California Getting a Jump on Black Friday Shopping

[Rimbo 25752]

16 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

L.A. is a big town.  It's got super-cool shit, and just plain old shit.

Yes yes, any time you have a town that big you're going to have a bit of everything. I mean I'm sure there are Dallas Cowboys fans who aren't total cocksuckers, too. One of them might even have a YouTube channel.

But I'm not so naive to think that a few nice Chinese restaurants is going to make the whole of LA anything... other than being this hopeless fucking hole we call LA. The ONLY way to fix it is to flush it all away. Any fucking time...

Edited June 28, 2023 by Rimbo

[StassneyHorn 6534]

Oh shut the fuck up

[Gil Bang 25865]

Rimbo needs to walk through the Bradbury Building, eat at Grand Central Market, and take a ride on the Angel's Flight. 

L.A. has super cool shit.

[Smax 3799]

2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I feel like when you throw a tri tip on the grill and invite the neighborhood, everyone is throwing their keys in a bowl on the way in…and that’s cool. 

 

 

I didn't recognize you last weekend?

Edited June 28, 2023 by Smax

[gmr548 16463]

He's in Montgomery County where there are no gays and girls don't climb trees. Also, don't ask him about the third episode of the "Last of Us" lest he gets the willies.

Beat me to it, but he’s said he lives in the land of no-gay people, Montgomery Co. He downloaded Grindr and proved it.

Montgomery County is indistinguishable from College Station beyond the pine trees. I’m not aware of this Grindr story but it’s screaming classic closeted Republican.

[AnotherUTFan 9659]

As a native San Diegan turned San Francisco transplant, I've never gotten LA. I just thought traffic and sprawl. Over the last couple years my daughter plus a few close friends have moved down there, so I've been spending a little more time there. Now I get it. LA is cool as fuck. There's a lot to love about that town.

[Gil Bang 25865]

15 minutes ago, AnotherUTFan said:

As a native San Diegan turned San Francisco transplant, I've never gotten LA. I just thought traffic and sprawl. Over the last couple years my daughter plus a few close friends have moved down there, so I've been spending a little more time there. Now I get it. LA is cool as fuck. There's a lot to love about that town.

Fuck yeah there is.  I've never lived there, but I did a ton of deals up there.  Laurel Canyon, Griffith Park, The Getty, Sunset Boulevard,  Musso and Frank, Nate N' Al.  Philippe French Dips. King Taco.   

It's awesome when it's awesome.  

It sucks that P-38 is dead though. 

I'm seeing Isbell at the Greek next month.  How awesome is The Greek? 

 

And not "technically" L.A., but the Rose Bowl is the greatest sports venue on planet earth.

[Biff Tannen 45477]

5 hours ago, YGIFS said:

^

It's a sarcastic, but salient point on Montgomery County (as an example).    For the few years I was not very tolerant...not homophobic or anti-gay...more like "pipe down, keep to yourselves"...I just didn't think about it much.  I didn't really become an advocate until friends and family came out to me, and I saw the family values crusades against these people (and lived in NoCal and Austin). 

But looking back now, the real icing on the cake was, "I can't just say 'whatever', I gotta at least listen, if not help, if not broadly advocate" was when I started hearing fellow Texans that I knew saying shit like, "Ain't no gays where I'm from or I'd know about it."  And I used to think, "Well no shit, look at you.........what gay person in a million years would ever tell you they were gay?  You think you're the first to know, last to blow?  You might know where the black and brown families live, but there's a reason you don't know where the gays live in your community.  They don't want you to know.  You're surrounded by meth heads, wife beaters, and child molesters...and suddenly you're Hercule Poirot? 

You don't wave your hand at the monster to notice you.  California and Texas have the exact same percentage of LGBTQ+ by population/per capita.  In terms of the whole of the state (you can't just isolate San Francisco versus Vidor).  Nature has always and forever created about the same percentage (maybe not post-o[p trans because of lack of scientific advancements for millennia) but LGBTQ+ across all epochs and meridians.  People just lived in the shadows, that's all.  What we see today is the exact same demography.................only difference now is access to quality real estate.  Here's my card.

Read this in Roy Kent’s voice. It’s amazing.  

[F250 28659]

5 hours ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Negged for bullshit. Usually when I say negged, it's a joke, but I can't let this one slide...

Fuck off honkey. I know my people's culture when I see it. Just stick to posting about family ethnic nights at Torchys or Chuys.

There is a Mexican community in the Akron-Canton area of Ohio. We are everywhere and we bring our food with us.

 

[Hefeweizen 5307]

It’s wild how invested some dumbasses are in dunking on Cali.  I’ve only been here full time a year but I’m never leaving, and I spent my entire adult life before that in Texas.  The scenery, the weather, the food is so good it’s hard to believe.  Yes it’s fucking expensive as hell, especially the closer you get to spots that are like paradise on earth, but what do you expect?  
 

I love bbq and miss that, I miss my swimming pool and the feel of Texas heat (very occasionally), but I don’t miss the anger in people that I was noticing more and more, and definitely don’t miss my allergies or the traffic in Austin.  
 

I’m sorry for the folks that don’t get it.  Truly.

[mdmost 42775]

Yeah, I never understood the bug that Texans have up their asses about California. I go every few years and love it there. If there was some reason to move there like work or family, I would have no reservations doing it. Sure, it's expensive but what place isn't unless it's some far flung out in the middle of nowhere destination? Cost of living in Texas has gone up tremendously.  It's like divorce. It costs a lot in CA because it's worth it. I'd love to go outside and not immediately melt. My brother and I do baseball trips every few years. We're going to San Francisco to see the Giants and A's this August and I can't wait to escape this heat dome. 

Edited June 28, 2023 by mdmost

[Js1 85056]

5 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Yeah, I never understood the bug that Texans have up their asses about California. 

It's the same BS they have about Europe being a socialist hellhole.  Most of these people saying that either don't have a passport or the furthest they've been from the U.S. is whatever ports in the Caribbean where Carnival stops.  Maybe they've been to an all-inclusive somewhere in Mexico.  

[4th&Five 41457]

My wife is from SD so I’ve spent probably 300 nights there over the last 25 years. If we could afford the same lifestyle there as we do in Austin we’d be gone tomorrow. 

[Underdog 28437]

Have only made about a half dozen or so trips out to Cali and have enjoyed it immensely, SD is just beautiful as was SF and LA is LA.  I’d have no problem setting up on a parking lot next to a beach in a trailer home. 

[YGIFS 19449]

I like how "I received more votes than any sitting U.S. President in history, so I must have won!" doesn't necessarily translate to "California actually had more votes for Trump than any U.S. State!"  I mean, don't both those insist that he won the 2020 election.  What are the rest of y'all so afraid of?  There's plenty of batshit lunacy out there.  It's not like when you show up, you have to eat vegan and suck a dick. 

It's a beautiful state geographically and naturally.  Like any big state, it's got assholes and cool folks.  Wonderful weather, beautiful women, and great food.  I personally love the outdoors component-the ocean, mountains, parks, wildlife, vineyards, and fishing.  The big cities, I could take or leave. 

But it's not some liberal hell-hole.  Plenty of the Bay Area, Interior, Inland Empire, Bakersfield to Fresno to Stockton, huge chunk of San Diego, Orange County........there are no shortage of hard-right pockets of California.  It's almost as if America's largest state is representative of the whole nation.  It has blue statewide leadership in the same way Texas has all red statewide leadership.  It's rigged and hanging on by a thread.  

You have been misled by FoxNews, the upcoming battles are not red state versus blue state.  For the umpteenth time---the battle is instead urban/college suburban versus rural/non-college suburban.  California and Texas are the absolute perfect examples of that.  Watch and see.  

[Biff Tannen 45477]

1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

For the umpteenth time---the battle is instead urban/college suburban versus rural/non-college suburban.

I would argue this is mostly because of Fox News.  The rurals are scared shitless of an imaginary boogey man they've been conditioned to fear over the past 40 years.

[Incredulity 11532]

42 minutes ago, Underdog said:

I’d have no problem setting up on a parking lot next to a beach in a trailer home. 

[Gil Bang 25865]

1 hour ago, Underdog said:

Have only made about a half dozen or so trips out to Cali and have enjoyed it immensely, SD is just beautiful as was SF and LA is LA.  I’d have no problem setting up on a parking lot next to a beach in a trailer home. 

 

[Smax 3799]

3 hours ago, Hefeweizen said:

It’s wild how invested some dumbasses are in dunking on Cali.  I’ve only been here full time a year but I’m never leaving, and I spent my entire adult life before that in Texas.  The scenery, the weather, the food is so good it’s hard to believe.  Yes it’s fucking expensive as hell, especially the closer you get to spots that are like paradise on earth, but what do you expect?  
 

I love bbq and miss that, I miss my swimming pool and the feel of Texas heat (very occasionally), but I don’t miss the anger in people that I was noticing more and more, and definitely don’t miss my allergies or the traffic in Austin.  
 

I’m sorry for the folks that don’t get it.  Truly.

 

California is not a complete wasteland for BBQ, I know of a handful of places that would probably make the Texas top 50 or at least come close

[Ten Bears 2478]

He's in Montgomery County where there are no gays and girls don't climb trees and is definitely not east Texas.

 

Anything east of I35 is east Texas to us west Texans. 

[Gil Bang 25865]

48 minutes ago, Smax said:

 

California is not a complete wasteland for BBQ, I know of a handful of places that would probably make the Texas top 50 or at least come close

Heritage for sure.

[Js1 85056]

9 minutes ago, Ten Bears said:

He's in Montgomery County where there are no gays

That’s going to be shocking news to the dudes I hooked up with in high school and on breaks home from college who lived or were from The Woodlands, Magnolia, Conroe and Montgomery 

[safe sex 11659]

37 minutes ago, Js1 said:

That’s going to be shocking news to the dudes I hooked up with in high school and on breaks home from college who lived or were from The Woodlands, Magnolia, Conroe and Montgomery 

I wonder how many were able to break free and how many are married with kids and miserable

[Hefeweizen 5307]

1 hour ago, Smax said:

 

California is not a complete wasteland for BBQ, I know of a handful of places that would probably make the Texas top 50 or at least come close

You can’t tease like that and no names?  Crossroads in Carmel is the only one nearby that’s decent and it’s not as good as Rudy’s.

 

46 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Heritage for sure.

Donde esta?

[We’reTexas 1467]

11 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

You can’t tease like that and no names?  Crossroads in Carmel is the only one nearby that’s decent and it’s not as good as Rudy’s.

 

Donde esta?

Horn BBQ in Oakland used to be great, has run into troubles recently tho. 

[aggie08 21379]

56 minutes ago, Js1 said:

That’s going to be shocking news to the dudes I hooked up with in high school and on breaks home from college who lived or were from The Woodlands, Magnolia, Conroe and Montgomery 

Actual gay or Republican gay?

[Willfully Horn 7913]

On 6/26/2023 at 4:42 PM, Incredulity said:

No, no,no in this instance the thieves are using the blowtorch.  I know it’s hard for you to recognize theft as a social ill.

Theft absolutely is a social ill. Agreed. And I share your discontent that shoplifting apparently isn’t being prosecuted by a number of localities. I do insist that shoplifting be seen in context, which includes the far greater (in terms of monetary value) ill of wage theft, which isn’t being prosecuted by any locality.

Edited June 28, 2023 by Willfully Horn
Spellfuct

[Longhorn_Fan68 33825]

4 hours ago, Js1 said:

It's the same BS they have about Europe being a socialist hellhole.  Most of these people saying that either don't have a passport or the furthest they've been from the U.S. is whatever ports in the Caribbean where Carnival stops.  Maybe they've been to an all-inclusive somewhere in Mexico.  

exactly this. it's people who have never been anywhere but a small radius from where they were born. they have literally not experienced other cultures when they are the visitor/minority. they only seek out and go to places that are similar to what they know. it's pathetic.

Edited June 28, 2023 by Longhorn_Fan68

[YGIFS 19449]

36 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Actual gay or Republican gay?

Santos gay-ish

[elfenix 34168]

He's in Montgomery County where there are no gays and girls don't climb trees and is definitely not east Texas.
 
Anything east of I35 is east Texas to us west Texans. 

That gay campground is in Grimes county! Checkmate!

[Foosters 17691]

1 hour ago, Hefeweizen said:

You can’t tease like that and no names?  Crossroads in Carmel is the only one nearby that’s decent and it’s not as good as Rudy’s.

 

Donde esta?

https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/california/us-los-angeles/restaurant/moo-s-craft-barbecue

[Smax 3799]

25 minutes ago, We’reTexas said:

Horn BBQ in Oakland used to be great, has run into troubles recently tho. 

 

That's a little disappointing to hear, usually stop by when we go down for Astros/As games so its been about a year but the 4 or 5 times I've eaten there its been great.

Kinsmoke which is in my hood is outstanding too, great bourbon selection though they started to increase the prices. Used to be able to $40 WLW pours and $10 old rip van winkle old fashions.

I go up to Reading area a few times a year to fly fish and in downtown, Odell craft BBQ is great

As Gil mentioned Heritage 

heard good things about Moos in La but I have not tried it

One thing to note about BBQ in California and Ill stretch to most foods, they season less here then we do in Texas and the smoke is a little toned down compared to what I am used to. But these places will cure the craving if you don't want to do it yourself or fly back to Texas

 

[Gil Bang 25865]

1 hour ago, Hefeweizen said:

You can’t tease like that and no names?  Crossroads in Carmel is the only one nearby that’s decent and it’s not as good as Rudy’s.

 

Donde esta?

https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/california/san-juan-capistrano/restaurant/heritage-barbecue

 

[SydneyCarton 47809]

1 hour ago, safe sex said:

I wonder how many were able to break free and how many are married with kids and miserable

Why don't you just ask Poe directly about his situation?

[Rimbo 25752]

18 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

Rimbo needs to walk through the Bradbury Building, eat at Grand Central Market, and take a ride on the Angel's Flight. 

L.A. has super cool shit.

Been there, done that. The Getty, the Disney concert hall, Rose Bowl, that car museum, observatory... many many things.

Yes. They are cool. But there's a reason I live down here, two hours South of it, rather than there. Because MOST of LA sucks balls, and a handful of neat things don't make up for that.

I mean you can find cool things about Amarillo, too. (Palo Duro, Carrington Center, Cadillac Ranch....) Doesn't make the town any less of a shithole.

[Gil Bang 25865]

1 minute ago, Rimbo said:

Been there, done that. The Getty, the Disney concert hall, Rose Bowl, that car museum, observatory... many many things.

Yes. They are cool. But there's a reason I live down here, two hours South of it, rather than there. Because MOST of LA sucks balls, and a handful of neat things don't make up for that.

I mean you can find cool things about Amarillo, too. (Palo Duro, Carrington Center, Cadillac Ranch....) Doesn't make the town any less of a shithole.

I live in San Diego County for a reason, but L.A. is really cool to visit. 

[SydneyCarton 47809]

I would kill every single one of you motherfuckers here, some of you twice, to live in La Jolla. Maybe when I retire. 

[mdmost 42775]

If I had a choice, San Clemente would be my first option. Right off the 5, not too far from San Diego for flights out when Orange County wouldn't work. I like San Diego when we spent 4 days there last summer. Granted we were in La Jolla. If it were LA, I would opt for Pasadena/Altadena. I don't know if I could do San Francisco. I love visiting, just not sure on logistics of living there. I would probably need to live north of the Bay. Our Uber driver was really pushing us to move to Orange when we were talking about the logistics of moving to LA, like he did from New York. Yeah, I need to be closer to the coast if I'm moving there.

[Gil Bang 25865]

2 hours ago, mdmost said:

If I had a choice, San Clemente would be my first option. Right off the 5, not too far from San Diego for flights out when Orange County wouldn't work. I like San Diego when we spent 4 days there last summer. Granted we were in La Jolla. If it were LA, I would opt for Pasadena/Altadena. I don't know if I could do San Francisco. I love visiting, just not sure on logistics of living there. I would probably need to live north of the Bay. Our Uber driver was really pushing us to move to Orange when we were talking about the logistics of moving to LA, like he did from New York. Yeah, I need to be closer to the coast if I'm moving there.

Dana Point is my sweet spot, and I intend to get back there someday.  Same general area as SC, but easier to get around.   SC is a clusterfuck in the summertime.

 

Edited to note that I'm a bit older.  For those in their 20's and 30's, the cool factor of SC would outweigh the PITA factor of congestion.  DP has a slightly slower pace.  I previously lived in Capo Beach, and it was terrific. 

Edited June 29, 2023 by Gil Bang

[Doc Sam Beckett 5781]

I know Gil is going to disagree, but San Diego is fucking overrated. The cost compared to what it offers is ridiculous. San Diego wants to be a world class city, but all it offers is weather. If the old lady's family wasn't entrenched, I'd be up the coast yesterday. The old man lives in a sweet spot in Vista, but any available plot of land is being built up with townhouses. It's starting to diminish the charm of his country/city life 

[We’reTexas 1467]

It’s the Dallas of California. 

[Doc Sam Beckett 5781]

4 minutes ago, We’reTexas said:

It’s the Dallas of California. 

[Biff Tannen 45477]

20 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Dana Point is my sweet spot, and I intend to get back there someday.  Same general area as SC, but easier to get around.   SC is a clusterfuck in the summertime.

 

Edited to note that I'm a bit older.  For those in their 20's and 30's, the cool factor of SC would outweigh the PITA factor of congestion.  DP has a slightly slower pace.  I previously lived in Capo Beach, and it was terrific. 

Yep, we may have a chance to move out to DP/Rancho/San Clemente in the next couple of years.  Definitely keeping that option open.

[tchookem 3900]

Man, if shoplifting drives people this crazy imagine how angry they'd get over white-collar crime. That's where the real money is... taxpayer money even.

[Gil Bang 25865]

25 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

I know Gil is going to disagree, but San Diego is fucking overrated. The cost compared to what it offers is ridiculous. San Diego wants to be a world class city, but all it offers is weather. If the old lady's family wasn't entrenched, I'd be up the coast yesterday. The old man lives in a sweet spot in Vista, but any available plot of land is being built up with townhouses. It's starting to diminish the charm of his country/city life 

North County Coastal is way better than Metro San Diego.

Vista has it's charm, but also has some drawbacks. 

[Gil Bang 25865]

and the tri-tip at Seaside Market is the greatest thing ever.

[HonkeyVape 107]

2 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

and the tri-tip at Seaside Market is the greatest thing ever.

I once stayed in Point Loma for a week and ate here every day: https://www.yelp.com/biz/its-a-taco-shop-san-diego

[HonkeyVape 107]

2 hours ago, We’reTexas said:

It’s the Dallas of California. 

 

2 hours ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

I know Gil is going to disagree, but San Diego is fucking overrated. The cost compared to what it offers is ridiculous. San Diego wants to be a world class city, but all it offers is weather. If the old lady's family wasn't entrenched, I'd be up the coast yesterday. The old man lives in a sweet spot in Vista, but any available plot of land is being built up with townhouses. It's starting to diminish the charm of his country/city life 

Career-wise, it's hard to live in SD if you are serious about your career and are not in a) Life Sciences b) Military/Federal work and/or work at Qualcomm? I don't know I just get the sense that there isn't a critical mass of much else and from some of the consultants I've worked with in the Big 4 and Tier-2 firms that during COVID-19 moved from major markets (NY & Boston) to SD, their career path / personal brand / visibility has suffered. 

So in that way it's the Dallas of California if you remember the book Liar's Poker and how being put on the team in Dallas was such a demotion like being sent to Career Siberia.

[gmr548 16463]

Counterpoint: Once you’re at a point where you can afford San Diego, who cares about your consulting career? Coast and enjoy.

[YChang 3430]

If I could afford it… it would be Santa Barbara. Number 2 and this would probably shock most of y’all but I absolutely loved living in the Rockridge neighborhood in Oakland where it borders Berkeley.