Brian Kelly to L$U

[Tex Pete 20179]

3 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

Apparently every quasi-blue blood can do the money whip except the blue blood that makes the most money.   It’s infuriating.  

We don't want to make other schools feel like lessers. We also don't want to raise the going rate for everyone else. We just settle for "bargains" that end up costing us millions more over time. We're so kind. 

[ztejas 43265]

31 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

Against 3-8 Navy, 6-6 Virginia, 3-9 GT, and 3-9 Stanford. They played arguably the weakest of the current playoff top 4 and lost already. Their completely new offense didn’t give up 38 to that dumpster fire FSU team. Their best win is Wisconsin, which also got hammered by Michigan. I know there’s no transitive property in football but fuck man, they don’t have a resume that screams playoffs. 

So you're holding a game against them that was 3 months ago because they played a bad FSU team to a close game but not giving them credit for more recent blowouts over bad teams? Help me understand that logic. 

Who should be in over them? 2 loss Oregon that got smacked by Utah? Ohio State that got smacked by that Oregon team? There just aren't a lot of impressive P5 teams this year. Cincy is pretty likely better than anyone Okie Lite, Bama or Georgia has beaten so far. That isn't much of a blemish on ND's resume. 

As of now ND isn't in the playoff but I'm not sure why they wouldn't have a case over a bunch of 2 loss P5 teams that either didn't win or play for their conference title. 

At some point you have to give teams credit for actually winning games. Especially when there are results that you can hold against basically everyone but Georgia.

[dcar00 14035]

10 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

We don't want to make other schools feel like lessers. We also don't want to raise the going rate for everyone else. We just settle for "bargains" that end up costing us millions more over time. We're so kind. 

yeah but remember that one time when we bought the shoebox of baseball cards at the garage sale and a '52 Mantle popped out?

we have our number - been 5Mish for a while.  we see who takes it. Sark was the first one that said yes and Saban seal of approval made him the guy to get the first shot after Urban.   I'm sure we offered Urban more but I'm also sure it wasn't 10M.  We don't roll like that and never will.  kind of like Mack's Limited Offer plan with scholarships.

I'm not complaining about the money we offer.  none of it is mine.  I just think we need to cycle faster to hit the '52 Mantle when it is obvious our shoebox is full of 88-92 Junk Wax Era.

[Domedriver 655]

I hate all thingsND Irish!  BK is a Weyl faced fat fuck who is going to blow up to Mangino standards eating cajin food and French sauce!  3 years he is going to need to use the shower and towels to wipe his ass after taking his morning shit.

I will look forward to playing my Horns against him!🤘. Avoid the showers!

[texasstrong12 4668]

Kelly sucks as a human but he's also a very good coach that's been limited for various reasons at ND. From a recruiting perspective that is. 

I bet Kelly has much more success at ND than Jimbo does at aggy. He's a much better coach and now he will be landing top 5 classes. 

 

[Wally Fairway 5522]

2 hours ago, Snacks said:

Kelly can fucking develop players and coach.  

Mackovic was supposed to be an offensive guru/QB coach... turns out, he was an insurance salesman.

That is an insult to insurance salesmen all around the country

[texasstrong12 4668]

46 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

We don't want to make other schools feel like lessers. We also don't want to raise the going rate for everyone else. We just settle for "bargains" that end up costing us millions more over time. We're so kind. 

I don't buy this for a second. 

Texas money whips other coaches in every other sport. Again, the issue is the wrong people are involved in the hiring process for football. 

[tbone_ 14021]

That is an insult to insurance salesmen all around the country

He recruited a handful of pretty good players for an insurance salesman.

[dcar00 14035]

1 minute ago, texasstrong12 said:

I don't buy this for a second. 

Texas money whips other coaches in every other sport. Again, the issue is the wrong people are involved in the hiring process for football. 

when your goal is directors cups money whipping a softball or track coach is chump change in the big picture.

at least Sark's contract looks correct from an ROI standpoint as it relates to the rest of the market now.

[texasstrong12 4668]

Just now, dcar00 said:

when your goal is directors cups money whipping a softball or track coach is chump change in the big picture.

at least Sark's contract looks correct from an ROI standpoint as it relates to the rest of the market now.

It's chump change but Texas shows the desire to money whip coaches in other sports. 

The idea Texas wouldn't money whip a coach in football is nonsensical to me when they've done it in other sports. Texas isn't cheap. They just have idiots making the football hire. 

[Jkwellborn 6653]

I’d say he’s at least as good and Miles and Orgeron.

To be fair, I’d bet most of the coaches out there are too.

[westexhorn 2006]

interesting shoes, must be comfy as hell

Edited November 30, 2021 by westexhorn

[66BUFF 2554]

16 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

To be fair, I’d bet most of the coaches out there are too.

Karl Dorrell in not in the "most" group.

[Hermanator 6944]

Successful football coaches tend to be control freaks. This may be the worst place for a control freak coach. 

Need to hire the coach then go hands off and let him run his ship and keep out big money assholes as he sees fit. If it doesn't work after 5 years get another one until it does. 

[Tex Pete 20179]

44 minutes ago, texasstrong12 said:

I don't buy this for a second. 

Texas money whips other coaches in every other sport. Again, the issue is the wrong people are involved in the hiring process for football. 

Yet it's the sort of stupid shit we hear when we're supposedly on the cusp of hiring Nick Saban or Urban Meyer and end up with Charlie Strong or Steve Sarkisian. Someone is full of shit.

[G650 14106]

5 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Successful football coaches tend to be control freaks. This may be the worst place for a control freak coach. 

Need to hire the coach then go hands off and let him run his ship and keep out big money assholes as he sees fit. If it doesn't work after 5 years get another one until it does. 

I don't think most people appreciate that Mal Moore got Nick Saban out of Miami  because he gave him an iron clad guarantee of no booster interference.

 

It's also why the "hurr durr Mack spoiled the Saban move guys are so far off base. Texas booster involvement is the reason Saban said no thanks.

[Tex Pete 20179]

13 minutes ago, westexhorn said:

 

interesting shoes, must be comfy as hell

Lifts. Trying to not look like a Leprechaun. Either his mom shops for him and lays out his clothes or he has a stylist.

[Tex Pete 20179]

1 minute ago, G650 said:

I don't think most people appreciate that Mal Moore got Nick Saban out of Miami  because he gave him an iron clad guarantee of no booster interference.

 

It's also why the "hurr durr Mack spoiled the Saban move guys are so far off base. Texas booster involvement is the reason Saban said no thanks.

Bullshit. All this mythical booster involvement, yet the only person who has ever talked about it is MACK BROWN-- you know, the guy who invited the boosters in and then hid behind them when his firing was imminent.

Edited November 30, 2021 by Tex Pete

[texasstrong12 4668]

2 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Yet it's the sort of stupid shit we hear when we're supposedly on the cusp of hiring Nick Saban or Urban Meyer and end up with Charlie Strong or Steve Sarkisian. Someone is full of shit.

Texas didn't miss on either of those coaches because they were unwilling to spend money. They were apparently offering a massive contract for Urban. 

[nnm 36093]

15 minutes ago, westexhorn said:

interesting shoes, must be comfy as hell

Just did Google search, couldn't find anything close to it.  There are plenty with the tan leather/white sole combo, but nothing with the styling on it.  C'mon Surly, surely someone can find those.

[Tex Pete 20179]

1 minute ago, texasstrong12 said:

Texas didn't miss on either of those coaches because they were unwilling to spend money. They were apparently offering a massive contract for Urban. 

Per rumors from $9.95ers. Guys with their ears to the streets.

[G650 14106]

4 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Bullshit. All this mythical booster involvement, yet the only person who has ever talked about it is MACK BROWN-- you know, the guy who invited the boosters in and then hid behind them when his firing was imminent.

Oh Texas, never change...

[Domedriver 655]

18 minutes ago, westexhorn said:

interesting shoes, must be comfy as hell

Future towel wiper.  He is goina has issues!  Shower friendly shoes!

[KYHorn 16863]

2 minutes ago, nnm said:

Just did Google search, couldn't find anything close to it.  There are plenty with the tan leather/white sole combo, but nothing with the styling on it.  C'mon Surly, surely someone can find those.

Custom geriatrics

[closetohumping 17401]

3 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Bullshit. All this mythical booster involvement, yet the only person who has ever talked about it is MACK BROWN-- you know, the guy who invited the boosters in and then hid behind them when his firing was imminent.

Yep the boosters ain’t the issue. Here’s the four missed that we’re whining about:

1. Saban - thanks mack

 2. urban- wanted to coach in nfl. Didn’t want to coach in sec or deal with portal

3. Lincoln- total dirtbag but would never coach here just like Saban wouldn’t leave bama for auburn or harbaugh to tosu

 

4.  Brian kelly- wanted to break the bad win record and probably too big of a jerk for us

 

that doesn’t mean sark is the right guy

[millhouse 2587]

Today I learned Brian Kelly has a left leg shorter than his right.

[C-Man 27052]

10 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Per rumors from $9.95ers. Guys with their ears to the streets.

Perhaps. But there's no way things would've gotten anywhere near as far as they did with Urban if we weren't talking Saban (or higher) money with him.

[Jkwellborn 6653]

Today I learned Brian Kelly has a left leg shorter than his right.

That was my first thought when I saw the shoe too. Went to school with a girl that had a shoe like that.

[Gatorubet 30099]

This year's carousel is almost crazy enough for ms paint.
 

Do or not do. There is no almost crazy enough…

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

I dont understand this view that Brian Kelly is a bad hire. LSU won 2 national championships with a barely literate ogre and a guy whose idea of good offense was running dive tosses 30 times a game despite fielding a WRing core of Odell Beckham, Jarvis Landry, & Reuben Randle.  They literally fall ass backwards into national championships with imbeciles leading the way.  LSU is the only power 5 school in a state with more talent per capita than any state in the union. Kelly not only sends quality Olineman to the league more consistently than any coach in college even though that position group is the most difficult to evaluate, he wins everywhere he's been and has been to 2 playoffs and a national championship without ever having a difference making QB.  I was really hoping LSU would fuck up this hire but they actually hired a high quality head coach.

 

And beyond that, let me let my melanin deficient brothas in on a little secret about how LSU is viewed regionally within the African-American community. It carries a panache similar to how Miami was viewed back in the 80s. It's the only PWI that sort of has an HBCU vibe and atmosphere at their football games which is attractive and familiar to young black men. And dont even get me started with how wide eyed and tongue wagging these young men get when they visit southern Louisiana and come across the sea of creole women they'll suddenly be introduced to south of I-10. There's a reason why LSU can win national titles despite being led by sheer incompetence since Saban left. Brian Kelly showing up there is clearly not a good thing for us.  

[Vertigo 20267]

34 minutes ago, nnm said:

Just did Google search, couldn't find anything close to it.  There are plenty with the tan leather/white sole combo, but nothing with the styling on it.  C'mon Surly, surely someone can find those.

I couldn't find those exact ones, but I think I found the fall collection:

 

[texasstrong12 4668]

34 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Perhaps. But there's no way things would've gotten anywhere near as far as they did with Urban if we weren't talking Saban (or higher) money with him.

Yup 

[CooterBrown 17907]

Just did Google search, couldn't find anything close to it.  There are plenty with the tan leather/white sole combo, but nothing with the styling on it.  C'mon Surly, surely someone can find those.

Those have got to be knockoffs from Wish.com.

[XYZ 2154]

43 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Do or not do. There is no almost crazy enough…

“Do or do not”

[Prepuce of Doom 20985]

1 hour ago, nnm said:

Just did Google search, couldn't find anything close to it.  There are plenty with the tan leather/white sole combo, but nothing with the styling on it.  C'mon Surly, surely someone can find those.

He's rocking the Lowly Worms. 

 

[G650 14106]

Just now, Prepuce of Doom said:

He's rocking the Lowly Worms. 

 

Richard Scarry was the man

[GTX Horn 1707]

Brian Kelly Shoe Talk not going away

[orangebird 1079]

5 hours ago, Crockett said:

You ever been to Hillsburrito, I mean Hillsboro?

Used to live there, actually.  Though TBH, I think there are a greater concentration of Latinos out in Cornelius.

[RollLeft 5040]

1 hour ago, westexhorn said:

interesting shoes, must be comfy as hell

ND is an Adidas school so i'd bet its a custom pair or SAS has a new line.  

[orangebird 1079]

5 hours ago, TXSG8R said:

Outside of his name, what about Cristobal screams Cuban? And what is Oregon’s culture outside of Nike money and a million uniform combinations? I guess I don’t see where there’s any real cultural conflict there.  I agree that winning covers up any problems, but the second he isn’t winning is when that shit gets amplified. 

Oregon is very, very white.  Super white.  It's arguably one of the whitest states in the country, due in no small part to a series of racial exclusion laws that were still technically on the books up until 1926.  There were virtually no minorities of any sort living here before WWII.  Many Oregon towns had a reputation of being sundown towns up until the 1960s or so.  I have actually talked to people who grew up in rural Oregon and had never met a black person until they visited Portland.  When they filed Animal House in Eugene in the 1970s, the black actors reportedly had to be bussed in under armed guard from Portland, as it was not safe for them to stay in Eugene back then.  Eugene has changed quite a bit since then, but a lot of the more outlying parts of Oregon haven't.

That said, I don't think Cristobal's heritage is all that much of an issue here.  But I have heard no shortage of racist comments in general here, once you get out away from the comfy confines of metro Portland and Eugene.  Culture in Oregon outside of Portland and Eugene?  There is none.

[bullet 1596]

2 hours ago, Wally Fairway said:

That is an insult to insurance salesmen all around the country

Mackovic was an offensive guru/QB coach.  He just couldn't recruit and couldn't find somebody to be his D coordinator.

[bullet 1596]

1 hour ago, closetohumping said:

Yep the boosters ain’t the issue. Here’s the four missed that we’re whining about:

1. Saban - thanks mack

 2. urban- wanted to coach in nfl. Didn’t want to coach in sec or deal with portal

3. Lincoln- total dirtbag but would never coach here just like Saban wouldn’t leave bama for auburn or harbaugh to tosu

 

4.  Brian kelly- wanted to break the bad win record and probably too big of a jerk for us

 

that doesn’t mean sark is the right guy

BS.  If Saban didn't come here because of Mack, it was because Mack told him what it was like dealing with boosters here.

I'm guessing Saban was perfectly comfortable using UT to get a raise at Alabama.

[Deej 76566]

2 hours ago, westexhorn said:

interesting shoes, must be comfy as hell

Five foot three. With the shoes, five foot five.

[Napoleon 8604]

11 minutes ago, RollLeft said:

ND is an Adidas school so i'd bet its a custom pair or SAS has a new line.  

I had an uncle who was former Air Force mechanic, high school education, farmer, and sold seed. (Sell seeds to farmers is a steady income, because it doesn’t matter how the crop turns out, you’ve made your money already.)

Anyway, this uncle loved him som SAS shoes. His eyes went wide when he found a SAS outlet somewhere between his Missouri farm and our Dallas home. 

SAS shoes ain’t nothing to sneeze at.

[Francisco 2.0 32333]

 

 

[Jkwellborn 6653]

He seems like a bitch.

[ztejas 43265]

13 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

Oh my God my mind is completely blown. I can't believe a coach would do that. 

[G650 14106]

He is

[DFW Horn 6118]

15 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

Looks like he'll fit in with a bunch of drunken coonasses.

[closetohumping 17401]

28 minutes ago, bullet said:

BS.  If Saban didn't come here because of Mack, it was because Mack told him what it was like dealing with boosters here.

I'm guessing Saban was perfectly comfortable using UT to get a raise at Alabama.

Like me, you’re a random anonymous poster on a message board.  Tom hicks was a bmd who is willing to provide details and put his name next to it   Now Tom could be making it up to impress a  random journalist but I have no reason to think he’s lying 

 

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/alabama-football/nick-saban-mack-brown-tom-hicks-texas-regent/amp/