Texas Recruiting Notes 2025: Duck Around and Find Out

[cb866 140]

55 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

Given the current NIL landscape, commitments like this don’t make any sense to me at all.

LSU has a hell of a class and all we hear is how they have no money.

Exactly. We're being fed lies about NIL en masse, even about our program, but especially about programs we hate (LSU being one). However, here it's possible his relationship with Corey Raymond did matter since he's a Florida kid and Raymond just spent some time there.

Edited July 18 by cb866

[Gut Wagon 8,028]

26 minutes ago, cb866 said:

Exactly. We're being fed lies about NIL en masse, even about our program, but especially about programs we hate (LSU being one). However, here it's possible his relationship with Corey Raymond did matter since he's a Florida kid and Raymond just spent some time there.

Or maybe it's just that Raymond has long been considered one of the top DB coaches in the country. 

[UTEE97 3,377]

13 minutes ago, Gut Wagon said:

Or maybe it's just that Raymond has long been considered one of the top DB coaches in the country. 

I call bullshit. It's not their position coaches or the NIL that is contributing to their recruiting  success. It's their HC. Coach Kelly is a master closer. Case in point 👇

 

 

Edited July 18 by UTEE97

[Mo Horn 8,696]

Listening to Sark today, talking about how deep the WR room is, makes me wonder if we're losing top recruits because that realize they're probably not gonna see the field for 2 years. They wanna play now, and will on other teams.

[HtownHorn 14,320]

20 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

Listening to Sark today, talking about how deep the WR room is, makes me wonder if we're losing top recruits because that realize they're probably not gonna see the field for 2 years. They wanna play now, and will on other teams.

We lost one recruit that we prioritized. Johnson came in the same weekend as Moore and it wasn't close which prospect got the most attention.

[BurntOrange&White 38,767]

2 hours ago, Ghost of Shag said:

Given the current NIL landscape, commitments like this don’t make any sense to me at all.

LSU has a hell of a class and all we hear is how they have no money.

I’d assume needed cash now vs NIL 

[Handcruser 2,801]

Looks like LSU has put in a call to J.G. Wentworth.

[MuellerHorn 4,048]

19 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

Looks like LSU has put in a call to J.G. Wentworth.

Damn, you beat me to it. 

[Hornius Emeritus 12,332]

3 hours ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

LSU also has a recent past of conference and national championships along with development that produces annual draft classes nearly as good, or better, than our only good draft in a decade.

They fired the coaches responsible for those championships and development. Meanwhile Texas has the guy who gave them a good draft two years ago, after his second season, a great draft last year, after his third, and what is projected to be another great draft, after his fourth, with three projected first round picks.

 

[Sgt Hulk 13,519]

Relax yall. We’re Texas 

Edited July 18 by Sgt Hulk

[Codaxx 5,431]

7 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

They fired the coaches responsible for those championships and development. Meanwhile Texas has the guy who gave them a good draft two years ago, after his second season, a great draft last year, after his third, and what is projected to be another great draft, after his fourth, with three projected first round picks.

 

Kelly has a pretty solid resume. Guys like Frank Wilson, Bo Davis, and Corey Raymond have long histories of good work. The one thing that can be frustrating reading this board is this idea that every single recruitment is about NIL (not that you said that). 

Edited July 18 by Codaxx

[FloridaHorn 4,726]

9 hours ago, Handcruser said:

Looks like LSU has put in a call to J.G. Wentworth.

I think they are financing this class with Affirm.

[FCB 29]

7 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Relax yall. We’re Texas 

Please observe our pets heads

[Josef Pwag 1,656]

11 hours ago, cb866 said:

We're being fed lies about NIL en masse, even about our program

[billfromlaketravis 11,286]

Too good to bury in the 9.95 thread:

 https://www.on3.com/teams/oregon-ducks/news/inside-the-mind-of-jhop-cry-harder/

Highlights: 

- Justin Hopkins has given himself the nickname JHop and refers to himself in the third person.

- Spends a couple paragraphs arguing Oregon is really good at recruiting and it’s not all about NIL. And then chases it with NIL chest pumping. 

- Tells everybody to eat shit and deal with it on Uncle Phil buying players. “It’s his money he can do whatever he wants with it. Other schools should go find their own billionaire.”

- Humblebrags Knight could buy every 5 star player, but he’s a nice guy and won’t do that.

- In conclusion, the entire SEC should come fight JHop. 

This guy is a confirmed psycho. While he was with 247, didn’t he call a recruit Oregon wanted while the player was on a Texas official visit and then later posted a half ass apology for it. 

[LTtxfan 48,713]

19 minutes ago, FCB said:

Please observe our pets heads

[Junior Bonner 6,213]

12 hours ago, cb866 said:

Exactly. We're being fed lies about NIL en masse, even about our program, but especially about programs we hate (LSU being one).

And they’re watching us. In black helicopters…. 

[Dbeasy 14,756]

12 hours ago, cb866 said:

Exactly. We're being fed lies about NIL en masse, even about our program, but especially about programs we hate (LSU being one). However, here it's possible his relationship with Corey Raymond did matter since he's a Florida kid and Raymond just spent some time there.

How much have you contributed to Texas NIL?

[BurntOrange&White 38,767]

[Atticus 3,892]

1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

How much have you contributed to Texas NIL?

[BigHorn'13 3,345]

13 hours ago, cb866 said:

Exactly. We're being fed lies about NIL en masse, even about our program, but especially about programs we hate (LSU being one). However, here it's possible his relationship with Corey Raymond did matter since he's a Florida kid and Raymond just spent some time there.

 

2 hours ago, Josef Pwag said:

Negged. And I encourage everyone that is and has been contributing to start calling these assholes out. If you don't contribute, keep Texas NIL out yo mouf!

1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

How much have you contributed to Texas NIL?

 

20 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Exactly

[Ricky Butler 2,641]

I think history books will look back on this era of college football as one of the greatest grifts of all time. 

[Ghost of Shag 2,549]

1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

How much have you contributed to Texas NIL?

Yeah this is always the condescending response to anyone who questions what had been said here about NIL.

[BurntOrange&White 38,767]

1 minute ago, Ghost of Shag said:

Yeah this is always the condescending response to anyone who questions what had been said here about NIL.

As it should. It’s like complaining about certain things if you didn’t participate in the mechanism to change them. 

[Ghost of Shag 2,549]

6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

As it should. It’s like complaining about certain things if you didn’t participate in the mechanism to change them. 

It’s also multiple logical fallacies in one.

Who said anything about complaining? I just said it was confusing to watch programs like LSU put together the class they have based on the current NIL landscape.

Edited July 18 by Ghost of Shag

[Kyrie Eleison 9,310]

10 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

They fired the coaches responsible for those championships and development. Meanwhile Texas has the guy who gave them a good draft two years ago, after his second season, a great draft last year, after his third, and what is projected to be another great draft, after his fourth, with three projected first round picks.

 

disagree respectfully.  credit goes to the current staff...Kelly/Flynt/et al. for developing the 6 drafted last year.  ain't no way Orgeron/Moffitt/et al develop Jayden Daniels, Malik Nabors and BTJ into 1st round picks.  JD was picked up in the portal from ASU by Kelly and was coached up by Joe Sloan (as i'm sure you're aware, the difference between year 1 and 2 was profound given his Heisman), and Nabors and BTJ rarely saw the field prior to Kelly and Hankton arriving. 

of the remaining 3, Jordan Jefferson and Mekhi Wingo were also portal additions (UF and Mizzou), with Maason Smith being a freshman with little playing time under his belt when Kelly arrived.  Smith and Jefferson were drafted on potential however...neither showed shit on the field (though in fairness our DL coach had a heart attack during fall camp in 2023 and we were without a true DL coach the remainder of the season, the duties parsed between several analysts who did a shit job under Matt House's guidance), and Wingo was a beast his first year at LSU but stagnated due to the aforementioned lack of a dedicated line coach.   But he'll stick on an NFL roster.

we've got a damn fine staff now who are collectively and individually well-above avg recruiters, and our NIL is solid enough to compete with most anyone.  what we do lack in the NIL is more than made up for by said staff and our recent history of development and getting players to the NFL.  Sloan nabbed Underwood by simply pointing to his work with Daniels ("Imagine what we can turn you into in 3 years instead of 1"), Hankton has a looong history of putting guys in the league when he was a Georgia and now with Nabors and BTJ being first rounders; of course you already know about Bo Davis, and Brad Davis is about as good an OL coach and recruiter as there is in the country, and we'll have 4 OL drafted this year (LT being projected as a top 3 pick and RT a projected first rounder, too).  Frank Wilson and Corey Raymond are Louisiana natives and have a long history at LSU that speaks for itself, both being named national recruiter of the year in the past and have put a lot of guys in the league.

this isn't some ratchet ass, patched together staff...we're solid.  and it's showing in recruiting.

[cb866 140]

1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

How much have you contributed to Texas NIL?

About as much as your mom has.

Fuck off with this bullshit.

[BurntOrange&White 38,767]

3 minutes ago, cb866 said:

About as much as your mom has.

Fuck off with this bullshit.

If you’re poor it’s okay, we won’t hold it against you 

[cb866 140]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

If you’re poor it’s okay, we won’t hold it against you 

What if I was? Am I not able to be a valid fan if I'm not making six figs? Awww does the online critique of NIL for a bunch of 18 year olds hurt your feelings? wahhh wahh wahh. The internet is truly the place of total scumbags who only criticize. What a waste of time.

[BigHorn'13 3,345]

1 minute ago, cb866 said:

What if I was? Am I not able to be a valid fan if I'm not making six figs? Awww does the online critique of NIL for a bunch of 18 year olds hurt your feelings? wahhh wahh wahh. The internet is truly the place of total scumbags who only criticize. What a waste of time.

No, bitch. It means don't criticize something you won't participate in. It's not that difficult to understand. 

[cb866 140]

1 minute ago, BigHorn'13 said:

No, bitch. It means don't criticize something you won't participate in. It's not that difficult to understand. 

Unbelievable. I've given more than $100k to this university so fuck off.

[BurntOrange&White 38,767]

4 minutes ago, cb866 said:

What if I was? Am I not able to be a valid fan if I'm not making six figs? Awww does the online critique of NIL for a bunch of 18 year olds hurt your feelings? wahhh wahh wahh. The internet is truly the place of total scumbags who only criticize. What a waste of time.

You’re not built for this shit, son. I grew up in modern warfare lobbies. Take your weak shit to TikTok. 
 

 

 

[Foosters 17,637]

3 minutes ago, cb866 said:

What if I was? Am I not able to be a valid fan if I'm not making six figs? Awww does the online critique of NIL for a bunch of 18 year olds hurt your feelings? wahhh wahh wahh. The internet is truly the place of total scumbags who only criticize. What a waste of time.

You've accused people in the know of "spreading lies" regarding the state of NIL. Got receipts to back that up? Or do you possess an elementary school child's ability to process information and assumed that if we're not hitting on all targets, that the only explanation is that you're being lied to?

[cb866 140]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

You’re not built for this shit, son. I grew up in modern warfare lobbies. Take your weak shit to TikTok. 
 

 

 

Ok, you got me!

[BigHorn'13 3,345]

1 minute ago, cb866 said:

Unbelievable. I've given more than $100k to this university so fuck off.

So post a receipt from TOF and become a Burnt Ends member. Otherwise, STFU.

[MuellerHorn 4,048]

11 minutes ago, cb866 said:

What if I was? Am I not able to be a valid fan if I'm not making six figs? Awww does the online critique of NIL for a bunch of 18 year olds hurt your feelings? wahhh wahh wahh. The internet is truly the place of total scumbags who only criticize. What a waste of time.

Except that's not at all what you're doing. Now, you're conflating disparate concepts into one and creating a straw man to excuse your own naive and misplaced perceptions regarding NIL. If someone doesn't have money to contribute to NIL efforts, that's totally fine. However, bitching and perpetuating false narratives regarding something you (1) clearly don't understand and (2) are not a part of is deceitful and does nothing to help the situation. This is like someone who doesn't vote (no CR) who complains about politicians or the like. Sure, it still affects you, but you're not even trying to remedy the situation. No, y'all just want to complain behind a keyboard when Texas NIL is fucking top-tier and there are multiple posters here who fucking have first-hand information to know so.

4 minutes ago, Foosters said:

You've accused people in the know of "spreading lies" regarding the state of NIL. Got receipts to back that up? Or do you possess an elementary school child's ability to process information and assumed that if we're not hitting on all targets, that the only explanation is that you're being lied to?

This!

Edited July 18 by MuellerHorn

[cb866 140]

1 minute ago, Foosters said:

You've accused people in the know of "spreading lies" regarding the state of NIL. Got receipts to back that up? Or do you possess an elementary school child's ability to process information and assumed that if we're not hitting on all targets, that the only explanation is that you're being lied to?

So sue me, good god. Y'all taking this way too seriously.

First of, all, with regard to Moore, we've been told for almost 2 years that "he's going to end up at Texas, just wait...shhh just wait..."

Then we got insiders all over the boards (not just here) claiming our NIL is unmatched and that "Sark will get whatever WR he wants" -- all untrue.

I'm just a disappointed fan. I ask a simple question, how true are the claims about our unmatched recruiting system? But then "exceptions" keep popping up every week. Oh we're the best...but tOSU is also the best. Oh but wait Oregon is the best when they want to. Oh wait LSU is poor and bankrupt they can't possibly win "NIL recruitments" and then they do.

[Mitch Hedberg 2,087]

18 hours ago, HateYouAndMyself said:

Look I get it. You probably felt it wasn't really political to just reference a comment someone else made that you felt was stupid. The inevitable result though is that person defending themselves, other morons getting involved because they can't fucking help themselves and it spiraling into a shit show that inevitably touches on political issues that 99% of us want nowhere near this board. That is why there is a zero tolerance "just shut the fuck up" policy on the recruiting board towards those topics. There has to be. 

Lets all just move the fuck on. 

The common sense of this post is so un-Surly. Sir, are you lost?

[Foosters 17,637]

Just now, cb866 said:

So sue me, good god. Y'all taking this way too seriously.

First of, all, with regard to Moore, we've been told for almost 2 years that "he's going to end up at Texas, just wait...shhh just wait..."

Then we got insiders all over the boards (not just here) claiming our NIL is unmatched and that "Sark will get whatever WR he wants" -- all untrue.

I'm just a disappointed fan. I ask a simple question, how true are the claims about our unmatched recruiting system? But then "exceptions" keep popping up every week. Oh we're the best...but tOSU is also the best. Oh but wait Oregon is the best when they want to. Oh wait LSU is poor and bankrupt they can't possibly win "NIL recruitments" and then they do.

You've accused the folks here - many of whom have spent enough hours of their free time on NIL for it to qualify as a second job - of "spreading lies." And when called on it, your response is "you're taking this way too seriously."

Bold strategy man. 

[SydneyCarton 47,297]

24 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

Yeah this is always the condescending response to anyone who questions what had been said here about NIL.

As it fucking should be. What you're ignoring is that regular posters on this literally fucking developed NIL at Texas, as blueprint as to how it's been copied everywhere, and are good enough to share the information with you at times. Openly, along with actual details about the problems that also exist in the Texas organization, at least as has been seen by us. Instead things don't go the way you want and WAH WAH WAH WHY AREN'T WE WINNING EVERY RECRUITMENT FUCK OUR NIL. 

If Texas could more rapidly monetize the small dollar donors for our 500k living alumni, we'd be in rarified air. We're working on it, but it takes time. So yeah, not taking seriously the people who don't donate while bitching about the results ,we dismiss you out of hand. 

6 minutes ago, cb866 said:

What if I was? Am I not able to be a valid fan if I'm not making six figs? Awww does the online critique of NIL for a bunch of 18 year olds hurt your feelings? wahhh wahh wahh. The internet is truly the place of total scumbags who only criticize. What a waste of time.

What's the critique of 18 year olds here? They don't choose your school? They don't maximize their money? That they get to make money?

1 minute ago, cb866 said:

Unbelievable. I've given more than $100k to this university so fuck off.

Then I'd think $20 more a month wouldn't set you back, but here you are whining and bitching on a fucking message board, which you also don't spend a pittance to support financially. You sound like the fucking guy who bitches about paying taxes and then bitches the pot holes in his street don't get reparied after taxes get cut. 

[cb866 140]

1 minute ago, Foosters said:

You've accused the folks here - many of whom have spent enough hours of their free time on NIL for it to qualify as a second job - of "spreading lies." And when called on it, your response is "you're taking this way too seriously."

Bold strategy man. 

I didn't realize a free-to-access board about... a frankly weird subculture (that I enjoy and indulge in)... boiled down to a dick-measuring contest. Cool.

[Ricky's one-hitter 9,070]

Just now, cb866 said:

So sue me, good god. Y'all taking this way too seriously.

First of, all, with regard to Moore, we've been told for almost 2 years that "he's going to end up at Texas, just wait...shhh just wait..."

Then we got insiders all over the boards (not just here) claiming our NIL is unmatched and that "Sark will get whatever WR he wants" -- all untrue.

I'm just a disappointed fan. I ask a simple question, how true are the claims about our unmatched recruiting system? But then "exceptions" keep popping up every week. Oh we're the best...but tOSU is also the best. Oh but wait Oregon is the best when they want to. Oh wait LSU is poor and bankrupt they can't possibly win "NIL recruitments" and then they do.

Imagine that. Recruiting is fluid. 

Bombastic takes get thrown around by lost football boarders and these takes you're referencing are of that brand. There are no certainties in recruiting. No one knew Phil Knight would give Oregon unlimited NIL funds this cycle, and no school's NIL strategy for football will remain constant. With new information, we adapt. 

Your take, however, is a take on bombastic takes and while you're trying to insert nuance, there is none in the source material. Please, either try harder, or

 

[SydneyCarton 47,297]

21 minutes ago, cb866 said:

So sue me, good god. Y'all taking this way too seriously.

Ah, the ole' "You take me too seriously" trope when someone starts getting justifiably pegged by posters. It's a cunt hair above "Why are you guys being so mean?"

 

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First of, all, with regard to Moore, we've been told for almost 2 years that "he's going to end up at Texas, just wait...shhh just wait..."

Yes. And then 3 months ago Phil Knight decided he's spend unlimited money this cycle. I'm so sorry these things change. That being said...

 

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Then we got insiders all over the boards (not just here) claiming our NIL is unmatched and that "Sark will get whatever WR he wants" -- all untrue.

 

 

No one has ever, ever, claimed we would get whoever we want. Posters invovled in NIL have literally said Texas is best in class except for Oregon, who can beat anyone whenever they want. That has been a CONSTANT and consistent narrative. And it's playing out and you act like someone pulled your GI Joe tighties over your eyes. I'm sorry your reading comprehension blows like your takes.

 

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I'm just a disappointed fan. I ask a simple question, how true are the claims about our unmatched recruiting system? But then "exceptions" keep popping up every week. Oh we're the best...but tOSU is also the best. Oh but wait Oregon is the best when they want to. Oh wait LSU is poor and bankrupt they can't possibly win "NIL recruitments" and then they do.

 

You haven't been asking simple questions, you've been ignoring what people are saying and repeatedly pushing a narrative that's not true...I guess becuase wah wah I'm just a disappointed fan who apparently is either super duper poor or has given 6 figures to UT but still won't finanically support the one thing that helps football recruiting. Grow up. And yes, exceptions do pop up, like a player with an exceptionally strong relationship with a position coach who puts folks in the league going to LSU. 

I realize that nuance is difficult for many people in this world, with apparently you being one. I realize that makes the world a really scary place for people like you. I'm sorry you live in pants-wetting fear. 

 

 

Edited July 18 by SydneyCarton

[BigHorn'13 3,345]

5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Then I'd think $20 more a month wouldn't set you back, but here you are whining and bitching on a fucking message board, which you also don't spend a pittance to support financially.

And for the record, this is exactly what I do.

I'm the sole breadwinner in a family of 4, with one of my kids having special needs and the other being 17 months old. I'm broke as a fucking joke but can still easily find a way to donate $10/ month each to Burnt Ends and TOF. 

So I've got no sympathy for Mr. "I've donated $100k to the university" who is constantly bitching about our NIL but doesn't participate. Put up or shut up fucker. 

[SubliminalHorn 6,377]

10 minutes ago, cb866 said:

I didn't realize a free-to-access board about... a frankly weird subculture (that I enjoy and indulge in)... boiled down to a dick-measuring contest. Cool.

Well? How big is your dick?

[irishtexan 11,413]

7 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Well? How big is your dick?

[Mittens 7,991]

8 minutes ago, BigHorn'13 said:

So I've got no sympathy for Mr. "I've donated $100k to the university" 

I'd wager he was talking about his tuition, not any donations. 

[IDIOTsavant 8,421]

2 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

 

[Park Gothic 4,883]

 

So no recruiting news today. 

[Junior Bonner 6,213]

I will always donate tree fiddy (or more) to Surly for the privilege of dropping unlimited negs on cunts who occasionally post here. 

So much satisfaction for the price.

Which reminds me of girl I once knew….