2022 Texas Coaching/Support Staff Thread

[RaysBoomBoomRoom 5742]

I thought we needed a separate thread for running updates and 9.95 articles on the staff so that we didn't clog the recruiting board.

So Far all That we Know is Lovo is coming to be the Football Oerations AD: 

And we are likely Targeting Samples. This is a thread for more concrete news/speculation than it is for complaining about X's and O's. Big time offseason boys. 

[RaysBoomBoomRoom 5742]

I posted this in the recruiting thread but its more relevant here. 

I am just so fascinated by what sark is going to do with the defensive staff. 

Option A) Let PK bring in his own Secondary guys

Option B) Fire PK and Choate and bring in a more SEC Type coordinator

Option C) Fire everyone not named Bo Davis and start completely over

It's really hard for me to see them letting Gideon go. Thats gotta be a bad PR move with him being a letterman and playing so recently. Thats a lot of alumni support potentially gone out of the window. 

[irishtexan 11522]

Just now, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

It's really hard for me to see them letting Gideon go. Thats gotta be a bad PR move with him being a letterman and playing so recently. Thats a lot of alumni support potentially gone out of the window. 

What "alumni support" are we in danger of losing? They sat on their asses on NIL. Does this mean that they'll donate less to the program? Since that's the only thing we seem to give a shit about, and the only thing that motivates the athletic department to do anything, I'd see that as a good thing. 

Fucking christ, this program is a goddamn dumpster fire. 

[RaysBoomBoomRoom 5742]

1 minute ago, irishtexan said:

What "alumni support" are we in danger of losing? They sat on their asses on NIL. Does this mean that they'll donate less to the program? Since that's the only thing we seem to give a shit about, and the only thing that motivates the athletic department to do anything, I'd see that as a good thing. 

Fucking christ, this program is a goddamn dumpster fire. 

Sorry I was not meaning for that to be dramatic haha. I am saying the letterman that he played with might believe in him and think that he is a good coach. Firing him would not be celebrated by them is all I was trying to say. I really think that sark only hired him because he played here.

Edited November 23, 2021 by RaysBoomBoomRoom

[Hookem2147 21346]

Gideon is seen as a good recruiter (he has been involved in helping secure several prospects this cycle and has proven he can recruit outside his position too) and came highly recommended by Muschamp. I'm not blaming him for the 3-year regression we've seen of BJ Foster and converted WR Brenden Schooler.

Davis and Gideon are the most likely to stay. The other 3 should have their resumes updated just in case.

Edited November 23, 2021 by Hookem2147

[Hookem2147 21346]

I'm sure it's been mentioned on here already IT has been hinting for a while that the personnel department will be getting some new faces. Hopefully they are expanding that department and not just swapping out people.

[RaysBoomBoomRoom 5742]

2 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

I'm sure it's been mentioned on here already IT has been hinting for a while that the personnel department will be getting some new faces. Hopefully they are expanding that department and not just swapping out people.

TFB said earlier this month that support staff was going to see a lot of movement. I bet sark had a multi year plan for building the support staff. That's not really something that you can complete in one offseason.

Edited November 23, 2021 by RaysBoomBoomRoom

[closetohumping 17456]

4 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

I'm sure it's been mentioned on here already IT has been hinting for a while that the personnel department will be getting some new faces. Hopefully they are expanding that department and not just swapping out people.

Sark dumped most of Herman's guys right?  I thought Herman had a pretty good support staff.

[NorLa Horns 1458]

4 minutes ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

TFB said earlier this month that support staff was going to see a lot of movement. I bet sark had a multi year plan for building the support staff. That's not really something that you can complete in one offseason.

Make another swing at the guy compliance said no to. And we got Gladscock instead. 

The smoke from Tennessee has cleared. So compliance shouldn't have a gripe. And Sark gets the guy he wanted in the first place 

[Hookem2147 21346]

7 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Sark dumped most of Herman's guys right?  I thought Herman had a pretty good support staff.

He really only dumped Chang because most coaches want their own player personnel guy. A think a lot of the analyst and support staff remained the same.

[Hookem2147 21346]

10 minutes ago, NorLa Horns said:

Make another swing at the guy compliance said no to. And we got Gladscock instead. 

The smoke from Tennessee has cleared. So compliance shouldn't have a gripe. And Sark gets the guy he wanted in the first place 

I don't think we will really get an idea how Glasscock is doing for a least 1 or 2 full cycles.

Chang got a lot of love but he helped shape a roster that had more scholarship WR's than OL....

[Tex-19 2872]

Samples is gonna have quite the decision on his hands - go to TCU with Dykes and stay in DFW but program upgrade, probably can stay home at SMU with a new coach (Lashlee getting buzz), or peace out to a bigger program, likely several options. Would imagine he can get higher titles at TCU or SMU while staying in DFW, but obviously potential benefits to a bigger program.

[Thiefery 5017]

21 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Samples is gonna have quite the decision on his hands - go to TCU with Dykes and stay in DFW but program upgrade, probably can stay home at SMU with a new coach (Lashlee getting buzz), or peace out to a bigger program, likely several options. Would imagine he can get higher titles at TCU or SMU while staying in DFW, but obviously potential benefits to a bigger program.

Smart money would be him staying with Samples, or even heading here.  WRs get used in both systems unlike the other school that's being mentioned

[HtownHorn 14760]

3 hours ago, closetohumping said:

Sark dumped most of Herman's guys right?  I thought Herman had a pretty good support staff.

The lack of talented players on this roster clearly indicates the opposite.

[Vertigo 20302]

A Samples for Coleman switch might be the best thing we could do from a recruiting perspective. 

I don't believe Choate is truly an issue. Our linebackers have sucked because we are playing a fucking walkon with cement shoes that gets run at every play. DMO has been a plus player when he is on the field. 

[Tex-19 2872]

There are quite a few interesting WR coaches potentially available this offseason - Samples, Keary Colbert, Mickey Joseph, and Billy Gonzalez all on staffs in transition (Dennis Simmons from OU too if you ask LSU message boards lol). Good time for Sark to make a move there. 

[Mother mopar 3323]

Didn't sark make a run at the OU WR coach?

[Tex-19 2872]

3 minutes ago, Mother mopar said:

Didn't sark make a run at the OU WR coach?

I remember that being rumored at least. They are reportedly close friends from their time as teammates at BYU.

Despite my previous post, I have a feeling Coleman survives one more year. Bigger fish to fry on defense and Sark will likely try to make as few changes as possible.

[Bevo14 8358]

2 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

I remember that being rumored at least. They are reportedly close friends from their time as teammates at BYU.

Despite my previous post, I have a feeling Coleman survives one more year. Bigger fish to fry on defense and Sark will likely try to make as few changes as possible.

I think he'll unload Coleman. He's the only guy on the offensive side of the ball that needs to go. Swap Joseph or Gideon for Jimmy Lake and there ya go.

[BurntOrange&White 39956]

1 minute ago, Bevo14 said:

I think he'll unload Coleman. He's the only guy on the offensive side of the ball that needs to go. Swap Joseph or Gideon for Jimmy Lake and there ya go.

Letting go of Coleman before signing day if you have your guy lined up already won’t make a difference in NSD1 imo. 

[Hookem2147 21346]

There are two non-TE positions where Banks has essentially taken over recruiting. Those are the two spots where position coach changes are likely about to happen....

[Tex-19 2872]

5 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

There are two non-TE positions where Banks has essentially taken over recruiting. Those are the two spots where position coach changes are likely about to happen....

Assuming you don't want to say which ones, but I feel pretty confident guessing one of those positions. Not sure on the other.

[Hookem2147 21346]

Just now, Tex-19 said:

Assuming you don't want to say which ones, but I feel pretty confident guessing one of those positions. Not sure on the other.

It's WR and CB. Not afraid to say it.

Joseph has contributed absolutely nothing recruiting wise. Nada. He is the highest paid DB coach who doesn't have the DC tag in the country. We had to take him off of Denver Harris and hand over the reigns to Davis and Banks.

[Tex-19 2872]

1 minute ago, Hookem2147 said:

It's WR and CB. Not afraid to say it.

Joseph has contributed absolutely nothing recruiting wise. Nada. He is the highest paid DB coach who doesn't have the DC tag in the country. We had to take him off of Denver Harris and hand over the reigns to Davis and Banks.

Gotcha. I figured WR was one. Joseph not a big surprise as #2. Other than maybe PK, those would be my top 2 to replace, for on-field results and recruiting. 

Outrageous that Joseph makes more than Corey Raymond smh. Wonder if we'd even try for him or Lake. Know both have rumored off-field questions. Whoever it is, they still need to be a good coach not just a recruiter (Terry seems like neither).

[closetohumping 17456]

42 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

I remember that being rumored at least. They are reportedly close friends from their time as teammates at BYU.

Despite my previous post, I have a feeling Coleman survives one more year. Bigger fish to fry on defense and Sark will likely try to make as few changes as possible.

I’d bet on Coleman being here next year

[Etexhorn13 3052]

3 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I’d bet on Coleman being here next year

Like, say, $1000?

[LTtxfan 49329]

27 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

It's WR and CB. Not afraid to say it.

Joseph has contributed absolutely nothing recruiting wise. Nada. He is the highest paid DB coach who doesn't have the DC tag in the country. We had to take him off of Denver Harris and hand over the reigns to Davis and Banks.

 

Glad those two spots (WR, CB) are on 2yr contracts...

Fyi... Best info I could find on assistants' contracts

• DC Pete Kwiatkowski got a 3-year deal at $1.7 million per year with no annual raise
• OC/OL coach Kyle Flood: 3 years — $1 million (2021), $1.175 million (2022), $1.25 million (2023)
• ST/TEs coach Jeff Banks: 3 years — $1 million (2021), $1.05 million (2022), $1.1 million (2023)
• DL coach Bo Davis: 3 years — $875,000 (2021), $900,000 (2022), $925,000 (2023)
• Pass game coordinator/CBs coach Terry Joseph: 2 years — $750,000 (2021), $800,000 (2022)
• Running Game Coordinator/RBs coach Stan Drayton received a 2-year deal at $650,000 per year
• Co-DC/ILBs coach Jeff Choate: 2 years — $500,000 (2021), $575,000 (2022)
• WRs coach Andre Coleman: 2 years — $450,000 (2021), $500,000 (2022)
• Safeties coach Blake Gideon: 2 years — $400,000 (2021), $425,000 (2022)
• QBs Coach AJ Milwee    (unavailable)

Head strength coach Torre Becton: 2 years — $500,000 (2021), $525,000 (2022)

[LTtxfan 49329]

6 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I’d bet on Coleman being here next year

Maybe Coleman moves to an off-the-field analyst role -- he's just not a good recruiter

[GTX Horn 1710]

28 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Gotcha. I figured WR was one. Joseph not a big surprise as #2. Other than maybe PK, those would be my top 2 to replace, for on-field results and recruiting. 

Outrageous that Joseph makes more than Corey Raymond smh. Wonder if we'd even try for him or Lake. Know both have rumored off-field questions. Whoever it is, they still need to be a good coach not just a recruiter (Terry seems like neither).

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought I’d read somewhere on here that PK and Lake aren’t on the best of terms which is what led to PK ultimately coming here.

[UDontKnow 10447]

21 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I’d bet on Coleman being here next year

[Tex-19 2872]

1 hour ago, closetohumping said:

I’d bet on Coleman being here next year

You think he will or won't be here? But nah I could easily see it going either way. He should be gone.

Maybe @closetojumping wants to go double or nothing with you

Edited November 23, 2021 by Tex-19

[Elmer_Fudd 22311]

This has all the makings of Samples going to aggy and we stick with Coleman.

[Hornbeliever 712]

3 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

This has all the makings of Samples going to aggy and we stick with Coleman.

If a decade trend is enough of a  statistical sample, i think you forgot Xavier transferring.

[Ricky Butler 2731]

15 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

This has all the makings of Samples going to aggy and we stick with Coleman.

Explain this to me.

[taybo20 2878]

I never cared for Joseph in the first place so it meh to me if he leaves, but seems good since he can’t recruit anything lol

[BrazilHorn 6628]

9 minutes ago, taybo20 said:

I never cared for Joseph in the first place so it meh to me if he leaves, but seems good since he can’t recruit anything lol

Seriously how you have a secondary coach who cannot recruit is beyond me.

[Tex Pete 20429]

10 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

Seriously how you have a secondary coach who cannot recruit is beyond me.

If he could recruit, he’d be a primary coach. 
 

[HateYouAndMyself 828]

2 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

If he could recruit, he’d be a primary coach. 
 

[NorLa Horns 1458]

I assume its known we are going for Samples. That would mean we are lookong to replace an offensive coach. Either RB or WR. Now there is tge yearly rumor of Drayton going back to the NFL. 

But i think we would all agree  Coleman would be the target. So  if we are looking to replace him, then we are looking to replace him, regardless of us getting Samples or not. 

[Tex-19 2872]

23 minutes ago, NorLa Horns said:

I assume its known we are going for Samples. That would mean we are lookong to replace an offensive coach. Either RB or WR. Now there is tge yearly rumor of Drayton going back to the NFL. 

But i think we would all agree  Coleman would be the target. So  if we are looking to replace him, then we are looking to replace him, regardless of us getting Samples or not. 

New Drayton rumors are surfacing? Sounds about right that the one position coach doing well would leave

[Had Enough 2083]

DMO has been a plus player when he is on the field. 

You don’t watch the games do you?

[alphahorn 1637]

Terry Joseph better be gone and we need to do a full court press on Corey Raymond. It's time he moves on and we need to money whip him into saying yes.  Coleman is a goner, can't believe he was retained.

Edited November 24, 2021 by alphahorn

[Thiefery 5017]

9 minutes ago, alphahorn said:

Terry Joseph better be gone and we need to do a full court press on Corey Raymond. It's time he moves on and we need to money whip him into saying yes.  Coleman is a goner, can't believe he was retained.

maybe we let whomever the DC is.. make that call first?

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2652]

4 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

 

Glad those two spots (WR, CB) are on 2yr contracts...

Fyi... Best info I could find on assistants' contracts

• DC Pete Kwiatkowski got a 3-year deal at $1.7 million per year with no annual raise
• OC/OL coach Kyle Flood: 3 years — $1 million (2021), $1.175 million (2022), $1.25 million (2023)
• ST/TEs coach Jeff Banks: 3 years — $1 million (2021), $1.05 million (2022), $1.1 million (2023)
• DL coach Bo Davis: 3 years — $875,000 (2021), $900,000 (2022), $925,000 (2023)
• Pass game coordinator/CBs coach Terry Joseph: 2 years — $750,000 (2021), $800,000 (2022)
• Running Game Coordinator/RBs coach Stan Drayton received a 2-year deal at $650,000 per year
• Co-DC/ILBs coach Jeff Choate: 2 years — $500,000 (2021), $575,000 (2022)
• WRs coach Andre Coleman: 2 years — $450,000 (2021), $500,000 (2022)
• Safeties coach Blake Gideon: 2 years — $400,000 (2021), $425,000 (2022)
• QBs Coach AJ Milwee    (unavailable)

Head strength coach Torre Becton: 2 years — $500,000 (2021), $525,000 (2022)

Drayton is really underpaid…

[HateYouAndMyself 828]

10 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

maybe we let whomever the DC is.. make that call first?

Any DC who wanted to keep Joseph on staff should be disqualified from fucking consideration. So no 

[RGBIII 22840]

4 hours ago, closetohumping said:

I’d bet on Coleman being here next year

the rest of surly after taking your garbage bets

[Big Woodrows 4200]

Interesting note from IT regarding Jordan Nabors - seems noteworthy that they are openly speculating as to the effect Coleman's termination would have on recruits 

Spoiler

Another factor to keep an eye on in the Nabors recruitment is that his primary relationship is with WR coach Andre Coleman. As IT mentioned on Monday in the scoop there will likely be a coaching shuffle of some degree and if Coleman ends up out at Texas, that ripple effect could see Nabors wind up sticking in Waco or even heading west to Lubbock.

 

[texasstrong12 4668]

Nabors isn’t going to move the needle for anybody on keeping Coleman. 
 

 

[ztejas 43526]

I don't see Texas landing Samp. I don't think it makes sense for either party.

But I'm happy to be wrong. 

[RGBIII 22840]

14 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I don't see Texas landing Samp. I don't think it makes sense for either party.

But I'm happy to be wrong. 

How does it not make sense for either party? It’s better recruiting and possibly coaching (how could it be worse) for Texas and a major raise and promotion for Samples. What am I missing?