Tell Me About Texas a&m

Native Horn · January 19

1 hour ago, 83Horn said:

Ya know??? Where's the embarrassment emoji? Some days the coffee just doesn't work it's magic.

I like the idea of an embarrassment emoji.

TOR · January 19

14 minutes ago, Native Horn said:

I like the idea of an embarrassment emoji.

?

Guadaloopy · January 19

2 hours ago, YGIFS said:

There are some unbelievably impressive ROTC students at UT that I interact with and while I'm thankful they're Longhorns, sometimes I think "How in the world are you not at the USNA? You're half my age, twice as smart, and I'd follow you across the Atlantic without hesitation."

When I was going through the ROTC scholarship application process, the recruiter asked me why I wasn't applying to the Academy. Told him first off, I'm going to Texas. And second, I wanted the college experience. Third, I would have plenty of military experience in the near future and didn't need to play the part in school any more than minimally required.

Personally, I saw zero added value in going to the Naval Academy over NROTC. I was just as well prepared as my Academy counterparts when I got to the fleet. During my career, I never observed a meaningful difference in quality between junior officers coming from the Academy and those coming from other accession sources - and that includes the ones from aggy.

If Cruz' plan is simply to help funnel folks into the ROTC program if they don't make it into the Academy, that seems reasonable. If it's just to funnel folks into the corps, well that's just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

TrashMaster G · January 19

2 hours ago, 83Horn said:

Ya know??? Where's the embarrassment emoji? Some days the coffee just doesn't work it's magic.

53 minutes ago, Native Horn said:

I like the idea of an embarrassment emoji.

Armybrat · January 19

16 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

When I was going through the ROTC scholarship application process, the recruiter asked me why I wasn't applying to the Academy. Told him first off, I'm going to Texas. And second, I wanted the college experience. Third, I would have plenty of military experience in the near future and didn't need to play the part in school any more than minimally required.

Personally, I saw zero added value in going to the Naval Academy over NROTC. I was just as well prepared as my Academy counterparts when I got to the fleet. During my career, I never observed a meaningful difference in quality between junior officers coming from the Academy and those coming from other accession sources - and that includes the ones from aggy.

If Cruz' plan is simply to help funnel folks into the ROTC program if they don't make it into the Academy, that seems reasonable. If it's just to funnel folks into the corps, well that's just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

A good friend enrolled in the UT NROTC in 1962 or ‘63. Had a great time in the party scene.
Unfortunately he flunked out and had to go enlisted active duty and wound up on a destroyer in the Gulf of Tonkin during August of 1964.

Guadaloopy · January 19

3 hours ago, 83Horn said:

Ya know??? Where's the embarrassment emoji? Some days the coffee just doesn't work it's magic.

1 hour ago, Native Horn said:

I like the idea of an embarrassment emoji.

20 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

jimmyjazz · January 19

1 hour ago, Native Horn said:

I like the idea of an embarrassment emoji.

nnm · January 19

1 hour ago, Native Horn said:

I like the idea of an embarrassment emoji.

I think we need a “WTF” emoji more.

MAUFRAIS · January 19

A good friend enrolled in the UT NROTC in 1962 or ‘63. Had a great time in the party scene.
Unfortunately he flunked out and had to go enlisted active duty and wound up on a destroyer in the Gulf of Tonkin during August of 1964.

Cool. He ever meet Jim Morrison?

Steel Shank · January 19

I’d listen to Armybrat. He knows what he’s doing, he’s pre-med. in that he literally pre-dates the practice of medicine

BAM!

Armybrat · January 19

15 minutes ago, MAUFRAIS said:

Cool. He ever meet Jim Morrison?

No, but he eventually became the media director for the US House of Representatives.

Js1 · January 19

39 minutes ago, nnm said:

I think we need a “WTF” emoji more.

Superhero’s avatar, imo

Hagbard Celine · January 19

1 hour ago, Armybrat said:

A good friend enrolled in the UT NROTC in 1962 or ‘63. Had a great time in the party scene.
Unfortunately he flunked out and had to go enlisted active duty and wound up on a destroyer in the Gulf of Tonkin during August of 1964.

narrator: for the kids here... the gulf of tonkin was one of the Top 5 false flag ops in the 20th century; joe bob says check it out

jimmyjazz · January 19

1 minute ago, Hagbard Celine said:

joe bob says check it out

Nice film review flashback. + rep

Hagbard Celine · January 19

the demise of the 2nd papers of record in many big cities had an unintended consequence years downline when the intertrons developed a nasty habit of flushing historical content down the memory hole......

..... many here are not old enough to remember the Dallas Times-Herald and the role it played in sports coverage and sports investigation both locally and nationally

but it died at the end of '91 and it's entire publication history is showing up in result sets much less frequently, so when i stumble across important DTH content it merits a posting

6 years to the day before the last issue of the DTH they published the first in a series of articles on our friends; here it is referenced by an LA Times article the same day which remains available in the clear on the intertrons and still appears in aggy result sets with the right search terms

@aggypedia all of the DTH articles should be canonized as .jpgs in their original print form factor to preserve the Holy Quality of Their Truth and Revelation

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Dallas Paper, in Probe, Alleges Payoffs to Players at Texas A&M
L.A. Times Archives
Dec. 8, 1985 12 AM PT

From Times Wire Services

DALLAS —

aggy football players were given thousands of dollars in under-the-table payments and other illegal considerations by coaches and booster “sugar daddies,” a copyright story in the Dallas Times Herald said.

In a 160-inch story appearing in today’s editions, the Times Herald reported that a two-month investigation undertaken by the newspaper revealed that aggy, this year’s Southwest Conference football champions, had committed scores of NCAA violations since 1979.

The story was the first in a series, the newspaper said.

One former player, Gary Rogers of Dallas, said he was paid $20,000 by Riley C. Couch III, a Dallas banker and president-elect of the Dallas aggy Club.

“It came to the point where I began to wonder, ‘Where is it coming from?’ ” said Rogers, who signed with aggy in 1982 and left after sitting out the 1983 season on a disciplinary suspension. “I just blew money all the time. I partied a lot.”

Kathy Jackson, a former athletic department tutor at the university, was quoted as saying: “They had a very organized system for a player being paid. According to his ability, he would be assigned a sugar daddy. They would always joke about it: ‘My sugar daddy is richer than your sugar daddy.’ ”

Southwest Conference President Dr. Michael Johnson said Saturday that any collegiate athlete caught accepting money or other inducements from boosters should be considered a professional and ineligible to compete at any NCAA school.

Johnson declined to comment on the Times Herald story but said he believed that legislation slated for proposal to the NCAA convention next month concerning the responsibility of athletes in recruiting violation cases was not strong enough.

The Times Herald said that two current players, sophomore quarterback Kevin Murray and freshman linebacker Aaron Wallace, were driving late-model cars leased by sports agents or owned by boosters.

The alleged infractions, which included car deals, signing bonuses, weekly allowances and big payoffs for the sale of players’ game tickets, occurred during the tenures of Jackie Sherrill, the school’s football coach and athletic director since 1982, and former coach Tom Wilson.

Wilson, who coached from 1978 to 1981, would not comment. Sherrill told the Times Herald that he had no knowledge of violations and that a partly completed in-house investigation had revealed no improprieties.

The Southwest Conference has been overwhelmed by NCAA scrutiny in recent years. Southern Methodist is currently serving the stiffest football-related penalty handed out by the NCAA. Baylor is under investigation for alleged payments made to a basketball player, and Texas Christian football Coach Jim Wacker suspended seven players from his team this year for taking money from alumni.

In interviews with more than 40 recent players and other sources, the newspaper uncovered a payoff system that matched “sugar daddies” with players they allegedly paid off.

Two players, Rogers and Cal Peveto of Vidor, said they were given large amounts of cash from Couch.

Rogers said he received $5,000 from Couch as a high school junior in 1981 and another large, unspecified amount after signing a letter of intent with aggy in 1982.

Rogers further alleged that Couch paid him a weekly allowance of up to $500 during his two years at the university.

Couch, 36, a senior vice president at Capital Bank in Dallas, denied giving money to either player.

Former players also alleged they were given money by coaches, who sometimes handed over hundreds of dollars.

Players who performed well in a game would return to the locker room to find envelopes stuffed with hundreds of dollars slipped anonymously into their lockers and shoes or under doors in the athletic dormitory, the story said.

One former player, who asked not to be identified, said he received small amounts of cash from a hometown booster before and during his career at aggy.

“Just about every one of the starters had their alumni,” he was quoted as saying. “I had an alum. . . . He’d give me $50 here and there.”

The Times Herald further said that Sherrill is directing a “cover-up” of information about his players and has restricted access to them while potential NCAA violations are being investigated.

Sherrill, in a statement issued in response to inquiries from the Associated Press Saturday, denied any cover-up and said he simply was trying to shield his players from “harassment” by the newspaper.

The newspaper said that Sherrill had most of his players sign secrecy requests that aggy officials have used to withhold otherwise public information about the players’ cars.

The Times Herald said the secrecy forms were passed out after it made a request under the state open records law for documents about vehicle registrations previously ruled public records by the Texas attorney general.

The newspaper said that Sherrill also ordered in late October that players’ telephone numbers be kept secret. Some players also told the paper that Sherrill ordered them not to talk with some newspaper reporters.

Sherrill told the Associated Press that he gave players the option of signing secrecy forms and had their phone numbers withheld to shield them during their successful Southwest Conference championship drive.

“We simply decided to combat the paper’s disruptive tactics--harassment is probably not too strong a term--by the only means available to us,” Sherrill said. “And that was to limit our contact with its abusive reporters and protect the players to the best of our ability so that they could concentrate on their studies and preparations for games.”

The newspaper said it asked to review vehicle registration records after reports of potential violations of NCAA regulations.

According to earlier published reports, an Aggie booster from Dallas, Ronald Dockery, provided a car to quarterback Murray in violation of NCAA rules.

Murray, of Dallas, has said he was offered cars and other improper inducements while being recruited by aggy, SMU, TCU and Oklahoma. Dockery and coaches at all four institutions have denied any impropriety.

But aggy officials have asked the Southwest Conference and NCAA to investigate the allegations concerning Murray’s recruitment and the car, the newspaper said. NCAA officials also plan to investigate the accusations involving aggy and the other three schools, the Times Herald said.

aggy is conducting an internal investigation that school officials said will review its football recruiting in general.

The newspaper said that Sherrill had his players sign secrecy forms during practice session shortly after the school received the Times Herald’s formal request for car registrations.

On Oct. 22, the same week the secrecy forms were passed out, Sherrill issued a directive ordering the school’s telephone operator to withhold players’ numbers.

“As of today, do not give out any numbers of the athletes that live in the C-Wing (the football team wing) of Cain Dorm, per Coach Sherrill,” the directive said.

Sherrill said Saturday that he felt so confident that the school’s athletic program was “in good shape” that he might tell university officials to “limit the extent of our investigation.”

“If all the Times Herald could find is what they confronted me with, then the paper has essentially substantiated what we already know--that our program is in good shape,” Sherrill said.

But Sherrill added that a coach at any major college would be foolish to make a blanket statement that its program was completely clean.

“When anyone is involved with hundreds of young people and thousands of alumni, you’d have to be stupid to say categorically that nothing irregular ever took place,” he said, “just as you’d be stupid to say so about a large corporation, a charitable organization or perhaps even a church.”

Armybrat · January 19

DKR ran a clean program as football coach and would not tolerate boosters giving benefits to players in any sport as athletic director. He despised cheaters.
However, that couldn’t stop the $100 handshakes and envelopes stuffed into lockers during games.

Anecdote:

My brother was treasurer of the men’s basketball booster club during DKR’s AD tenure. At one point the club officers were discussing raising enough cash to buy a used car for a player who was in dire need of transportation to get to campus for class and practice.
Somehow Royal caught wind of the “plot” and called them into his office, whereby he read them the riot act that if they proceeded with that sort of unethical activity he would remove them from the club and ban them from the 40 acres. That meant no tickets or attendance to any sporting activities on campus at all.

I can’t vouch for anything that occurred after he retired though.

Edited January 19 by Armybrat

TreatyOak · January 19

2 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

DKR ran a clean program as football coach and would not tolerate boosters giving benefits to players in any sport as athletic director. He despised cheaters.
However, that couldn’t stop the $100 handshakes and envelopes stuffed into lockers during games.

Anecdote:

My brother was treasurer of the men’s basketball booster club during DKR’s AD tenure. At one point the club officers were discussing raising enough cash to buy a used car for a player who was in dire need of transportation to get to campus for class and practice.
Somehow Royal caught wind of the “plot” and called them into his office, whereby he read them the riot act that if they proceeded with that sort of unethical activity he would remove them from the club and ban them from the 40 acres - no tickets or attendance to any sporting activities at all.

I can’t vouch for anything that occurred after he retired though.

Is that the same Darrell Royal who willingly taught his entire Wishbone offense to the Oklahoma coaching staff, who then used it against him, and then beat him in every game (except for year one), which ultimately spelled his demise? I'm not sure if a worse coaching decision was ever made.

South Austin · January 19

4 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

Is that the same Darrell Royal who willingly taught his entire Wishbone offense to the Oklahoma coaching staff, who then used it against him, and then beat him in every game (except for year one), which ultimately spelled his demise? I'm not sure if a worse coaching decision was ever made.

redswingline · January 19

YGIFS · January 19

AssLamb Man?

Scuba Saba · January 19

The picture of the atm trophy room reminds me of a large mall that is going bankrupt. Awesome similarity.

Pimphand · January 19

7 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Not a lot out there, but I'll own it. Wood, but I'm a fat old.

According to my aggy superfan friend Bjork is a cuck similar to Bilbo.

Pimphand · January 19

24 minutes ago, redswingline said:

Alms for the poor?

Scuba Saba · January 19

Dork is a pass through, is that something like crap through a Christmas turkey?

Horn Under a Bad Sign · January 20

Steel Shank · January 20

You know, in a funny kind of way, I'm going to miss having ol' Jimbo Fisher around to kick and make fun of.

linux · January 20

3 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

Is that the same Darrell Royal who willingly taught his entire Wishbone offense to the Oklahoma coaching staff, who then used it against him, and then beat him in every game (except for year one), which ultimately spelled his demise? I'm not sure if a worse coaching decision was

switzer is a snake the idea that he nobody could learn the Wishbone from seeing it being run by Texas is the most ridiculous bullshit I have ever heard. Seriously the only way could possibly be real if he's incredibly stupid. That story is one of his tall tales it happened but it is extremely embellished

TrashMaster G · January 20

9 minutes ago, Steel Shank said:

You know, in a funny kind of way, I'm going to miss having ol' Jimbo Fisher around to kick and make fun of.

I felt the same about RC.

And Sherman.

And Franccione.

And Sumlin...

The Gimp · January 20

1 hour ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

I think he’s done now.

Cairn Horn88 · January 20

On 1/17/2024 at 10:11 PM, Cairn Horn88 said:

Texas reported athletic department revenue of $271 million in 2023, a record for NCAA schools:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/big12/2024/01/17/texas-athletic-department-271-million-revenue/72255138007/

For now, the new total stands as the largest single-year total since the NCAA began its current financial reporting system in 2005. Ohio State reported $251.6 million in 2022. (Oregon reported $391.8 million in 2020, but that included more than $270 million as a contribution for the renovation of its track and field stadium.)

By category, Texas’ largest year-over-year increases were:
-- $11 million in contributions, which rose to nearly $86 million.

-- $10.2 million in money from sponsorships, licensing, royalties and advertising, which totaled $54.7 million.
-- $5.7 million in ticket sales, which moved to $63.3 million

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2024/01/19/texas-am-over-279-million-athletics-revenue-2023/72287203007/

However, Texas A&M is attributing $53.2 million of its $115.4 million in contributions for the year to an unusual level of spending during the year on a series of facilities projects. This is similar to Texas A&M's reporting over years in which it paid for the $485 million redevelopment of its football stadium and other projects across several years, beginning with its 2015 fiscal year.

Also for 2023, Texas A&M reported $12 million in direct institutional support in 2023, the first time since 2014 that it has shown any help for athletics. However, the athletics department's chief financial officer, Jeff Toole, said this was a loan by the university from non-taxpayer funds to assist with another facility project — and it will be repaid by the athletics department.

Edited January 20 by Cairn Horn88

Cairn Horn88 · January 20

Adjusted SEC Top 10 Power Rankings for Next year

Posted by Tarpon08

on 1/19/24 at 8:49 pm

1. Texas- Because UGA lost Downs lol
2. Georgia- Lost Downs Lol

Rest of the top 10 remains:

3. LSU- Back to Back 10 Wins, Staff Upgrades, Recruiting
4. Ole Miss- All in in 2024. Only this low due to high school recruiting.
5. Oklahoma- Nice Turnaround Year and Top 10 Recruiting
6. Tennessee- Solid last few years and recruiting OK.
7. Missouri- Will be good next year and then we'll poach the rest of your staff. Sorry.
8. Auburn- Freeze can Coach and 2024 and 2025 classes looking good!
9. Alabama- You guys are so fricked.
10. Texas A&M- You guys are so gay.

Tex Pete · January 20

2 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Reported by Billy Liucci? Then they’re bullshit. Billy was just pumping the lies he was told to. Cover for those who made the decision to pay Jimbo $100MM.

BurntEyes · January 20

4 hours ago, Pimphand said:

According to my aggy superfan friend Bjork is a cuck similar to Bilbo.

He would be welcome to watch. I've no shame at all man. It happens when you're a fat old.

TreatyOak · January 20

3 hours ago, linux said:

switzer is a snake the idea that he nobody could learn the Wishbone from seeing it being run by Texas is the most ridiculous bullshit I have ever heard. Seriously the only way could possibly be real if he's incredibly stupid. That story is one of his tall tales it happened but it is extremely embellished

Seems like it is pretty well documented with quotes from Emory Ballard

linux · January 20

1 hour ago, TreatyOak said:

Seems like it is pretty well documented with quotes from Emory Ballard

It did happen the question is is the whole story true. That is just a tall tale for his Okie fan base, making them feel Superior that they got one over Texas. The idea that nobody could ever copy the wishbone without Ballard explaining it is dumb

ABSR · January 20

16 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

Is that the same Darrell Royal who willingly taught his entire Wishbone offense to the Oklahoma coaching staff, who then used it against him, and then beat him in every game (except for year one), which ultimately spelled his demise? I'm not sure if a worse coaching decision was ever made.

I believe it was Alabama and coach Bryant who he taught it to.

ABSR · January 20

12 hours ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2024/01/19/texas-am-over-279-million-athletics-revenue-2023/72287203007/

However, Texas A&M is attributing $53.2 million of its $115.4 million in contributions for the year to an unusual level of spending during the year on a series of facilities projects. This is similar to Texas A&M's reporting over years in which it paid for the $485 million redevelopment of its football stadium and other projects across several years, beginning with its 2015 fiscal year.

Also for 2023, Texas A&M reported $12 million in direct institutional support in 2023, the first time since 2014 that it has shown any help for athletics. However, the athletics department's chief financial officer, Jeff Toole, said this was a loan by the university from non-taxpayer funds to assist with another facility project — and it will be repaid by the athletics department.

See bold below. Anyone else surprised that aggy waited until Texas reported before making up a larger number in any way possible, including using loans and donations as a “revenue” source….yet again, in order to over inflate their numbers. There is no ncaa standards around this, but I would think they do have to get their books audited. So which former student mom and pop countin’ firm is certifying this?

The Texas A&M athletic department had $279.2 million in operating revenue during its 2023 fiscal year, its new financial report to the NCAA shows.

The document was obtained by USA TODAY Sports through an open-records request in partnership with the Knight-Newhouse Data project at Syracuse University.

It comes days after the University of Texas’ report showed just over $271 million in operating revenue for 2023.

Jkwellborn · January 20

It did happen the question is is the whole story true. That is just a tall tale for his Okie fan base, making them feel Superior that they got one over Texas. The idea that nobody could ever copy the wishbone without Ballard explaining it is dumb

Well, I watched “We are Marshall” and they had to be taught by Bobby Bowden.

RomaVicta · January 20

17 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

Sherrill said Saturday that he felt so confident that the school’s athletic program was “in good shape” that he might tell university officials to “limit the extent of our investigation.”

“If all the Times Herald could find is what they confronted me with, then the paper has essentially substantiated what we already know--that our program is in good shape,” Sherrill said.

Thanks for the whole article but particularly the above. The Aggies preserve their delusion about holy Jack Sherrill by claiming he was never found guilty of anything to do with cheating. I don't recall the details, but his actions depicted in the article make it crystal clear that he was right in the middle of it. I had not doubt, but I also had no documentation or details loaded in the ol' brain pan.

RomaVicta · January 20

17 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

Is that the same Darrell Royal who willingly taught his entire Wishbone offense to the Oklahoma coaching staff, who then used it against him, and then beat him in every game (except for year one), which ultimately spelled his demise? I'm not sure if a worse coaching decision was ever made.

Yep, that's the main thing to remember about Royal. Well done, Surly Football Board.

Armybrat · January 20

22 minutes ago, ABSR said:

See bold below. Anyone else surprised that aggy waited until Texas reported before making up a larger number in any way possible, including using loans and donations as a “revenue” source….yet again, in order to over inflate their numbers. There is no ncaa standards around this, but I would think they do have to get their books audited. So which former student mom and pop countin’ firm is certifying this?

The Texas A&M athletic department had $279.2 million in operating revenue during its 2023 fiscal year, its new financial report to the NCAA shows.

The document was obtained by USA TODAY Sports through an open-records request in partnership with the Knight-Newhouse Data project at Syracuse University.

It comes days after the University of Texas’ report showed just over $271 million in operating revenue for 2023.

So, aggy sold front door access to their Los Alamos infrastructure computer network for another billion?

RomaVicta · January 20

12 hours ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2024/01/19/texas-am-over-279-million-athletics-revenue-2023/72287203007/

However, Texas A&M is attributing $53.2 million of its $115.4 million in contributions for the year to an unusual level of spending during the year on a series of facilities projects. This is similar to Texas A&M's reporting over years in which it paid for the $485 million redevelopment of its football stadium and other projects across several years, beginning with its 2015 fiscal year.

Also for 2023, Texas A&M reported $12 million in direct institutional support in 2023, the first time since 2014 that it has shown any help for athletics. However, the athletics department's chief financial officer, Jeff Toole, said this was a loan by the university from non-taxpayer funds to assist with another facility project — and it will be repaid by the athletics department.

TreatyOak · January 20

8 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Yep, that's the main thing to remember about Royal. Well done, Surly Football Board.

Haha. Just wanted to share it cause if true, it's got to be the strangest coaching decisions of all time and I had never heard it before this year.

Armybrat · January 20

In the real accounting world it looks like aggy actual operating revenue was $226 mil, $45 mil less than UT.

McCombs grads…. Is that correct?

RomaVicta · January 20

1 minute ago, TreatyOak said:

Haha. Just wanted to share it cause if true, it's got to be the strangest coaching decisions of all time and I had never heard it before this year.

Coaches share information all the time, or at least they used to. I didn't watch the video above, so maybe there is some notion that the running of a formation in public 11 times a year could be done in such a way that no other person could figure it out seems specious.

The Wishbone, as I recall, was a pretty simple offense that reduced the whole play to man on man contests and discipline as to which man was yours on both sides of the ball. It was designed to take advantage of Texas' talent advantage.

I would say that OU starting beating us with the Wishbone because they cheated to get more talent. With that being the case, one must go back to judging Royal and Texas' decision not to do the same. I'm glad we did things the way we did.

GreenspointTexas · January 20

12 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

Haha. Just wanted to share it cause if true, it's got to be the strangest coaching decisions of all time and I had never heard it before this year.

Royal came out and straight said he taught blowU the wishbone. Its maybe the biggest wtf moment in the history of the rivalry and almost never gets talked about

Armybrat · January 20

1 minute ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Royal came out and straight said he taught blowU the wishbone. Its maybe the biggest wtf moment in the history of the rivalry and almost never gets talked about

That’s when the Horns had a seven game winning streak going against those cheaters.

DaggerHorns · January 20

https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/college-football/2024/1/12/24035493/nick-saban-retired-legacy-alabama-college-football

“Typically, administrators don’t keep indiscriminately pouring money into football unless their teams are winning championships or they work at Texas A&M.”

TreatyOak · January 20

20 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Royal came out and straight said he taught blowU the wishbone. Its maybe the biggest wtf moment in the history of the rivalry and almost never gets talked about

Crazy, right? @RomaVicta I did a cursory search on the internet and there seems to be some indication that this actually happened, which is kind of incredible.

This site is called "The History of Longhorn Sports: "Coach Royal teaches OU head coach Chuck Fairbanks the intricacies of the wishbone against the advice of Emory Bellard."

https://www.texaslsn.org/dkr-1971-1976#:~:text=Coach Royal teaches OU head,the advice of Emory Bellard.

The following is from an interview w Emory Ballard: https://blog.kir.com/?p=4829

And finally, on legendary UT head coach Darrell Royal’s decision to teach the Wishbone to other programs, including arch-rival Oklahoma. OU refined the formation during the late 1970’s and 80’s to win National Championships and to dominate Texas after UT abandoned the Wishbone when Royal retired in 1975:

"[E]verybody in the country was looking to run the Wishbone. And it became the winningest formation in the history of the game of football for quite a while there. We gave it to Alabama, we gave it to Oklahoma. I mean, their execution knowledge and so forth of the offense came from us; we gave it to Oklahoma."

"I just saw Barry [Switzer] the other day. He was offensive coordinator at Oklahoma and Chuck Fairbanks was the head coach and Darrell came into my office one day and we’d already just wore Oklahoma out a couple years and he said, “Chuck is in trouble, he’s gonna lose his job and they want to put in the Wishbone. Barry is gonna be calling you, help him all you can.”

I shook my head, I said, “Darrell, you got to be joking?” He said, “No, I wanna help him.”

I said, “Well, I can admire your wanting to help somebody but I said, gosh darn, not them.” That’s true, too, because they got to where they had so much speed it was hard for us to catch them.

He [Royal] called me about four or five months ago. He calls every now and then and I call him every now and then. But anyhow, he called and said, “You know, I was just sitting here thinking, I might not be as benevolent if I had it to do over (again).”

I said, “I hope not, Darrell. I don’t think we could go through that again.”

Armybrat · January 20

Interesting, but that’s enough blowU talk for this aggy thread.

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