2022 Texas Coaching/Support Staff Thread

[HornsofBevo 122]

GP has always come off as petty but I didn’t know if he still had the drive to coach. I think coming in as a DC would give him the perfect opportunity to prove himself and get revenge on TCU admins

Edited December 2, 2021 by HornsofBevo

[Scholz 12,312]

[BurntOrange&White 42,005]

22 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Yeah its one thing to drop this nugget in a Humidor or some shit - but running it as its own thing leads me to believe this might have some real substance to it.

Can't see Gary coming here as anything less than a DC. Maybe the thought process is to just let Gary run the defense and Sark the offense/overall team? I can't see keeping PK if Gary comes on board. Even though Gary is still getting paid by TCU I can't see him taking less than 1.5 million. Would we pay PK and Gary almost 4 million total? IDK?

Edited December 2, 2021 by BurntOrange&White

[BurntOrange&White 42,005]

4 minutes ago, HornsofBevo said:

GP has always come off as petty but I didn’t know if he still had the drive to coach. I think coming in as a DC would give him the perfect opportunity to prove himself and get revenge on TCU admins

TCU asking him to retire and him telling them fuck off so they mutually part ways may have lit a fire under his ass.

[UncleSonny 6,798]

8 minutes ago, BurntOrangeBlooded15 said:

Co-DC/CB - Patterson (play caller)

Co-DC/ OLB - PK

ILB/Run Game Coordinator - Choate

DL - Davis

S - Gideon

 

Fuck off - Joseph

PK is stealing money with this setup but at least there is a chance our defense that wouldn't be a complete joke. 

[HornsofBevo 122]

2 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

PK is stealing money with this setup but at least there is a chance our defense that wouldn't be a complete joke. 

If this were to actually happen I think PK is gone and GP is given the chance to assemble his own staff. I don’t see him sharing titles with anyone. 

[closetohumping 17,826]

Just now, HornsofBevo said:

If this were to actually happen I think PK is gone and GP is given the chance to assemble his own staff. I don’t see him sharing titles with anyone. 

Not just that he wouldn’t have play calling duties.  Demotion

[Duane Moore 5,773]

27 minutes ago, Viper said:

Patterson would be on a mission like Steve Zissou against the Jaguar Shark for eating his best friend Esteban. 

[BurntOrange&White 42,005]

19 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Not just that he wouldn’t have play calling duties. Another Demotion

Fify

[ztejas 44,281]

55 minutes ago, Sgt. Slaughter said:

Hopefully we don’t use him on the recruiting circuit or he’ll sweat through grandmas couch trying not to negatively recruit himself.

"Yeah - see - you don't want your kid somewhere like Texas - they just don't run a good program there."

"Sir you're wearing a branded Texas polo. You're a coach for them."

[JesusSweatDuck 18,144]

If this happens it feels more like a Greg Robinson hire.  Off the field analyst that could quickly be promoted to DC if PK keeps fucking up

[CurlyDumps 4,664]

37 minutes ago, BurntOrangeBlooded15 said:

DP

“Fuck Joseph” twice though.

[Hookem2147 22,050]

If we wanted to bring in Patterson as sole DC you would have to think we would have already gotten rid of PK. Patterson is unemployed so he could have joined the day after the season if he wanted. Makes me think they want to try to potentially pair PK and Patterson together.

[LTtxfan 50,035]

3 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

If this happens it feels more like a Greg Robinson hire.  Off the field analyst that could quickly be promoted to DC if PK keeps fucking up

Yeah, like how GP used Jerry Kill at tcu.  

If GP is added to Longhorns Football Staff, I'm like...

[elguapo 4,620]

4 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

If we wanted to bring in Patterson as sole DC you would have to think we would have already gotten rid of PK. Patterson is unemployed so he could have joined the day after the season if he wanted. Makes me think they want to try to potentially pair PK and Patterson together.

Not necessarily with NSD1 coming up in less than 2 weeks

[Laga4 1,270]

9 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

If this happens it feels more like a Greg Robinson hire.  Off the field analyst that could quickly be promoted to DC if PK keeps fucking up

This makes the most sense.  

[Genghis 641]

Maybe CDC is selling GP the ability to have way more exposure with the Austin live music scene so if he comes in as co-dc he would have way more time for shows than if he had to run the whole thing himself. "Hey Gare, let PK do some of the scutwork while you write a bitchin takedown of TCU and I know a guy that will let you headline Friday night downtown during the bye week."

[texasstrong12 4,668]

I don’t know what happens but Patterson is definitely a vindictive asshole. Him wanting to beat the shit out the team that just fired him wouldn’t surprise me. 

[Skipper 6,412]

Unless GP doesn't want a full time gig (which would be understandable) I can't fathom him working as an "analyst" and not being in charge.   How long has it been since that guy hasn't had the final say on a defensive call?  It's not like he's a young coach trying to rehabilitate himself or as though he needs the money.   Maybe I'm wrong but I would guess he is the DC or nothing.

[Bevo14 8,470]

You guys in Austin better start hoarding towels.

 

Edited December 2, 2021 by Bevo14

[utexas8 1,718]

Never paid attention to Tcu until they played Texas. But are his defenses still good? They look good playing us, but you know.

[Skipper 6,412]

1 minute ago, texasstrong12 said:

I don’t know what happens but Patterson is definitely a vindictive asshole. Him wanting to beat the shit out the team that just fired him wouldn’t surprise me. 

This I 100% agree with.  If he comes in some capacity I think hiring Dykes as his replacement probably pushed him over the edge.

[cafe society 2,903]

Somebody call DeBoer and have him offer PK the UW DC job.

Edited December 2, 2021 by cafe society
offer, not off. Freudian slip.

[Skipper 6,412]

1 minute ago, utexas8 said:

Never paid attention to Tcu until they played Texas. But are his defenses still good? They look good playing us, but you know.

They have been pretty shitty recently.  But also not as talented and constantly injured the last couple of years.  At least I believe that has been a big part of it.  I don't think he can work a miracle.  But he probably also wouldn't field the absolute worst Texas defense I can recall as we witnessed this year.

[texasstrong12 4,668]

13 minutes ago, Skipper said:

They have been pretty shitty recently.  But also not as talented and constantly injured the last couple of years.  At least I believe that has been a big part of it.  I don't think he can work a miracle.  But he probably also wouldn't field the absolute worst Texas defense I can recall as we witnessed this year.

Patterson hasn’t been shitty recently other than this year. He’s produced top 25ish adjusted defenses almost every year except this season. 

This was discussed in the recruiting thread a while back. Maybe somebody can post the FEI data again. 

Patterson is also one of the best at playing the transfer portal game. He makes entirely too much sense assuming it’s actually a possibility. 

Edited December 2, 2021 by texasstrong12

[JesusSweatDuck 18,144]

7 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Unless GP doesn't want a full time gig (which would be understandable) I can't fathom him working as an "analyst" and not being in charge.   How long has it been since that guy hasn't had the final say on a defensive call?  It's not like he's a young coach trying to rehabilitate himself or as though he needs the money.   Maybe I'm wrong but I would guess he is the DC or nothing.

Does Patterson and TCU have an offset clause?  If so, why not take an Analyst position with low stress and get paid the exact same.  All while being able to punish those who fired you.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18,991]

19 minutes ago, Genghis said:

Maybe CDC is selling GP the ability to have way more exposure with the Austin live music scene so if he comes in as co-dc he would have way more time for shows than if he had to run the whole thing himself. "Hey Gare, let PK do some of the scutwork while you write a bitchin takedown of TCU and I know a guy that will let you headline Friday night downtown during the bye week."

This was my thought as well. "Yo fat Gare, we can get you the Wednesday night gig at the Spoke, double-ply burnt orange dry fit underwear, and all the Franklin's you can eat if you can fix our fucked up secondary."

[LTtxfan 50,035]

14 minutes ago, texasstrong12 said:

Patterson is also one of the best at playing the transfer portal game. He makes entirely too much sense assuming it’s actually a possibility. 

Having GP to help with player evaluation of players in portal might be pretty valuable... 

[cafe society 2,903]

Better make it quick, if Elko gets the Duke gig I bet Fisher is immediately on the phone to Patterson.

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Edited December 2, 2021 by cafe society
tried to delete the quote since I didn't quote anything

[Hiphopopotamos 21,192]

Several on IT have pointed out that Gary's defenses were at their absolute best when Gary was running the backend and Bumpas was in charge of the fronts.  When Bumpas retired in 2015, the defense started going downhill. 

 

Could have a similar situation here with PK running the fronts and Gary in charge of secondary..

[LTtxfan 50,035]

16 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

Does Patterson and TCU have an offset clause?  If so, why not take an Analyst position with low stress and get paid the exact same.  All while being able to punish those who fired you.

Yeah, make toads pay most of GP salary for at least a couple years...  😋

[Bevo14 8,470]

2 minutes ago, cafe society said:

Better make it quick, if Elko gets the Duke gig I bet Fisher is immediately on the phone to Patterson.

 

If he wants to fuck TCU, then they're not going to be much competition. 

[Hiphopopotamos 21,192]

2 minutes ago, cafe society said:

Better make it quick, if Elko gets the Duke gig I bet Fisher is immediately on the phone to Patterson.

 

I wonder what Gary thinks of Jimbo.  They won't be able to money-whip him in that he will be getting paid tens of millions by TCU.  So would Gary want to go work for a guy that routinely threw Elko under the bus this year?

[Beef 128]

Maybe GP is put in place in case CDC wants to move on from Sark mid-season. 

[RaysBoomBoomRoom 5,742]

I don't see how you can get a much better situation than a Patterson/Pk coordinated defense. 

[Getafix 29,461]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SydneyCarton 49,532]

2 hours ago, Duane Moore said:

I was, thank you. Sorry for contributing to an off topic tangent. 
 

I do have a hard time seeing GP come to Texas, but after TCU fired him and hired the man who tried to murder Jerry Kill, he may want revenge on the Frogs. 

I didn't realize TCU had hired a coach named Cancer Seizure to replace Patterson. I thought it was Sonny Dykes. 

[Spaceman Spiff 408]

VY has been ready for Sweaty Gary to come to Austin for years now.

 

 

[Ricky Butler 2,809]

51 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

I wonder what Gary thinks of Jimbo.  They won't be able to money-whip him in that he will be getting paid tens of millions by TCU.  So would Gary want to go work for a guy that routinely threw Elko under the bus this year?

Coaches don't like working with Jimbo because he eats all their adderall.

[Tex-19 3,013]

SIAP but can someone fill me in on wtf happened with TCU's defense this year and whether it's been like that other years recently? Somehow considerably worse than ours statistically (#117 DFEI yikes vs #62)

[texasstrong12 4,668]

6 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

SIAP but can someone fill me in on wtf happened with TCU's defense this year and whether it's been like that other years recently? Somehow considerably worse than ours statistically (#117 DFEI yikes vs #62)

Patterson had a top 20 FEI defense all 3 years prior to this season.

 

 

[Viper 12,221]

53 minutes ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

I don't see how you can get a much better situation than a Patterson/Pk coordinated defense. 

a Patterson coordinated defense?

[HateYouAndMyself 828]

Some of you are missing the single best reason to hire Gary Patterson.

If it doesn't work out, we get to fucking fire GARY PATTERSON. 

[Tex-19 3,013]

5 minutes ago, texasstrong12 said:

Patterson had a top 20 FEI defense all 3 years prior to this season.

 

 

Yeah that's good. So what's the working theory on this year's collapse?

[texasstrong12 4,668]

2 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Yeah that's good. So what's the working theory on this year's collapse?

I need to go back and look but they had a ton of injuries on defense prior to the Texas game. 

[BurntOrange&White 42,005]

4 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Yeah that's good. So what's the working theory on this year's collapse?

I think injuries

[RGBIII 23,020]

Patterson would be such an incredible hire which is why it probably wont happen, we dont get nice things. Plus, if the defense sucks next year, you fire PK midseason and let Patterson try and fix it. If that doesnt work you are cleaning house anyway and it only cost us a large shipment of towels

[Viper 12,221]

10 minutes ago, HateYouAndMyself said:

Some of you are missing the single best reason to hire Gary Patterson.

If it doesn't work out, we get to fucking fire GARY PATTERSON. 

[JesusSweatDuck 18,144]

30 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

Coaches don't like working with Jimbo because he eats all their adderall.

but they get to fuck his wife

[JesusSweatDuck 18,144]

3 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Patterson would be such an incredible hire which is why it probably wont happen, we dont get nice things. Plus, if the defense sucks next year, you fire PK midseason and let Patterson try and fix it. If that doesnt work you are cleaning house anyway and it only cost us a large shipment of towels

If we're loading up on towels do we reach out to Mangino while we're at it?