Texas Recruiting Notes 2025: Duck Around and Find Out

[HtownHorn 14626]

1 hour ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

What's more frustrating is Corey Raymond's DB groups have been hot garbage for the past several seasons.  Granted, ours wasn't anything to brag about under Joseph until this season, but Phillips committed and flipped during the summer.  Why not just wait and see how things went for both programs during the season, which is clear as day now which one is better.

I mean they weren't good because we didn't have good players. Now we have a 2-deep of good players and magically the secondary is much better.

[D3zii 3674]

6 minutes ago, RabidM said:

Dammit, really hope we don't end up regretting not taking Russell.  His junior film was absurd and his senior season is crazy. 

I remember when this board was saying the same thing with not taking Milroe. 
I think he was a few spots from a five star. 

[TexasRenegade 2435]

1 hour ago, TXRed said:

On3 definitely lets popularity and clicks influence their rankings. It became obvious when they randomly moved Nico ahead of Arch in 2023. 247 is probably guilty of playing favorites as well, ESPN and Rivals are just bad. 

We know On3 and 247 manipulate rankings.  There are years when the talent should disproportionally come from fewer states....yet 5 star numbers tend to distribute uniformly from year to year.  Also, we know that Texas recruits got downgraded after the Strong and Herman evaluation screwups, not sure if we are still getting that treatment, but in Sark's first couple of seasons it was definitely the case.,

[HenryJames 65953]

1 hour ago, satyanash said:

Orogbo Smith and Kaliq Lockett both fell out of the Top 25 nationally. 

Should we still honor their scholarships?

[Napoleon 8644]

12 minutes ago, RabidM said:

Dammit, really hope we don't end up regretting not taking Russell.  His junior film was absurd and his senior season is crazy. 

Lacey will not come close to Russell as a college player, but Russell will have a much better career at Bama than he would have had in Austin due to the QBs in front and behind him at each school.

If we had switched to Russell, we might have no picked up Dia Bell. 

Russell has the potential to be amazing. Lacey doesn’t. 
 

FULL DISCLOSURE: 

I have never watched either player play, or even watched their highlights.

Edited 3 hours ago by Napoleon

[South Austin 52308]

3 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

I have never watched either player play, or even watched their highlights.

You're fully qualified to opine on this thread, and even start your own recruiting website.

[TonyTexas 10501]

1 hour ago, kevwun said:

If Kelly gets fired, he will be free to portal even if he signs with them.

Kelly is not getting fired unless they can find cause. 
 

Year	Buyout Amount
November 2024	$60.8 million
November 2025	$51.7 million
November 2026	$42.5 million
November 2027	$33.1 million
November 2028	$23.4 million
November 2029	$13.5 million

[kevwun 15729]

This year or next, it's a matter of time.  They're not gonna let him keep losing for 2-3 more years.  They will get desperate and find the money.

[BornAndRaised 12223]

Are the dollars reinvigorated after a vote of confidence from the AD and a win against an LSU team that will finish unranked? Not that these can't be natural flips because FSU is in the shitter, but obviously recruiting is heating up for Florida now.
 

 

[ClubWhatever 12105]

18 minutes ago, kevwun said:

This year or next, it's a matter of time.  They're not gonna let him keep losing for 2-3 more years.  They will get desperate and find the money.

Or he could finally say, This is all the living in Baton Rouge that I can take

[kevwun 15729]

Yeah a negotiated buyout could also happen if everyone is miserable.  They'll find a way to make it happen.  They couldn't afford Orgeron's buyout either and still managed to get rid of him.

Edited 3 hours ago by kevwun

[Pato del Muerto 52422]

1 minute ago, ClubWhatever said:

Or he could finally say, This is all the living in Baton Rouge that I can take

He’s researching “Florida accents” already

[satyanash 14438]

24 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Kelly is not getting fired unless they can find cause. 
 

Year	Buyout Amount
November 2024	$60.8 million
November 2025	$51.7 million
November 2026	$42.5 million
November 2027	$33.1 million
November 2028	$23.4 million
November 2029	$13.5 million

[closetojumping 62330]

LSU is poor and the House case payouts coming down the chute will make them even poorer. There are a whole bunch of schools staring that reality down and they’re not making changes and can’t make changes, including UF, Arkansas, OU, USC and so on. 

Now is not the same at it ever was. Shit has gotten real on the NIL side and House makes that crazier. Places can’t just “find the money”. 

One obvious area ripe for change, and Sexton isn’t going to be able to do a damned thing about it, is coach buyouts. Programs are getting squeezed from all sides and they’re going to value players first. Jimbo Fisher buyouts became the rage and now those things are viewed as toxic. 

[tokamak 6365]

39 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Kelly is not getting fired unless they can find cause. 
 

Year	Buyout Amount
November 2024	$60.8 million
November 2025	$51.7 million
November 2026	$42.5 million
November 2027	$33.1 million
November 2028	$23.4 million
November 2029	$13.5 million

Does grinding on recruits count?

[tokamak 6365]

2 hours ago, satyanash said:

Orogbo Smith

Everybody buckle up for 3 to 5 years of a steady stream of this.

[texifornia 56646]

15 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Everybody buckle up for 3 to 5 years of a steady stream of this.

It's the next "Makuba"

[Chuckie Finster 22663]

27 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Everybody buckle up for 3 to 5 years of a steady stream of this.

Took me a good month after he committed to realize that it wasn't some kid with the last name "Smith-Orogbo."

[Hornius Emeritus 12446]

44 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

LSU is poor and the House case payouts coming down the chute will make them even poorer. There are a whole bunch of schools staring that reality down and they’re not making changes and can’t make changes, including UF, Arkansas, OU, USC and so on. 

Now is not the same at it ever was. Shit has gotten real on the NIL side and House makes that crazier. Places can’t just “find the money”. 

One obvious area ripe for change, and Sexton isn’t going to be able to do a damned thing about it, is coach buyouts. Programs are getting squeezed from all sides and they’re going to value players first. Jimbo Fisher buyouts became the rage and now those things are viewed as toxic. 

House case payouts should be roughly 24 million dollars per power five schools, assuming the 1.65 billion in damages will be divided up equally up between the 69 power five schools.

[TonyTexas 10501]

1 hour ago, kevwun said:

Yeah a negotiated buyout could also happen if everyone is miserable.  They'll find a way to make it happen.  They couldn't afford Orgeron's buyout either and still managed to get rid of him.

There is a big difference between $17M and $61M

[blutow 233]

1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

Kelly is not getting fired unless they can find cause.

This would be enough if I was on the jury  

 

[General Specific 3243]

You're fully qualified to opine on this thread, and even start your own recruiting website.

Listen to this man, he’s pre-med!

[Hookem2147 21036]

Fasusi visiting Texas this weekend per OTF.

Going to A&M next weekend 

[LebongJames 1790]

^ This

Edited 1 hour ago by LebongJames

[Hookem2147 21036]

Nahlin put in a RPM for Mbatchou to Texas. 60% confidence.

[billfromlaketravis 11422]

1 hour ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

House case payouts should be roughly 24 million dollars per power five schools, assuming the 1.65 billion in damages will be divided up equally up between the 69 power five schools.

Yep. House is a big reason no P4 coach has been fired yet. 

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13079]

2 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

Kelly is not getting fired unless they can find cause. 

Cause he sucks isn’t a valid reason?

[D3zii 3674]

29 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Fasusi visiting Texas this weekend per OTF.

Going to A&M next weekend 

[PsychMike 1540]

On 11/16/2024 at 6:39 PM, Funk Doctor Spock said:

We no longer need Phillips since we now hace two 5 star safeties. But Mathis would be great. Williams is meh. 

Agree about Zion Williams. His highlight reel wasn’t impressive. Sure he is an immovable object (wouldn’t hate to see him in short yardage situations) but he doesn’t move around laterally well and seems to spend no time in the backfield. I watched him when he played against Ball a few weeks ago and I didn’t see him have a single impact play. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12145]

Just now, PsychMike said:

Agree about Zion Williams. His highlight reel wasn’t impressive. Sure he is an immovable object (wouldn’t hate to see him in short yardage situations) but he doesn’t move around laterally well and seems to spend no time in the backfield. I watched him when he played against Ball a few weeks ago and I didn’t see him have a single impact play. 

Exactly. For being a "4 star" he doesn't seem to do anything worthy of that ranking. He just kind of seems to be there and nothing more. I mean, I guess if we take 5 DT's I won't complain too much if it's him. I'll let Baker see what he can do with him. But if we don't get him, I won't lose sleep since he'll be processed at LSU. He seems more of a UTSA player to me, but that's just my opinion.