FIFA 18

[Capn81 372]

this game is so fucking rigged.

I agree that there is an element where the game feels dirty. I wish I could figure out a set of sliders that would offset, but I can never find a happy medium.

[Capn81 372]

I've never played FIFA but have heard good things.  Is it something I can play not really understanding soccer strategy or would that be a disaster?

I knew nothing about soccer when I first played FIFA. I think that it is pretty intuitive, and you will be able to work yourself through the difficulty levels as you learn. Just my 2 cents.

The lower levels allow you to mash the speed burst to get around the CPU. As you advance up, you have to start to pull back on the sprint button and look for lanes to pass. It all comes together IMO.

[Eastwood 4394]

FIFA is pretty much 100% responsible for my understanding of soccer. Positions, formations, strategy, etc. Picked up a copy after the 2010 World Cup and haven't looked back.

[Goo Punch 4275]

FIFA is pretty much 100% responsible for my understanding of soccer. Positions, formations, strategy, etc. Picked up a copy after the 2010 World Cup and haven't looked back.

 

FIFA World Cup 2010 was a really fun game with a n amazing soundtrack. this year's soundtrack is pretty damn good as well.

 

now back to the bitching: i'm currently playing as Arsenal against Lincoln City FC (The Imps), and their defense is so unrelentingly swarming it's laughable. i will get the ball and their forwards will charge at me 1 v 1, and i have three options-

 

1)pass the ball before he gets near me

2)move out if the way to avoid him- this requires me to command my player to

move well before the imposing forward gets near me, which means that he's still close enough to mark me/get hip-to-hip with me in 0.5 seconds

3)try and move out if the way of the imposing forward at the last second, which doesn't work- i'm already sucked into the magnetic field of the i

losing defender and he has taken the ball.

 

some random fucking forward for Lincoln City is just running around like an insane person, personally locking down the arsenal attack with his aggression and straightforwardness. completely ridiculous.

 

i don't condone violence, but i'm pretty sure i could water board whoever made this game and sleep like a baby the same night.

[Goo Punch 4275]

i can't get over mad this made me. nothing should be able to make me this mad, but when a video game decrees that every single road cup game will be "made fair" by fucking me over in 100 different ways i can't help it. i can't even control the fucking ball against lincoln god damn city. every fucking time i get the ball im swarmed by one guy who makes my life hell. every time i press the fucking pass button my only available teammate needlessly meanders off and away from the incoming pass. every throw in is a fucking herculean feat. ever fucking corner is kicked right out to that one soefific cpu player who wins the ball 100% of the time and is off to the races. i can't even maintain possession for three fucking passes in a row because EA says that road cup games are hard. fuck this stupid shit.

[Goo Punch 4275]

i was so fuming hapless through about 35 minutes that i started the match over, which i try never to do, and which makes me rage more than nearly anything, but i didn't really have a choice if i wanted to finish the match without having a stroke. i also just realized i'm playing at home, which makes all of this even more stupid. here's what the most aggressive defense possible on fifa looks like;

 

 

[Eastwood 4394]

I haven't played since 13. Are there no sliders on operation sports or anything like that? Saved my experience with NCAA Football 14, for sure.

[Goo Punch 4275]

i hope this kid become a star for his name alone-

[hayden_horn 11362]

I also love how in the league run in or cup quarters through finals, your opponents become stifling defenders in every passing lane, while you or your guys can't take the ball off anyone's foot and even if close to a passing lane nobody stops out. 

I don't mind losing, I want to lose some games. I don't want to feel cheated when doing so.

And I get what the game is doing I think. It wants me to learn all the fancy passes, tricky dribbling moves, etc, but I'm a father and husband. I can play maybe two matches per night. Semi pro is too easy but pro is stupid hard. Which is fine! Make it hard but make it equitable. My defenders should be doing equal to what theirs are doing. Difficulty should be a bit more complex than nerfing and hulking skills. 

[hayden_horn 11362]

i also think that he game has a momentum factor built in. if my opponent, superior or inferior, scores an early goal, then shit gets impossible. i think that's kind of a fun idea, honestly, as momentum is a real thing. 

but late season games against shitty teams should look like early season games against shitty teams. i don't mind losing to better teams. that's going to happen more often than ont, and it is what makes building a better team fun. but i feel like there are false equivalencies built in at times. i was playing a rather poor leicester squad in the second to last game of the season, with the championship in the balance. spurs would simply not lose, which is another thing that happens in this game during the run in - the game identifies a team to compete with you for first, and makes them a cut above in every match including against equal competition. whatever. i get it. but leicester RMs were keeping pace with mine and shoving me off the ball with regularity. when i play a ball through, probably 8-10 yards ahead, on a break, somehow their super-middies would catch up and make my life miserable. i still won, but even my wife was again asking why i play this game if it is so unfair and she barely pays attention over the top of whatever book she's reading. 

i must be doing something wrong, i reckon, that it makes it that difficult. i even do very regular training exercises with my team to make them individually better. doesn't seem to matter in certain matches. i don't want a 38-0 PL season. i just want to feel like the pitch isn't tilted in one direction without reason.

[Goo Punch 4275]

1 hour ago, hayden_horn said:

My defenders should be doing equal to what theirs are doing. 

Bingo. I'm only controlling one player, the other 10 guys on my team should play exactly like the 11 cpu defenders, but they couldn't be more opposite. Cpu defenders are so overpowered and aggressive you can catch a 40-foot lobbed through ball off your chest and some Ipswich Town defender will take it from you before it even touches the ground. Meanwhile my AI teammates just usher the cpu down the field like personal escorts. They run up to/near the ball and then just watch. The cpu can lose control, take a bad touch, make a bad pass, and my defenders won't even react a little bit. 

Edited July 3, 2018 by Goo Punch

[Goo Punch 4275]

My buddy and I had a good time playing this last night. First video is the first leg of the Carabao Cup semifinals. Man U had just scored in the 90th minute to go ahead, and the clip is of the ensuing kickoff. The second clip is the go-ahead goal from the second leg, and it was a thing of beauty. 

 

 

edit: you. can't even score that first goal without a teammate. also, we have the settings all on manual which makes for some sexy passes when you get it right.

Edited July 7, 2018 by Goo Punch

[Deej 76791]

Even though I know my FIFA shittiness will end up pissing me off, I finally downloaded 18, since it was down to 20 bucks. 4k with the Xbox One X is unbelievable. Neighbor came over while I was playing and after a few minutes, says. "Oh, you're playing a game." 

[hayden_horn 11362]

i've come through the other side of the season, and everything is back to normal. it seems that if you are leading the league, the bournemouths of the world will give you trouble while whoever is chasing you for #2 cannot seem to lose. i think i've gotten better, but i think the season run in has some dodgy need to make the race close. i've turned the difficulty up another time, and i'm still not being sufficiently challenged. it's like i'm suddenly playing on easy.

[Goo Punch 4275]

i really like this soundtrack. best since 13 or 14.

[Goo Punch 4275]

alright, shit like this is so unbelievably aggravating.

 

you are behind me; you are out of the play unless you want to form tackle me in the penalty area. it's over. and the idea that the time it takes to swing one's leg for a shot is enough to *overtake him from behind* and cleanly tackle him/box him out (never mind that my players do nothing to protect the ball when they have it) is asinine. my player basically has to come to a screeching halt just to shoot. the people who make this game cannot possibly also play it.

 

 

Edited July 18, 2018 by Goo Punch

[Goo Punch 4275]

i really hate how much fifa is in my head, but i have to admit that the very first thing i thought when i saw this:

...was, "you could never score that goal on fifa". Cuadrado's touches would have slowed him down so drastically that both Polish defenders would have passed him by the time he was getting the shot off. I can't explain why EA refuses to address these issues year after year.

[Goo Punch 4275]

describe the cpu ai defense: hyper-aggressive, swarming, overly physical.

describe the 10 defensive players on the user team being controlled by the ai: apathetic, slow, standoffish

its criminal. if the cpu loses the ball in my defensive third every single player they have swarms my player who is slow and clunky and who requires 4 full seconds and a 12-point turn just to move 180 degrees. conversely, if i have the ball in the attacking third and lose it, *even if it's rolling right at one of my players* my entire team turns 180 degrees and starts sprinting back towards my own goal. they don't react to the ball, they don't pressure the other team, and they don't even mark anyone, they just turn face and start running towards our own goal like it's a 100m race. meanwhile the cpu is calmly moving the ball 70 yards in 3 passes. that they've programmed the game this way is not merely incompetence, it's straight up evil.

[Goo Punch 4275]

this is emile smith-rowe. he's probably going to be a 65 overall on fifa 18. notice how he's  somehow magically able to 1)run 2)keep the ball right on his foot 3)pass people and 4)shoot, all without 4 defenders easily catching him from behind, passing him by, and casually taking the ball off his foot like he wasn't there. pathetic that this game still can't come close to reality in terms of moving with the ball and shooting. 

and yeah, this game is in my head.

[Constant 6732]

Why do you even play? 90% of your posts are you just shitting on it. Play something else or shut the fuck up already. 

[Goo Punch 4275]

15 hours ago, Constant said:

Why do you even play? 90% of your posts are you just shitting on it. Play something else or shut the fuck up already. 

 

considering that 100% of your posts in this thread are just bitching while 0% of your posts are about FIFA, i don't think you have much room to talk. what's dumber- me getting upset at this game and venting about it here, or you coming to this thread over and over just to get upset at me? 

Edited July 28, 2018 by Goo Punch

[Constant 6732]

You getting upset at the game and venting about it here. 

[HaroldBS 1]

FIFA games are on par with Madden with regard to the AI flat out cheating.

[Goo Punch 4275]

when this game isn't blatantly boning you it's pretty fun. i can immerse myself in the career mode for a couple of hours when things feel fair. i probably spend up to 80% of my time scouting, training, making formations, doing transfer deals, etc, and only 20-30% of the time actually playing games. But man what a few easy upgrades to the AI would do...

[Goo Punch 4275]

 

[Speedtrucker 2071]

Luckily I didn’t buy 18 I played it with ea access for a little bit.

Sucks that pro clubs isn’t getting any updates but I’m getting 19 after passing the last year mainly because La Liga is finally getting some real love. I knew 18 put the presentation package from Bein sports but this season 16 stadiums were added to the previous 4 taht were in and the teams got the EPL treatment finally. Really pumped as a Madrid fan because it got extremely old playing league matches at shitty generic stadiums for all but 3 matches.