Tell Me About Texas a&m

[Pimphand 6383]

17 hours ago, UTexasFight said:

Was there too and took the words right out of my mouth. 
Taylor Martinez was so awful for them (but not as awful as his receivers that day)

Fun fact: Nebraska was #5 heading in to that game. They haven’t been ranked in the top 5 since.

That was 2010 since then they have only finished the season ranked in 2010-12 every other season they have finished UR.  They also have 7 seasons where they failed to get ranked for a single week.

[thunderlounge 8486]

[LTtxfan 50040]

AUSTIN -- The Texas A&M Aggies are apparently prepared to pull out all the stops when they host the Texas Longhorns in a monumental rivalry rematch in College Station on Nov. 30.

Per Nicole Griffith of KBTX News, the Aggies are planning to place additional speakers on the sideline against Texas, which will add even more noise to what will already be a raucous crowd at Kyle Field. Texas A&M used these speakers for the first time this season in Saturday's win over New Mexico State in what appeared to have been a test run.

 

Of course, this strategy will certainly be a hot topic of conversation on social media for both fan bases, as the idea to pump in some extra noise at a stadium known for its hostile environment will have Texas fans questioning the atmosphere at Kyle Field.

The decision to add the speakers is certainly a curious one. No one is doubting the noise the 12th Man is capable of bringing, especially for a game of this magnitude. Kyle Field has proven it's one of the best homefield advantages in college football whether Texas fans want to admit it or not.

 

Regardless, the Longhorns have hardly been fazed by road environments over the past two seasons. Texas will enter the matchup having won 10-consecutive true road games, as the Longhorns haven't lost on the road since Oct. 22, 2022 against Oklahoma State. That's the longest active streak in the FBS.

If Texas can take down Kentucky on Saturday and then Texas A&M on Nov. 30, the Longhorns will almost certainly avoid being the road team in a potential first-round game in the College Football Playoff, regardless of what happens in the SEC Championship. This streak would then lead into next season as an impressive feather in the cap of head coach Steve Sarkisian.

Texas and Texas A&M will kick off from College Station at 6:30 p.m. CT on Nov. 30.

https://sportspyder.com/cf/texas-longhorns-football/articles/49959436

 

[Topper13 3651]

7 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

AUSTIN -- The Texas A&M Aggies are apparently prepared to pull out all the stops when they host the Texas Longhorns in a monumental rivalry rematch in College Station on Nov. 30.

Per Nicole Griffith of KBTX News, the Aggies are planning to place additional speakers on the sideline against Texas, which will add even more noise to what will already be a raucous crowd at Kyle Field. Texas A&M used these speakers for the first time this season in Saturday's win over New Mexico State in what appeared to have been a test run.

 

Of course, this strategy will certainly be a hot topic of conversation on social media for both fan bases, as the idea to pump in some extra noise at a stadium known for its hostile environment will have Texas fans questioning the atmosphere at Kyle Field.

The decision to add the speakers is certainly a curious one. No one is doubting the noise the 12th Man is capable of bringing, especially for a game of this magnitude. Kyle Field has proven it's one of the best homefield advantages in college football whether Texas fans want to admit it or not.

 

Regardless, the Longhorns have hardly been fazed by road environments over the past two seasons. Texas will enter the matchup having won 10-consecutive true road games, as the Longhorns haven't lost on the road since Oct. 22, 2022 against Oklahoma State. That's the longest active streak in the FBS.

If Texas can take down Kentucky on Saturday and then Texas A&M on Nov. 30, the Longhorns will almost certainly avoid being the road team in a potential first-round game in the College Football Playoff, regardless of what happens in the SEC Championship. This streak would then lead into next season as an impressive feather in the cap of head coach Steve Sarkisian.

Texas and Texas A&M will kick off from College Station at 6:30 p.m. CT on Nov. 30.

https://sportspyder.com/cf/texas-longhorns-football/articles/49959436

 

 

[Beau Vine 55901]

1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

Kyle Field has proven it's one of the best homefield advantages in college football whether Texas fans want to admit it or not.

[SHOOTER12 8890]

God I hate those son of a bitches with every last molecule in my body. I'd love to set fire to every last mouth breathing one of them.

[Deej 77911]

Some sort of bad engineering will kill most of them, eventually. 

[thunderlounge 8486]

11 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

 

 

“planning”

[jimmyjazz 47360]

4 hours ago, SHOOTER12 said:

I'd love to set fire to every last mouth breathing one of them.

So, bonfire?

[PvilleStang 3011]

[CosmoDog 389]

2 minutes ago, PvilleStang said:

And then, after a heartfelt communal  buggering of a sheep, we helped the elderly bait shop owner find the stadium.

[Guadaloopy 11139]

6 minutes ago, PvilleStang said:

[Tex Pete 21525]

10 minutes ago, PvilleStang said:

Those assholes didn't even kidnap him and show him where Kyle Field is. Yet.

[Orange&White 5573]

12 minutes ago, PvilleStang said:

100% made up. 

[Hank Kingsley 21821]

19 minutes ago, PvilleStang said:

 

[gofuckyourself 9109]

11 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Kyle Field has proven it's one of the best homefield advantages in college football whether Texas fans want to admit it or not.

[rage-a-holic 4749]

1 hour ago, PvilleStang said:

This is the opposite of reality and so very aggy.

The only Texas school regret stories I've heard in 30 years of dealing with aggy graduates are:

• I wanted to go to UT but couldn't get in. Got in to aggy easily.
• My parents didn't want me to go to UT because they thought I would party too much. Couldn't get in to Rice. SMU and TCU were too expensive. It was either aggy or Tech. Should have gone to Tech.
• I'm from Austin but wanted to get away from my parents. aggy looked fun and it was close to Austin. Should have gone to Baylor.

[Dennis Taylor 19395]

1 hour ago, PvilleStang said:

[LTtxfan 50040]

Heard $9.95er's podcast talking about Brian Kelly's buyout, and they laughed that at least it's currently less than Jimbo's...

Jimbo's just a year ago at approx $76mill 😎

 

 

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Around 10 a.m. ET Sunday morning somewhere within Kyle Field, Texas A&M administrators fired coach Jimbo Fisher. The meeting was described as quick and cordial by athletic director Ross Bjork; defensive line coach Elijah Robinson will be the interim head coach. Robinson runs arguably the best position group on the team, and is an ace recruiter. He’ll keep things steady in the short term, and should have a shot to stay on the staff long term, if he wants to. If he does stick around, the hiring of his next boss has a chance to set off what an industry source called a chain reaction in the coaching market.

But before we talk about the who of A&M’s next head coach, or the Aggies’ floundering play relative to their recruiting rankings, or an offense that has never figured itself out, or the ever-present threat that Texas will leave them in the dust as they join the SEC, let’s talk about the dollars and cents of firing Jimbo Fisher.

The sticker shock on the buyout number involved with this move is immense: According to Fisher’s contract, he will be due about $76 million by 2031. That’s long term. Here’s some back-of-napkin math in line with the terms of Fisher’s contract about what this is going to cost the Aggies in the short term.

25% of his deal, or about $19.25 million, is due in a lump sum within 60 days of effective termination)

Another roughly $7 million within 120 days of effective termination (assume today, that means March 11, 2024). This starts his annual clock through the rest of the deal, which lasts through ’31. There are no offsets in the deal if he takes another job.

Assistant coaching staff buyout: roughly $8 million

Buying out their new coach’s contract from his current school: anything more than about $6 million is considered a high number within the industry

That new coach’s Year 1 salary is likely to be around $7 million (about 15th nationally, right between Florida State’s Mike Norvell and Florida’s Billy Napier)

The new coach’s assistant salary pool will likely be $8 million

This ballpark takes you to $55 million all-in within the next few months. This is money, Bjork said, that will come from athletic department coffers and the independent 12th Man Foundation (A&M booster club) funds.

“There’s buckets that the 12th Man Foundation houses within their structure,” Bjork said. “Those are flexible funds that we had a conversation about and said those funds are to benefit athletics. They raise money for championship athletics, and our mission is championship athletics and opportunities. You sit down, you have those conversations. They have their discussions within their organization. That’s the one-time funds. The ongoing payments that are required in the contract, those will be athletic department funds. We grow revenue, we have new TV deals coming up, new sponsorship contracts coming up. We’re repurposing a lot of our revenue buckets so we have a lot of new revenue coming our way, too, but we also have to manage expenses.”

Let’s focus first on Fisher’s portion of the $55 million, about $26.25 million.

When asked whether he expects Fisher to be paid out in full, as the contract stipulates, Bjork said: “There are different parameters that are outlined in the contract, and those mechanics will be worked out as soon as we touch base with his representation.”

What’s worse? A Bobby Bonilla Day situation for the next seven years or a lump sum now that you take on the chin. The pockets are deep in Aggieland, and part of the reason this was done now is because the buyout doesn’t really drop all that much in the next few years (only around $9 million gets knocked off each year). It’s not likely A&M would run the spin up something to satisfy a for-cause termination play that UConn and Kansas have failed at recently, to different degrees.

But what about a lump sum agreement? That would be a big hit now for the school, but could be softened on the school’s end a bit by projected increases in SEC revenue once Texas and Oklahoma come in, as well as the increased College Football Playoff payouts. It would also help Fisher as well, who could receive a tax benefit by receiving his payout as a lump sum. Income becomes taxable in the first taxable year when there is no longer a substantial risk of forfeiture, according to the U.S. tax code (Texas has no state income tax). So his 2023 tax return may show income of $76 million-plus, even though he’ll receive substantially less in cash. A possible remedy here could be to strike a deal for less than the $76 million, and both sides walk away now. One industry source said that if they were advising Fisher, “I’d take 75 to 80 cents on the dollar and call it a day.” Two other industry sources picked around $50 million as a decent place to land for a lump sum.

“I’d say if he can quickly net $35 million or more that would be the landing spot. That’s a gross of roughly $50 million to settle.” It is a separate commentary on college athletics that anywhere from $50 to $60 million in a lump sum could be in any way constituted as some sort of bargain. There is no way to get around the fact that whichever way you swing it, it’s a lot of money.

Now let’s focus on that other $28.75 million of our rough A&M cost analysis, specifically how much a new coach will be getting paid. A&M isn’t in this spot because its per-year salary was market resetting; it’s because the total guarantee is. Bjork is signaling he might not like that to be the case this go-around. He may not have initially hired Fisher, but he did extend him in 2021

“There’s a market for a lot different contract than what we had, and you can hire a great coach,” Bjork said. “We have to learn a lesson. Look, the dynamics around that decision in 2021, that’s an institutional decision, but I take responsibility. I knew what was coming in the marketplace later that fall. So I knew that it was the right decision at that time because that’s the information that we had. It didn’t work out. Clearly it didn’t work out. We’re gonna learn from that and make sure that we don’t make the same mistakes again.”

A problem he may face in the marketplace is the perception from agents and coaches that the money was there for the last guy in guaranteed form, so why isn’t it there for the next guy?

Which candidate A&M goes for could come down to whether, as one source put it, “They put their cowboy boots on for this one.” Early names to look out for, according to industry sources, include: Oregon’s Dan Lanning (his $20 million buyout owed to Oregon is its own whopping lump sum), Ole Miss’s Lane Kiffin, UTSA’s Jeff Traylor, Duke’s Mike Elko and Washington’s Kalen DeBoer.

Landing a candidate is one thing. What they pay him, and how they do it, will be the most intriguing subplot of this search process. 

 

 

[Blotto 24045]

2 hours ago, rage-a-holic said:

• I'm from Austin but wanted to get away from my parents. aggy looked fun and it was close to Austin. Should have gone to Baylor.

It's difficult for me to imagine how those words, in that particular order, would ever come out of anyone's mouth. 

[TonyTexas 10796]

No A&M game thread yet so I thought I’d put this here. Early line for our game on T+2 is Texas -7.5. 

[rage-a-holic 4749]

3 minutes ago, Blotto said:

It's difficult for me to imagine how those words, in that particular order, would ever come out of anyone's mouth. 

This person wasn't terribly smart, in case that wasn't obvious. They wanted get away from their parents in Austin, but didn't want to go farther than Waco.

[Beau Vine 55901]

2 hours ago, rage-a-holic said:

I'm from Austin but wanted to get away from my parents. aggy looked fun and it was close to Austin.

I had numerous students at Texas State who told me the exact same thing.  And then after 1 year in College Station, they said, "This place is fucking weird," and left for San Marcos.

[UTexasFight 9833]

I can’t believe it hasn’t even been a year since Jimbo was canned. That feels like ages ago….but instead ages is how long it’s going to take A&M to recover from that buyout.

[Tex Pete 21525]

1 minute ago, UTexasFight said:

I can’t believe it hasn’t even been a year since Jimbo was canned. That feels like ages ago….but instead ages is how long it’s going to take A&M to recover from that buyout.

Just think. Jimbo hasn't even counted a tiny fraction of his buyout yet.

Probably makes it hard using his fingers and toes.

[jimmyjazz 47360]

The Jimbo + Schloss situations bring me endless joy.

[Drew 2935]

14 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Like Texas fans dismiss Pyle Field as the Tahj Mahal of football stadiums...but don't think any rational Horn would pretend they don't have a good homefield when they're rabid.

So that was just another lie.

4 hours ago, PvilleStang said:

Not true, of course.

But even it was.  So fucking what?  Don't think anyone has ever said Ags are rude or not nice enough to help another texas in need.

We just know they're morons. 

[TOR 6167]

15 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Kyle Field has proven it's one of the best homefield advantages in college football

wat

[nnm 38031]

44 minutes ago, Drew said:

Don't think anyone has ever said Ags are rude

You mean other than slinging horse poop? Or yelling at visitors walking on the grass? Or pulling combat weapons on unarmed cheerleaders?

The mythical status applied to the “Aggie Network” is absurd. As if they’re the only school in the country that has an active alumni network that helps with job placement and other things. They’re a diploma mill second-rate state school with a strong regional presence. If you get a degree there you can probably get a job in Katy, Kingwood, or Tyler. Good for you. Go outside of Texas and it has zero name recognition and you won’t get any more consideration than a grad of Grand Canyon University. And the ring marks you as a provincial, small-minded individual. 

[Hank Kingsley 21821]

Look, the jizz jars don't fill themselves. 

 

[South Austin 53309]

5 minutes ago, nnm said:

If you get a degree there you can probably get a job in Katy, Kingwood, or Tyler. 

You really don't even need an aggy degree to get a job in those places.  Just a t-shirt or bumper sticker.

[Kennythetiger 9672]

9 hours ago, SHOOTER12 said:

I'd love to set fire to every last mouth breathing one of them.

I see what you did there. 

[TOR 6167]

10 minutes ago, nnm said:

If you get a degree there you can probably get a job in Katy, Kingwood, or Tyler.

Speak no ill of Tyler, Texas.

[markstanco 12815]

1 hour ago, UTexasFight said:

I can’t believe it hasn’t even been a year since Jimbo was canned. That feels like ages ago….but instead ages is how long it’s going to take A&M to recover from that buyout.

November 12th was the date per wiki. 

[nnm 38031]

11 minutes ago, TOR said:

Speak no ill of Tyler, Texas.

Oh, I’m not. I live in the country close to Tyler. It’s beautiful. But it’s infested with Aggies. 

edit:  Not as much as Katy or Clear Lake, where I lived during my prior career in O&G. 

Edited November 22 by nnm

[gofuckyourself 9109]

1 hour ago, Drew said:

any rational Horn would pretend they don't have a good homefield when they're rabid

Well, I thought it was a given aggy is a vastly overrated homefield advantage, but If it's rationality one is seeking ...

Here are actual results, from about 2003 or so, if the source is accurate (https://betiq.teamrankings.com/college-football/betting-trends/win-loss-records-at-home/?season=all)

Spoiler: You'll have to scroll a while. I stopped as soon as I could to make the point.

Also note that Auburn is juuuust ahead of aggy. So the stakes for this weekend's game just got much higher. Whoop.

 

Team	Win-Loss Record	Win %	MOV	ATS +/-
Ohio St	183-20-0	90.2%	23.5	+1.9
James Mad	15-2-3	88.2%	20.0	+4.9
Oregon	161-30-0	84.3%	17.7	+1.3
Boise St	154-29-7	84.2%	19.3	+3.2
Liberty	36-7-1	83.7%	13.1	-0.6
App State	56-11-1	83.6%	17.4	-1.0
Oklahoma	156-31-1	83.4%	20.4	+1.5
Georgia	153-31-0	83.2%	18.2	+0.1
Alabama	171-38-0	81.8%	19.9	-0.3
Jksnville St	9-2-2	81.8%	13.0	+7.8
LSU	164-37-1	81.6%	17.3	+1.2
Michigan	165-38-0	81.3%	15.7	+0.7
Florida	160-37-0	81.2%	19.8	+1.1
Clemson	159-38-0	80.7%	17.1	+1.7
Toledo	137-39-0	77.8%	12.6	+1.6
Wisconsin	152-44-1	77.6%	15.5	+1.5
Florida St	151-44-0	77.4%	18.1	-0.7
Marshall	132-39-17	77.2%	11.6	+2.1
Penn St	158-47-0	77.1%	16.0	+1.8
USC	141-44-0	76.2%	13.8	+0.3
Texas	140-44-0	76.1%	17.3	+1.3
BYU	133-44-0	75.1%	12.7	+1.1
Kansas St	153-51-0	75.0%	17.0	+5.5
VA Tech	142-48-0	74.7%	15.7	+2.4
Miami	144-49-0	74.6%	15.2	0.0
TX Christian	132-46-0	74.2%	15.5	+1.7
Notre Dame	140-49-0	74.1%	11.7	+0.1
Tennessee	153-55-0	73.6%	13.0	-0.2
Utah	130-47-0	73.5%	12.6	+1.9
Nebraska	151-55-0	73.3%	15.0	-1.0
Troy	94-36-0	72.3%	10.0	+0.7
Auburn	155-61-0	71.8%	13.2	+0.2
Texas A&M	142-56-0	71.7%	14.6	+1.1

 

[Mittens 8787]

On 11/21/2024 at 11:43 AM, Pancho said:

The thing about the Mo Bamba thing

Texas players need to react the same way Oregon players reacted when Wisconsin played Jump Around last week.  

 

[Pancho 46392]

 

[royiv 9906]

28 minutes ago, Mittens said:

Texas players need to react the same way Oregon players reacted when Wisconsin played Jump Around last week.  

 

The Duck on a pogo stick is hilarious.

[Beau Vine 55901]

IIRC, Oregon was down 13-6 and had a 4th-9 just across midfield when that happened.  They came out after the TO and converted the 1st, and then tied it about 3 plays later.

Fuck Dan Lanning, but that was incredible.

[TOR 6167]

4 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

IIRC, Oregon was down 13-6 and had a 4th-9 just across midfield when that happened.  They came out after the TO and converted the 1st, and then tied it about 3 plays later.

Fuck Dan Lanning, but that was incredible.

That was a good game.  Wiscy brang it but just did not have enough.

[Wishbone 4958]

6 hours ago, Orange&White said:

100% made up. 

Almost.
The first sentence really happened. What happened after that is completely made up to cover some other made up story about why they had to seine for their bait.

[TOR 6167]

7 hours ago, Orange&White said:

100% made up. 

Then he helped them find a fishing spot.

[Hagbard Celine 11299]

And it must have been the spirit of e.king gill or sul ross that morning hovering over our boat because we caught the biggest __________ (type of fish) and broke a state record by more than 2 pounds.

Because we were so taken aback at how the morning had gone to this point, we threw the fish back in because it didn't seem right.

We did take pics holding the fish on the scale in the boat, but when Bucky got back home to Vancouver he lost the pics when he was trying to upload them on to the internet.

[Blotto 24045]

53 minutes ago, TOR said:

Then he helped them find a fishing spot glory hole.

As long as we're going full aggy fairy tales

[Not a cat 5821]

14 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

And it must have been the spirit of e.king gill or sul ross that morning hovering over our boat because we caught the biggest __________ (type of fish) and broke a state record by more than 2 pounds.

Because we were so taken aback at how the morning had gone to this point, we threw the fish back in because it didn't seem right.

We did take pics holding the fish on the scale in the boat, but when Bucky got back home to Vancouver he lost the pics when he was trying to upload them on to the internet.

You were doing great until you threw in an aggy that lives in Vancouver. Paris or Cleveland (the Texas ones) would work.

[MichaelDicksonFanClub 2962]

Bold move

[TKthunder2 5060]

5 minutes ago, Not a cat said:

You were doing great until you threw in an aggy that lives in Vancouver. Paris or Cleveland (the Texas ones) would work.

You clearly don’t know bizzle.

[deft 7080]

Texas players need to react the same way Oregon players reacted when Wisconsin played Jump Around last week.  
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Why don’t we just bring mo Bamba with us and have him on the sideline? I don’t watch basketball but is he even playing anymore?

[Fondren & Main 6905]

Auburn really is Bama aggy.  They talk as much as aggy fans do on the Pawwwwl Finebaum show 😂.