Tell Me About Texas a&m

[Laxtonto 11772]

So, let’s just say they do promote Robinson. Is he forced to keep the staff? Are we really about to run back this same shitshow but only replace Jimbo?

If not, where are his contacts to build a staff? They desperately need to get rid of the rot at OL, TE, WR, and QB coaches. Does Robinson just rely on Petrino to fill it with “his” guys? Does anyone trust him enough to not turn this into a neponistic shitshow?

What about on D? So they go chalk with how bad large swaths of that staff is? If he makes replacements, where do they come from? It’s not like he has major connections outside of the current staff?

So  it’s riding with the same ole retreads  or it’s relying on his minimal level of contacts to build a Turtle Tom equivalent staff or they are going to rely on what Durkin and Petrino can bring in….

 

Get the popcorn ready…

[Pancho 42091]

It’s aggy—they told potential candidates they had to keep Robinson. What coach wants to walk into a situation where he’s being told he has to keep certain members of the staff and not build his own staff, one who he is personally comfortable with and believes gives him the best chance to be successful? 

It’s like the idiots who were saying whoever we hired for basketball should keep Terry as an assistant. What big time coach would agree to being told what to do with their staff? 

Robinson would accept the job with those types of conditions because he’s never been a HC before and maybe wants the opportunity. I don’t think he’s even been a coordinator. 

This is a shit show, and I’m warming up some of my mom’s pecan pie from turkey day and will be eating that while following along 😎

[Enchubben 5492]

Yea that’s a real problem. You’re either behind Robinson and you let him fire and hire new staff, or you need to bring in someone new and let them make their own staff. This trying to find a new figurehead while keeping everything else in place doesn’t work for a lot of reasons.

If you try to just stick with Robinson and the rest of the current staff for a year or two while you make a better long term hire you may keep a few kids this year, but your next two recruiting classes are setup for failure when you do make the next HC hire making it that much harder for him to succeed. That may be the best scenario for them at this point if they can’t pull off the gamble on an Elko or Traylor. 

[Hornsome 189]

Stoops>>>Traylor . Stoops is an experienced SEC coach. However trying to lock up Stoops means they have been turned down a lot.  

 

Traylor is their automatic “school” choice and looking like he will be it. No way he turns them down to stay at UTSA or wait for the likes of Baylor or Cougar high.

[ousux 5566]

I went to bed laughing at aggie for hiring Mark Stoops, then wake up and find out the shit show has only just begun? They've really outdone themselves here.

I stayed awake long enough to learn the Stoops thing was blown up by fan outrage and possibly screwed things up with Fisch. Totally worth the lost sleep

[Nice Guy Eddie 13289]

My guess that to save face A&M will give a coach the largest contract and buyout in history. And claim this was their plan all along.

[ABSR 5272]

10 hours ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

What you want...and what you get...is two different things.

Just like you don’t quit your current job without having a new one lined up, aggy had to have had Jimbo’s replacement lined up before firing him.  Right!?   Right.     right …….

[ousux 5566]

I still don’t understand this idea that aggy is flush with cash. Where is it coming from if true?

A printing press in Qatar?

[Pancho 42091]

Glorious (and Bomani is a UT fan and has been critical of UT when we were in our shit years)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Neonmoon 38126]

Aggy is requiring the HC to keep assistants because they can’t afford their buyouts. 

[Rickylovesweed 14077]

9 minutes ago, Hornsome said:

Stoops>>>Traylor . Stoops is an experienced SEC coach. However trying to lock up Stoops means they have been turned down a lot.  

 

Traylor is their automatic “school” choice and looking like he will be it. No way he turns them down to stay at UTSA or wait for the likes of Baylor or Cougar high.

It doesn't sound like they had any interest in Traylor. It's going to be Elko or Robinson. 

[Nicole44 21941]

2 minutes ago, Hornsome said:

Stoops>>>Traylor . Stoops is an experienced SEC coach. However trying to lock up Stoops means they have been turned down a lot.  

 

Traylor is their automatic “school” choice and looking like he will be it. No way he turns them down to stay at UTSA or wait for the likes of Baylor or Cougar high.

Aranda has the look of a man that just figured out Waco is Stephen King’s version of Derry, Maine. Traylor won’t head there. Maybe UofH since in the past it’s been a stepping stone. But I wonder if schools looking to pull the trigger on firing their coach and making a hire before December 4th decided not to after seeing the fallout from this. 

[GreenspointTexas 9365]

GJ Kinne would be a better option than Robinson

[tvko23 67]

6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

It’s aggy—they told potential candidates they had to keep Robinson. What coach wants to walk into a situation where he’s being told he has to keep certain members of the staff and not build his own staff, one who he is personally comfortable with and believes gives him the best chance to be successful?

It's truly amazing short-term thinking. And I think it's driven by their attaching infinite importance to the game with us next year. Having a shot in that game has become the organizing, if unconscious, principle of their coaching search -- keep the Best Recruiting Class Ever intact to take down sip. 

In other words, aggy fails the marshmallow test.

[Pancho 42091]

And yes, aggy is getting massacred by media today for a.) doing what they did to Stoops (I guess he’s pretty well liked) and b.) acting uppity about their coach when they have nothing that says they are that type of program.

 

[Rickylovesweed 14077]

15 minutes ago, Pancho said:

It’s aggy—they told potential candidates they had to keep Robinson. 

It's definitely more than Robinson. 

Liucci has been insinuating they want to keep the entire defensive staff for weeks. 

[Earl Haffler 568]

Why don't they just promote Petrino an be done with it???

[ousux 5566]

aggy should sever all ties with Liucci and run him out of town with Bjork. 

aggy can't quit Billy any more than he can quit them. The aggy masses have been pissed at Billy before, this too shall pass.

[Horn Dogg 3726]

1 minute ago, tvko23 said:

It's truly amazing short-term thinking. And I think it's driven by their attaching infinite importance to the game with us next year. Having a shot in that game has become the organizing, if unconscious, principle of their coaching search -- keep the Best Recruiting Class Ever intact to take down sip. 

In other words, aggy fails the marshmallow test.

With this level of turmoil bound to go on for a while, I’m thinking we will demolish aggy next year.

[JOSEYWALES66 1780]

1 minute ago, Rickylovesweed said:

It's definitely more than Robinson. 

Liucci has been insinuating they want to keep the entire defensive staff for weeks. 

And this is why they are fucking up the hire.    New coaches shouldn’t be given stipulations on their staff.  

[Texasrocks 2110]

Luckily for aggy, there isn't one agent with a near monopoly on top tier coaches who knows first hand what went down between them and Stoops.

[Rockethorn1978 6059]

[PTINS 3419]

9 hours ago, Pancho said:

Yup, getting out now—no Stoops. Thamel reporting it, and Looch (lol) confirmed the Kentucky guy’s tweet.

Ho.

Le. 

Shit

"Did we to get a new Aggy Head Coach?

Som Tee Wong.

"Did we put up enough money to get a new Aggy Head Coach?"

We Too Loo.

[Laga4 1270]

11 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Traylor is their automatic “school” choice and looking like he will be it. No way he turns them down to stay at UTSA or wait for the likes of Baylor or Cougar high.

Someone on this thread made the case for Taylor to Cougar High that made sense.

He could clean up on the 2nd tier recruits and maybe snag a few top tier guys in the Houston and East Texas area and put together a pretty good team without having to worry about the Bull Shit at A&M.  He could pad his resume and his choices would be a lot better than they are now.  

Baylor,  no.

Edited November 26, 2023 by Laga4

[tvko23 67]

2 minutes ago, Horn Dogg said:

With this level of turmoil bound to go on for a while, I’m thinking we will demolish aggy next year.

We are their matchup nightmare. The only allegedly competent part of their team is the defensive line and Banks, Williams, Campbell, Hutson will be third-year players.

[Dennis Taylor 18549]

33 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

aggy logo on there would be the 

[atomheartbevo 88856]

24 minutes ago, Mac8111 said:

I missed what happened on Gameday. Update?

They told aggy’s new coach to “come on down”

[WBT 20147]

3 minutes ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

And this is why they are fucking up the hire.    New coaches shouldn’t be given stipulations on their staff.  

Well...

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

23 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

What about on D? So they go chalk with how bad large swaths of that staff is? If he makes replacements, where do they come from? It’s not like he has major connections outside of the current staff?

We were out of state when it happened, but upon returning and catching up on news, I recollect reading that one of their long time defensive coaches passed away. That may have added to their issues.

[MonkeyDoughnut 9944]

Aggy backed themselves into corner now. Any candidates now knows they hold a ton more leverage. It's just money and aggy about to have to overpay again.

[Laxtonto 11772]

1 minute ago, Laga4 said:

Someone on this thread made the case for Taylor to Cougar High that made sense.

He could clean up on the 2nd tier recruits and maybe snag a few top tier guys in the Houston and East Texas area and put together a pretty good team without having to worry about the Bull shit at A&M.  He could pad his resume and his choices would be a lot better than they are now.  

Baylor,  no.

Well, with how things are going right now with Holgo and UH, this would very well be the case in the next 2 weeks.  Traylor aint jumping on the UH job while A&M could potentially throw a truck full of cash at him next week. Once the aggy foolishness is taken care of, then Traylor can back channel UH, so UH can dismiss Holgo and bring in Traylor within the hour.

[Dennis Taylor 18549]

16 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Glorious (and Bomani is a UT fan and has been critical of UT when we were in our shit years)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The common denominator is none of those other schools are aggy...and all that that implies

 

[Pimphand 5502]

6 minutes ago, WBT said:

Well...

 

[victory88 5641]

Aggy does not have the money for a big time coach and the funny part is they are 1 reason why most of these coaches are making 9-10 mil bc they gave a stupid ridiculous contract to a 5-7 jimbo fisher at FSU.  Not not only do they need to pay Jimbo his 7 mil a year, they need another 8-10 mil to hire any decent power 5 coach.  They cannot even afford to buy out their assistants.  Aggy does not have unlimited resources.  Their NiL, facilities, and coaching hire will be hindered bc of this stupid contract.  What coach is going to sign up for this shit show knowing Bjork is lined up on the execution squad and will have a new AD that did not hire said potential candidate.  As much as Texas has fucked up coaching hire, this is a new level of dumpster fire.  Their donors and administration are fighting between themselves.  So happy Texas has climbed its way out of the same situation.  Aggy is going to be fucked for a solid 10 years.  Their entire roster is built on their D-line.  It took us damn near 2 decades to fix our OL issues.  They look to be just as bad and not sure how they plan to fix that without firing an OL coach like Flood and have NiL ready like we did.  I love the aggy misery.  Poor aggy bitches.  10 year head start in the SEC and we are about to beat that ass next year.

[Daichee Bell 2925]

It’s like there is a legislative ban against bringing a Stoops across state lines.

We blew up mike as our lb coach, and now this.

[Laga4 1270]

2 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

Well, with how things are going right now with Holgo and UH, this would very well be the case in the next 2 weeks.  Traylor aint jumping on the UH job while A&M could potentially throw a truck full of cash at him next week. Once the aggy foolishness is taken care of, then Traylor can back channel UH, so UH can dismiss Holgo and bring in Traylor within the hour.

I agree money talks,  and Taylor would probably take the aggy job.  

However, it seems like every time the coaches get fired the question is always who are we going to get to replace him?  If Traylor gets good recruits and wins at Cougar High he will be the answer to that question and be able to pick where he wants to go.  

[MrX 683]

We are soooooo close to Ag Head Coach Bobby Petrino. 

[Jive Turkey 12278]

47 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Nothing more glorious than being 11-1, going to the Big 12 champ game, while aggy is imploding and OU is sitting at home because their in-state little brother dashed their hopes with a big comeback last night to shatter their CCG dreams 

Yep.  We just destroyed Tech by 50.  We gave the world a glimpse of our future QB1 (Arch fucking Manning).  We’re busy discussing  our possible paths to the college football playoff while on the cusp of winning the conference title.

Meanwhile, aggy is still recovering from being the laughingstock of college football because of that ridiculous contract they gave Jimbo and the money they owe him to not coach.  Now they’re on their fifth or sixth HC candidate (because no respectable coach wants to take that job), and they can’t agree on who that should be.  So they’re most likely gonna hire the interim coach who just got blasted by LSU.  They’re gonna go with a DC who has no previous head coaching experience to be the guy that leads them in the first year that Texas and OU join the SEC.

Just when you think aggy can’t out-aggy themselves, they come up with even more insane ways.

[TOR 5059]

They won't have a choice but to name petrino as head corch with robinson as co-whatever.  Nobody is going to take that job after they bungled and humiliated themselves (again) and stoops.  

[oh_snap 692]

If the rumors about bjork going rogue are true, that level of self sabotage must mean he is also tired of aggy’s shit and intentionally trying to get fired himself. For his sake (and ours lulz too) I really hope he has the same guaranteed buyout contract language as jimbo. 
I also don’t see how any non-desperate coach takes a job with uncertainty at the AD role. What a giant glorious mess. 

[Pimphand 5502]

Love the TexAgs posters patting themselves on the back for saving Aggie football last night.

MessageBoardGeniuses is going to have a field day

[BigHornedLurker 1881]

I said a few days ago but if you're forcing a HC to keep most of the staff you are already down like 3 tiers of coaches.

This has already reached Tennesse Schiano levels of hilarity, and Aggy is trapped in a real prisoners dilemma. 

The soup of variables are lack of cash, potentially exiting AD due to the stoops situation , wanting to keep E Rob to keep players, and pressing timeliness for clearly all of this up for signing day while coaches are coming off the board or being turned off from this shit show. 

IMO best remaining move is to promote E Rob , and learn from this for the inevitable search 2 years from now .

What Aggy will likely do is hire a mid coach , maybe Traylor if he's getting itchy or gets bad advise, doesn't matter. E Rob still leaves because he feels jilted, taking some of the defensive staff and players they wanted to keep in the first place. And then whatever mid coach having to hire a mid defensive staff .

 

 

[TrashMaster G 17269]

1 hour ago, Deej said:

No fun, but it would be in their best interest. TexAgs is a cancer for them.

There is no evidence that aggy has the institutional self-awareness to make the changes they really need to make in order to be successful at the level they think they should.

That is what makes them so easy to laugh at.

[Texasrocks 2110]

1 minute ago, MrX said:

We are soooooo close to Ag Head Coach Bobby Petrino. 

He fits the profile the need to fill. He was once good enough that they could get excited about the possibility of future success, no matter how unlikely. Has no viable alternatives so would take the job. It seems like a match made in heaven.

[Biff Tannen 44977]

4 minutes ago, oh_snap said:

If the rumors about bjork going rogue are true, that level of self sabotage must mean he is also tired of aggy’s shit and intentionally trying to get fired himself. For his sake (and ours lulz too) I really hope he has the same guaranteed buyout contract language as jimbo. 
I also don’t see how any non-desperate coach takes a job with uncertainty at the AD role. What a giant glorious mess. 

[Trey3216 15306]

48 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Live look at Bjork’s office:

Gonna be hilarious when they fire him and find out that he’s put a $20mm guaranteed salary addendum into his own contract under their noses.  

[tx ind 6863]

On 12/9/2022 at 5:54 PM, tx ind said:

Calling my shot- they're secretly raising cash to dump Jimbo in a year and will back door Petrino into the job who will in turn fuck up again and it will be a fiasco.

 

Called this a year ago, they're so predictable

Edited November 26, 2023 by tx ind

[SaucyJack 3470]

New Player

 

[Hornsome 189]

Uniquely qualified = only one we could get?
 

 

[Horn Dogg 3726]

24 minutes ago, tvko23 said:

We are their matchup nightmare. The only allegedly competent part of their team is the defensive line and Banks, Williams, Campbell, Hutson will be third-year players.

I can’t fucking wait!