2022 Texas Coaching/Support Staff Thread

[Tex-19 2869]

Side note but last year Sark hired the son-in-law of the Katy head coach as an analyst. The guy later got an on-field at a small school and left though. Wonder if he tried to bring in another Houston-area connection like that.

[Mason Ramsey 3371]

I would love to hire a Houston equivalent of Chris Gilbert

[Hookem2147 20910]

Just now, Mason Ramsey said:

I would love to hire a Houston equivalent of Chris Gilbert

Would be a good idea. Those guys can pay huge dividends. We don't land Neto without Chris Gilbert. 

If he wants an on-field spot on this staff, I have no problem with it. I wonder if he left Lancaster though because he wanted a lower stress role where he was in the background more.

[Beer Drinker 592]

I hear the lower stress role angle but I don’t see how you could pass up a near $500,000 raise to coach running backs.  

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

1 hour ago, texasstrong12 said:

Keary Colbert. 

That’s a hell of a staff 

[Tex-19 2869]

Every time I see a good WR coach getting a new job (Colbert, Emmett Jones, etc.) I get pissed off. Why is Coleman still here????

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

Just now, Tex-19 said:

Every time I see a good WR coach getting a new job (Colbert, Emmett Jones, etc.) I get pissed off. Why is Coleman still here????

Yeah it’s stupid. Who has he landed for us?

[Hookem2147 20910]

Colbert is meh. Not as good of a recruiter as he is made out to be. USC had to hit the portal hard for WR his last few years (a few of which came from Texas).

Napier will have a good staff though. He's coached under Saban and knows the recruiting game he is going to have to play.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

32 minutes ago, cafe society said:

Yeah, heard that song and dance before with Hand.  Fuck that.  I would rather lose PK than Davis.  We don't need these stud DLs coming here only to provide roadblocks for our - checks notes - inept LB play.  At this point, I have the same amount of fucks to give about the optics of firing him as I do the optics of our NIL deals to the rest of the country.  Zero. Zip.  Zilch.  

PK has a long track record of being an elite of the elite DC.  I am no expert, but I did not see anything schematically that suggested he was an idiot.  I saw us playing walk ons and having a front 7 that had zero ability to pressure the QB or stop the run.

PK should be given a longer leash.

[texifornia 56434]

5 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Every time I see a good WR coach getting a new job (Colbert, Emmett Jones, etc.) I get pissed off. Why is Coleman still here????

 

1 minute ago, Hookem2147 said:

Colbert is meh. Not as good of a recruiter as he is made out to be. USC had to hit the portal hard for WR his last few years (a few of which came from Texas).

Napier will have a good staff though. He's coached under Saban and knows the recruiting game he is going to have to play.

Colbert's got off-field stuff too. He's skating by on past performance and name recognition.

[texasstrong12 4668]

Colbert's recruiting is probably a bit overrated but he's a damn good WR coach. He's helped develop some legit WRs. 

He's about to get another WR in the NFL too in London. 

[Hookem2147 20910]

If you get freak athletes and talented receivers in your room, you are going to have NFL receivers. The guys like Andre Coleman who have to brag on their one success story (Tyler Lockett) over and over to get jobs have huge red flags.

The number 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 job of a WR coach is to recruit. Then further down the priority list it's nice if you can give some technical tips here and there to guys. Things like "teaching guys to get off press coverage" as a requirement for a receivers coach is laughable. That isn't a special coaching skill that only certain guys are able to teach. If you have Xavier Worthy, he is going to get off of press coverage easily. If you have Brennan Eagles and Kai Money, they are going get jammed up at the line and not stand a chance. 

Edited December 16, 2021 by Hookem2147

[RaysBoomBoomRoom 5742]

1 hour ago, Tex-19 said:

I would think Gilbert left Lancaster wanting a less involved, off-field role. Also has he ever coached RBs / can he add value on-field? It's not all about recruiting.

I'm actually not opposed to the Harris promotion if he can actually coach, which I have no clue on. He may not be a plus Director of Recruiting, but he'd likely be a good recruiter relative to other position coaches (like Drayton).

I'm liking this Pitt name although he seems like a better WR coach candidate tbh.

Nope. It was a tough decision for him. He came ultimately because it quadrupled his salary and he got to live in Austin. I’m telling you guys he works really hard. He does what is asked of him and more, ask around and see what Bob Shipley did compared to what Chris Gilbert does 

[Beef 128]

Nope. It was a tough decision for him. He came ultimately because it quadrupled his salary and he got to live in Austin. I’m telling you guys he works really hard. He does what is asked of him and more, ask around and see what Bob Shipley did compared to what Chris Gilbert does 

Put Gilbert on the field. He’s a dude.

[Tex-19 2869]

So would you rather have Gilbert be on-field and find a new HS relations guy, or keep Gilbert recruiting as HS Relations off-field but hire a baller RB coach?

[conVINCEd 21468]

Just now, Tex-19 said:

So would you rather have Gilbert be on-field and find a new HS relations guy, or keep Gilbert recruiting as HS Relations off-field but hire a baller RB coach?

Ask Bijan what he thinks.  Brave new world.

[burdine 522]

I like rewarding competence on the staff with more responsibility if that's what the person wants.

Gilbert seems like a reasonable choice.   I'd be pretty happy with it.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

16 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

Ask Bijan what he thinks.  Brave new world.

Bijan is declaring for the nfl this time next year.  We need someone who can get us the next Bijan.  

[burdine 522]

We need someone who can be a volume recruiter not just for RBs. 

Ideally, this position is one of the best recruiters on offense.

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

Sort of related to us, going forward at least...

"Oregon: Texas A&M associate AD for football Marshall Malchow is headed to join Dan Lanning's staff at Oregon as chief of staff sources tell FootballScoop. Pete Thamel first shared the news this evening. Malchow previously served as director of player personnel at Georgia (with Dan Lanning) where he was recognized by his peers as the Player Personnel director of the year."

 

 

@SydneyCarton @closetojumping

[Hookem2147 20910]

16 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Sort of related to us, going forward at least...

"Oregon: Texas A&M associate AD for football Marshall Malchow is headed to join Dan Lanning's staff at Oregon as chief of staff sources tell FootballScoop. Pete Thamel first shared the news this evening. Malchow previously served as director of player personnel at Georgia (with Dan Lanning) where he was recognized by his peers as the Player Personnel director of the year."

 

 

@SydneyCarton @closetojumping

Malchow is a major, major bagman. That is a big loss no longer how much they spin it.

[HornsTX231994 58]

14 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Malchow is a major, major bagman. That is a big loss no longer how much they spin it.

Once he came over from UGA, that’s when they started getting looks at the guys that normally would go to UGA

[RaysBoomBoomRoom 5742]

I’m surprised that nobody’s mentioned Riley Dodge yet lol

[utexas8 1433]

Malchow is a major, major bagman. That is a big loss no longer how much they spin it.

Not sure how bag game works but can’t they just get another guy and make him the bagman?

I see a lot of people say X is a bagman but can’t anyone be a bagman if you give them the money?

[Tree Fidy 1196]

Not sure how bag game works but can’t they just get another guy and make him the bagman?

I see a lot of people say X is a bagman but can’t anyone be a bagman if you give them the money?

Anyone can commit a crime. Not everyone can get away with it. That’s the key difference.

[Elmer_Fudd 22084]

Surprised we haven't heard anything on the Patterson visit today.

[Hookem2147 20910]

 

[Bodacious Bevo 3575]

I've done some reading up on Marrion, the Pitt WR coach gaining fame for the GoGo offense. I like the idea of adding his system to our staff, but I'm not sure how that marriage with Sark would go. GoGo is based on a lot of triple option concepts and a lot of benefit comes from having your QB as a runner. Then again, it's not like Pickett put up great rushing stats. And having more 2 back sets would be really nice given our personnel. And he describes as a power running, vertical shot philosophy which matches Sark. I kind of see it this way: 

- Adding him for scheme benefit is a unique and big plus. You don't get that from a lot of assistants. His stuff is being copied all over football (Kliff and Riley both used it this past season). He's likely to leave for an OC job pretty quick, but I could see him coming to UT as a growth opportunity. He's taken positions to learn under offensive minds in the past

- Development is a question mark but probably a plus. Every school he's been at has seen immediate and significant improvement

- Recruiting is a question mark but probably a plus. Young, player's coach, went through the JUCO and homeless to P5 player to HS coach trajectory

[immamac 42492]

I think they go for an NFL RB coach. They are serious about player development and getting guys to the next level. It would be a good move, but how do you convince one to come down to college. 

[Hornlover 8824]

1 minute ago, immamac said:

I think they go for an NFL RB coach. They are serious about player development and getting guys to the next level. It would be a good move, but how do you convince one to come down to college. 

Bernie Parmalee is probably going to be available.

[RabidM 2664]

 

[Vertigo 20257]

4 minutes ago, immamac said:

I think they go for an NFL RB coach. They are serious about player development and getting guys to the next level. It would be a good move, but how do you convince one to come down to college. 

We paid Drayton more than he would make in the NFL. They came calling every year and he kept turning them down.

[texasstrong12 4668]

Sounds like Marion is in play at Colorado to be the OC I guess? 

[henrygandorf 29174]

4 hours ago, utexas8 said:

Not sure how bag game works but can’t they just get another guy and make him the bagman?

I see a lot of people say X is a bagman but can’t anyone be a bagman if you give them the money?

that’s dr bagman.  i didn’t spend 4 years in bagman school to be called mr. 

[DalTxHornFan 3084]

4 hours ago, immamac said:

I think they go for an NFL RB coach. They are serious about player development and getting guys to the next level. It would be a good move, but how do you convince one to come down to college. 

 

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

Bobby:

 

’m told Gary Patterson and Steve Sarkisian spoke in person yesterday.

The outcome of the discussion?

Unknown.

However, Patterson is not seeking a typical analyst or consulting role. If he were to move from TCU, where they have a statue of him in front of the stadium, it would have to be for a role that has more meat on the bone and he does not want an on-field role at this time.

So what could that role possibly be?

Maybe a GM for football. But a GM title seems to have a negative connotation to other coaches and is a bit of an overreach in the college sports model because, in college, the GM would undoubtedly report to the head coach, not the athletic director.

Perhaps there’s a role that combines director of opponent scouting, self-scouting and personnel evaluation (team, recruiting and portal). Self-scouting is an area where I think many college programs have inherent weaknesses.

How will Arkansas attack our defensive front? How will Oklahoma defend the outside zone? Those are questions Texas had some answers for last year, but didn’t necessarily always have the counter punch ready after an initial fix from the other coaching box.

We are unsure at this time the results of the meeting between the two. We’ll let you know more as we get more information.

[Codaxx 5588]

14 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Colbert is meh. Not as good of a recruiter as he is made out to be. USC had to hit the portal hard for WR his last few years (a few of which came from Texas).

Napier will have a good staff though. He's coached under Saban and knows the recruiting game he is going to have to play.

That might be true, but he really had a shit product to sell at USC. 

[Codaxx 5588]

12 hours ago, burdine said:

We need someone who can be a volume recruiter not just for RBs. 

Ideally, this position is one of the best recruiters on offense.

DId Kelly retain Frank Wilson? 

[Codaxx 5588]

9 hours ago, immamac said:

I think they go for an NFL RB coach. They are serious about player development and getting guys to the next level. It would be a good move, but how do you convince one to come down to college. 

I am just not big on this idea. RB is one of the easiest positions to coach. Lot of the coaching comes down to blitz pick ups and blocking. Not a lot of coaching when it comes to when the player has the ball in his hands. Texas had the "best" Rb coach and really struggled in this area. I would like to see a volume recruiter come in here.

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

I am just not big on this idea. RB is one of the easiest positions to coach. Lot of the coaching comes down to blitz pick ups and blocking. Not a lot of coaching when it comes to when the player has the ball in his hands. Texas had the "best" Rb coach and really struggled in this area. I would like to see a volume recruiter come in here.

Yeah, you don't really need much technique and coaching ability to coach RBs at the college level.

Need a volume recruiter. 

[LTtxfan 48928]

15 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

DId Kelly retain Frank Wilson? 

Retain ??

Coaching career (HC unless noted)
1996	Nicholls State (SA)
1997–1999	Edna Karr HS (LA) (assistant)
2000–2003	O. P. Walker HS (LA)
2005–2007	Ole Miss (RB/ST)
2008	Southern Miss (RB/RC)
2009	Tennessee (WR)
2010–2015	LSU (AHC/RB/RC)
2016–2019	UTSA
2020–2021	McNeese State
2022–present	LSU (AHC)

[Codaxx 5588]

1 minute ago, LTtxfan said:

Retain ??

Coaching career (HC unless noted)
1996	Nicholls State (SA)
1997–1999	Edna Karr HS (LA) (assistant)
2000–2003	O. P. Walker HS (LA)
2005–2007	Ole Miss (RB/ST)
2008	Southern Miss (RB/RC)
2009	Tennessee (WR)
2010–2015	LSU (AHC/RB/RC)
2016–2019	UTSA
2020–2021	McNeese State
2022–present	LSU (AHC)

I thought he went back last year, my bad

[Chuckie Finster 22583]

Bobby:
 
’m told Gary Patterson and Steve Sarkisian spoke in person yesterday.

The outcome of the discussion?

Unknown.

However, Patterson is not seeking a typical analyst or consulting role. If he were to move from TCU, where they have a statue of him in front of the stadium, it would have to be for a role that has more meat on the bone and he does not want an on-field role at this time.

So what could that role possibly be?

Maybe a GM for football. But a GM title seems to have a negative connotation to other coaches and is a bit of an overreach in the college sports model because, in college, the GM would undoubtedly report to the head coach, not the athletic director.

Perhaps there’s a role that combines director of opponent scouting, self-scouting and personnel evaluation (team, recruiting and portal). Self-scouting is an area where I think many college programs have inherent weaknesses.

How will Arkansas attack our defensive front? How will Oklahoma defend the outside zone? Those are questions Texas had some answers for last year, but didn’t necessarily always have the counter punch ready after an initial fix from the other coaching box.

We are unsure at this time the results of the meeting between the two. We’ll let you know more as we get more information.

Color me naive, but I don’t think there’s any way this progresses to an in-person meeting without most of the details already known.

[LTtxfan 48928]

Still wonder if Coleman moves to an off-field role, freeing up WR Coach spot. Then between the new coaches (RB & WR) Sark better add a quality recruiter.  

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

Coleman has literally contributed nothing to this recruiting class.

[LTtxfan 48928]

20 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Still wonder if Coleman moves to an off-field role, freeing up WR Coach spot. Then between the new coaches (RB & WR) Sark better add a quality recruiter.  

Gerry said in IT recap video, Sark probably considers what areas of weakness his staff has when he adds another "volume/elite recruiter" coach.

Gerry:  Does Sark think he needs more help in Louisiana, DFW, Houston, or Southeast areas -- where does he see weaknesses in the current staff.

Bobby Burton believes Sark should focus on "elite recruiter" as opposed to region of strength...

 

Edited December 17, 2021 by LTtxfan

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

11 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Gerry said in IT recap video, Sark probably considers what areas of weakness his staff has when he adds another "volume/elite recruiter" coach.

Gerry:  Does Sark think he needs more help in Louisiana, DFW, Houston, or Southeast areas -- where does he see weaknesses in the current staff.

Bobby Burton believes Sark should focus on "elite recruiter" as opposed to region of strength...

 

I think maybe tie into both elite recruiter/area. 

I feel like we need a similar guy to Gilbert from the Houston area....maybe as an off field guy.


For the RB coach get an elite recruiter volume recruiter, for WR....get a guy who can recruit that position well.

[Post Oak 20182]

Hire an elite recruiter and hire someone to over see the southeast.  Hire someone who has more of a feel for Houston.

Hell I'd hire someone who knew AZ, Utah and Colorado too.

Edited December 17, 2021 by Post Oak

[RaysBoomBoomRoom 5742]

No Bo Davis in this video 

 

[texifornia 56434]

8 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Hire an elite recruiter and hire someone to over see the southeast.  Hire someone who has more of a feel for Houston.

Hell I'd hire someone who knew AZ, Utah and Colorado too.

I would also like a pony and $500k in cash.

...wait am I just Evan Stewart?