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1 minute ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

so is your posting prowess.

as hayden asked, what exactly are you trying to get out of this? I've seen a lot of accusations and poo flinging, but no substance. what are you trying to prove with these posts? and just posting memes without actually saying what you mean doesn't cut it.

Completely obvious that you and the rest of the Leftists would prefer this situation to quietly go away.  

 

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You know exactly what its about and are feigning intellectual curiosity and call for discourse on the topic.  

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Posted
2 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Can someone catch me up to what's going on here? Seriously.

I tuned this news item out when it appeared to be merely a case of a person fleeing making a criminally disastrous choice to plow into a parade.

Who is mathboy fly?

Is there evidence the driver was seeking a certain type of person to run over?

I went back a few pages and couldn't figure it out. Thanks to anyone who summarizes this discussion.

Piece of shot runs over grannies.

Headlines don’t say “black racist kills poor white grannies”

Surly right wingers get mad

 

Mathboy Fly is the murderers online handle 

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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Completely obvious that you and the rest of the Leftists would prefer this situation to quietly go away.  

 

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You know exactly what its about and are feigning intellectual curiosity and call for discourse on the topic.  

no, I honestly wonder what you get out of this. the event has no real bearing on your day-to-day life. I came in here to get information as surly and a few other sources are good for up-to-the-minute information. but trying to score political points off this event seems cheap, even for you

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Posted
20 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

so is your posting prowess.

as hayden asked, what exactly are you trying to get out of this? I've seen a lot of accusations and poo flinging, but no substance. what are you trying to prove with these posts? and just posting memes without actually saying what you mean doesn't cut it.

I think its how those morons "own da libs". Its all part of their whataboutism rhetoric. 

Takes a toddler mentality to truly appreciate how clever it all is.

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22 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

so is your posting prowess.

as hayden asked, what exactly are you trying to get out of this? I've seen a lot of accusations and poo flinging, but no substance. what are you trying to prove with these posts? and just posting memes without actually saying what you mean doesn't cut it.

I think its how those morons "own da libs". Its all part of their whataboutism rhetoric. 

Takes a toddler mentality to truly appreciate how clever it all is.

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17 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Piece of shot runs over grannies.

Headlines don’t say “black racist kills poor white grannies”

Surly right wingers get mad

 

Mathboy Fly is the murderers online handle 

Thanks.

I assume there is no evidence that the guy got in his car looking to run over white people even if from his tweets, it looks like he would choose white people over other peoples to run over. 

It may have been a hateful as well as criminally desperate act. He deserves whatever punishment the law allows so long as it's applied the same way as it would be to a white perpetrator.

Black rage against the white man can't really be classified as racism as far as I'm concerned. The feeling is justified. It's a reaction to ongoing oppression, violence, and inequality. 

I would advocate prosecuting a black person harming someone in the name of this rage. I would not see it the same way as firebombing a black church, shooting up a Jewish community center, or clearly different treatment at the hands of police and the justice system. 

If I were desperate to ignore history and the present while trying to whitewash my own whiteness, I would look for absurd "both sides" arguments to say I, a white man, have it as bad as anyone else.

In fact, I don't have it as bad as anyone else. I'm not of the white man class that is given things, but I don't face any friction going through life. I'm talking about the kind of friction created by whites for non-whites even when it comes to the simplest of rights: to vote in a so-called democracy. Throw in likelihood of arrest, difficulty getting bail, prosecutorial persecution, and heavier prison sentencing, and you get a picture of how the white man might garner a modicum of resentment.

Now comes the political right that is neither conservative nor even recognizable to GOPs from 30 years ago. They rail against the persecution of whites. They claim any media outlet not supporting their delusions to be biased libs. They claim anyone who stands against them to be radical libs bent on socialism. 

They're wrong about everything above. They will never see it. They will never accept that they deserve the scorn of their opposition. They destroy the country they claim to love but don't even understand due to their wild delusions.

They pop up to leap about hysterically then fade away like snowflakes on a warm wind when the facts blow in.

Do you guys dream of being that manly man who strolls up to Trump in your manful way to weep at what he has done for America? You're pitiful as individuals and poisonous as citizens.

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Thanks.

I assume there is no evidence that the guy got in his car looking to run over white people even if from his tweets, it looks like he would choose white people over other peoples to run over. 

 

 

There's not really other than his tweets, which I believe were over a year old if not older.  In fact, he was out on bail for abusing and running over a black person (female).   Sounds like just an all-around shithead criminal.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Bravo said:

Say what? Any race can be racist against another race. This is some really deep leftist guilt.

It's racist denial. 

I was dubious about it at first. My perspective has changed. I have not seen and still do not see all that white racism impacts. BLM opened my eyes.

Not make your facile joke about being woke and run along back to the snow bank with your pals. I think you've pos repped them all over here. Your work is done.

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1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

Piece of shot runs over grannies.

Headlines don’t say “black racist kills poor white grannies”

Surly right wingers get mad

 

Mathboy Fly is the murderers online handle 

It really is as simple as this and the only reason the thread gets bumped at all. 
 

The ebil MSM strikes again! Waaaaah! 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Bravo said:

You're tracking who I pos rep? 

Closely. I'm obsessed with you. So is the Committee for Public Safety, tovarisch. The local soviet is concerned about the purity of your belief in our great country. Some say re-education is in order. 

Perhaps you should make yourself known to local monitors and attend more party meetings.

Just friendly advice.

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The more I think about it, the more this crime highlights how problematic hate crime laws are.

Does he hate white people? Yes. Is that why he plowed through this particular crowd? Doesn't seem that way -- he was fleeing, and it's hard to picture him knowing the racial makeup of the crowd he was plowing into.

Top that off with it being a Christmas parade, and the motives get sketchy.

Now, if it had been a political march (MAGA or some other obviously white folk march), it'd be different.

But just knowing someone's likes and dislikes doesn't really speak to their frame of mind at the time they commit their crime.

Either way, string him up.

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Posted
25 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Closely. I'm obsessed with you. So is the Committee for Public Safety, tovarisch. The local soviet is concerned about the purity of your belief in our great country. Some say re-education is in order. 

Perhaps you should make yourself known to local monitors and attend more party meetings.

Just friendly advice.

The surly liberal cabal does NOT fuck around. Just ask swam. RIP. 
 

Consider that closely. 

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Posted
5 hours ago, Bravo said:

Here are some more. 

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Yeah, no. Being pissed at politics doesn’t make you a racist. In fact, defending the wearing of the Confederate flag while banning a BLM shirt IS fucked up. 
 

i don’t want to parse each post. I found a post which was clearly racist and I said so. I feel no need to defend him.  How about you explain why the post I took the time to highlight is racist, in your mind, so we can see how partisan politics clouds your reasoning.

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1 minute ago, Bravo said:

Nice deflection 

Actually that’s what’s called a joke dumbass. 
 

The right is not getting better at humor and therefore the left is not starting to worry about it. 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Bravo said:

I guess because it calls for violence against a specific race? Seems fairly straight forward.

My apologies. Here:

 

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Where is the call to violence? I wouldn’t accept seeing the Confederate Battle flag on a shirt in a place that bans BLM shirts, would you?

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Posted
1 minute ago, Bravo said:

Not all his racist posts have to have a call to violence just a few. Why are you parsing this racist murdering human piece of garbage facebook posts which are all bad?

Because you seem unable to examine detail, and have a partisan all or nothing worldview which I find objectionable. Explain why the BLM shirt post is a shit post.

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24 minutes ago, Bravo said:

Nice deflection 

Nice knee jerk.

You suggest that I was so overwhelmed at the your post about me tracking your posts that I couldn't handle it with argument. 

I merely noticed that many posts on this thread are ya-hoo-ed by you. Log rolling. I'm truly ashamed of being observant. I exposed myself to your shattering wit and logic.  Those and a keen sense of irony are typical of your own cabal. 

We fear your manly manfulness. It takes a real hero to stand up for the white man in this land where they are so horribly persecuted. God bless you!!!!!

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Bravo said:

You're parsing a racists murder's posts. It seems like you sir are the partisan trying to somehow in a weird way justify his racist posts. Also, you take them as a whole not just the clearly violent one where he literally foreshadows what he is going to do against "old white people". He said what he wants to do and he did it in mass. How is this controversial? 

It isn’t. You think baiting someone into pointing out the error in your mental shortcomings is sport. I’ll enjoy not seeing your posts henceforth.

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Guy is a racist.  And a murderer.  Maybe he did not murder these people wholly or in part due to their race.

If a white guy had similar social media posts about blacks and drove over 50+ blacks and killed 6 of them, every leftist on this motherfucking board and all of the media would claim hate crime and would be unwilling to consider other motives.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Guy is a racist.  And a murderer.  Maybe he did not murder these people wholly or in part due to their race.

If a white guy had similar social media posts about blacks and drove over 50+ blacks and killed 6 of them, every leftist on this motherfucking board and all of the media would claim hate crime and would be unwilling to consider other motives.

Actually no because there’s no evidence of any kind that his running over people was racially motivated. There’s no evidence he even knew the race of the victims.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Actually no because there’s no evidence of any kind that his running over people was racially motivated. There’s no evidence he even knew the race of the victims.

evidence = facts and those have no place here. you know this

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Bravo said:

Wow. The pretzel you guys are twisting yourselves into to make this not about racial motives at all. It's amazing actually. 

counterpoint: the ease with which you make this a racial issue despite an overwhelming lack of evidence (one tweet is not evidence, comrade) is amazing, actually.

It may come out that he screamed "kill all whiteys!!!" when he did it, but so far, that evidence is not there. we are not the ones jumping to conclusions here

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Posted
2 hours ago, Bravo said:

Knee jerk? I posted 2 words and it incited a paragraph. God bless your heart.

I see the concept of knee jerk escapes your vast intellect. It doesn't mean over-react. It means instinctively reflexive.

You're welcome. 

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Posted
30 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Actually no because there’s no evidence of any kind that his running over people was racially motivated. There’s no evidence he even knew the race of the victims.

Guys like the sack and our new troll bravo have a difficult time understanding people who make decisions based on facts and evidence instead of fake news and bullshit.
 

It’s why the sack and the poster formerly known as GRUHorn are the only two known posters here who voted for trump in 2020.

Sack even pulled the not voting for trump in 2016 but liking so much of what he saw he couldn’t wait to vote for him in 2020. Now that shit is rare, especially around here. 

Posted
1 hour ago, DDD Dad said:

Rocko

The signs are all there I gotta admit that. 
 

I was thinking tjhooker but this guys not quite that dumb. Much more annoying though. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Bravo said:

Wow. The pretzel you guys are twisting yourselves into to make this not about racial motives at all. It's amazing actually. 

33 minutes ago, Bravo said:

1 post? You need to read the rest of his stuff. Some of it is posted above. At this point I need evidence it wasn't terror motivated as his social media postS are violent and quite racist. Just ignore that though. What in the world?

What evidence is there that he had any knowledge of the race of his victims while fleeing the scene of another crime?

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1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

Actually no because there’s no evidence of any kind that his running over people was racially motivated. There’s no evidence he even knew the race of the victims.

There may be no evidence he cared about the race of the victims he ran over, but he probably noticed a few of the folks flying over his windshield were white.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Deej said:

There may be no evidence he cared about the race of the victims he ran over, but he probably noticed a few of the folks flying over his windshield were white.

I’m sure he did but that wouldn’t make it a hate crime or terrorism.

Posted
Just now, Bravo said:

No one was chasing him. The town is around 90% white. He only hit the once race of people he called for violence against. pretzel-day-the-office.gif.98024b52d36a9bf20c08cb344a09ebe9.gif

 

None of that has anything to do with his motivation when committing the crime and none of that proves he knew the race of his victims. Your attempt to pretzel things that are irrelevant into facts is pretty transparent 

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Posted
Just now, Bravo said:

You are actually ignoring his racist posts and calls to violence specifically against old white people. This is all just a horrible coincidence. 

Actually I’m not. They just don’t prove this is a hate crime or terrorism. 

Posted
16 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

I’m sure he did but that wouldn’t make it a hate crime or terrorism.

Didn't say it did, but to say he didn't know the race of his victims is pretty silly, unless he was driving blindfolded. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Deej said:

Didn't say it did, but to say he didn't know the race of his victims is pretty silly, unless he was driving blindfolded. 

Ok I guess. There’s no evidence that he intended to kill specifically white people or knew that specifically white people were in the parade until the crime was being committed. Which is why it isn’t a hate crime.

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1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

Ok I guess. There’s no evidence that he intended to kill specifically white people or knew that specifically white people were in the parade until the crime was being committed. Which is why it isn’t a hate crime.

Again, never said it was. I just thought saying he didn't even know he was running over white people while he was actually running people over was trying a little too hard to try and prove the point. 

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Deej said:

Again, never said it was. I just thought saying he didn't even know he was running over white people while he was actually running people over was trying a little too hard to try and prove the point. 

 

Mea culpa. 

Posted
17 minutes ago, Bravo said:

Question. Say a white guy with multiple racist posts against black people some calling for violence rams his car into a a parade consisting of 90% black people. Would your reaction be the same? 

They need to circle back on that.  

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Posted
1 hour ago, Bravo said:

I cannot believe I have to post this again. No motivation at all here. None. Where could anyone get the idea? I guess he has to scream it as he is doing what he said he was going to do to prove motivation?

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So NOW you want to bring in posts on social media as proof of motive.  Ok.

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