2022 Texas Coaching/Support Staff Thread

[Hookem2147 22,051]

Apparently Tosh Lupoi is headed to Florida since Bo turned them down.

[Chuckie Finster 23,099]

1 minute ago, Tex-19 said:

Doubt a playoff team is giving him a DC role

To be fair, the note didn't say it was a playoff team... just that the movement would occur post-playoffs.  

[Tex-19 3,013]

Just now, Chuckie Finster said:

To be fair, the note didn't say it was a playoff team... just that the movement would occur post-playoffs.  

Right but why else would it occur post-playoffs. No reason for other teams to wait.

[RaysBoomBoomRoom 5,742]

Yeah I just don’t see it. The man walked off the field vs kstate throwing up the double horns. This just sounds like Bo trying to get a raise. CDC doesn’t lose assistant coaches

Edited December 16, 2021 by RaysBoomBoomRoom

[Hookem2147 22,051]

Davis makes close to $900k per year right now. Some school would probably have to blow him away money wise for him to leave.

[Chuckie Finster 23,099]

4 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Right but why else would it occur post-playoffs. No reason for other teams to wait.

Playoff Team X knows they're losing their DL coach for some reason after the season.

Their planned replacement is from non-playoff Team Y.

Team Y then hires Bo Davis and gives him DC tag.

I dunno, not that far-fetched.

[dcar00 14,997]

there are 2 coaches we need to keep at all costs at this point.  Davis and Flood.

[The Gimp 354]

47 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Herman is close to OC'ing his first NFL game.  All of the Bears Coordinators (OC, DC, and ST's) are in COVID protocol.  

Does their quarterback know he'll be in concussion protocol next week?

[Ricky Butler 2,809]

14 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

there are 2 coaches we need to keep at all costs at this point.  Davis and Flood.

I would not let Bo Davis call the defense to keep him if that's what this hypothetical offer is. HIs recruiting is lights out, and we'd have to find a stud to replace him.

[dcar00 14,997]

Just now, Ricky Butler said:

I would not let Bo Davis call the defense to keep him if that's what this hypothetical offer is. HIs recruiting is lights out, and we'd have to find a stud to replace him.

we can make him co-DC and pay him more.  If he wants to call plays then I guess Sark better start looking fast.

[Ricky Butler 2,809]

Just now, dcar00 said:

we can make him co-DC and pay him more.  If he wants to call plays then I guess Sark better start looking fast.

For sure on titles and money. I wasn't thinking you'd include calling plays in "by any means necessary."

[dcar00 14,997]

Just now, Ricky Butler said:

For sure on titles and money. I wasn't thinking you'd include calling plays in "by any means necessary."

I said at all costs and I was literally meaning money.  fucking pay him more than PK at this point.  that guy hasn't done dick to earn his pay and we are talking to Gary Patterson because of it.

[Laga4 1,270]

6 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

I would not let Bo Davis call the defense to keep him if that's what this hypothetical offer is. HIs recruiting is lights out, and we'd have to find a stud to replace him.

Has he failed at calling a defense or just no experience?

[SydneyCarton 49,534]

42 minutes ago, RaysBoomBoomRoom said:

Bo makes a lot of money, that buyout is huge for a position coach.

And it rarely gets paid BY the position coach, so...irrelevant. 

[SydneyCarton 49,534]

30 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

there are 2 coaches we need to keep at all costs at this point.  Davis and Flood.

And Banks. 

[dcar00 14,997]

30 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

And Banks. 

Fair point. Think it falls flood bo banks in that order. Mainly because our OL has been such a shitshow for 10+ years that I hope he can fix it. Our DL seems to have been reasonable thru multiple coaches and if flood doesnt fix the OL then sark fails anyway.

[Thiefery 5,112]

hoping Bo has a better season in '22.. Coburn continued to regress and with the shit show at DE/Jack.. guys like Moro and Collins had to go back in forth from outside to inside.  Think they excelled playing closer to the ball when given the chance.

[UnhappilyMarried 844]

For all the talk of Carrington being overrated, has even 1 single signee mentioned Harris as a positive factor in their recruitment? 

[BurntOrange&White 42,011]

3 minutes ago, UnhappilyMarried said:

For all the talk of Carrington being overrated, has even 1 single signee mentioned Harris as a positive factor in their recruitment? 

Harris sucks.

[Hookem2147 22,051]

 

[UnhappilyMarried 844]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Harris sucks.

I would agree, but he’s gone from volunteer assistant, to asst player personnel guy, to director of recruiting, to Temple RB coach in 5-6 years. Obviously his bosses have been happy with something 

[texifornia 59,064]

1 minute ago, UnhappilyMarried said:

I would agree, but he’s gone from volunteer assistant, to asst player personnel guy, to director of recruiting, to Temple RB coach in 5-6 years. Obviously his bosses have been happy with something 

He's going to Temple? Hallelujah, we can seriously upgrade recruiting on the staff.

[SydneyCarton 49,534]

1 minute ago, texifornia said:

He's going to Temple? Hallelujah, we can seriously upgrade recruiting on the staff.

/checks roster to see Andre Coleman never left. 

[UnhappilyMarried 844]

4 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

 

That guy’s timeline is a complete mess, but he did retweet Rod about the Steelers coach

[Hookem2147 22,051]

9 minutes ago, UnhappilyMarried said:

For all the talk of Carrington being overrated, has even 1 single signee mentioned Harris as a positive factor in their recruitment? 

Carrington was used as a crutch by the last staff because they had so many coaches who couldn't hold their weight in recruiting. I honestly don't want 15 kids in my class naming the director of recruiting as a reason they signed here and that's what it turned into with Carrington. I think Carrington is partially to blame for the awful mental evals/bust rate of the last few Herman classes. The director of recruiting should be building relationships with kids and then passing them off to position coaches and the head coach to close the deal.

This staff actually has dudes who can go to toe to toe with other staffs in high profile recruitments. Harris' twitter games he tries to play is weird and he isn't as good with connecting with some recruits as Carrington was. He has some learning to do and Sark would be smart to beef up Harris' department to get him additional help or let him walk to Temple and get a fresh start.

[RaysBoomBoomRoom 5,742]

Just now, UnhappilyMarried said:

For all the talk of Carrington being overrated, has even 1 single signee mentioned Harris as a positive factor in their recruitment? 

Well, Arch manning likes him and so did guys like Evan Stewart, Derrick Brown, Finkley, and Malik Murphy. He is just not as good as Carrington and lacks the creativity necessary for his position. I do not think he would be a terrible hire, we could do worse, but we can definitely do better. In reality, our entire support staff apparatus needs to be improved. Other SEC programs have multiple guys like Harris and Carrington. 

Gilbert also wouldn't be so bad because he would be a real force with guys in state, hes not only well connected with coaches but I know for a fact that hes been reaching out to trainers too. He is a really well liked guy by all. And he is very organized in his approach. For an example, at Lancaster High, he had it set up to where guys were on multiple year waitlist to get on staff under him. He would build everything to where it was like a constant chain of internal promotions so he always maintained his culture. Many of his guys are now head coaches. I personally know a lot about Gilbert and im just telling you that would be very well received by THSFB coaches. He has the all relationships established that you could hope for.

 

[burdine 522]

if we are promoting from within, Gilbert seems more ready than Harris.

 

Now is that what Gilbert wants, who knows?  He might like it where he is.

[texasstrong12 4,668]

2 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Apparently Tosh Lupoi is headed to Florida since Bo turned them down.

Napier is putting together a very good staff. He's going to win at Florida. 

 

[Etexhorn13 3,102]

1 minute ago, texasstrong12 said:

Napier is putting together a very good staff. He's going to win at Florida. 

 

He values his staff highly. Pretty sure one of his demands for UL was having highest non P5 staff budget, and they were happy to give that to him while he was there. 

[cafe society 2,903]

Boot PK.  Make GP DC.  Play his aggressive 4-2-5.  Bo turns the DL loose.  Extend Bo, Flood and Banks.  We have an opportunity for concrete progress, but we need those guys.

[Hookem2147 22,051]

Nevermind on Lupoi

 

[Butch Had Not 3,066]

38 minutes ago, texasstrong12 said:

Napier is putting together a very good staff. He's going to win at Florida. 

 

Raymond

Tosh (nevermind)

Who else?

Edited December 16, 2021 by Butch Had Not

[Js1 87,288]

20 minutes ago, cafe society said:

Boot PK.  Make GP DC.  Play his aggressive 4-2-5.  Bo turns the DL loose.  Extend Bo, Flood and Banks.  We have an opportunity for concrete progress, but we need those guys.

Pretty sure that ain't happening to PK.  Sark has said several times some of these players are on their 3rd or 4th DC.  Instability in coaching/philosophy has been a big problem at Texas for the roster.

Having GP advise/consult over PK's shoulder is a best-case scenario.  He continues to fuck up, he's gone.  But Sark is not going to force another DC with different philosophy onto these players yet after 1 season.  

Edited December 16, 2021 by Js1

[texasstrong12 4,668]

Just now, Butch Had Not said:

Raymond

Tosh

Who else?

Keary Colbert. 

[Zhorn96 1,836]

6 hours ago, DanTheHorn said:

Probably just echoing Rod Babers since Rod made the case for this guy yesterday on the radio yesterday. Says that guy has taken some kid without much talent and made him an award finalist at WR. He also talked about the guy gaining respect for innovative approach. I would assume Rod was the first to put the name out there and Roach is just compiling of list of names he has heard in different places.

Marion has been a hot name for a couple years.  Very innovative offensive mind and young so the jury was out.  Sounds like Pitt gave him a shot... no idea on his recruiting chops but a lot of folks thought he was a future OC somewhere

[Duane Moore 5,773]

1 minute ago, Zhorn96 said:

Marion has been a hot name for a couple years.  Very innovative offensive mind and young so the jury was out.  Sounds like Pitt gave him a shot... no idea on his recruiting chops but a lot of folks thought he was a future OC somewhere

If he is so great why isn’t Pitt promoting him to OC after Mark Whipple left?

[Handcruser 2,816]

Bo Davis thoughts -
Maybe the NFL is a player here
Perhaps bo doesn’t want to coach PK’s scheme (that makes sense to me) and is looking around.

[Zhorn96 1,836]

2 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

If he is so great why isn’t Pitt promoting him to OC after Mark Whipple left?

no idea?  I just remember hearing about him a few years ago as "an up and comer".  He was OC at a couple of FCS schools, then WR coach at Hawaii and Pitt the past 2 years.  Maybe he aint all that...my point was, I had actually heard of him and there was buzz around the dude the past few years.  I have no idea if he is any good

[Michael Knight 13,239]

3 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Davis makes close to $900k per year right now. Some school would probably have to blow him away money wise for him to leave.

Or a school with a great place to live like Oklahoma or Texas Tech

[Bill Lumbergh 7,351]

Bo Davis thoughts -
Maybe the NFL is a player here
Perhaps bo doesn’t want to coach PK’s scheme (that makes sense to me) and is looking around.

This year suggested to me that none of our defensive coaches want to coach pk's scheme...including pk.

[texasstrong12 4,668]

Rumors circulating on LSU boards that Herman could be in play for their OC hire. 

[RaysBoomBoomRoom 5,742]

Just now, texasstrong12 said:

Rumors circulating on LSU boards that Herman could be in play for their OC hire. 

Wow that could actually work

[FreeHorn 1,327]

1 minute ago, texasstrong12 said:

Rumors circulating on LSU boards that Herman could be in play for their OC hire. 

I’d love to see it cause Herman and Kelly would eventually blow up. No way those two assholes could survive working with each other. 

[Duane Moore 5,773]

35 minutes ago, Zhorn96 said:

no idea?  I just remember hearing about him a few years ago as "an up and comer".  He was OC at a couple of FCS schools, then WR coach at Hawaii and Pitt the past 2 years.  Maybe he aint all that...my point was, I had actually heard of him and there was buzz around the dude the past few years.  I have no idea if he is any good

Sorry, wasn’t calling you out specifically. Rod Babers has been pushing this guy as well and is enamored with his X’s and O’s chops, which isn’t really what we need in a RB coach anyway. Even assuming he is a great offensive mind, it begs the question of why Pitt wouldn’t just promote him. 

[conVINCEd 21,477]

2 minutes ago, FreeHorn said:

I’d love to see it cause Herman and Kelly would eventually blow up. No way those two assholes could survive working with each other. 

Counterpoint:  it worked out ok with Urban.

[Tex-19 3,013]

I would think Gilbert left Lancaster wanting a less involved, off-field role. Also has he ever coached RBs / can he add value on-field? It's not all about recruiting.

I'm actually not opposed to the Harris promotion if he can actually coach, which I have no clue on. He may not be a plus Director of Recruiting, but he'd likely be a good recruiter relative to other position coaches (like Drayton).

I'm liking this Pitt name although he seems like a better WR coach candidate tbh.

Edited December 16, 2021 by Tex-19

[cafe society 2,903]

49 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Pretty sure that ain't happening to PK.  Sark has said several times some of these players are on their 3rd or 4th DC.  Instability in coaching/philosophy has been a big problem at Texas for the roster.

Having GP advise/consult over PK's shoulder is a best-case scenario.  He continues to fuck up, he's gone.  But Sark is not going to force another DC with different philosophy onto these players yet after 1 season.  

Yeah, heard that song and dance before with Hand.  Fuck that.  I would rather lose PK than Davis.  We don't need these stud DLs coming here only to provide roadblocks for our - checks notes - inept LB play.  At this point, I have the same amount of fucks to give about the optics of firing him as I do the optics of our NIL deals to the rest of the country.  Zero. Zip.  Zilch.  

[Hank_Hill 20,106]

9 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

Counterpoint:  it worked out ok with Urban.

Herman was Urbans bitch and idolized him. He wouldn’t be coming in to LSU with the same attitude 

[utexas8 1,718]

I’m surprised by the OC stuff. I figured he could get another head coaching job. Even Charlie got USF after Texas.

[texasstrong12 4,668]

1 minute ago, utexas8 said:

I’m surprised by the OC stuff. I figured he could get another head coaching job. Even Charlie got USF after Texas.

Can Herman pass a background check as a head coach?