be peak aggy if they have to start making payments on 3 coaches in a few years. Just based on what top coaches are making these days and aggy desperately wanting the world to know how rich they are, I'd expect him in that $9M range to compare with Freshwater and Stoops. 

1. Nick Saban, Alabama (No. 1 overall): $11.407 million
2. Kirby Smart, Georgia (No. 3 overall): $10.706 million
3. Brian Kelly, LSU (No. 6 overall): $9.975 million
4. Jimbo Fisher, Texas A&M (No. 7 overall): $9.15 million
5. Mark Stoops, Kentucky (No. 8 overall): $9.014 million
6. Josh Heupel, Tennessee (No. 9 overall): $9 million
7. Lane Kiffin, Ole Miss (No. 10 overall): $9 million
8. Billy Napier, Florida (No. 16 overall): $7.27 million
9. Hugh Freeze, Auburn (No. 20 overall): $6.5 million
10. Sam Pittman, Arkansas (No. 22 overall): $6.358 million
11. Shane Beamer, South Carolina (No. 24 overall): $6.125 million
12. Eliah Drinkwitz, Missouri (No. 25 overall): $6 million
13. Clark Lea, Vanderbilt (No. 56 overall): $3.052 million
14. Zach Arnett, Mississippi State No. (58 overall): $3 million

I think Elko's agent is Sexton, so we all know who will win a negotiating battle between Sexton and aggy. 

Edited November 27, 2023 by Blotto

[wood 11369]

Can someone remind me what Sark's salary is?

[El Squared 1826]

13 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

He likes the cult of big checks cashing

Wonder now if perhaps Jimbo didn't get the golden parachute , but maybe a tin foil or toilet paper one, if they had the goods on him to term him w/ cause, and they mutually agreed to a quiet , much much lower payout. 

[Nicole44 22187]

1 minute ago, wood said:

Can someone remind me what Sark's salary is?

Sarkisian signed a six-year, $34.2 million contract with Texas in 2021. His contract stipulated annual $200,000 increases, so his salary has gone up from its starting figure of $5.2 million to its current $5.6 million. USA TODAY lists his buyout at $12,926,667.

[closetohumping 17534]

[El Squared 1826]

5 hours ago, Sir Ulrich said:

Can't beat Mack Brown at his biggest rival. Perfect fit for the aggies. 

Not taking side in Duke vs NC but I watched the game and to me looked as if the refs pulled a Rig XII on Duke. Really shitty calls.

[Laga4 1270]

17 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

Louisville has had success over multiple coaches.

Hard to tear down the powerhouse Charlie Strong built there.  

[wood 11369]

2 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Sarkisian signed a six-year, $34.2 million contract with Texas in 2021. His contract stipulated annual $200,000 increases, so his salary has gone up from its starting figure of $5.2 million to its current $5.6 million. USA TODAY lists his buyout at $12,926,667.

Dang. advantage aggy yet again!

[dcar00 14551]

12 minutes ago, Blotto said:

That's one reason I'm interested in the contract details. They are already paying Jimbo through 2031 to the tune of $7.2M per. It would be peak aggy if they have to start making payments on 3 coaches in a few years. Just based on what top coaches are making these days and aggy desperately wanting the world to know how rich they are, I'd expect him in that $9M range to compare with Freshwater and Stoops. 

1. Nick Saban, Alabama (No. 1 overall): $11.407 million
2. Kirby Smart, Georgia (No. 3 overall): $10.706 million
3. Brian Kelly, LSU (No. 6 overall): $9.975 million
4. Jimbo Fisher, Texas A&M (No. 7 overall): $9.15 million
5. Mark Stoops, Kentucky (No. 8 overall): $9.014 million
6. Josh Heupel, Tennessee (No. 9 overall): $9 million
7. Lane Kiffin, Ole Miss (No. 10 overall): $9 million
8. Billy Napier, Florida (No. 16 overall): $7.27 million
9. Hugh Freeze, Auburn (No. 20 overall): $6.5 million
10. Sam Pittman, Arkansas (No. 22 overall): $6.358 million
11. Shane Beamer, South Carolina (No. 24 overall): $6.125 million
12. Eliah Drinkwitz, Missouri (No. 25 overall): $6 million
13. Clark Lea, Vanderbilt (No. 56 overall): $3.052 million
14. Zach Arnett, Mississippi State No. (58 overall): $3 million

I think Elko's agent is Sexton, so we all know who will win a negotiating battle between Sexton and aggy. 

good point.  they may be forced to keep him 6 years.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Jimbo vs Elko:
 

 

Hell, he didn’t even get a Gus Grissom welcome back.

[Jimmy Two Times 812]

1 hour ago, DixonHur said:

My brother and sister both went to ND, so there's a bit of family rivalry in my prediction.

But aggy has them at home and they'll be working on that game plan all off-season.

Will Notre Dame just be ignoring the game all offseason? Would think people will eventually learn that you can't pencil in wins for the aggies against capable opponents - especially ones that have any ability to pressure the QB. 

[irishtexan 11530]

Of all the insane shit about Aggy that I'll never understand, perhaps the one thing that is most mystifying is why they insist on being so declarative about shit that can be so easily factually disputed or disregarded based on historical performance.

"We don't have a plan B. We identify our top target and go get him" - You literally hired your backup plan when the original backup plan was mocked by your fanbase. 

"This is not an 8-4 job" - Your historical performance over the past 25 years is 8-4 and you hired a guy that fell short of those middling expectations in the ACC.

The plaque. That's all. The plaque.

NONE of that shit needed to be said or done. They're so fucking obsessed with projecting their own (hilariously inaccurate) manufactured sense of confidence and superiority that they continue to do and say unbelievably stupid shit.

They publicly state that one of the main things they were looking for in a coach was his ability to keep their illustrious #1 class of all time intact. Never mind that from a program-building perspective the class was comically weighted to one position group, filled with character risks and out-of-state mercenaries that aren't ever likely to succeed. Who from that class has turned into a "must retain" stud? Name one. You can't. Walter Nolan? He's a good player. He's not a dude opposing OCs have to scheme around. Evan Stewart? He's gone. Bryce Anderson? Maybe he'll get there? If you're wanting to rid yourself of the festering rot of mediocrity that has plagued your program for 25 years none of those guys should matter. Project cautious confidence in the capability of the new guy and give him time to build the program the way he wants to. But no, you can't do that. You're making decisions that will reverberate for decades hoping against all odds that you win one game next year. 

This is how stupid people run shit. It's fucking absurd.

 

[TrashMaster G 17670]

1 hour ago, Horn Dogg said:

How funny would it be if we got Evan Stewart through the portal anyways?

No, thank you.

[TrashMaster G 17670]

1 minute ago, irishtexan said:

Of all the insane shit about Aggy that I'll never understand, perhaps the one thing that is most mystifying is why they insist on being so declarative about shit that can be so easily factually disputed or disregarded based on historical performance.

"We don't have a plan B. We identify our top target and go get him" - You literally hired your backup plan when the original backup plan was mocked by your fanbase. 

"This is not an 8-4 job" - Your historical performance over the past 25 years is 8-4 and you hired a guy that fell short of those middling expectations in the ACC.

The plaque. That's all. The plaque.

NONE of that shit needed to be said or done. They're so fucking obsessed with projecting their own (hilariously inaccurate) manufactured sense of confidence and superiority that they continue to do and say unbelievably stupid shit.

They publicly state that one of the main things they were looking for in a coach was his ability to keep their illustrious #1 class of all time intact. Never mind that from a program-building perspective the class was comically weighted to one position group, filled with character risks and out-of-state mercenaries that aren't ever likely to succeed. Who from that class has turned into a "must retain" stud? Name one. You can't. Walter Nolan? He's a good player. He's not a dude opposing OCs have to scheme around. Evan Stewart? He's gone. Bryce Anderson? Maybe he'll get there? If you're wanting to rid yourself of the festering rot of mediocrity that has plagued your program for 25 years none of those guys should matter. Project cautious confidence in the capability of the new guy and give him time to build the program the way he wants to. But no, you can't do that. You're making decisions that will reverberate for decades hoping against all odds that you win one game next year. 

This is how stupid people run shit. It's fucking absurd.

 

Cultural insecurity and inferiority complex leads to constant need for validation.  It's pretty simple.

[Constant 6759]

34 minutes ago, Blotto said:

That's one reason I'm interested in the contract details. They are already paying Jimbo through 2031 to the tune of $7.2M per. It would be peak aggy if they have to start making payments on 3 coaches in a few years. Just based on what top coaches are making these days and aggy desperately wanting the world to know how rich they are, I'd expect him in that $9M range to compare with Freshwater and Stoops. 

1. Nick Saban, Alabama (No. 1 overall): $11.407 million
2. Kirby Smart, Georgia (No. 3 overall): $10.706 million
3. Brian Kelly, LSU (No. 6 overall): $9.975 million
4. Jimbo Fisher, Texas A&M (No. 7 overall): $9.15 million
5. Mark Stoops, Kentucky (No. 8 overall): $9.014 million
6. Josh Heupel, Tennessee (No. 9 overall): $9 million
7. Lane Kiffin, Ole Miss (No. 10 overall): $9 million
8. Billy Napier, Florida (No. 16 overall): $7.27 million
9. Hugh Freeze, Auburn (No. 20 overall): $6.5 million
10. Sam Pittman, Arkansas (No. 22 overall): $6.358 million
11. Shane Beamer, South Carolina (No. 24 overall): $6.125 million
12. Eliah Drinkwitz, Missouri (No. 25 overall): $6 million
13. Clark Lea, Vanderbilt (No. 56 overall): $3.052 million
14. Zach Arnett, Mississippi State No. (58 overall): $3 million

I think Elko's agent is Sexton, so we all know who will win a negotiating battle between Sexton and aggy. 

Still can’t believe Stoops gets 9 million a year to just stay afloat. 

[Tex Pete 20815]

6 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

Of all the insane shit about Aggy that I'll never understand, perhaps the one thing that is most mystifying is why they insist on being so declarative about shit that can be so easily factually disputed or disregarded based on historical performance.

This is how stupid people run shit. It's fucking absurd.

It is their culture.

It is who they are. That's why running away from Texas didn't work. They are incapable of "fixing themselves." They have to have everyone looking at them while they're being fucking weird.

[Sir Ulrich 5219]

There is zero evidence this will work based on his resume both before and after he became a head coach.

In 12 years with Dave Clawson they won 10 games and a conference title one time in 2013 at BGSU. Their biggest win during this time was over #16 Northern Illinois in the MAC championship game. 

In 1 year with Kelly at ND they were 10-3 with a citrus bowl win over LSU. Their best win was over a #11 USC led by Clay Helton. 

In 4 years with Fisher they had 1 good season at 9-1 in a year with only 1 good opponent which ran over them. Their best win was vs #1 Alabama who played for the CFP championship in 2021. 

In 2 years at Duke he has lost to Kansas, GT, UNC, Pitt, and Virginia who are all 8-4 or worse the last 2 years. His defining win was the worst Clemson team in 13 years. 

In 14 years of being a DC or HC he has finished ranked a grand total of 4 times with one top 10 finish. 

Charlie Strong had twice the resume Mike Elko has. 

[El Squared 1826]

Mike Elko averaged eight wins in two seasons at Duke. Aggies athletic director Ross Bjork says Texas A&M is 'not an 8-4 job.'

No, more likely now it will be a 7-5 or 6-6 job.

[MrBig 5495]

40 minutes ago, Blotto said:

That's one reason I'm interested in the contract details. They are already paying Jimbo through 2031 to the tune of $7.2M per. It would be peak aggy if they have to start making payments on 3 coaches in a few years. Just based on what top coaches are making these days and aggy desperately wanting the world to know how rich they are, I'd expect him in that $9M range to compare with Freshwater and Stoops. 

1. Nick Saban, Alabama (No. 1 overall): $11.407 million
2. Kirby Smart, Georgia (No. 3 overall): $10.706 million
3. Brian Kelly, LSU (No. 6 overall): $9.975 million
4. Jimbo Fisher, Texas A&M (No. 7 overall): $9.15 million
5. Mark Stoops, Kentucky (No. 8 overall): $9.014 million
6. Josh Heupel, Tennessee (No. 9 overall): $9 million
7. Lane Kiffin, Ole Miss (No. 10 overall): $9 million
8. Billy Napier, Florida (No. 16 overall): $7.27 million
9. Hugh Freeze, Auburn (No. 20 overall): $6.5 million
10. Sam Pittman, Arkansas (No. 22 overall): $6.358 million
11. Shane Beamer, South Carolina (No. 24 overall): $6.125 million
12. Eliah Drinkwitz, Missouri (No. 25 overall): $6 million
13. Clark Lea, Vanderbilt (No. 56 overall): $3.052 million
14. Zach Arnett, Mississippi State No. (58 overall): $3 million

I think Elko's agent is Sexton, so we all know who will win a negotiating battle between Sexton and aggy. 

Doesn’t Sexton rep ALL but one of the coaches in the SEC? That’s the whole damn list right here.

[Blotto 23635]

Just now, MrBig said:

Doesn’t Sexton rep ALL but one of the coaches in the SEC? That’s the whole damn list right here.

Sexton negotiated Stoops deal with aggy, and then when aggy went full aggy, he turned around the next day and negotiated Elko's deal. Wonder who had the leverage in that scenario? 

[Underdog 28855]

9 minutes ago, Constant said:

Still can’t believe Stoops gets 9 million a year to just stay afloat. 

Yeah, believe it…

 

[DanTheHorn 4971]

1 hour ago, statsman said:

We have one thing going for us. For the first time since Gundy became HC, he and his staff spent no time this past spring and summer watching Texas tape or gameplanning Texas. He has to start this week, just like Sark. 

What are you talking about the slow start was probably due to him game planning OU and Texas this offseason. He knew he would play OU and if he got here he would probably play Texas.

[NoName 16566]

1 hour ago, orangebird said:

Counterpoint: I would argue that David Cutcliffe laid a lot of the groundwork for Elko's success at Duke.  Cutcliffe was admittedly awful during his last few years at Duke, although I don't know that Elko was there long enough to get his own recruits into the system at Duke.  We just don't really have enough data to ascertain whether Elko could have sustained that success while at Duke.  Given that a substantial portion of Duke's current talent is moving on after this season, it's likely that Elko decided to strike while the iron is hot.  Does he have it in him to keep it going at aggy?  Guess we're about to find out.

this is a bad trajectory that started in 2016 then truly fell off in 2019

idk if he could have sustained the progress but the fact of that matter is that Elko won 9 games in 2022 and they won 10 total in 2019-2021 total

Edited November 27, 2023 by NoName

[Jasper_Jester 356]

When they say Aggie is not an 8-4 job they mean 8 AM to 4 PM.   

[NoName 16566]

53 minutes ago, Blotto said:

That's one reason I'm interested in the contract details. They are already paying Jimbo through 2031 to the tune of $7.2M per. It would be peak aggy if they have to start making payments on 3 coaches in a few years. Just based on what top coaches are making these days and aggy desperately wanting the world to know how rich they are, I'd expect him in that $9M range to compare with Freshwater and Stoops.

going back to 1950 their coaches have averaged 5.3 years. if you take out RC's 13 years they averaged 4.7

they have had more coaches there who have been there 4 or fewer seasons (7) than 5 or more years (6)

they have had exactly 1 coach since 1950 who was there for the 8 seasons Elko would need to be there for them to only pay 1 coach at a time - RC.

add in that they will get a new AD in the near future who will want his own guy and have a shorter leash for Elko than if he had hired him himself plus their history, and they are all but guaranteed to be paying 3 coaches at once before 2031.

[DanTheHorn 4971]

24 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

There is zero evidence this will work based on his resume both before and after he became a head coach.

In 12 years with Dave Clawson they won 10 games and a conference title one time in 2013 at BGSU. Their biggest win during this time was over #16 Northern Illinois in the MAC championship game. 

In 1 year with Kelly at ND they were 10-3 with a citrus bowl win over LSU. Their best win was over a #11 USC led by Clay Helton. 

In 4 years with Fisher they had 1 good season at 9-1 in a year with only 1 good opponent which ran over them. Their best win was vs #1 Alabama who played for the CFP championship in 2021. 

In 2 years at Duke he has lost to Kansas, GT, UNC, Pitt, and Virginia who are all 8-4 or worse the last 2 years. His defining win was the worst Clemson team in 13 years. 

In 14 years of being a DC or HC he has finished ranked a grand total of 4 times with one top 10 finish. 

Charlie Strong had twice the resume Mike Elko has. 

This reminds me of the Tom Herman hire based on him beating Oklahoma. Then you go watch that Oklahoma game and OU receivers are running wide open all game and OU is shooting itself in the foot with bad passes. I hated the Sarkisian hire due to his record and his WTF losses at Washington and USC.  Yet the one thing that gave me hope was he attempted to hire Muschamp and then hired PK. The PK hire was good because PKs numbers were good. That was very telling of Sark as a program builder.  So if Elko makes E. Rob the DC and hires buddies as assistants he will be on the Strong and Herman path.

Edited November 27, 2023 by DanTheHorn

[ousux 5607]

The "spending like a drunken sailor" analogy is kinda lame and played out, but I can't think of anything that suits aggy better.

Guy gets paid, has nothing else to spend it on so he goes to the club and buys rounds of shots for everyone, orders a couple bottles while flashing a roll of cash every chance he gets. At the end of the evening he gets righteously indigent he hasn't been invited to the invitation only VIP area in the back reserved for celebrities, friends and business associates of the owner and other people who have proven they can behave themselves back there.

aggy thinks they can buy their way into the club, but at the end of the evening nobody remembers the goober buying rounds for the house and the waitstaff wants to kick him out for cheapskate tipping.

[PTINS 3486]

2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Regarding this quote:

While true, it's far too flattering of A&M.  Over the last decade, here are the records of the 3 programs in question;

Michigan:  91/32 (0.74)

Michigan State:  74/49 (0.60)

Texas A&M:  77/47 (0.62)

 

For all intents & purposes, Texas A&M *IS* Michigan State

A&M has played 11 FCS teams since 2012, Mich St has played 4.

[Genco 3041]

2 hours ago, Macanudo said:

Everyone needs to remember that if they go 4-8 with wins over the powder puff squads and then us, they'll crow about it until the end of time.

And if they manage to overachieve and win a fifth game they'll rush the field.

Edited November 27, 2023 by Genco

[Beau Vine 54608]

1 hour ago, Blotto said:

I think Elko's agent is Sexton, so we all know who will win a negotiating battle between Sexton and aggy. 

Sexton is 1916 Georgia Tech.

aggy is Cumberland.

[Dennis Taylor 18968]

3 hours ago, Napoleon said:

No, they mythed out on Urban.

 

 

Was this lady a setup to get him fired?

Did the torpedo their own guy to get out of that contract?