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Not true. Rod Gilmore emphatically told me that Baylor was running at will in the 4th quarter. 

Exactly and I believe they were averaging 2.3 ypc and had 51 yards rushing when he said that because I looked it up. They ended up with 81 yards and a hefty 2.6 ypc. That’s just matador defense.
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45 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Straight from the grad transfer from A&M

 

Moved on? It was not like A&M was a typical topic of conversation before they left for the SEC either. I mean besides when we played them. I have discussed A&M far more in this thread than I ever did when I was at Texas.

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The truth is that The University of Texas is the standard in the state in every sense of the word.  This pisses them off.  They always have and always will to look up to who “Texas” is, has, and more importantly what the rest of the state and country view of us.

It’s truly is akin to a family unit that has a more talented kid.  The parents, coaches, teachers, and society in general will always view the greater sibling as superior.  This lives in the mind of the lesser to always be as good as the greater in attempt to outdo them.

This is who they are.  They will always compare themselves to Texas simply out of jealousy in an attempt to try and be better than Texas.  This is apparent with the switch in conference, their law school addition, and even more recently what they are doing to another sibling (Tech) with their vet school shenanigans. When their culture truly does change to work on improving themselves instead of worrying about Texas, then they will find their way on their own.  

Until then, they will always be second fiddle to Texas in everyone’s eyes including their own.  The toilet smurf talks about being in someone’s head rent free.  He is just to narcissistic to realize that it is us who lives in their heads daily for free.

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Saw a similar shirt to this last night, but I have seen it before.  It just reminded me to post it:

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I dont understand why they would want to get away from their identity, being they say they are proud of it.

Could you imagine the Louisiana Tigers? Florida Seminoles? Iowa Cyclones? Of course not. 

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12 minutes ago, markstanco said:

Saw a similar shirt to this last night, but I have seen it before.  It just reminded me to post it:

I dont understand why they would want to get away from their identity, being they say they are proud of it.

Could you imagine the Louisiana Tigers? Florida Seminoles? Iowa Cyclones? Of course not. 

I've explained this before but it's important so I'll do it again.

Aggies aren't unique. There are Aggies in many different states. And, yes, typically they hail from the less challenging university of the State where they reside. You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.

So the phrase "Texas Aggies" doesn't define them as Texas like they think it does. What it's really doing is letting people know which particular brand of Aggie that they are. It's not Aggies that's modifying Texas, it's Texas that is modifying Aggies in that two word description. They are Texas Aggies, which differentiates them from New Mexico Aggies, California Aggies, Oklahoma Aggies (even Okies realized that was synonymous with morons so now they're the Cowboys), Mississippi Aggies (also realized it, now Bulldogs), Michigan Aggies (again, now Spartans), UMass (also smarter than the Texas version, now the Minutemen), UConn (yep, now Huskies), North Carolina Aggies, Utah Aggies, Delaware Aggies, etc.

Their insistence on using that description reinforces both their need to feel more important than they are as well as their inability to recognize how entirely common they are and how special they aren't. It's perfect.

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9 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

I've explained this before but it's important so I'll do it again.

Aggies aren't unique. There are Aggies in many different states. And, yes, typically they hail from the less challenging university of the State where they reside. You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.

So the phrase "Texas Aggies" doesn't define them as Texas like they think it does. What it's really doing is letting people know which particular brand of Aggie that they are. It's not Aggies that's modifying Texas, it's Texas that is modifying Aggies in that two word description. They are Texas Aggies, which differentiates them from New Mexico Aggies, California Aggies, Oklahoma Aggies (even Okies realized that was synonymous with morons so now they're the Cowboys), Mississippi Aggies (also realized it, now Bulldogs), Michigan Aggies (again, now Spartans), UMass (also smarter than the Texas version, now the Minutemen), UConn (yep, now Huskies), North Carolina Aggies, Utah Aggies, Delaware Aggies, etc.

Their insistence on using that description reinforces both their need to feel more important than they are as well as their inability to recognize how entirely common they are and how special they aren't. It's perfect.

It's odd the relative focus on being Texas vs. maximizing what makes aggy aggy. Marketing 101: better to be a great "you" than a poor "them."

On one of those aggy or secsecsec boards, that super-crazy-delusional guy was talking about how it should take "A&M" out of its name since it is the state's flagship university. I still don't think that guy is real.

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Texas A&M University...and then you take out the A&M...you get Texas University. Huh.

Anyway they have been doing the 'Texas Aggies' forever and probably just for the reason mentioned, to distinguish them from all the other Aggies out there.

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Saw a similar shirt to this last night, but I have seen it before.  It just reminded me to post it:
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I dont understand why they would want to get away from their identity, being they say they are proud of it.
Could you imagine the Louisiana Tigers? Florida Seminoles? Iowa Cyclones? Of course not. 
Ahem. Florida Seminoles. Would y'all quit using this. It is a stupid example. There ARE Florida Seminoles. They are filthy rich as they own all the Hard Rock shit and a fuckton more casinos besides. They allow Florida State to use their name as a mascot.

There are NO "Texas Aggies". Therefore they are not rich, they own no casinos or hard rocks.

Ps There are also no "Florida Aggies" Florida and FAMU are the Florida ag schools. Florida is Gaytors and FAMU is Rattlers.

As always OU sucks.

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50 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Texas A&M University...and then you take out the A&M...you get Texas University. Huh.

Anyway they have been doing the 'Texas Aggies' forever and probably just for the reason mentioned, to distinguish them from all the other Aggies out there.

Thats the funny part. They all have shirts and caps that say 'Texas aggies', which makes them the real TU. They might be the dumbest fan base in college sports. 

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16 minutes ago, texaslong said:
Thats the funny part. They all have shirts and caps that say 'Texas aggies', which makes them the real TU. They might be the dumbest fan base in college sports. 

Might be?

Well, only the Sith deal in absolutes, so "might be" is probably the best way to go for everyone else.

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1 hour ago, markstanco said:

Saw a similar shirt to this last night, but I have seen it before.  It just reminded me to post it:

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I dont understand why they would want to get away from their identity, being they say they are proud of it.

Could you imagine the Louisiana Tigers? Florida Seminoles? Iowa Cyclones? Of course not. 

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It's odd the relative focus on being Texas vs. maximizing what makes aggy aggy. Marketing 101: better to be a great "you" than a poor "them."

On one of those aggy or secsecsec boards, that super-crazy-delusional guy was talking about how it should take "A&M" out of its name since it is the state's flagship university. I still don't think that guy is real.

Well, you do know that a few years ago, aggy admins decided that "A&M" no longer really stands for anything...I repeat, doesn't stand for anything....just two letters and an ampersand (and the first two letters of ampersand is.....a & m)!  So, I suppose A&M stands for nothing.  Typical aggy.

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2 minutes ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

Well, you do know that a few years ago, aggy admins decided that "A&M" no longer really stands for anything...I repeat, doesn't stand for anything....just two letters and an ampersand (and the first two letters of ampersand is.....a & m)!  So, I suppose A&M stands for nothing.  Typical aggy.

1963, actually

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The Jimbo Effect, start your engines: http://footballscoop.com/news/jimbo-effect-already-taking-place-texas/

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Last year, the FBS time of possession rankings was a Who’s Who of ball hoggers in major college football. Among the top seven, you had all three service academies, triple option mainstays Georgias Tech and Southern, plus Big Ten plodders Wisconsin and Michigan State.

A new program has emerged through the first weeks of 2018, though. After ranking 86th a year ago, Texas A&M has shot all the way up to third this year. Where the 2017 Aggies held the ball for 29:11 per game, this year’s bunch now keeps its offense on the field for nearly 36:40 of every 60 minutes.

This, of course, is all part of the plan.

Jimbo Fisher has jolted Texas A&M away from Kevin Sumlin’s up-tempo spread to a multifaceted, pro-style attack. This year’s Aggies run the ball three times more per game than last year’s bunch, but those runs account for nearly 50 more yards per game (from 155.62 to 204.29). Last year, the tight end position accounted for seven of the team’s 253 receptions all year. This year, Fisher brought in junior college tight end transfer Jace Sternberger, and he’s drawn midseason All-American honors while leading the team with 29 grabs for 496 yards and six touchdowns.

In 2017, tight ends caught 2.77 percent of all Aggie passes. This year, the same position now accounts for 20.95 percent of all completions.

But it’s about more than just how Fisher chooses to matriculate the ball down the field.

An offense that holds the ball so long has benefits that cascade throughout the rest of the team and the season.

The 2017 Aggie defense was on the field for 72.5 plays per game. That was 100th fewest nationally.

The 2018 Aggie defense? 54.4 plays per game. That’s 17th fewest nationally.

A game-by-game look shows, after the opener against FCS Northwestern State, how eerily consistent the Aggie offense has been in terms of total plays run.

Team Plays Opponent Plays
Texas A&M 96 Northwestern State 48
Texas A&M 72 Clemson 59
Texas A&M 72 ULM 57
Texas A&M 72 Alabama 61
Texas A&M 72 Arkansas 53
Texas A&M 75* Kentucky 50
Texas A&M 77 South Carolina 53
Total 536 Total 381

 

* The Kentucky game went to overtime; A&M ran 71 plays in regulation.

The Aggie offense’s successful ball hogging has had an interesting benefit for Mike Elko’s defense. The 2017 A&M defense was actually better than this year’s unit on a per play basis (5.63 in 2017; 5.94 in 2018). But it hasn’t mattered, because the Aggies are now defending 18 fewer plays per game, which means A&M’s total defense average has improved significantly, from 408.5 yards per game in 2017 to 323.3 this year.

As a result, Fisher’s staff has lopped 10 points per game off A&M’s scoring defense average, from 30.7 to 20.6.

But wait, there’s more!

A&M fired Sumlin largely because his teams fell apart in the second half of almost every season, especially once Johnny Manziel left. The 2014 A&M team started 5-0 and rose to No. 6 in the polls; they finished 8-5 and unranked.

A year later was almost the same story: A 5-0 start and No. 9 ranking turned into an unranked 8-5 finish.

In 2016, A&M started 6-0 and No. 6; they finished 8-5 and unranked.

2017? A 4-1 start wilted into a 7-5 finish before Sumlin was fired after the regular season.

There were a number of reasons for those repeated collapses, but chief among them was the defense was simply worn out by the time November arrived. Nowhere was this more evident than the LSU game. The Aggies are 0-6 against the Tigers since joining the SEC; five of those games came in November, and the last four on Thanksgiving weekend. Here are LSU’s rushing totals in those five games:

2013: 55 carries for 324 yards and 2 TDs
2014: 57 carries for 384 yards and 1 TD
2015: 47 carries for 244 yards and 2 TDs
2016: 46 carries for 298 yards and 5 TDs
2017: 56 carries for 250 yards and 2 TDs

The LSU game plan has always been the same because it’s always worked: run straight at an undermanned, injured and exhausted A&M front.

In 2018, Texas A&M won’t have that problem.

Where last year’s team defended 846 plays over its 12-game regular season, this year’s team is on pace to defend only 653. That’s not only 18 fewer plays per game, it’s nearly 200 fewer plays per season.

Over the course of a 12-game season, the 2018 Aggie defense is essentially only playing nine games when compared to previous seasons.

Again, this is all part of the plan.

That doesn’t mean it’s foolproof, though.

There’s nothing revolutionary about this tactic. There isn’t supposed to be. If the other team doesn’t have the ball, they can’t score and if they can’t score, they can’t win. That’s kindergarten math by football standards.

This strategy works for the 2018 Aggies because he’s re-tooling a roster of players recruited to out-run the plodding SEC West. The equation has changed, specifically in Tuscaloosa. In their Sept. 22 game at Bryant-Denny Stadium, the Aggies ran 11 more plays and held the ball for five more minutes, but it didn’t matter because Alabama’s 61 plays went for three yards a pop more than Texas A&M’s 72 plays, 8.6 to 5.5. The Tide out-gained the Aggies 524-393 and out-scored them 45-23.

As Fisher stocks the A&M roster with more of his type of recruits, it would benefit the Aggies to speed things up.

At Florida State, a common critique of Fisher was that his deliberate place diluted the Seminoles’ talent advantage. In theory, if you have the more talented team you want to run as many plays as possible, thus giving more opportunity for your superiorly talented players to separate from their less-talented opponents. The reverse is also true, in theory. To use an extreme example: a Division II team would have a much better chance to hang with Alabama over a 6-minute game than the standard 60 minutes.

But that’s a problem for another season.

In 2018, Jimbo is maximizing his team’s chance to win by controlling the ball and keeping his defense off the field as much as possible. It’s worked so far. The Aggies are 5-2 and ranked No. 17 in the AP poll.

Of course, the first half of the season was never the problem.

A&M’s final five games offers interesting mix of five winnable games and five losable games:

at No. 22 Mississippi State
at Auburn
vs. Ole Miss
vs. UAB
vs. No. 5 LSU

We know how a Kevin Sumlin team would probably do against this slate. The Aggies would probably be 7-5 or 8-4 and play in mid-tier bowl game.

But this year’s team has a great shot to wind up at 9-3 or 10-2. Now you’re talking about a top-10 or top-15 ranking and a New Year’s Day bowl game — maybe even a Sugar Bowl reunion with Texas.

And the Jimbo Effect is a big reason why.

 

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The Aggie offense’s successful ball hogging has had an interesting benefit for Mike Elko’s defense. The 2017 A&M defense was actually better than this year’s unit on a per play basis (5.63 in 2017; 5.94 in 2018). But it hasn’t mattered, because the Aggies are now defending 18 fewer plays per game, which means A&M’s total defense average has improved significantly

Yeah, about that. A&M is defending fewer plays because it defends fewer possessions because it has fewer of its own offensive possessions. Last year, aggy scoring average was 33.4, good for #25. This year they clock in so far at 27.8, good for #61. So there is ball-hogging, and there is ball-slogging.

On 10/18/17, aggy was 5-2 with 5 remaining games including against MSU, Auburn, Ole Miss, and LSU. As of 10/18/18, aggy is 5-2 with 5 remaining games including against MSU, Auburn, Ole Miss, and LSU. SEC teams not named Bama are generally beatable, so aggy might stumble to a 9-3 record. But so far it is hard for me to see unequivocal evidence they are much better.

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Well, you do know that a few years ago, aggy admins decided that "A&M" no longer really stands for anything...I repeat, doesn't stand for anything....just two letters and an ampersand (and the first two letters of ampersand is.....a & m)!  So, I suppose A&M stands for nothing.  Typical aggy.
Naw it stands for assholes & morons.
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