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  On 7/1/2024 at 8:35 PM, Bevo said:

What I was saying is that I understand that we are looking for guys who aren’t in it just for the money. However, the system actually makes recruits become - just in it for the money. If Oregon wants to offer a prospect $1M, he is going to go to Oregon. So say you have a guy who wants to be developed the best and Oregon offers $1M but does a shitty job developing. Guess what - the guy got money whipped. The lack of a system is set up for this. So if Auburn or Oregon or A&M or OU wants to overpay the most scrupulous guy in the world, they are going to get him. This may not be true for everyone right now - take Manning for example - however, as time goes on it will become more of a job and less of a career path.

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I can hear an audible "whoosh" going over your head.  That's not what he's saying.  This is coming from 2 of the fucking guys that helped figure out NIL for all of college football.

To be frank - we worked our balls off to set the baseline for a sustainable NIL organization that would set Texas sports, in its entirety, for long term success.   The shine is going to fade on this "money-whipping" behavior as time goes on because these are real people funding this.  This is a passion project for 99.99% of them.  

Texas is doing this the right way, with the right people involved.  Thinking about 1 or 2 players in any sport, here and there is the definition of myopic. 

EDIT:  To further emphasize the point - throw your nuts or your checkbook on the table like we did.  Otherwise, don't weigh in if you don't want to wrestle.

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  On 7/1/2024 at 10:57 PM, GlenFromTheMailRoom said:

I can hear an audible "whoosh" going over your head.  That's not what he's saying.  This is coming from 2 of the fucking guys that helped figure out NIL for all of college football.

To be frank - we worked our balls off to set the baseline for a sustainable NIL organization that would set Texas sports, in its entirety, for long term success.   The shine is going to fade on this "money-whipping" behavior as time goes on because these are real people funding this.  This is a passion project for 99.99% of them.  

Texas is doing this the right way, with the right people involved.  Thinking about 1 or 2 players in any sport, here and there is the definition of myopic. 

EDIT:  To further emphasize the point - throw your nuts or your checkbook on the table like we did.  Otherwise, don't weigh in if you don't want to wrestle.

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The difference is in the definition of money whipping. Offering more money than anyone else is money whipping whether it is Texas or Oregon or A&M or Auburn or Oklahoma. And by this definition, I don’t see why money whipping will disappear. All most schools need is someone to organize a system that works for individual and corporate donors. We’ve created a system that is sustainable and it was hard to be a pioneer. It will be less difficult to follow working blueprints.

We may be a winner in the system but I don’t see the poors such as Alabama and LSU giving up on fund raising for football. They want to remain relevant just like everyone else. You may not see it, but the money going to football recruits isn’t going to dry up. It is going to continue to grow.

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Gerry saying Brandon Brown will make his final decision on the 4th..

 

if he chooses us, he's doing it on his own.. Family is LSU, says ou also has a shot.  

 

Think he said this was coming from a person close to his recruitment..maybe someone in Browns circle.

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  On 7/2/2024 at 2:59 PM, Thiefery said:

Gerry saying Brandon Brown will make his final decision on the 4th..

 

if he chooses us, he's doing it on his own.. Family is LSU, says ou also has a shot.  

 

Think he said this was coming from a person close to his recruitment..maybe someone in Browns circle.

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If we lose him to either of those cocksuckers it won’t be because of funds.  Both are broke as shit.

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Timelines and intel from IT

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  On 7/2/2024 at 2:59 PM, Thiefery said:

Gerry saying Brandon Brown will make his final decision on the 4th..

 

if he chooses us, he's doing it on his own.. Family is LSU, says ou also has a shot.  

 

Think he said this was coming from a person close to his recruitment..maybe someone in Browns circle.

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On this same thread on OTF started by Gerry, Bobby Burton chimed in that he doesn't expect UT to be the pick

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Yall remember when we was saying we wanted a new D-Line coach, cause Bo didnt know how to recruit??!? 

 

Guess he's showing us now huh lol

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But honestly, if we have the type of season we think we can and everyone is predicting

I'm willing to bet we get some flips on that D-Line interior and even DB!! 

 

Is nerve racking right now but I just can't see TEXAS not getting any top D-Line...

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  On 7/2/2024 at 7:43 PM, D3zii said:

Yall remember when we was saying we wanted a new D-Line coach, cause Bo didnt know how to recruit??!? 

 

Guess he's showing us now huh lol

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Well, LSU still doesn't have an inside DL committed in their class. So......

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I actually like what I read about Kenny Baker when we hired him. I think he'll do great here and the recruiting will catch up. They'll flip who they need to or make some nice late evals to close this cycle.

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  On 7/2/2024 at 8:03 PM, Bevo14 said:

I actually like what I read about Kenny Baker when we hired him. I think he'll do great here and the recruiting will catch up. They'll flip who they need to or make some nice late evals to close this cycle.

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Hope is not a strategy. I’ll be crossing my fingers too, since that’s all we have at this point. 

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  On 7/2/2024 at 8:13 PM, D3zii said:

I should have said People felt like Bo Davis wasn't pulling his weight recruiting the D-Line. 

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Was he pulling his weight? I can't think of a coach that's brought in less talent to their room since Sark has taken over, especially given his skins on the wall.

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  On 7/2/2024 at 8:51 PM, Hornmatic said:

So….they’re about get two. 

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Again, the people he spent his tenure here recruiting. I'm not saying it's not a miss, but it's also understandable that they're following a coach they were leaning towards committing to at out university.

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Defensive recruiting is not in the same level as offensive recruiting this year.

We need to bring in Faraimo or Pettijohn. They would bring the linebacker class from good to great.

Without Anding our db class will be below average. And Anding is far from a shoe-in. 

Our DT class is bare.

Our Edge class will be great.

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  On 7/2/2024 at 9:42 PM, Bevo said:

Defensive recruiting is not in the same level as offensive recruiting this year.

We need to bring in Faraimo or Pettijohn. They would bring the linebacker class from good to great.

Without Anding our db class will be below average. And Anding is far from a shoe-in. 

Our DT class is bare.

Our Edge class will be great.

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I posted something similar yesterday, positionally on the defense.

Edge is great. LB is good with Barnes and Cunningham, could be bumped up if the right third piece is added. CB is meh with Chester + ?. Safety with Phillips and Tilmon is somewhere between average to good. I really like Phillips.

It's really DT as the primary (only) problem.

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  On 7/2/2024 at 9:59 PM, Hookem2147 said:

I posted something similar yesterday, positionally on the defense.

Edge is great. LB is good with Barnes and Cunningham, could be bumped up if the right third piece is added. CB is meh with Chester + ?. Safety with Phillips and Tilmon is somewhere between average to good. I really like Phillips.

It's really DT as the primary (only) problem.

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DB recruiting was going to be tough this year after last year’s class with multiple 5/high 4 stars.

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  On 7/2/2024 at 10:21 PM, Vertigo said:

DB recruiting was going to be tough this year after last year’s class with multiple 5/high 4 stars.

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Correct, but that doesn't stop Georgia, Ohio State and Bama from loading up yearly at those spots.

I think we will end up fine at DB, but it doesn't have the wow factor of some previous classes. Maybe a little like the 2023 OL class after we hit the grand slam in 2022 on the OL.

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  On 7/2/2024 at 10:24 PM, Hookem2147 said:

Correct, but that doesn't stop Georgia, Ohio State and Bama from loading up yearly at those spots.

I think we will end up fine at DB, but it doesn't have the wow factor of some previous classes. Maybe a little like the 2023 OL class after we hit the grand slam in 2022 on the OL.

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Exactly. 

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  On 7/2/2024 at 8:56 PM, hook me said:

Was he pulling his weight? I can't think of a coach that's brought in less talent to their room since Sark has taken over, especially given his skins on the wall.

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If our current DT strategy is the same strategy we had under Bo, then it likely wasn’t all his fault.

If you aren’t going to commit a bunch of NIL money to DT then you definitely should be recruiting backup plans better. Our strategy at the position makes no sense. One of the backup guys we didn’t really bother to recruit much, Chace Simms, just committed to aggy.

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