Texas Recruiting Notes 2025: Duck Around and Find Out

[billfromlaketravis 11456]

4 hours ago, Bevo14 said:

I'm going with Pettijohn

[Hookem2147 21208]

37 minutes ago, Bevo said:

I doubt it will be an out of state guy and all the DTs that we really want are out of state so it is probably Zion Williams as one of the guys. The other is probably Rogers although there are some good possibilities at corner and linebacker (guys like Brew, Pettijohn, Sanchez). Sanchez didn't official visit though did he?

Trestin Castro might make some sense. OOS guy but committed to USC.

Maybe they try to get one of the plan B's at WR back on campus that committed elsewhere? (Hines, McCutcheon, Johnson)

[Sgt Hulk 13714]

Isn’t there any DTs at westlake we can lock down?

[Reese Bennett 3609]

1 hour ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Isn’t there any DTs at westlake we can lock down?

Wasn't there one that should be locked up?

[Napoleon 8669]

11 minutes ago, Reese Bennett said:

Wasn't there one that should be locked up?

LB at Lake Travis, I believe. 

[Sock Monkey 722]

Land 4 out of the 5 top 150 guys we are in on along with a couple DBs and a slot receiver, then scout and scrap like hell for 3-4 DTs with high floors at the very least. That’s our remaining class in a nutshell. As long as at least one of those DTs has high potential we just need the other 2 or 3 guys to be junkyard dogs who will stick around and put in the work. Not ideal, but I refuse to believe it can’t be done.

[Tex Long 4384]

I tend to agree with the take of there being a slew of unrealistic offers in play. NIL things that aren't going to be getting funded over the fall. Between that and various under-performances, there will be flips a-plenty.

Of course, there is also the expectation of high performance by the Horns.

Hook'em

[destroya 376]

1 hour ago, Tex Long said:

I tend to agree with the take of there being a slew of unrealistic offers in play. NIL things that aren't going to be getting funded over the fall. Between that and various under-performances, there will be flips a-plenty.

Of course, there is also the expectation of high performance by the Horns.

Hook'em

I wonder if that's where Sark's confidence and coming from.

[Tex Long 4384]

1 minute ago, destroya said:

I wonder if that's where Sark's confidence and coming from.

Seems like we've had late flips our way so far, so yeah.

Also, he may have learned a thing or two from the GOAT... I'm still kinda thinking Banma's first call, when Nick told them he was done, was to Sark. 

[Bevo 13576]

17 minutes ago, destroya said:

I wonder if that's where Sark's confidence and coming from.

 

Sark is always confident.

[victory88 5663]

2 hours ago, Tex Long said:

I tend to agree with the take of there being a slew of unrealistic offers in play. NIL things that aren't going to be getting funded over the fall. Between that and various under-performances, there will be flips a-plenty.

Of course, there is also the expectation of high performance by the Horns.

Hook'em

I also wonder if Texas will come in towards the end with their final offer rather than doing it now and allowing the agents/players to shop themselves and have months to find better offers to drive the price up...

[DixonHur 11296]

15 hours ago, Newy25 said:

I don’t mean this to be a smart ass, but who has he developed? I honestly do not know. I see this being mentioned but who are the players he has developed? 

Maybe DeAngelo Malone?  He was an Edge at Western Kentucky who was drafted by Atlanta in the 3rd Round in 2022.

Or Brodric Martin?  He was a DT selected in the 3rd round by Detroit in 2023.

[Bevo 13576]

41 minutes ago, victory88 said:

I also wonder if Texas will come in towards the end with their final offer rather than doing it now and allowing the agents/players to shop themselves and have months to find better offers to drive the price up...

probably

[closetojumping 62604]

43 minutes ago, victory88 said:

I also wonder if Texas will come in towards the end with their final offer rather than doing it now and allowing the agents/players to shop themselves and have months to find better offers to drive the price up...

I’m not saying this won’t happen in some instances but that’s not the way it’s mostly been working. 

Take Collin Simmons for instance, or Derek Williams the year before. There were amounts agreed to and that is what both sides stayed with to the end. 

The Wingo’s tried to renegotiate, with Missouri gladly trying to fuck things up, and Texas held firm. The dad wanted their word to mean something in the end, and it was never fully believed that Missouri was ultimately going to be able to come up with the money. 

There is plenty of skepticism around several NIL allotments right now - LSU and USC being the usual idiots potentially just faking it until they make it. We’ll see. No one should have any doubt about Oregon, Ohio State, FSU, Miami, Georgia - those schools have the money to back up their offers, even if each school is working with varying pooled amounts for each cycle. 

[Hookem2147 21208]

So 15 current commits. Terry, Lockett, Brooks and Ffrench seem to be the guys we are trending the best with right now. That would put us at 19 commits headed into the season/September. Faraimo, Sanders and Fasusi I guess you could say we are in the fight but doesn't feel like those are trending Texas right now. Same with Tilmon based on what Gerry said today (appears to be Utah). Aidan Anding feels like a complete wildcard depending on how his LSU visit goes.

I'm going to assume the class number will be 23-25? That leaves room for 3 DTs (senior evals or flips; I wouldn't think they would fill up on bread with a 4th unless the flips become out of control, just use that spot in the portal), 1 more LB and potentially 1 more DB or maybe an OT they couldn't turn down? QB, RB, TE, OL and Edge feel like they are or will be done by the time the ball kicks off against Colorado State.

Edited July 23 by Hookem2147

[closetojumping 62604]

6 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

So 15 current commits. Terry, Lockett, Brooks and Ffrench seem to be the guys we are trending the best with right now. That would put us at 19 commits headed into the season/September. Faraimo, Sanders and Fasusi I guess you could say we are in the fight but doesn't feel like those are trending Texas right now. Same with Tilmon based on what Gerry said today (appears to be Utah). Aidan Anding feels like a complete wildcard depending on how his LSU visit goes.

I'm going to assume the class number will be 23-25? That leaves room for 3 DTs (senior evals or flips; I wouldn't think they would fill up on bread with a 4th unless the flips become out of control, just use that spot in the portal), 1 more LB and potentially 1 more DB or maybe an OT they couldn't turn down? QB, RB, TE, OL and Edge feel like they are or will be done by the time the ball kicks off against Colorado State.

The only risk with Terry is that Oregon decides they have to have him and make any objections moot. So the only risk is all of the risk. 

I’m waiting for the moment when Texas decides it’s tired of losing guys it wants in this cycle. That’s happened every cycle since Sarkisian got here. That will play a role with what you mentioned. 

Also, Jonah Williams sounds more and more like he’s MLB bound. Texas has as much interest in signing him for the hype and keeping that hype away from ATM or OU as they do in ever seeing him on campus. 

[Bevo 13576]

11 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

So 15 current commits. Terry, Lockett, Brooks and Ffrench seem to be the guys we are trending the best with right now. That would put us at 19 commits headed into the season/September. Faraimo, Sanders and Fasusi I guess you could say we are in the fight but doesn't feel like those are trending Texas right now. Same with Tilmon based on what Gerry said today (appears to be Utah). Aidan Anding feels like a complete wildcard depending on how his LSU visit goes.

I'm going to assume the class number will be 23-25? That leaves room for 3 DTs (senior evals or flips; I wouldn't think they would fill up on bread with a 4th unless the flips become out of control, just use that spot in the portal), 1 more LB and potentially 1 more DB or maybe an OT they couldn't turn down? QB, RB, TE, OL and Edge feel like they are or will be done by the time the ball kicks off against Colorado State.

 

That all sounds about right.

[Blackcat00 759]

5 hours ago, closetojumping said:

I’m not saying this won’t happen in some instances but that’s not the way it’s mostly been working. 

Take Collin Simmons for instance, or Derek Williams the year before. There were amounts agreed to and that is what both sides stayed with to the end. 

The Wingo’s tried to renegotiate, with Missouri gladly trying to fuck things up, and Texas held firm. The dad wanted their word to mean something in the end, and it was never fully believed that Missouri was ultimately going to be able to come up with the money. 

There is plenty of skepticism around several NIL allotments right now - LSU and USC being the usual idiots potentially just faking it until they make it. We’ll see. No one should have any doubt about Oregon, Ohio State, FSU, Miami, Georgia - those schools have the money to back up their offers, even if each school is working with varying pooled amounts for each cycle. 

LSU is will lose a few to NIL promises. I heard an active high ranking TXHS football coach mention that. 

Edited July 23 by Blackcat00

[nunna yo bizness 1687]

6 hours ago, closetojumping said:

I’m not saying this won’t happen in some instances but that’s not the way it’s mostly been working. 

Take Collin Simmons for instance, or Derek Williams the year before. There were amounts agreed to and that is what both sides stayed with to the end. 

The Wingo’s tried to renegotiate, with Missouri gladly trying to fuck things up, and Texas held firm. The dad wanted their word to mean something in the end, and it was never fully believed that Missouri was ultimately going to be able to come up with the money. 

There is plenty of skepticism around several NIL allotments right now - LSU and USC being the usual idiots potentially just faking it until they make it. We’ll see. No one should have any doubt about Oregon, Ohio State, FSU, Miami, Georgia - those schools have the money to back up their offers, even if each school is working with varying pooled amounts for each cycle. 

I don't remember seeing FSU mentioned in this context before.  What are the big sources of NIL for them?  Tallahassee doesn't seem like a corporate haven.  Do they have a bunch rich alumni that aren't familiar?

[ckhorn 208]

6 minutes ago, nunna yo bizness said:

I don't remember seeing FSU mentioned in this context before.  What are the big sources of NIL for them?  Tallahassee doesn't seem like a corporate haven.  Do they have a bunch rich alumni that aren't familiar?

You better believe it. Burt Reynolds, Leonard Skinner and of course Mack Brown.

[DixonHur 11296]

4 minutes ago, ckhorn said:

You better believe it. Burt Reynolds, Leonard Skinner and of course Mack Brown.

I think you forgot someone.

I also think Richard Simmons and the woman who created Spanx went there, but not 100% sure.

Edited July 24 by DixonHur

[Getafix 28600]

 

So, this *COULD* be interesting.

 

1) First, here's what Jordan Scruggs (Horns 247) said in his article on the visitors for the pool party.

 

2) Here's what how he responded to a question in a Q&A. ("will not be answering questions on it ...  😂  😂.")

 

That actually narrows it down quite a bit.  The implication is that at least one of the two fits these criteria:

- large human

- on defense

- has taken OV to Texas

- is committed to another school

 

The recruits who fit those criteria are:

- Josiah Sharma

- Myron Charles

- Javion Hilson

- Brandon Brown

- Kevin Wynn

- Marco Jones (Edge, A&M)

- Riley Pettijohn (not a particularly large human, but someone will ask)

That's it.  

So yeah, if he answered those questions accurately and the visit(s) materialized, that would be interesting.

 

 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12190]

We aren't losing out on all ot our prospects. Oregon only has so many spots. They aren't getting Ffrench or Lockett, so we're good there. I'm not worried about Fasusi since we'll end up with a better LT in Turntine, and that gives Goosby and Turntine enough space to where he can learn. 

I don't know shit from fuck regarding Terry, but I'd bet he ends up in our class. Pretty bummed about Pettijohn, but we can hope for a late flip like we always get in one way or another with players. I don't care about Moore anymore, he can rot in Eugene for all I care. WR is a dime a dozen, regardless of how talented so and so prospect is. We're stacked with talent there, anyway. 

All I really care about at this point is getting some DT's worth a shit. Maybe a guy like January who was ranked criminally low but will dominate. There's too many out there to not find a few gems. 

Edit: I don't believe Myron Charles' recruitment is over. Dude can come in and get playing time. Hilson is another I think isn't over. Plenty of time for this staff to do their thing this season and show out to these recruits. I'm optimistic as of today, but that's probably the xanax talking. 

Edited July 24 by Spider2YBanana

[Hornmatic 246]

1 hour ago, nunna yo bizness said:

I don't remember seeing FSU mentioned in this context before.  What are the big sources of NIL for them?  Tallahassee doesn't seem like a corporate haven.  Do they have a bunch rich alumni that aren't familiar?

Saudi State University 

[Hookem2147 21208]

Jamie Ffrench is apparently going to LSU on Friday per their On3 site. Has family in Louisiana. I know Gerry previously mentioned an OV to Georgia was a possibility.

Edited July 24 by Hookem2147

[westexhorn 2017]

1 hour ago, Spider2YBanana said:

We aren't losing out on all ot our prospects. Oregon only has so many spots. They aren't getting Ffrench or Lockett, so we're good there. I'm not worried about Fasusi since we'll end up with a better LT in Turntine, and that gives Goosby and Turntine enough space to where he can learn. 

I don't know shit from fuck regarding Terry, but I'd bet he ends up in our class. Pretty bummed about Pettijohn, but we can hope for a late flip like we always get in one way or another with players. I don't care about Moore anymore, he can rot in Eugene for all I care. WR is a dime a dozen, regardless of how talented so and so prospect is. We're stacked with talent there, anyway. 

All I really care about at this point is getting some DT's worth a shit. Maybe a guy like January who was ranked criminally low but will dominate. There's too many out there to not find a few gems. 

Edit: I don't believe Myron Charles' recruitment is over. Dude can come in and get playing time. Hilson is another I think isn't over. Plenty of time for this staff to do their thing this season and show out to these recruits. I'm optimistic as of today, but that's probably the xanax talking. 

I wouldn't be so sure of getting any high profile recruits in the next class moving forward.  If Oregon wants Turntine, he's gone.

[Vermin 3043]

1 hour ago, Spider2YBanana said:

We aren't losing out on all ot our prospects. Oregon only has so many spots.

Damn that's fucking bleak that our hope is that we can land Oregon's scraps.

[SarkAfterDark 1688]

Thankfully not all these kids are willing to live in Eugene.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20395]

1 hour ago, westexhorn said:

I wouldn't be so sure of getting any high profile recruits in the next class moving forward.  If Oregon wants Turntine, he's gone.

Some of you are too frail to live. 

[Born Burnt 6177]

3 hours ago, DixonHur said:

I also think Richard Simmons...went there, but not 100% sure.

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/13/1154459269/richard-simmons-fitness-exercise-star-dead

[FunkSoulBrother 931]

3 hours ago, DixonHur said:

I think you forgot someone.

I also think Richard Simmons and the woman who created Spanx went there, but not 100% sure.

 

And don't forget Ron Simmons

[Funk Doctor Spock 12190]

1 hour ago, Vermin said:

Damn that's fucking bleak that our hope is that we can land Oregon's scraps.

Their scraps are still blue chippers lol. It's grim, but we'll just have to skull fuck every team in our path to the playoffs. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12190]

2 hours ago, westexhorn said:

I wouldn't be so sure of getting any high profile recruits in the next class moving forward.  If Oregon wants Turntine, he's gone.

That kid absolutely loves Texas. No way he's leaving the state, even if Oregon pushes all their chips in. He's one that we will land. 

*I reserve the right to be wrong 

[Tex Long 4384]

10 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Some of you are too frail to live. 

 ... and/or bad at humor.

[Bevo 13576]

18 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

 ... and/or bad at humor.

 

Turophobia got you down?

Edited July 24 by Bevo

[cmontexas 3270]

13 hours ago, ckhorn said:

You better believe it. Burt Reynolds, Leonard Skinner and of course Mack Brown.

Plus the 2nd funniest of the 2 Bears

[Tex Long 4384]

1 hour ago, Bevo said:

 

Turophobia got you down?

 Dislike is not phobia. You a sip or some such?

[Park Gothic 5018]

1 hour ago, Tex Long said:

 Dislike is not phobia. You a sip or some such?

"Turophobia"; Greek "turi" - "cheese" and "phobia" "- consists of the words" phobia. "People suffering from this phobia exhibit symptoms of disgust, disgust, and inability to touch the cheese. They have difficulty approaching the cheese and exhibit extreme discomfort upon seeing the cheese.

I didn't know what turophobia meant so I googled it. Dislike is apparently a phobia. 

[Tex Long 4384]

58 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

I didn't know what turophobia meant so I googled it. Dislike is apparently a phobia. 

Phobia is specifically fear. Fearing cheese is certainly a reason to dislike it. The point remains. Dislike is not phobia. You a sip or some such?

[victory88 5663]

23 hours ago, closetojumping said:

I’m not saying this won’t happen in some instances but that’s not the way it’s mostly been working. 

Take Collin Simmons for instance, or Derek Williams the year before. There were amounts agreed to and that is what both sides stayed with to the end. 

The Wingo’s tried to renegotiate, with Missouri gladly trying to fuck things up, and Texas held firm. The dad wanted their word to mean something in the end, and it was never fully believed that Missouri was ultimately going to be able to come up with the money. 

There is plenty of skepticism around several NIL allotments right now - LSU and USC being the usual idiots potentially just faking it until they make it. We’ll see. No one should have any doubt about Oregon, Ohio State, FSU, Miami, Georgia - those schools have the money to back up their offers, even if each school is working with varying pooled amounts for each cycle. 

How does it generally play out when schools cannot come up with the money?  I imagine contracts get presented before they sign?  Is this where the players find out they aren't getting what was promised?  Or is it when it comes time to fund the money?

[Pato del Muerto 52489]

The probability of being struck and killed by a rogue cheese wheel may be low, but is never zero.  Makes you think. 

[BornAndRaised 12281]

Can one of the other recruiting junkies remind me why Kris Ross left the program? Did he just not develop after the injury? I saw he transferred to play for Choate at Nevada. Sorry I know it's the wrong thread but it kind of ties into our DT woes.

[BurntOrange&White 39931]

Just now, BornAndRaised said:

Can one of the other recruiting junkies remind me why Kris Ross left the program? Did he just not develop after the injury? I saw he transferred to play for Choate at Nevada. Sorry I know it's the wrong thread but it kind of ties into our DT woes.

Had a huge blow up at Sark in front of the team. Team didn’t want him back after that. 

[BornAndRaised 12281]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Had a huge blow up at Sark in front of the team. Team didn’t want him back after that. 

Got it thanks.

[Pato del Muerto 52489]

6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Had a huge blow up at Sark in front of the team. Team didn’t want him back after that. 

He threatened to enter the portal and they told him to jump. Jump. 

[Park Gothic 5018]

18 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

The probability of being struck and killed by a rogue cheese wheel may be low, but is never zero.  Makes you think. 

I'm always on the lookout for dangerous muensters. 

[kwood4408 756]

[Fondren & Main 6710]

North Shore players haven’t panned out much lately.

[SquishMitten 10403]

1 hour ago, victory88 said:

How does it generally play out when schools cannot come up with the money?  I imagine contracts get presented before they sign?  Is this where the players find out they aren't getting what was promised?  Or is it when it comes time to fund the money?

Dunno how every school handles it, but you aren't supposed to be paying players until they're enrolled. If they're following the rules, then the kids are kinda stuck for at least a semester. Otherwise, they would have to try to get out of their enrollment which would mean they likely have to admit their own violations which could potentially hurt them as much or more than the school. If they aren't following the rules, and promising the kids X amount of money on a certain date (prior to enrollment), then that could provide an opportunity for the player to flip. But I would imagine even if such promises are in place, they'd be smart enough to make those first payments even if they lacked the funds to make all future payments. 

[TexEx15 17509]

Football scholarships increasing by 20. Dang.