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I first encountered BI 13-0 back when these boards got going, in the mid to late ‘90s. That was a weird time; the Ags had a 11 year stretch where they beat Texas 10 times and pretty much dominated a dying SWC. 
 
In that context, an excessively braggadocious Ag didn’t seem so innately fucked up. 
 
But, he carried the bit on and on, after 11-3 years became 8-4 years became 5-6 years. He became a parody. 

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4 minutes ago, statsman said:

I first encountered BI 13-0 back when these boards got going, in the mid to late ‘90s. That was a weird time; the Ags had a 11 year stretch where they beat Texas 10 times and pretty much dominated a dying SWC. 
 
In that context, an excessively braggadocious Ag didn’t seem so innately fucked up. 
 
But, he carried the bit on and on, after 11-3 years became 8-4 years became 5-6 years. He became a parody. 

There are people here (or who used to be on shaggy, anyway) who hung out with him and liked him. I am not one of those people.

I think he was a true redass and he fried his brain with drugs and alcohol. His schtick was funny to a point.

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49 minutes ago, statsman said:

I first encountered BI 13-0 back when these boards got going, in the mid to late ‘90s. That was a weird time; the Ags had a 11 year stretch where they beat Texas 10 times and pretty much dominated a dying SWC. 
 
In that context, an excessively braggadocious Ag didn’t seem so innately fucked up. 
 
But, he carried the bit on and on, after 11-3 years became 8-4 years became 5-6 years. He became a parody. 

He was a big pusher of the Coach February mantra and then it made him absolutely crazy when Coach February started kicking the aggies' asses on the reg.

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the pat persona bitching about not getting in in 2020:

One of the most controversial times in recent Texas A&M football history was the CFP selection process in 2020.  The Aggies, bearing only one loss at the time while boasting a top-5 win over Florida and double-digit wins in every game but three, looked like the model college football playoff participant.  In fact, Jimbo Fisher took the opportunity following the Aggies' final game of the year to stump for A&M.  As he mentioned, no one-loss SEC team had ever been left out of the playoff— even those that didn't participate in the SEC championship game. And with an all-SEC schedule that year, A&M's slate had been tougher than ever.  But a strange thing happened. The CFP committee put in Notre Dame, who had just been waxed by a full-strength Clemson Tigers team, over the Aggies.  ND had won at home against Clemson earlier in the year when DJ Uiagalelei had been starting for Dabo Swinney's squad, but once Trevor Lawrence returned, the game between the Irish and Tigers was no contest.  Aggie fans, at that point, cried discrimination— A&M's record recommended the Aggies far more than the Irish's record recommended them. Yet, it was ND who made the playoff— and they were destroyed by Alabama.  In the profit-driven world of college football, it's hard not to become cynical about that kind of thing.  Notre Dame was less deserving, but considered by some to be a better TV draw. With that in mind, is it any coincidence that they were put in over the Aggies?  You may say so, but I'd challenge anyone to watch this clip of Kirk Herbstreit and continue in that line of thought.

narrator: bama destroyed aggy 52-24

 

 

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In some ways, I envy the younger fans who came along in the ‘95 season and later. That 1984-1994 stretch didn’t just warp Ag self regard, it did a number on Texas as well. 
 
from late November 1984 thru the same in 1994, the Ags went 106-26-2 for a near .800 win rate, while Texas went 72-54-2 over the same period. They represented the SWC in the Cotton Bowl six times, and were barred from contention by the NCAA two other times. Their program was built on cheating in recruiting and dominating weak programs (in 1992, they went 12-1. They played one ranked team the whole year-FSU in the Cotton Bowl- and were drilled, pushing them out of the top five). 
 
All of the Aggie braggadocio is based on two things- that 11 year stretch (which keeps receding farther and farther back in time) and being in the SEC (which they now share with Texas). They haven’t figured it out yet, so I don’t know that they ever will. 

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18 minutes ago, statsman said:

In some ways, I envy the younger fans who came along in the ‘95 season and later. That 1984-1994 stretch didn’t just warp Ag self regard, it did a number on Texas as well. 
 
from late November 1984 thru the same in 1994, the Ags went 106-26-2 for a near .800 win rate, while Texas went 72-54-2 over the same period. They represented the SWC in the Cotton Bowl six times, and were barred from contention by the NCAA two other times. Their program was built on cheating in recruiting and dominating weak programs (in 1992, they went 12-1. They played one ranked team the whole year-FSU in the Cotton Bowl- and were drilled, pushing them out of the top five). 
 
All of the Aggie braggadocio is based on two things- that 11 year stretch (which keeps receding farther and farther back in time) and being in the SEC (which they now share with Texas). They haven’t figured it out yet, so I don’t know that they ever will. 

Username fits.

 

Being on the 40 in the 1st half of your window indeed sucked ass from a football perspective. Other parts of that time frame were awesome though. 

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16 hours ago, utee94 said:

Now that's a sentiment I can get behind!

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I swear to God ASU has the hottest chicks of any xollege. Maybe if their academics weren't so had. I may have chosen to go there.Instead.

2 hours ago, AP101S said:

Aggie Yell Leaders getting a head start for next season.

 

What in God's holy name did I just watch  

2 hours ago, statsman said:

I first encountered BI 13-0 back when these boards got going, in the mid to late ‘90s. That was a weird time; the Ags had a 11 year stretch where they beat Texas 10 times and pretty much dominated a dying SWC. 
 
In that context, an excessively braggadocious Ag didn’t seem so innately fucked up. 
 
But, he carried the bit on and on, after 11-3 years became 8-4 years became 5-6 years. He became a parody. 

And to think all those bags didn'them anywhere close the NC. Talk about shitty ROI.  But that's the aggy way. 

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1 hour ago, statsman said:

That 1984-1994 stretch didn’t just warp Ag self regard, it did a number on Texas as well. 

It stung for sure, but I don't know that it really "did a number" on us.  To me it always felt like the universe was temporarily out of balance and that the natural order would eventually be restored.  It was a brief trip to Bizarro world that never felt like reality.  Somehow, deep in my plums, I never doubted that a) aggy was cheating, and that b) they would revert to sucking once caught.  

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8 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

It stung for sure, but I don't know that it really "did a number" on us.  To me it always felt like the universe was temporarily out of balance and that the natural order would eventually be restored.

I was at the 1984 game, and every home game since.  We were riding a 3-game winning streak against A&M, and there was a palpable "WTF?" reaction to that 37-12 beatdown.  Average fans like me didn't realize how Jackie Sherrill was building that team.  In the ensuing years, it quickly became apparent.

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1 hour ago, statsman said:

In some ways, I envy the younger fans who came along in the ‘95 season and later. That 1984-1994 stretch didn’t just warp Ag self regard, it did a number on Texas as well. 
 
from late November 1984 thru the same in 1994, the Ags went 106-26-2 for a near .800 win rate, while Texas went 72-54-2 over the same period. They represented the SWC in the Cotton Bowl six times, and were barred from contention by the NCAA two other times. Their program was built on cheating in recruiting and dominating weak programs (in 1992, they went 12-1. They played one ranked team the whole year-FSU in the Cotton Bowl- and were drilled, pushing them out of the top five). 
 
All of the Aggie braggadocio is based on two things- that 11 year stretch (which keeps receding farther and farther back in time) and being in the SEC (which they now share with Texas). They haven’t figured it out yet, so I don’t know that they ever will. 

This sucked for middle to early high school me. Every year I had a friend who showed up with a football preview magazine about how great the aggies were.

Which made 1995, when we were attending our respective schools, so much sweeter -- the first, and last, game I attended at College Station. Ricky and Shon ran all over the "best defense in the country."

And I looked somewhat like this when we met back up afterwards and he walked in:

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2 hours ago, statsman said:

In some ways, I envy the younger fans who came along in the ‘95 season and later. That 1984-1994 stretch didn’t just warp Ag self-regard, it did a number on Texas as well. 
 
from late November 1984 thru the same in 1994, the Ags went 106-26-2 for a near .800 win rate, while Texas went 72-54-2 over the same period. They represented the SWC in the Cotton Bowl six times, and were barred from contention by the NCAA two other times. Their program was built on cheating in recruiting and dominating weak programs (in 1992, they went 12-1. They played one ranked team the whole year-FSU in the Cotton Bowl- and were drilled, pushing them out of the top five). 
 
All of the Aggie braggadocio is based on two things- that 11-year stretch (which keeps receding farther and farther back in time) and being in the SEC (which they now share with Texas). They haven’t figured it out yet, so I don’t know that they ever will. 

Only reason Aggy didn't get the Death Penalty was because of the Repercussions it had on SMU athletics. The NCAA didn't want to do that again any time soon and not to a major program. At one time Aggy was on major probations in three major sports and were the poster child of lack of institutional control which was the definition for getting it. They were constantly on probation during this time of dominance, tried to follow the OU plan, but wasn't nearly as successful.

From the LA Times:
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Texas A&M; Banned From Bowl and TV for One Year : College football: NCAA penalty is lighter than one Pac-10 imposed on Washington.

By DANNY ROBBINS
Jan. 6, 1994 12 AM PT
TIMES STAFF WRITER

The NCAA sent a stern message Wednesday to one of its oft-troubled members, Texas A&M;, taking the unusual step of placing the school on probation for five years as a result of rules violations involving the Aggies’ football program.

Only two other schools--Southeastern Louisiana and Upsala College--have received probationary periods of a similar duration from the NCAA.

Despite the lengthy probation, Texas A&M; was given relatively light sanctions by the NCAA Committee on Infractions, which issued its ruling after a yearlong investigation by the NCAA enforcement staff and university officials.

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The Aggie football team was barred from playing in a bowl game or appearing on television during the 1994 season. However, Texas A&M; was spared other sanctions, such as cuts in scholarships and recruiting visits.

Texas A&M; players were found to have benefited from a scheme in which a booster arranged jobs requiring little or no work.

A similar scheme was a central element of the Pacific 10 Conference’s case against Washington last year. That case resulted in a ruling by the conference in which the Huskies were barred from bowl appearances for two seasons.

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The Aggies, Southwest Conference champions the last three years, finished the 1993 season 10-2 after a 24-21 loss to Notre Dame in the Cotton Bowl.

Speaking at a news conference in College Station, Tex., E. Dean Gage, the university’s interim president, said: “This issue is a single, isolated case, and we regret that this incident will impact negatively thousands . . . who were in no way involved and who are totally committed and supportive of the university’s compliance and institutional control.”

Texas A&M; Coach R.C. Slocum told reporters he was pleased to have the matter resolved because of the recruiting implications.

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“We don’t have to hear all the wild speculation and innuendo,” he said.

Nine Aggie players, including star tailback Greg Hill, were found to have received nearly $18,000 in unearned wages from 1990-92 as a result of their employment at apartment complexes operated by Warren A. Gilbert Jr., a Dallas developer. Gilbert was president of the university’s athletic support group--the 12th Man Foundation--at the time the infractions occurred.

The NCAA also found that the university showed a lack of institutional control over its football program by failing to monitor appropriately its jobs program for athletes.

The ruling marks the seventh time that Texas A&M; has received public sanctions because of athletic rules violations--a factor in the Committee on Infractions’ decision to impose such a lengthy probationary period.

The NCAA placed the Aggie football program on two years' probation in 1988 for infractions that occurred during the coaching tenure of Jackie Sherrill, who was later forced to resign.

Texas A&M; could have received the NCAA’s so-called “death penalty” for repeat violators, and, according to the Committee on Infractions’ report, the panel gave serious consideration to applying such a sanction. However, the committee backed off because of several factors, including the relatively limited scope of the infractions and the university’s attempt to investigate fully.

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3 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

There are people here (or who used to be on shaggy, anyway) who hung out with him and liked him. I am not one of those people.

I think he was a true redass and he fried his brain with drugs and alcohol. His schtick was funny to a point.

Yeah.  He had issues with pills and booze.  He looked a lot older than his age because of that.  

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2 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

It stung for sure, but I don't know that it really "did a number" on us.  To me it always felt like the universe was temporarily out of balance and that the natural order would eventually be restored.  It was a brief trip to Bizarro world that never felt like reality.  Somehow, deep in my plums, I never doubted that a) aggy was cheating, and that b) they would revert to sucking once caught.  

The universe was certainly out of balance, there were massive weed shortages and the crap coming up from the southern border was full of seeds and smelled like gasoline.   Shaped like a semi gas tank.  
 

Found a bum on Guadalupe that had kaleidoscope paper LSD and “Thai stick”, both tasted like kerosene.  Meanwhile, the Aggies were rolling us yet Peter gardere beat OU every year.  Now weed is practically legal and none of it comes from Mexico, Aggies have reverted to 8-4; Texas is in the semifinals for the second straight year, and OU fucking sucks.  So the universe has righted itself..

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While we play in the big tomorrow, it shall be just another Friday Night in collie station.
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No, it will be the penultimate day before the start of the biggest recruiting weekend ever, where aggy will sit and watch their SEC brethren beat the might Buckeyes of Oh-hi-oh and talk about how they were a few wins away from being in the same spot. All at the Northgate entertainment destinationest place in all of Texas.
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